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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on February 01, 2007, 02:51:02 PM
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Schulz aiming high in '07
11:37:26 AM Thu 1 February, 2007
Angus Morgan
Exclusive to afl.com.au
Based on his ranking in Terry Wallace's NAB Cup incentive scheme, Jay Schulz isn't yet guaranteed a start in the Tigers' fixture against Geelong at Skilled Stadium on 25 February.
But the straight-shooting Richmond forward has grand plans for 2007 and he's determined to make an early impact to set new standards for the coming season, his fifth at AFL-level.
Full article at: http://richmondfc.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=313187
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"Before I got injured I was doing all of my training up the forward line, sitting up at full-forward alongside Kent Kingsley who's been a massive help to our forward line structure, he's really helped to stabilise it," said Schulz.
"Both of us have been working out of the square and it's been working really well. And of course you've got Browny who's always handy, and then Richo.
"Having said that, I've discussed with 'Plough' that you've got Graham Polak who's played down forward as well and there could be a chance for maybe him to come down and get a couple of quick goals while I hold up his end of the bargain."
Rotating between FF and CHB will probably help Sarge this year. Keep him involved in the game. The problem he had last year was he would kick a couple of goals early then disappear for the rest of the match as he didn't have the necessary fitness.
"I'm getting a bit sick of hearing people say, 'Look, it's time for you to stand up'. I know that myself, but I just haven’t been fit enough at times to do it.
Sarge must be reading OER lol.
"We're looking great at the moment and there's a lot of rumours around that no-one's training harder than us at the moment. A lot of the boys are fitter then they've ever been and it's going to set them up for big years."
Which AFL club isn't saying this. The proof will come in a few months.
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Tigers find gun forward in Schulz
11 March 2007 Herald-Sun
Ken Piesse
JAY Schulz can yet be the powerhouse forward Richmond needs to sample again September action, judging on his impressive form at Princes Park yesterday.
While the Tigers lost a low-key practice match in 30C heat to Melbourne, their third loss in three weeks, the form of Schulz and the returning Nathan Brown encourage hopes for an improved 2007.
Rather than being remembered as a footballer whose late-night indulgences were blamed for Richmond losing a key sponsorship, Schulz says he is ready to repay the loyalty of everyone at Tigerland with his best season.
"I'm in my fifth year now and want to show the boys and everyone that I am here for a reason," Schulz said.
"I can play and I have a lot to offer."
Schulz kicked only two goals in the 28-point loss, but his marking and athleticism would be an asset beside Matthew Richardson when the Tigers champion returns.
"We've worked well together in pre-season," he said.
"There's room for us to play together for sure."
Teammate Brown's 21 disposals show he will be a valuable player for the Tigers, having not played a senior game after Round 17 last season.
Coach Terry Wallace says he expects Brown to play all 22 games this year.
"There's no problem at all with him now," Wallace said.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21359664%255E20322,00.html
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I allways liked Schulzy - the way we are going atm it is time this year to stand up.
Will the real Jay Schulzy please stand up, please stand up. chicca chicca
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What a terribble headline for a player who has played 1 decent game of football in his AFL career.
Would somebody please tell me what his average kicks per game are.
I think you might be able to add them up on one hand.
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Average kicks per game?
Got to say Jack - the number of kicks are not that important - it's the quality of the kicks not the quantity.
And yesterday the impressive thing from where I was sitting was the 1% ers. E.g his tackling, blocking, sheperds and work rate in trying to keep the ball in our fwd 50.
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yeah ... i agree ...
i like Jay ... but he has one match that looks good in and we are smiling for him ...
i know he has talent and it is this year he has to do something ... as a forward you need to mark, kick goals and put pressure on your opponents ... thats all ... not how many possessions you get ... he is the type of player that can have five kicks for five goals !
come on jay ... f*** play man ! your the future richmond forward !
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Average kicks per game?
Got to say Jack - the number of kicks are not that important - it's the quality of the kicks not the quantity.
And yesterday the impressive thing from where I was sitting was the 1% ers. E.g his tackling, blocking, sheperds and work rate in trying to keep the ball in out fwd 50.
I understand what your saying there WP although my impressions of a gun forward is one that can take contested marks and wins a game off his own boot Eg Wayne Carey, Matty Lloyd, Alistair Lynch, Fraser Gehrig, Brendan Fevola etc etc etc
Schultz is hardly a gun forward
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Average kicks per game?
Got to say Jack - the number of kicks are not that important - it's the quality of the kicks not the quantity.
And yesterday the impressive thing from where I was sitting was the 1% ers. E.g his tackling, blocking, sheperds and work rate in trying to keep the ball in out fwd 50.
Schultz is hardly a gun forward
not yet, but he will be
watch this space jack
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Average kicks per game?
Got to say Jack - the number of kicks are not that important - it's the quality of the kicks not the quantity.
And yesterday the impressive thing from where I was sitting was the 1% ers. E.g his tackling, blocking, sheperds and work rate in trying to keep the ball in out fwd 50.
Great post WP.
Jay's got the tools to be a gun.
Just needs to stay fit and be provided the opportunity.
I am a huge fan of this 21yr old who will soon enough be making waves for the Tigers.
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Average kicks per game?
Got to say Jack - the number of kicks are not that important - it's the quality of the kicks not the quantity.
And yesterday the impressive thing from where I was sitting was the 1% ers. E.g his tackling, blocking, sheperds and work rate in trying to keep the ball in out fwd 50.
Schultz is hardly a gun forward
not yet, but he will be
watch this space jack
Wont hold my breath, the guy is a DILL!
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Average kicks per game?
Got to say Jack - the number of kicks are not that important - it's the quality of the kicks not the quantity.
And yesterday the impressive thing from where I was sitting was the 1% ers. E.g his tackling, blocking, sheperds and work rate in trying to keep the ball in out fwd 50.
Schultz is hardly a gun forward
not yet, but he will be
watch this space jack
Wont hold my breath, the guy is a DILL!
So is Fev lol but that doesn't stop him kicking bags. I agree Jack though calling Sarge a gun forward yet is laughable. The only thing we can say is he is still relatively young and improving. It took Pagan arriving at Carlton before Fev got his act together on-field.
The thing Sarge needs the most is a injury-free run this year. Even yesterday he went off temporarily (thank god) with an ankle.
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all i am saying one game doesnt make a career,
Look what happened to Jason Smith, kicked 5 on debut.
and that was it.
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I hope he has a great year so we can trade him. Kruezer, Bellchambers, Cotchin, Morton and afew others will be quality players from this years draft.
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I hope he has a great year so we can trade him. Kruezer, Bellchambers, Cotchin, Morton and afew others will be quality players from this years draft.
What, and keep going backwards???
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Average kicks per game?
Got to say Jack - the number of kicks are not that important - it's the quality of the kicks not the quantity.
And yesterday the impressive thing from where I was sitting was the 1% ers. E.g his tackling, blocking, sheperds and work rate in trying to keep the ball in out fwd 50.
Schultz is hardly a gun forward
not yet, but he will be
watch this space jack
Wont hold my breath, the guy is a DILL!
so was ablett, lockett, carey....all tossers, all idiots , but all legends
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all i am saying one game doesnt make a career,
Look what happened to Jason Smith, kicked 5 on debut.
and that was it.
I may be wrong, Jack, but I'm pretty sure I was there the day Jason Smith made his debut. It was out at Waverley, and I even sat next to his parents. He hardly got a kick, let alone kicked 5 goals. Are you getting mixed up?
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He kicked 5 against Carlton at princes park.
He was from assumption college in Kilmore back IN the days KB was coach
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He kicked 5 against Carlton at princes park.
He was from assumption college in Kilmore back IN the days KB was coach
Sorry Jack, you are mixed up.It happens to all of us. Jason Smith was from Assumption, as you say, and KB was the coach, but he only played the one AFL game, and has never scored a goal - I just checked that. I remember his Dad saying to me that he didn't understand why Jason even got a game that day because his form didn't deserve it.
My hunch is that you are thinking of Justin Murphy's debut game, where he kicked 5 goals against Essendon at Princes Park. I was there that day too. I thought he was going to be a sensation.
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From the Encyclopedia of AFL footballers:
Jason Smith - 1991, 1 game, 1 goal. (b: 13 Aug 1972, 185 cm, 80 kgs). From Assumption College.
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I hope he has a great year so we can trade him. Kruezer, Bellchambers, Cotchin, Morton and afew others will be quality players from this years draft.
Ludicrous!
He's 21 and has taken 4 years to start finally showing something yet you want to take a punt on an unknown?
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He kicked 5 against Carlton at princes park.
He was from assumption college in Kilmore back IN the days KB was coach
Sorry Jack, you are mixed up.It happens to all of us. Jason Smith was from Assumption, as you say, and KB was the coach, but he only played the one AFL game, and has never scored a goal - I just checked that. I remember his Dad saying to me that he didn't understand why Jason even got a game that day because his form didn't deserve it.
My hunch is that you are thinking of Justin Murphy's debut game, where he kicked 5 goals against Essendon at Princes Park. I was there that day too. I thought he was going to be a sensation.
Sorry there Gordon, you are quite right! ;)
long time ago now
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I hope he has a great year so we can trade him. Kruezer, Bellchambers, Cotchin, Morton and afew others will be quality players from this years draft.
Ludicrous!
He's 21 and has taken 4 years to start finally showing something yet you want to take a punt on an unknown?
Exactly, why would you trade him away if he has a good year, if he has a good year and is only 21, he'll more than likely have a better year when he's 22, and by the time he's 25-26 he'll be a consistent dangerous forward.
Our problem is that we have no 25-26 year old core, let the group we have now play together for another 3-4 years and we'll be a consistent finals team, we may not be good enough to win a flag, but we need stability.
The Collingwood team that played in two premierships against the Lions, I didn't and still don't rate them as a team, but because they had been together for a few years and were all that peak age, they got lucky.
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Sorry there Gordon, you are quite right! ;)
long time ago now
No worries. No doubt my memory will play tricks on me sometime soon as well.
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Jack could even be thinking of the great Terry Keays who i remember kicking 5 against Fitzroy at Princess Park.
Stood in the forward pocket in the outer with my Dad and remember Tezza flying high over the packs and winning the game in the last qtr for us.
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what about marty mcgrath!!!
anyway, jay will come good, jack will eat humble pie
the bombers will finish bottom 4
the tigers in the 8
and at yrs end we will all have a drink with jack and have a few laughs
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Marty McGrath kicked 5 on debut.
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Marty McGrath kicked 5 on debut.
:thumbsup :-* :shh
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Richard Lounder - 4 goals on debut while leaning against the goalpost :whistle
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Schulz takes flight
By Greg Lange, for Richmond Football Club
April 5, 2007
“It’s been an up-and-down journey for me – I busted my shoulder last year and broke my ankle the year before,” Schulz says. “But once you get over your injury and get back out on the field, you realise why you put yourself through those situations and how you manage to get through it all.”
Schulz demontrated how well his recovery was going with a two-goal performance against Carlton last weekend. While he doesn’t like the game’s result, he is more-than-happy with how his body felt after the match.
“I feel like I am covering the ground a lot easier than what I have been able to in previous years,” he says. “I am still learning but I feel really good about this year even though the weekend went the way it did. I’m still very confident in our side and the way we are going. I can still see us having a very good year.”
While the club is aiming at finals footy, for Schulz, this year is about achieving simple goals.
“Considering the last two years have been really up and down for me, this year is about consistency,” he says. “I’ll try and hold a consistent spot in the side and give what I know I’ve got to give. It’s been frustrating not to have been able to do that over the last couple of years so it’s a really big goal for me this year.”
Full article at: http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=40636
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Schulz is going nowhere with us. The dogs are desperate. If we chuck in our 2nd round pick or our priority pick we could upgrade to the dogs first pick which will be about pick 7.
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Schulz is going nowhere with us. The dogs are desperate. If we chuck in our 2nd round pick or our priority pick we could upgrade to the dogs first pick which will be about pick 7.
Can't agree, ramps. There's still doubt over how good Hughes and Reiwoldt will be, and key forwards don't grow on trees. We'll keep Schulz. His best footy is yet to come.
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The Club has said Sarge is a required player but it wouldn't surprise me if we went for something like that in trade week. The doggies would have to agree though and you'd reckon they'd prefer a proven performer like Fev.
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Schultz shouldnt be on any AFL list ::)
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Schulz is going nowhere with us. The dogs are desperate. If we chuck in our 2nd round pick or our priority pick we could upgrade to the dogs first pick which will be about pick 7.
Can't agree, ramps. There's still doubt over how good Hughes and Reiwoldt will be, and key forwards don't grow on trees. We'll keep Schulz. His best footy is yet to come.
ditto. :thumbsup
If sarge played on friday night he would have dominated, the delivery was absolutely spot on :clapping
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Schultz shouldnt be on any AFL list ::)
There are a number of players that shouldn't be on AFL lists Jack - can think of another big key position player at another club that was a higher draft pick than Jay who shouldn't be on a list :shh ;) ;D
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Where was McDougall taken by the eagles?
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Where was McDougall taken by the eagles?
Number 5
and he was who I was thinking of :rollin
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Hamish McIntosh anyone.
Same year as Schulzy, absolute dud till this year.
Schulz will come good IMHO
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Schulz will come good IMHO
Agree bluey_21
The dud I was thinking of was K Bradley - no 6 pick in the draft
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this isnt just a debate about if he comes good or not, its about rectifying other problems (full back- rance), maybe about getting another player who can bring other players into the game more (masten). Looking forward we still have Richo Hughes and Riewoldt. Who knows what we may take in this draft and next year I dont see us improving much - so we will get another early pick.
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this isnt just a debate about if he comes good or not, its about rectifying other problems (full back- rance), maybe about getting another player who can bring other players into the game more (masten). Looking forward we still have Richo Hughes and Riewoldt. Who knows what we may take in this draft and next year I dont see us improving much - so we will get another early pick.
Richo isn't going to be around for too long. 2 years max and when he is gone what do we do?
Hughes, Riewoldt and Schulz to me sounds like a good 3 prong tall forward line.
And anyways, if Schulz is as crap as you are making him out to be I very much doubt he will get us an upgrade which would enable us to get a Rance or Masten
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I never said he was crap, im just saying that hes not doing anything for us and he could be value elsewhere and we could find value as well in a player somewhere else.
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If Fev leaves Carlton and lets say he does not go to the Dogs who are looking for a forward as McDougall has not lived up to their expectations. We can use trade Schulz as trade bait to get an outside midfielder in Giansiracusa from the Dogs. We already have Foley as one and with Cogs coming back next year we'll have 2 and perhaps with Polo 3. I think Gia would be a classy acquisition for us and he is also a great finisher and would complement the others in our midfield.
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We are not eligable for a priority pick this year.
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We are not eligable for a priority pick this year.
We are actually at the start of the 2nd round.
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If Fev leaves Carlton and lets say he does not go to the Dogs who are looking for a forward as McDougall has not lived up to their expectations. We can use trade Schulz as trade bait to get an outside midfielder in Giansiracusa from the Dogs. We already have Foley as one and with Cogs coming back next year we'll have 2 and perhaps with Polo 3. I think Gia would be a classy acquisition for us and he is also a great finisher and would complement the others in our midfield.
I agree in that Gian would be a classy inclusion but it should not be the typw of player we seek to improve our list structure.
1. We dont need another small skinny type
2. We dont need another older player
3. We dont need another outside player
4. We dont need another recycle
unless your name is Kevin Bartlett and your in your prime....PASS
Im pushing for Masten (considering the scum will use first pick on special K). I know we will pay over the odds for him but he is a player who specialises in bringing others into the game.
He has lightning quick hands in tight, excellent work ethic, is a natural leader and footballer, is an in and under ball magnet and will give us a potent midfield rotation along with cogs, tuck, polo and foley and maybe raines.
On the outside we have the likes of casserly, jon, lids, tambo, collins, edwards, connors and possibly meyer waiting to whisk the ball into the forward line.
We definately dont need any more pacy outsider types.
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my gut feeling says Cotchin will be a tiger, but I actually think Masten is better for our needs, really need someone in there to help Foley and help get Blingers running game into gear
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Gian is a good footballer but he's injury prone so pass. He hasn't played a full season in 4 years and copped another injury on the weekend. If we trade we want early picks in return.
The dud I was thinking of was K Bradley - no 6 pick in the draft
Bradley kicked 5 goals for Bendigo on the weekend lol :o
Believe it or not the Eagles have had a few first round flops. McDougall (5), Sampi (6), Haynes (16) and Travis Gaspar (14). Glass (11), Judd (3), Kerr (18) and Waters (11) were early gets.
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The Herald-Sun say the Doggies want a big fish like Fev instead of a forward on the outer like Schulz.
Bulldogs look forward
17 August 2007 Herald Sun
Mark Stevens
THE Western Bulldogs are already scouting for a power forward, seven weeks before trade week.
"Certainly we're on the lookout for a power forward, and to do that you have to give up something," Eade said yesterday. "I think we've got to make considered decisions about our list. I don't want to get into it too publicly.
They will pay 100 per cent of the cap again next year and are prepared to chase a big fish rather than a player on the outer at another club who may not have an impact.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22258592%255E19742,00.html
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Keep him for the final year of his contract.
Hughes has shown nothing to suggest he'll come good.
Riewoldt not much better.
Richo another year older.
Kingsley likely gone.
Schulz stays in 08 and hopefully he finally comes good or he won't be there in 09.
At the very least he's insurance but I think he can still be a handy player for us. Perhaps not a the replacement for Richardson that we hoped but handy non the less.
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Schulz has played 49 games in 5 years with 12 in 2007 kicking 14.14.
http://www.finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1239&SeasonID=ALL
Do we persist with 22 year old Jay and keep him or do we try to trade him?
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keep
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Keep, though if he wants to go home you might see what Adelaide would give for him. They are desperate for forward options and might give more than you would otherwise expect.
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Our lack of KPPs will probably mean he's safe but he's a frustrating player to watch.
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Keep - 12 month deal only
Make or break time for Jay
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needs a new start.
Would b best for him,actually,to start fresh at a new club with more options up forward.
I like Jay but if we r to continue on the road we have claimed we are travelling,then he should be let go.
It could come back and bite us big time though..........maybe keep for 12 like wp said.....dunno
stuff
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Yeah - has a year to go on the contract ... so keep him ... and will be make or break ...
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send him home.
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send him home.
What would we get for Sarge if we did? Macgregor and Meesen has been mentioned from the Crows. I'd want more than a straight swap for Meesen :help.
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With Kingsley gawn, at 22 he's a better prospect than the crap we'd likely get in return through a trade.
Keep and hope he plays well next season.
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With Kingsley gawn, at 22 he's a better prospect than the crap we'd likely get in return through a trade.
Keep and hope he plays well next season.
Spot on Mr Magic
For Richmond to get better, Sarge has to get better.
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Sarge will have Toovey or Cox on him on Sunday so he could have a day out if he works hard all the time and uses his size properly. When he's in the seniors he needs to see which was Richo leads and run to the opposite side.
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With Kingsley gawn, at 22 he's a better prospect than the crap we'd likely get in return through a trade.
Keep and hope he plays well next season.
Spot on Mr Magic
For Richmond to get better, Sarge has to get better.
I really hope we keep him.
He's 23 next year & whilst this season again was disappointing for him there's no point in scapegoating Jay for our ruined season. There are more pressing problems than him IMO. Healing our midfield woes & ruck division is the priority.
Richardson ain't getting any younger and it's likely more opportunities will present themselves next year. At this point I have seen nothing to suggest Riewoldt or Hughes are a better option.
In the final year of his contract. it's going to be a case of now for Schulz & whilst it defies logic, I think he can do it still despite how frustrating he is.
In saying that if a club looking for a KPF offered a second round selection for him I would take it.
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sarge = frustrating :banghead
keep for me, but only because of our lack of kpp
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Credit where it's due. Sarge's efforts today over 4 quarters is what he needs to do every week if he does survive past trade week and is at Punt Rd next year. He also kicked the crunch goal on the siren before half-time to keep Coburg in the game.
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was crap at the marking and goal-kicking game he was meant to play
but his work at ground level was fantastic
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send him home.
An absolute Dud!
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Keeper for me. And hasn't the Crows experiment proven to be a bad thing look at Sugar, the biggest dud.
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See if we can swap him for Ryan Murphy somehow.
Both of those boys need a chance of scenery imho.
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was crap at the marking and goal-kicking game he was meant to play
Yeah, but wasn't really the day for that type of play.
Riewoldt started first 5 mins ok then dissapeared, finished off ok with a bit of luck chucked in.
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was crap at the marking and goal-kicking game he was meant to play
Yeah, but wasn't really the day for that type of play.
Riewoldt started first 5 mins ok then dissapeared, finished off ok with a bit of luck chucked in.
yeah in all honesty it was unbelievably windy. I remember one of the early kicks by a willy player was dragged way way left from its target
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send him home.
An absolute Dud!
I hope we all watched him today, has no idea
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Can't blame Richo for that.
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send him home.
An absolute Dud!
I hope we all watched him today, has no idea
Jack - You seem to take too much pleasure in running down people, whether they be players or coaches. That's how it appears to me, anyway.
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send him home.
An absolute Dud!
I hope we all watched him today, has no idea
Jack - You seem to take too much pleasure in running down people, whether they be players or coaches. That's how it appears to me, anyway.
You just dont like the truth Gordon.
Schultz is a dud.
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you can't deny that his ground work was good yesteray, laid some good tackles
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schultz is a dud allright apart from one brisbane game he played i cant remember him actually doing anything good in a game.
he will get picked up no doubt
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Snippet from the Herald-Sun...
It's believed clubs inquired about contracted forward Jay Schulz, but there was little interest in Andrew Krakouer.
(http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/stuff.[/url)
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Snippet from the Herald-Sun...
It's believed clubs inquired about contracted forward Jay Schulz, but there was little interest in Andrew Krakouer.
(http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/stuff.[/url)
Krak is just a few days away from retirement.
on ur bike son and schulz, well what can i say he is a absolute dud not to mention a face that looks like my pit bull roger.
what else have we got really in the forward line...after richo goes we r stuffed in that department unless polak comes up the ground.
he needs to put on a bit of size and actually try on the field..
12 months or send him to plugger locketts farm
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I heard Schulz has been traded to the Bombers today
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I heard Schulz has been traded to the Bombers today
where did you hear this ht? or are u taking the pee?
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I heard Schulz has been traded to the Bombers today
u takin the pizz :rollin
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Boys I received a message regarding this and I wanted to confirm as someone from here may have received the news well before it was disclosed on the media outlets. So I am just as interested as all of you. I apologise for any inconvenience if the rumour proves to be false.
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Boys I received a message regarding this and I wanted to confirm as someone from here may have received the news well before it was disclosed on the media outlets. So I am just as interested as all of you. I apologise for any inconvenience if the rumour proves to be false.
oooo :clapping
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Boys I received a message regarding this and I wanted to confirm as someone from here may have received the news well before it was disclosed on the media outlets. So I am just as interested as all of you. I apologise for any inconvenience if the rumour proves to be false.
Any more to this Schulz to the Bombers rumour HT74 as far as what a trade would involve ... i.e. what pick to us?
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Boys I received a message regarding this and I wanted to confirm as someone from here may have received the news well before it was disclosed on the media outlets. So I am just as interested as all of you. I apologise for any inconvenience if the rumour proves to be false.
Any more to this Schulz to the Bombers rumour HT74 as far as what a trade would involve ... i.e. what pick to us?
1st rounder :pray :lol
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Boys I received a message regarding this and I wanted to confirm as someone from here may have received the news well before it was disclosed on the media outlets. So I am just as interested as all of you. I apologise for any inconvenience if the rumour proves to be false.
Any more to this Schulz to the Bombers rumour HT74 as far as what a trade would involve ... i.e. what pick to us?
No I was merely told by a mate of mine who is a Bombers fan that "he had on good authority" that a trade had taken place. As I previously stated I heard that came on here to see whether it was fact and tried to confirm whilst looking on ours and Bombers websites to try and confirm. As I said previously I apologise for getting people hopes up and down regarding this issue.I guess my only fault is I am merely a supporter who is as keen as the next Tiger fan to see what we end up with and I got caught in the moment without confirming the legitimacy of this rumour. Once again sorry guys.
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From Ch 10 news:
Schulz swapped to Port Adelaide for a pick within 24 hours.
Morton, McMahon and Hooper expected to be Tigers.
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Pack your bags Jay, you have been a total waste of space.
Played one game in your time at Tigerland.
He will probably star for Port.
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Second rounder. :pray
First rounder out of the question you'd think and third not worth it.
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Wouldn't surprise me in the sense that if we are having Morton, Hooper and maybe McMahon come in, as well as using the mandatory 3 picks in the ND we will need some list space. I'd want pick 15 for him, their second round pick is too low.
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whats their second round pick?
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great news l knew Shultz was gunna be traded now l can jump up & down that Richmond finaly stuffed him off
He was one of the most useless players Richmond has had l dont care how he goes anywhere else just that his gone makes me happy
his not even VFL standard
what we get for him anything worthwhile
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whats their second round pick?
Pick 33.
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whats their second round pick?
Pick 33.
get stuffed.
say hi to rodan for me at least he tried
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thats ok 33 thats all he was worth if that
at least we can trade that pick 33 or use it
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And when Richo retires who do we have.... ? The only players I can think of are still teenagers and aren't certainties just yet.
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he was contracted so he really didnt want to stay and prove his worth, do we really want that kind of player?
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And when Richo retires who do we have.... ? The only players I can think of are still teenagers and aren't certainties just yet.
Don't let facts get in the way of a good player slagging. This place is tending more and more towards PRE every day, every thread turns into a forum to discuss what duds all our players are.
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And when Richo retires who do we have.... ? The only players I can think of are still teenagers and aren't certainties just yet.
Don't let facts get in the way of a good player slagging. This place is tending more and more towards PRE every day, every thread turns into a forum to discuss what duds all our players are.
u dont have to come here and how dare u compare us to that scum
why not just stay on the other forums and stay away from here if u think that
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And when Richo retires who do we have.... ? The only players I can think of are still teenagers and aren't certainties just yet.
Don't let facts get in the way of a good player slagging. This place is tending more and more towards PRE every day, every thread turns into a forum to discuss what duds all our players are.
u dont have to come here and how dare u compare us to that scum
why not just stay on the other forums and stay away from here if u think that
Because there is normally an intelligent level of conversation going on here, but lately there is a major trend towards every thread being taken over by a select few keyboard heros wanting to make themselves feel good be bagging our players. Just like the other site I mentioned.
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Schulz was seen touring Alberton today by Ch 7
Swapped for pick 16 according to 3aw
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its that time of the yr, no footy is on, ppl just bored
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sorry didnt see this thread before ... it seems we got 16.
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sorry didnt see this thread before ... it seems we got 16.
Yep 3aw said that.
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hopefully gourdis or someone big that will be ok is still available at 16
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sorry didnt see this thread before ... it seems we got 16.
So effectively we get picks 16, 30 & Morton in exchange for Schulz and pick 19 if the Morton trade is the one in the papers. I can live with that. Leaves us with picks 2, 16, 18, 30 all up + Morton. A good trade IMO.
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so it seems like we will get cale at 2, so lets hope some good big bodies are around at 16 and 18
and hopefully we get hooper and lets pray that either warnock or mclean ends up in the psd, im hoping for mclean
please god send the rfc some luck
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sorry didnt see this thread before ... it seems we got 16.
So effectively we get picks 16, 30 & Morton in exchange for Schulz and pick 19 if the Morton trade is the one in the papers. I can live with that. Leaves us with picks 2, 16, 18, 30 all up + Morton. A good trade IMO.
I agree although Id hope to keep 19. Give West Coast 35 for Morton if they want him although 3AW just said we'll be taking Cotchin.
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3AW just said we'll be taking Cotchin.
Let's hope that's right :pray.
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Pick 16 for Sarge would be Gold and a fantastic trade IMO.
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Pick 16 for Sarge would be Gold and a fantastic trade IMO.
Like winning TATTSLOTTO!
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Rodan's year has probably helped here.
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If anywhere is going to get the best out of a player it'll be Port Adelaide.
It'll be interesting to see if Schulz really was any good or not.
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3AW just said we'll be taking Cotchin.
Let's hope that's right :pray.
i think cotchin will end up at tigerland.
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3AW just said we'll be taking Cotchin.
Let's hope that's right :pray.
your damm right about that..he is the man we need
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can someone confirm that it will be 16 for schulz?
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can someone confirm that it will be 16 for schulz?
ditto
christmas has come early if true :gotigers
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Jay Schulz to Port Adelaide for a second round pick.
Link. (http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/pick-of-the-trades/2007/10/10/1191695990409.html)
Richmond's Jay Schulz is almost certain to trade his Tiger jumper for a teal, white and black one.
The Richmond forward flew to Adelaide yesterday to meet Port Adelaide and his manager, Liam Pickering, said he was arranging contractual terms.
(http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/shaw-might-head-to-brisbane/2007/10/10/1191695990919.html?page=stuff.[/url)
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first round sounded way to good to be true
if miller trades pick 18 for morton, someone should pop his knee caps!
miller use ur head for once not ur ego
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In all fairness we can't be shocked that Port hasn't offered pick 16 for Sarge. However pick 33 in a weak draft that will struggle to find good players past picks 25-30 isn't getting much in return.
In the 3-way deal we swapped Schulz for McMahon. Now that the Dogs have said they don't want Damon White, our trade is now Schulz + pick 18 for McMahon + pick 33. We've lost 15 spots in the draft in one day going from a 3-way deal to a 2-way deal ???.
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In all fairness we can't be shocked that Port hasn't offered pick 16 for Sarge. However pick 33 in a weak draft that will struggle to find good players past picks 25-30 isn't getting much in return.
In the 3-way deal we swapped Schulz for McMahon. Now that the Dogs have said they don't want Damon White, our trade is now Schulz + pick 18 for McMahon + pick 33. We've lost 15 spots in the draft in one day going from a 3-way deal to a 2-way deal ???.
thats what miller means by the rfc being "active"
miller is a class opne d head, full of his own sh it, and as i said, he is out to destroy us.
btw, wasnt miller supposed to have taken a backward step through all this.
march may as well start packing his bags along with miller and the tanned salesmann
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In all fairness we can't be shocked that Port hasn't offered pick 16 for Sarge. However pick 33 in a weak draft that will struggle to find good players past picks 25-30 isn't getting much in return.
In the 3-way deal we swapped Schulz for McMahon. Now that the Dogs have said they don't want Damon White, our trade is now Schulz + pick 18 for McMahon + pick 33. We've lost 15 spots in the draft in one day going from a 3-way deal to a 2-way deal ???.
thats what miller means by the rfc being "active"
miller is a class opne d head, full of his own sh it, and as i said, he is out to destroy us.
btw, wasnt miller supposed to have taken a backward step through all this.
march may as well start packing his bags along with miller and the tanned salesmann
No, thats in the draft, Francis Jackson should have all the kids worked out. As Football Manager Greg is doing his job. However I have no doubt he's sticking his nose into Jackson's business as well. :banghead
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ask him yourself why why why?????
GMiller@richmondfc.com.au
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ask him yourself why why why?????
GMiller@richmondfc.com.au
People should wait until everything closes tomorrow on the trade front before asking what we did and why. He may still get a good pick for schulz, he may find a decent deal for a ruckman ... who knows. Im advocating patience until tomorrow.
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its not good enuf mate it really isnt..
ill reserve my judgement till this time 2mow but i cant see how they will do any trades that we r happy with judging by what they have come up with so far
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Has there been any finalisation of this trade of schulz to Port?
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thats what miller means by the rfc being "active"
miller is a class opne d head, full of his own sh it, and as i said, he is out to destroy us.
btw, wasnt miller supposed to have taken a backward step through all this.
march may as well start packing his bags along with miller and the tanned salesmann
(http://www.parentingbeyondbelief.com/babybathgerman.gif)
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5AA just reported that the deal on the table is this: Not confirmed or done yet!
Schulz to Port Adelaide
Symes to Adelaide
Adelaide's pick 28 (that they got for Mattner) to Port
Port would then ontrade pick 28 to Richmond
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9151103&postcount=75
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5AA just reported that the deal on the table is this: Not confirmed or done yet!
Schulz to Port Adelaide
Symes to Adelaide
Adelaide's pick 28 (that they got for Mattner) to Port
Port would then ontrade pick 28 to Richmond
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9151103&postcount=75
if thats the case at least its in the top 30.
but is that all miller has to show for being "active"
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5AA just reported that the deal on the table is this: Not confirmed or done yet!
Schulz to Port Adelaide
Symes to Adelaide
Adelaide's pick 28 (that they got for Mattner) to Port
Port would then ontrade pick 28 to Richmond
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9151103&postcount=75
At 28- its unlikely we'll find anything worthwhile... its a late pick in this draft. 28 this year is like 50 last year.
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5AA just reported that the deal on the table is this: Not confirmed or done yet!
Schulz to Port Adelaide
Symes to Adelaide
Adelaide's pick 28 (that they got for Mattner) to Port
Port would then ontrade pick 28 to Richmond
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9151103&postcount=75
At 28- its unlikely we'll find anything worthwhile... its a late pick in this draft. 28 this year is like 50 last year.
we got connors in the 50s didn't we ;)
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5AA just reported that the deal on the table is this: Not confirmed or done yet!
Schulz to Port Adelaide
Symes to Adelaide
Adelaide's pick 28 (that they got for Mattner) to Port
Port would then ontrade pick 28 to Richmond
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9151103&postcount=75
At 28- its unlikely we'll find anything worthwhile... its a late pick in this draft. 28 this year is like 50 last year.
we got connors in the 50s didn't we ;)
I knew the first reply would come back with the conners thing. Conners fell because of bad test results at the draft camp and whilst he has exhibit great aggression and a bit of mongrel and yes I think he can play he still has a way to go. Im not at all confident that theres a Daniel Conners waiting at 28 this year sadly.
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Selwood?
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Selwood?
If hes there then its a good get, probably he gets taken between 15 and 20.
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Selwood?
If hes there then its a good get, probably he gets taken between 15 and 20.
selwood is a good hard mid. could go anywhere. Distinct possibility to slide but his name could push him right up as well
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Selwood?
If hes there then its a good get, probably he gets taken between 15 and 20.
Probably us then at 18 or 19. If we don't pee those picks against the wall.
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Selwood?
If hes there then its a good get, probably he gets taken between 15 and 20.
Probably us then at 18 or 19. If we don't pee those picks against the wall.
Geelong were interested in Selwood at the draft camp and they have pick 17.
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do we have pick 16 still, we should get selwood if thats the case!
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do we have pick 16 still, we should get selwood if thats the case!
since when did we get 16?
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do we have pick 16 still, we should get selwood if thats the case!
since when did we get 16?
3aw on Wednesday night said Port would give us pick 16 for Schulz which turned out to be garbage. Seems the latest rumour is we're getting pick 28 in a 3-way deal with the Crows. We rejected Port's offer of pick 33.
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The Australian says Sarge will remain a Tiger...
The Tigers yesterday knocked back an offer from Port Adelaide for contracted key-forward Jay Schulz, who will play on at Punt Road.
Richmond football director Greg Miller said the Power's offer of swapping a second-round draft choice was not acceptable.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22571159-5012432,00.html
Adelaide Addy says however we've demanded off Port one of either picks 22, 27 or 28 which would come from Adelaide. Port only want to give up pick 33 for Schulz.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/story/0,22606,22571733-21543,00.html
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Selwood?
If hes there then its a good get, probably he gets taken between 15 and 20.
Probably us then at 18 or 19. If we don't pee those picks against the wall.
One down one to go. ;)
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Sarge looks like staying - SEN
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Smart move IMO. He may not be the messiah, but that's no reason to give him away. If we can't get a suitable trade then don't do the deal. We've lost a lot of talls so far, and picked up none.
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You never know - it might give Schultz the kick up the bum he needs.
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You never know - it might give Schultz the kick up the bum he needs.
agree, and give him performance and work rate incentives
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Sarge apparently asked to be traded Port so it'll be interesting to see what happens now. Is this the kick in the bum Sarge needs or will he wallow away at Coburg because he wasn't traded and then walk/get delisted at the end of 2008.
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The retention of Jay Schulz on a contract for next year that is said to guarantee the former South Australian $275,000.
Schulz had seemed destined for Port Adelaide. He agreed to join the grand finalist after visiting Alberton mid-week but Miller said the club had considered Port's offer of pick 28 "unacceptable". It is believed Richmond wanted pick 18 exchanged for Port's 16.
(http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/brisbane-lion-a-man-in-demand/2007/10/12/1191696179377.html?page=stuff.[/url)
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Why keep players when they cant get a game and play most of the season at Coburg :banghead
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Why keep players when they cant get a game and play most of the season at Coburg :banghead
Is CHB an option?
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Why keep players when they cant get a game and play most of the season at Coburg :banghead
Is CHB an option?
Your up early 1965.?
CHB at Coburg you suggest?
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Why keep players when they cant get a game and play most of the season at Coburg :banghead
Is CHB an option?
Your up early 1965.?
CHB at Coburg you suggest?
5:30 every morning (it makes holidays a bitch but what can you do?)
He is quick and big surely he could learn how to punch the ball?
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when terry 1st came to punt rd , he earmarked jay to be a chb, maybe he should just stick to that and get him to play down back and chase the ball, give him a task rather than try and make the play in the fwd line
may just be what he needs
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when terry 1st came to punt rd , he earmarked jay to be a chb, maybe he should just stick to that and get him to play down back and chase the ball, give him a task rather than try and make the play in the fwd line
may just be what he needs
certainly worth trying.
We have a couple of potential fowards in Jack and Cleve.
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He doesnt read the game too well and when played down in D 50, got lead too the ball too often ;)
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i would of taken p28 for schulz and given that to Footscray for McMahon instead- in effect keeping 3 top 20 picks.
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The age is reporting Shultz will be paid $275k next year at Richmond.
http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/brisbane-lion-a-man-in-demand/2007/10/12/1191696179377.html?page=2 (http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/brisbane-lion-a-man-in-demand/2007/10/12/1191696179377.html?page=2)
"While the acquisitions of Jordan McMahon and Mitch Morton and retention of Jay Schulz on a contract for next year that is said to guarantee the former South Australian $275,000 led rival clubs to question whether the Tigers could afford Brennan, Richmond director of football Greg Miller insisted that they had the room to accommodate him."
We are Fu&ked if this is true, how could somone who has played one decent game in 5 years get that kind of money.
We are a rabble and Miller should be sacked immediately.
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l think your unrating McMahon here
Shultzs got what he deserved :clapping
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The age is reporting Shultz will be paid $275k next year at Richmond.
http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/brisbane-lion-a-man-in-demand/2007/10/12/1191696179377.html?page=2 (http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/brisbane-lion-a-man-in-demand/2007/10/12/1191696179377.html?page=2)
"While the acquisitions of Jordan McMahon and Mitch Morton and retention of Jay Schulz on a contract for next year that is said to guarantee the former South Australian $275,000 led rival clubs to question whether the Tigers could afford Brennan, Richmond director of football Greg Miller insisted that they had the room to accommodate him."
We are Fu&ked if this is true, how could somone who has played one decent game in 5 years get that kind of money.
We are a rabble and Miller should be sacked immediately.
dont beleive everything you read in the papers
the deal for Brennan was not done from Brisbane side
Miller done his job nicely & he aint finished yet
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l think your unrating McMahon here
Shultzs got what he deserved :clapping
Schultz shouldnt be on an AFL list and gets $275,000 and McMahon is worth $170-$220. ::)
Lets see how McMahon goes with less talented support around him
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True Jackstar we have to wait how McMahon goes same as Carlton with Judd its all risk in buisness
& who can confirm Shultz is getting 275K in a final year of contract does anyone have a copy of a document thats states it
Performance based clause would come into effect on that & he aint been performing ;D :rollin
after his good behaviour his contract would have alot of clauses after he lost the club a sponsor
l doubt very much he be getting paid $275k playing at VFL level
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True Jackstar we have to wait how McMahon goes same as Carlton with Judd its all risk in buisness
& who can confirm Shultz is getting 275K in a final year of contract does anyone have a copy of a document thats states it
Performance based clause would come into effect on that & he aint been performing ;D :rollin
after his good behaviour his contract would have alot of clauses after he lost the club a sponsor
l doubt very much he be getting paid $275k playing at VFL level
Alot of players have lop sided contracts.
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l think your unrating McMahon here
Shultzs got what he deserved :clapping
Schultz shouldnt be on an AFL list and gets $275,000 and McMahon is worth $170-$220. ::)
Lets see how McMahon goes with less talented support around him
$275,000, now where did you pull that figure from?
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Read todays Age Roger.
Sure it may not be 100% but would be pretty close to the mark.
The thing that is scary is the $275 quoted in the paper is what he will earn next year at a minimum.
If he plays all year he will be $300plus ::) ::) ::)
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Read todays Age Roger.
Sure it may not be 100% but would be pretty close to the mark.
The thing that is scary is the $275 quoted in the paper is what he will earn next year at a minimum.
If he plays all year he will be $300plus ::) ::) ::)
thanks read the age and noticed that figure thrown out there, made a couple of calls to well sourced people within the football industry and was told flatly that this figure was incorrect by a margin.
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If he plays all year he will be $300plus ::) ::) ::)
Well if he plays all year then he will be living up to the potential he has shown and starting to put in the work required.
Schulz is a funny one, hopefully this is the rocket he needed and he can make a career for himself.
'Must be next season tho'
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What's the average AFL player's salary these days anyway? If it's around 220k then 275k isn't such a huge stretch even if this figure is right.
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Rhyce Shaw was reported as missing out on being traded to Lions because he wanted $200k - too expensive. I thought he was worth that. I imagine it's around 160k average.
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Rhyce Shaw was reported as missing out on being traded to Lions because he wanted $200k - too expensive. I thought he was worth that. I imagine it's around 160k average.
Cheers mjs.
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can tell you for sure $275k is way off the mark for this player in 2008
it be a 2 year contract figure
most bottom range AFL players are given a 2 year contract at 275K base & this came from a AFL player
The Age dont Caro work up there :rollin
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It's probably a back ended contract.
Anyway big deal $275k isn't excessive.
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pull your arse into gear Schulz you piece of sh*t !
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What's the average AFL player's salary these days anyway? If it's around 220k then 275k isn't such a huge stretch even if this figure is right.
I believe that the average is between 150 and 200.
Now 275k is excessive for someone who isnt playing senior football. :banghead :banghead :banghead
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pull your behind into gear Schulz you piece of sh*t !
statements like that give me the sh*ts.
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in a way i was hoping he and meyer would go elsewhere.
if i watched them succeed as rodan and ottens have done, then i would be convinced that playerdevelopment at punt road of younger players is vertually non existent.
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in a way i was hoping he and meyer would go elsewhere.
if i watched them succeed as rodan and ottens have done, then i would be convinced that playerdevelopment at punt road of younger players is vertually non existent.
that's a big worry with me.
i actually like the talent that the club brings in, but the inability for the kids to kick on points to poor development. although i think the kids respond well to Craig McRae he needs better support around him though
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in my opinion, its the number one problem at punt road.
they really dont have a clue in this area and wallace stop going to the solarium and pull your finger out of your date and hire some talent down there.
jade rawlings hardly the most successfull player in the AFL.
im a stong believer players with past success in the AFL bring that to the younger players and i dont know if wallace and his crew are in denial or are just tight with their money but we need a support group who actually do something worthwhile
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in a way i was hoping he and meyer would go elsewhere.
if i watched them succeed as rodan and ottens have done, then i would be convinced that playerdevelopment at punt road of younger players is vertually non existent.
that's a big worry with me.
i actually like the talent that the club brings in, but the inability for the kids to kick on points to poor development. although i think the kids respond well to Craig McRae he needs better support around him though
The problem at Richmond is these kids have the responsibility to perform major roles from go as the senior core around them is thin when it should instead be the senior players who carry the majority of the workload and let the kids develop around them. Lids, Blingers, etc are expected to dominate games or they are seen as failures. Take Lids - he's being tagged as a 20 year old for crying out loud because the opposition see him more as a threat than any senior player we have. Same with Foley who is only 21.
Rodan is a good example. He went to a club where he was No. 16-22 in their side and performed great feeding off the work of Port's star players. Come GF day he went missing because Port's star players were well held.
We need to first develop a new core first which is what we're slowly doing before we too can allow youngsters to develop in their own time with the structure of a more senior core around them.
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in a way i was hoping he and meyer would go elsewhere.
if i watched them succeed as rodan and ottens have done, then i would be convinced that playerdevelopment at punt road of younger players is vertually non existent.
Good post.
Add Cleve Hughes to that list.
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in a way i was hoping he and meyer would go elsewhere.
if i watched them succeed as rodan and ottens have done, then i would be convinced that playerdevelopment at punt road of younger players is vertually non existent.
that's a big worry with me.
i actually like the talent that the club brings in, but the inability for the kids to kick on points to poor development. although i think the kids respond well to Craig McRae he needs better support around him though
The problem at Richmond is these kids have the responsibility to perform major roles from go as the senior core around them is thin when it should instead be the senior players who carry the majority of the workload and let the kids develop around them. Lids, Blingers, etc are expected to dominate games or they are seen as failures. Take Lids - he's being tagged as a 20 year old for crying out loud because the opposition see him more as a threat than any senior player we have. Same with Foley who is only 21.
Rodan is a good example. He went to a club where he was No. 16-22 in their side and performed great feeding off the work of Port's star players. Come GF day he went missing because Port's star players were well held.
We need to first develop a new core first which is what we're slowly doing before we too can allow youngsters to develop in their own time with the structure of a more senior core around them.
i do agree with that to some extent.
ive always said this our senior players, bar browny, tucky, petts, bowden maybe one or 2 others, are not good enough and i doubt they would get a game elsewhere at another club.
our captain in particular just is not up to it and a team like this needs a captain who lifts the team not struggles to kick it 25 meters at times.
harsh, well maybe i am but we have got worse under kane Johnson..fact!!
i was taking to a ex richmond player once and he said our biggest mistake was choosing him as captain and not club people like richo or bowden..
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Royal stating the obvious about Sarge
I think if you asked Jay about his year he would be disappointed with it. Like a few other players this season, at times he showed enormous talent but just didn’t do enough at AFL level. He knows the areas he needs to work on.
http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=52716
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The old chestnut for Jay. He's been training in defence all summer yet obviously went forward last night after half-time and kick a couple of goals as we kicked away.
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The old chestnut for Jay. He's been training in defence all summer yet obviously went forward last night after half-time and kick a couple of goals as we kicked away.
Jay's always been good at the level below AFL and I would a class pre season practice match, against the side lots of people feel will beat us to the wooden spoon this year, as a level below. He always seems to lose his nerve in the real stuff, drops marks duffs kicks.
Having said that ...
It's good to see Jay showing something again this pre season. His body language towards the end of last year really looked disinterested and I felt it was probably time for Jay and the RFC to part ways for both our sakes. Good on him for getting back into it and I would love as much as anyone for him to take the game by the scruff of the neck this year and show detractors (like myself) that we are wrong.
Jay has everything you would want in a big KPP and I really don't care if it is in the forward line or the back line. If he can get his act together he would be an asset to any team.
Perhaps his back line training this pre season has help his forward line work since he may understand better what defenders are trying to do. Fingers crossed.
Come on Jay, your time is now.
:gotigers
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David King said Sarge did well in defence last night so if that's right then perhaps he can do what he did last night and play mainly in the backline and pinchhit up forward rather than going missing for large parts of the game playing solely at FF for the whole game. As you say RROFO he needs to deliver something in the real stuff otherwise it'll be bye-bye for sure at the end of the year.
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David King said Sarge did well in defence last night so if that's right then perhaps he can do what he did last night and play mainly in the backline and pinchhit up forward rather than going missing for large parts of the game playing solely at FF for the whole game. As you say RROFO he needs to deliver something in the real stuff otherwise it'll be bye-bye for sure at the end of the year.
He will be well suited at City Oval Coburg
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I think it depends on where and if Richo is playing. If Richo is then Schulz would be better in the backline but if he isn't then he clearly becomes our best full forward.
When Richo and Schulz play in the say forwardline they don't work together and Richo cuts across Schulz's lead, collides with Jay and never creates space for his younger team mate. So as a result, rather than make our forwardline more dangerous, having the two of them in the F50 becomes counter productive.
So until Richo learns to work with other forwards or moves out of the area, Schulz should be used in the backline.
Stripes
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i think he will play both back and fwd, depending on matchups, and how we are playing. will never be as good as leppitsch but may just be groomed to play like him, as a defender and as mt said, pinch hit up fwd when required or whenever richo keeps missing or getting in the way
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There os the problem, if schulz is getting a game ,we are in trouble
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yep, but u never know, he just may turn out and be a handy player, or just continue to be a lazt prick, only time will tell and if he turns out to be a dud, that just makes miller and terry look more stupid
i recall when terry was a commentator and not a coach, he said jay was hopeless and would never make the grade, if thats the case why has terry kept him on all this time
is terry just plain stupid
or has terry seen something in jay that impresses him
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IIRC Port were up for trading at 2nd rounder for schulz. If that really is the case there must be something to work with there.
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best spot is defence for the coburg seconds.
the less i see of this loser the better
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Fighting for a spot in the best 22 with Polak IMO.
Both these players have it all before them.
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Schulz - Centre Half Forward or Full Forward
Polak - Centre Half Back
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Schulz - Centre Half Forward or Full Forward
Polak - Centre Half Back
I completely agree!
When he went forward (without Richo cutting off his leads, colliding with him, spoiling his marks and demanding the ball) on Friday night he kicked 2 goals in a quarter.
Cleve and Jay would make a great forward team if Richo played further up the ground.
Stripes
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Schulz - Centre Half Forward or Full Forward
Polak - Centre Half Back
It's pretty crazy having a good shot for goal like Schulz in defence and throwing a very ordinary one like Polak forward.
IMO it's a total admission that what Polak was recruited for has failed.
We were/are screaming for a player exactly of his size/strength? in defence but he seemingly can't defend!!! :(
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Schulz won't make it as a forward - no footy smarts whatsoever. If he makes it in the AFL it will be as a third tall defender.
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Sarge will now say defence - it's safer down there :yep
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Most likely MT
Richo dont like no-one in his area he is a huge man & takes some pulling up
but crashing packs is what l like seeing it takes the confidence away from the backman
Richo has some of the best hands in the buisness
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I have no probs with our forwards crashing packs. In fact I too TM wish our forwards were more aggressive towards the footy and they would crash packs more often. I just wish Richo when he does crash into packs took out the opposition rather than poor Sarge lol.
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l quickly caught a glance of the news it looks like Sarge was hit by someone else but as l said l nearly missed it & couldnot tell exactly
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Adelaide offered p28 for sarge. If they offer anything a pick anywhere between 28 and 45 at the end of this year we have to take it for Schulz.
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you will find if Shultz dont produce this year his AFL career will be over no-one will want him he will be another Jason Cloke
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you will find if Shultz dont produce this year his AFL career will be over no-one will want him he will be another Jason Cloke
hahaha...he already is
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It was Port who offered pick 28. We wanted to swap our pick 18 for their 16 as part of the trade too but Port said no so the deal fell through. In hindsight post-draft if the club knew Rance would fall to 18 then they probably would have accepted 28 on its own.
l quickly caught a glance of the news it looks like Sarge was hit by someone else but as l said l nearly missed it & couldnot tell exactly
Yep TM, it was Swan Lewis Roberts-Thompson (#30). The initial media reports blamed Richo but to me too it looked like LRT collected Schulz.
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you will find if Shultz dont produce this year his AFL career will be over no-one will want him he will be another Jason Cloke
Im my opinion he shoudnt be on the list on the first place ::)
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& l agree Jack l never seen him perform apart from once against Brisbane
I still beleive Cleve Hughes will take his spot
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i still cant understand that people still mention this pathetic excuse for a footballer.
He is a loose cannon this guy and i hope he gives the game up years end and joins his other mates on the sidelines, richi lounder, jason cloke and co
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& l agree Jack l never seen him perform apart from once against Brisbane
I still beleive Cleve Hughes will take his spot
You know what even more funnier or unbelievable ? That supporters still hang his existance at punt road that he kicked 6 goals in one game, big deal
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that was along time ago
McGrath kick 5 in his 1st game & they axe him quickly
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All clubs are reluctant to offload KPPs. Even Geelong hung onto Gardiner and Playfair for 6 years. This year is Sarge's sixth.
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what his been at the club 6 years & had one good game OMG he should have been delisted
l would have kept Hartigan he had more balls
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All clubs are reluctant to offload KPPs. Even Geelong hung onto Gardiner and Playfair for 6 years. This year is Sarge's sixth.
No doubt he's on his last chance.
I think he still might offer something this season.
He is one of the most skilled talls on our list...but the clock is ticking for Jay.
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I remember reading somewhere he averages 6 possesions a game, ::)
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I remember reading somewhere he averages 6 possesions a game, ::)
He's not a midfielder but he does have to kick goals or stop them.
If he can't do that then there's no place for him but the number of possessions really means Jack poo.
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Defence for mine
:thumbsup
And it aint just abou the number of possessions btw ::)
Have seen him do ther little 1%ers in our fwd line that no-one cares to notice. Perhaps Jay is a bit too team focused ;)
Here's a thought maybe he should start playing selfish and get 20 kicks but not do the team things and then everyone can say he averages 15-20 possies a game ::)
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Fitness or lack of it has always been a issue for Sarge IMO as well as our crap delivery to our forwards. He often goes missing from about the 1/3 way mark of a game.
Schulz's stats:
Matches Avg Disp. Avg Marks G.B
2003: 5 3.6 1.4 4.1
2004: 16 5.5 2.6 10.5 (includes the 6 vs Bris)
2005: 4 8.0 2.5 1.1
2006: 12 5.3 3.2 16.4
2007: 12 7.8 4.5 14.14 (9 of those goals in first 4 rounds)
http://finalsiren.com/PlayerStats.asp?PlayerID=1239
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forward ... full forward ...
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Defence for mine
:thumbsup
And it aint just abou the number of possessions btw ::)
Have seen him do ther little 1%ers in our fwd line that no-one cares to notice. Perhaps Jay is a bit too team focused ;)
Here's a thought maybe he should start playing selfish and get 20 kicks but not do the team things and then everyone can say he averages 15-20 possies a game ::)
no offence mate but seriously how can you constantly defend this guy.
he is a complete waste of time and our clubs money.
he gets paid well by the rfc and has delivered sweet ..... all.
he is the one of the most useless footballers if thats what u call him, to walk into Punt Road
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I want to dip me lids to Daniel on this forum.
Daniel has become a great sledger. You have made us proud. Jacko and the rest of the company are in meetings to decide if we will give you full membership status to the sledgers group. The one thing we are most impressed with lately is your capacity to take pot shots from the cheap seats. Keep up the good work Danny. We will be informing you shortly on the outcome of the meetings.
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I want to dip me lids to Daniel on this forum.
Daniel has become a great sledger. You have made us proud. Jacko and the rest of the company are in meetings to decide if we will give you full membership status to the sledgers group. The one thing we are most impressed with lately is your capacity to take pot shots from the cheap seats. Keep up the good work Danny. We will be informing you shortly on the outcome of the meetings.
thanks i take that as a compliment
apparently im not allowed an opinion. get over it mate.
whenever u mention the likes of schulz and co what do you expect me to say or do.
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I want to dip me lids to Daniel on this forum.
Daniel has become a great sledger. You have made us proud. Jacko and the rest of the company are in meetings to decide if we will give you full membership status to the sledgers group. The one thing we are most impressed with lately is your capacity to take pot shots from the cheap seats. Keep up the good work Danny. We will be informing you shortly on the outcome of the meetings.
Cheap seats?
Nah daniel is sure to say the same thing to Sarge's face.
He's a tough guy is daniel.
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I want to dip me lids to Daniel on this forum.
Daniel has become a great sledger. You have made us proud. Jacko and the rest of the company are in meetings to decide if we will give you full membership status to the sledgers group. The one thing we are most impressed with lately is your capacity to take pot shots from the cheap seats. Keep up the good work Danny. We will be informing you shortly on the outcome of the meetings.
thanks i take that as a compliment
apparently im not allowed an opinion. get over it mate.
whenever u mention the likes of schulz and co what do you expect me to say or do.
Wasnt making a criticism Danny just having some fun with the brightside brigade in here thats all.
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I want to dip me lids to Daniel on this forum.
Daniel has become a great sledger. You have made us proud. Jacko and the rest of the company are in meetings to decide if we will give you full membership status to the sledgers group. The one thing we are most impressed with lately is your capacity to take pot shots from the cheap seats. Keep up the good work Danny. We will be informing you shortly on the outcome of the meetings.
Cheap seats?
Nah daniel is sure to say the same thing to Sarge's face.
He's a tough guy is daniel.
spot on thats exactly what i would do. u know me so well magic mclean
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no offence mate but seriously how can you constantly defend this guy.
he is a complete waste of time and our clubs money.
he gets paid well by the rfc and has delivered sweet ..... all.
he is the one of the most useless footballers if thats what u call him, to walk into Punt Road
None taken.
But if a players is given instructions game day on how to play and gaining poseessions is not part of the criteria and they then play to those instructions how can you be critical of the number of possessions they get. :-\
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What did we all think of Sarge's game on Thursday night?
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What did we all think of Sarge's game on Thursday night?
Promising. Saw some really good things from the Sarge without being absolutely blown away. Didn't look out of place in defence. Could be more than handy, he's a very useful sort of player and a good size, has a presence on the field. Fingers crossed.
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regardless what many think about sarge, he does have the talent and what it takes, all he needs is work ethic and application. he will be ok, now that he knows he was just about traded and has been given a 2nd chance
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Schulz looked quite comfortable at CHB. Read the play reasonable well, showed good skills and looked very agile at ground level. Really hope Terry perseveres with Sarge at CHB and Cleve at FF. :clapping
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Schulz is holding up CHB for now. Rance will take it from him. Schulz should have been traded last year for p28.
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Like RROFO pleased with his game at CHB. Liked the fact he finally did the team things. I had to do a double-take when he lead hard into space on the wing in the first quarter lol. Sarge has the skills but it's up to him to show he now has the fitness and smarts to stack up against the best forward lines. Carlton have one of the worst.
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liked him in the backline will play a adam hunter type role this year
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liked him in the backline will play a adam hunter type role this year
We need a spare parts man like that, but personally I feel he is better suited in the backline. That is not to say he can't be used as a pinch hitter up forward but he needs to lift his work rate and application as I feel it may be his last chance at AFL.
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15 possessions.
Encouraging nights work in defence. :thumbsup
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Noticed in EOTT that for the second week in a row Plough has Schulz as his "surprise packet". It might be a scarey thought for some lol but Jay is probably near the lead in our B&F after two rounds :outtahere.
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How's My Trade Value: Jay Schulz
aflinsider.net | July 11th 2008
Why their team should trade them:
They probably already should have traded him, they decided not to a year ago and may have another chance after the 2008 season. He isn't a regular in the Richmond side, they have given him enough chances and would be better served by going with other players now, like J Riewoldt and Rance.
Which team would be a good fit:
Port Adelaide wanted him, and with Tredrea getting old and White possibly on the way out they do need more height.
Similar trade in the past:
He was nearly on his way to Port Adelaide a year ago, for a late second round pick, so that gives some idea of his trade value. Richmond may not get as good an offer this time. Playfair and C Gardiner were a couple of key position players who were traded last year, their trade value ranged from a late draft pick to being given away.
Possible trade scenarios:
To Richmond: The Power's third round pick
To Port Adelaide: Jay Schulz
To Richmond: Cain Ackland
To Carlton: Jay Schulz
To Richmond: Ryan Murphy
To Fremantle: Jay Schulz
http://www.aflinsider.net/hows-my-trade-value-jay-schulz/
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I already commented on the aflinsider website about this.
If Schulz could only attract hAckland in a trade, then you'd delist him.
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OMG cain ackland, you have got to be joking.
even Jay is a better footballer than ackland..
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you wouldnot trade Shulzs for any of them players, his form warrants a early 2 round pick at the least.
Advatages is he can play forward / defence & is still a good age.
If he wanted to further his career Port Adelaide really need him need year but l think it would take thier first or second pick ;D
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Schulz has started to play some good footy in the defensive half of late and kicked a handy goal last week to start the rot for the Weagles. At 23/24 he is still young enough to contribute to our future. He is too good to trade for a third round pick regardless.
Stripes
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Schulz has started to play some good footy in the defensive half of late and kicked a handy goal last week to start the rot for the Weagles. At 23/24 he is still young enough to contribute to our future. He is too good to trade for a third round pick regardless.
Stripes
l agree Stripes, he is playing good football & we have kept him at the club teaching him for many years & his starting to bare his fruits now, it would be crazy to trade him after all that work unless it was for a good quality player like say Dale Thomas ;D
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With Polak's future unknown, Schulz is definitely a required player
I think he would have been kept anyway, but our hand is forced now
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l agree Stripes, he is playing good football & we have kept him at the club teaching him for many years & his starting to bare his fruits now, it would be crazy to trade him after all that work
Lol @ Ackland. Yet again the AFL :P Insider has no effing idea. I don't know why you even bother quoting them OE.
Whilst not to the extent of Kel Moore, I think Jay has come on in leaps and bounds this season and I would be loathe to trade him at this point.
A natural forward he is really only learning to play as a key back this year and has made a pretty good fist of it. I think he still has room for improvement yet.
He has excellent skills for a big man and is a good compliment to our side because of his versatility.
He finally looks like he has got himself fit too.
Sure he is not off the table if the trade benefits us but I would expect a pick inside the top 20 for him.
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needs to be traded although worth little.
He is an IMPOSTER
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Im still waiting for him to have his breakout game....................still waiting.
at this point Jay looks to be a part player.
he will be given a job and will go out and do his best. no more.
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Im still waiting for him to have his breakout game....................still waiting.
at this point Jay looks to be a part player.
he will be given a job and will go out and do his best. no more.
Was at Coburg 2 weeks ago and has been back to Coburg on 3 seperate occasions this year. Now thats a great AFL career :thumbsup ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Im still waiting for him to have his breakout game....................still waiting.
at this point Jay looks to be a part player.
he will be given a job and will go out and do his best. no more.
Was at Coburg 2 weeks ago and has been back to Coburg on 3 seperate occasions this year. Now thats a great AFL career :thumbsup ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
no mate thats the case of his coach making him earn a game.
to his credit he has responded every time.
was outstanding last week, beat the Q hands down, pumped him infact
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Im still waiting for him to have his breakout game....................still waiting.
at this point Jay looks to be a part player.
he will be given a job and will go out and do his best. no more.
Was at Coburg 2 weeks ago and has been back to Coburg on 3 seperate occasions this year. Now thats a great AFL career :thumbsup ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
no mate thats the case of his coach making him earn a game.
to his credit he has responded every time.
was outstanding last week, beat the Q hands down, pumped him infact
I could of beaten the Q last week, ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) :banghead
Last weeks game was like playing against Witches Hats, he has nothing against QUALITY OPPOSITION
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Good to see the aflinsider thinking outside the "cricket" box cos this stuff is of an grade d1ckhead.
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Given Port are bottom 4 this year you'd think the highest pick they would offer this time around would be their 3rd rounder (#40). If they don't win another game for the year they could do that and still have 3 picks in the top 24. They would have to be desperate for talls to cough up pick 24.
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Can we realy afford to trade any tall players out of the club at this stage?
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Schulz is part of what we are growing - depth. He may not be first picked but as Infamy pointed out, the minute a Polak type goes down then he becomes very important. And given the improvement he has shown down back this year I can see no case for a trade.
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Schulz says it’s stressful to be a Tiger
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
Sun 27 July, 2008
JAY SCHULZ is perfectly happy to admit that Richmond isn't a good side to follow if you can't handle a little tension in your life.
The Tigers are now right in the mix for the eight after another result that went right down to the wire, beating Brisbane by three points.
Last week it was Joel Bowden icing the clock by conceding behinds – this week Bowden was icing the game by booting the winner with just a few seconds left.
Schulz agreed it was tough to do it so tough.
"The stress levels at the moment? After the last two weeks? Not real good on the health," he said with a laugh. "It's just amazing – the crowd was amazing.
"Everything just happens on instinct and you're just hoping the clock runs down, and it eventually did.
"Bowdo (Bowden) was solid as a rock – we always knew he could kick straight … one minute he's playing down back and running through points, the next minute he's kicking them. He's kicked four straight, he hasn't missed. He's fantastic."
'The sarge', as he is known to the Richmond faithful, (think Hogan's Heroes), said finals were now on the agenda after five wins from the last six matches.
"Three on the trot as well – it's really turned our season around.
"Anything could happen now – we knew if we got this one then we could have a real crack next week.
"We don't know – anything can happen."
But Schulz warned that lapses like the last two third terms – both of which nearly cost Richmond the match when they let the opposition kick a string of unanswered goals – had to be sorted out.
"I'm not sure - we're trying to do a few different things, because we know it's been a trend through the year, and it's hurting us.
"It's going to cost us, sooner or later, and we've just got to keep working on it and try something else."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsid=64228
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good to hear thier trying to work on the 3rd quarter problem
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I liked a few things Sarge did last night that got the team going again. The shepherd/shirtfront on the city side wing early in the last quarter showed the Lions we weren't just going to lie down.
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Plough in EOTT has Schulz down back as his unsung hero for this round and said it was the best he's seen Sarge play at AFL level.
This was as good as I have seen him play for the Club .... his disposal by foot set us up time and time again, ensuring that we were able to maintain possession of the ball against Hawthorn’s zone defence. .... ‘Schulzy’, generally, kicks it as well as any.
The most pleasing aspect of Jay’s game last Sunday was his competitive nature, which I felt was the best I have seen it at senior league level. He would regularly come back and assist our main defenders against the Hawks’ power forwards, which made him an even more valuable player for us.
Full report at:
http://210.50.4.102/rfc/
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Schulz is Useful.
CHB or CHF.
he is our Fix It Man.
has courage, great mark, a bit of pace too
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Drop Jack play Schulz foward and bring in Rance.
:thumbsup
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Drop Jack play Schulz foward and bring in Rance.
:thumbsup
I agree. Gave us a target up forward in the last quarter which we were sorely missing up until then. Looked dangerous and freed up the other forwards with his presense.
He has become an important asset to our team and tactical game piece for TW.
Stripes
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Drop Jack play Schulz foward and bring in Rance.
:thumbsup
I agree 100%
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Drop Jack play Schulz foward and bring in Rance.
:thumbsup
Yep.
Jak has been no more than a passenger of late...next year will depend on how hard a pre season he puts in.
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Drop Jack play Schulz foward and bring in Rance.
:thumbsup
Yep.
Jak has been no more than a passenger of late...next year will depend on how hard a pre season he puts in.
I thought I had finally said something sensible but then Ox agreed with me as well.
Thank you Ox for restoring my lack of faith in my myself.
Seriously though it has been a long season for the youngsters.
Next year most should continue to get better.
I think we are in for an exciting couple of years, as long as we don't stuff up the trades and the draft.
:cheers
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The Western Bulldogs' search for a key forward has led them to express interest in Richmond's Jay Schulz, who also has attracted interest from Port Adelaide; Schulz was recently signed to a two-year contract.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/hawthorn-to-meet-swan-okeefe/2008/10/06/1223145262706.html
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I would look Ports pick #22 for Schultz.
I somewhat doubt they will offer us that - and it means we have pretty much no KPP who are not kids outside Richo & Simmonds with Schultz and Polak gone. However it would give the like of Rance, Hughes & Gourdis a big chance to make the 22.
More so it would give us picks #8, #22, #26, #42 which would be good for a final batch of kids to set up the list for 09 and the future with Pettifer, Tivs, Hyde etc. going.
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Greg Denham reckons Schulz is on the trade table despite Sarge signing a new 2-year contract.
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Greg Denham reckons Schulz is on the trade table despite Sarge signing a new 2-year contract.
I think Greg Denham has issues ::)
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If Polak's accident had never happened then Sarge could've been a big chance to be traded. But he looks safe with Polly's future up in the air and our lack of KPPs on our list.
Greg Denham reckons Schulz is on the trade table despite Sarge signing a new 2-year contract.
I think Greg Denham has issues ::)
Yep he fantasizes about being a real journo :wallywink.
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Greg Denham reckons Schulz is on the trade table despite Sarge signing a new 2-year contract.
I dont believe he is, we honestly would not have gone to the trouble of signing him last week if that was our intent, sarge gives us a fair amount of flexibility...I wouldnt get interested unless it was a top 15 pick, which is not likely/..they can get stuffed
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This time last year many on here lamented yours truly included as to why we did not take Ports pick 28 for Schulz and were even more horrified to see that we took Jordy at pick 19. I just found it a little perplexing we signed 10 players a week before trade week to in essence possibly keep other clubs from showing interest in our players or conversely give us the opportunity to lay them on the table.
I agree Polak's injury has worked in Sarge's favour and we are in need of talls so he will be retained. I don't think he will be traded unless we get an offer too good to refuse.
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It .... appears highly unlikely that Richmond's Jay Schulz will head to the Dogs.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24463180-19742,00.html
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I honestly can't believe that we would trade Schulz with Polak in the never zone at this minute.
What is he going to do make a miracle recovery. Or is there something not being told.
It will be a big loss to us if he leaves. We have done the hard yards with him only to let him go.
I don't understand why or what for.
Is it that Terry still is bleeding Bulldog tears?
I peed off if it happens. :banghead
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No way I'd want to trade Schulz to the Dogs anyway now that their 1st round pick is gone to Ayce Cordy and their 2nd selection isn't til about pick 30.
Hansen is massively overrated, I hope they get him
A straight swap for Farren Ray wouldn't be far off the mark, they're both hopeless
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Greg Denham now says today Schulz is likely to stay at Richmond given he's signed a new 2-year contract and there's been little interest since Monday.
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Greg Denham now says today Schulz is likely to stay at Richmond given he's signed a new 2-year contract and there's been little interest since Monday.
Someone needs to find the worse and smelliest pair of socks and put them in this Greg Denhams mouth.
I think it would fit right. :wallywink
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Greg Denham now says today Schulz is likely to stay at Richmond given he's signed a new 2-year contract and there's been little interest since Monday.
Probably because he's been newly contracted in the past 2 weeks, which sends a pretty clear message. :wallywink
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Schulz shooting for better 2009
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
Sun 14 December, 2008
FOR RICHMOND defender Jay Schulz, 2009 is all about bridging the gap between his good performances and his poor ones.
The 23-year-old played 18 games this year and, although he felt it was his most consistent season since his 2003 debut, he knows there's plenty of scope to improve again.
"I'm happy, but not over-excited," he told richmondfc.com.au. "My expectation on myself this year was to play all 22 games and that didn’t happen, but that’s footy – nothing ever works out the way you want it to.
"Because I’ve been so up and down in previous years – one week good, the next week absolute rubbish – I need to make my lows not as low, trying to find the middle, which I think I have improved on this year."
Forty-nine appearances in five years, including just four in 2005 after an early-season ankle injury, encouraged Schulz to re-assess what he could offer the side as it looked to rebound from finishing on the bottom of the ladder.
He gave coach Terry Wallace an option in the key positions or a rebounding role, his size complementing the side's running backmen as well as teammates working to nullify opposition targets.
Schulz believes his fitness was something that may have held him back in previous years, but has got it to a level that encourages him to have a greater impact on games.
"Fitness has always been the biggest thing that I’ve always tried to improve, so I’ll just keep working with that," he said.
"I'm starting to realise as well that if I play consistent footy, I can have a big impact on how we’re going."
After three wins and a draw in 2007, the Tigers knew the first half of the new campaign was going to be tough.
Two wins, two losses and another draw came in the first five rounds, before they slipped to Hawthorn, St Kilda and Geelong.
But round nine's victory over Essendon showed an important resolve and a second triumph over the Bombers (in round 16) was flanked by wins over West Coast and the Brisbane Lions.
Suddenly, the Tigers were in finals contention.
"We battled early – we had a really tough draw in the first half of the year, and we knew that was the case, and we knew the second half of the year would be our opportunity," Schulz said.
"Our expectation was to play finals and we were almost there. We were only half a win off."
And Schulz is confident his teammates, under new captain Chris Newman, can make a charge for September this time around.
The belief is similar to the philosophy he has for himself – the potential is there, it's just a matter of finding the best of it.
"We definitely have to make the finals next year, and I don’t see any reason why we can’t," he said.
"We’ve got that much talent in our side. The boys are starting to grow together, and we’ve got games into a lot of younger players now.
"The second half of the year showed that we’re starting to understand how each other plays and we’re starting to stick to our disciplines that we’ve put in place."
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsid=70823
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A fair enough assessment on himself from Sarge. It seems coming within a whisker of being traded to Port has given him that kick up the backside he needed. He's also now going to have more pressure on him from below with more young talls on our list pushing for spots in the side. The days of remaining on our list for years because you were one of the few talls we had are disappearing. Sarge needs to step up even further in 2009 as a senior player. As someone else mentioned once before on here it feels like he has been around much longer than someone who is still only 23.
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Tell you what though, the opportunity is there for him to stand up this year, with Richo out of the forward line for chunks of the game and Polly out of action, either the spot as FF or the CHF/CHB flexible postional player is up for grabs.
C'mon Jay.
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wow only 23 been round for ages potential needs to be reality in 09
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Schulz needs to step up big time its now or never Id say its his last chance for sure.
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AFL FOOTBALLERS FROM THE YORKE PENINSULA - Jay Schulz
Yorke Peninsula Country Times
Wednesday, 11 March 2009
In a series of articles, YPCT sportswriter Peter Argent chats to each of the former local junior footballers who are currently on AFL lists and playing at this highest level of our national code. This week he speaks with Richmond big man Jay Schulz.
Image Twenty-three-year-old Jay Schulz (he turns 24 in April) has just completed his seventh AFL pre-season, noting a strategic change in the type of training the Tigers coaching staff is putting the squad through.
“There has been a focus on repeat speed training and power-based exercises,” Schulz explained, talking about the 2009 pre-season.
“They were pretty intense sessions but not as long as in previous years, and then when we did the endurance running the playing group handled it a lot better.
“Interestingly, we didn’t go on a pre-season camp this year.”
Schulz’s pre-season was interrupted slightly with a strained posterior cruciate ligament taking him away from the main training for six weeks, but, pleasingly, he was still able to return to a running program after just a week.
After playing the majority of his career as a key forward, Schulz has been used across the back half from last season and sees most of his football in the defensive area this year.
“The coaching staff believes I read the game reasonably well, and my kicking skills are solid enough to frequently hit targets in front of me,” Schulz said.
“We have a good group working together in defence, but they also suggested I can be thrown forward as a pinch hitter or even relieve Richo (Matthew Richardson) on a wing.”
Schulz, who played 18 games last winter, believes 2008 was his most consistent year, and his football is getting to the stage where the difference between the peaks and troughs are a lot less dramatic.
“These days if I’m not having a big impact, I won’t be completely ineffective,” he said.
“I’m pretty lucky to be still around the club and am glad the Tigers had faith in me.
“Hopefully, I can take another step up in my game this year.”
On Richmond’s ambitions for the 2009 winter, Schulz explained the philosophy at Punt Road is to improve on the previous year. As they finished in ninth position in 2008, he suggested the club would have underachieved if they don’t play finals this year.
His personal ‘09 goals are pretty simple.
“I want to play every game I’m fit and available for, and be perceived as an automatic selection by the coaching staff,” he said.
“As all our group is fighting fit, it will be pretty tough for spots, so I’ll need to perform well week in, week out.”
Since his move into the back line, Schulz paid a compliment to the Tigers’ defensive coach, former Kangaroos premiership defender David King.
“Kingy is a vibrant character who is very black and white about his beliefs and strong with his praise.
“It has been a challenge playing in defence, and I’ve had to learn different skills.
“Kingy has been good, educating me about whether to play inside or outside my opposing forward, depending on whether I’m playing on a big or a small.”
Schulz spent 10 days on Yorke Peninsula over the festive season — pleasingly, because harvest was completed he was able to spend time at the family shack, grabbing a feed of fish and crabs as well as finding heaps of scallops.
Finally, on the Tigers’ recruitment of former West Coast Brownlow medallist Ben Cousins, Schulz has nothing but praise.
“So far he’s been great, slotted into our system very well. While he’s come back on a modified program, he’s as fit as a fiddle.
“He was a champion for the Eagles before things went south and we’re looking for him to have a strong impact, if he reproduces some of that form.”
For Schulz, who achieved his 50 AFL game milestone early last year and now has 67 senior games to his credit, this is another important year.
http://www.ypct.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4648&Itemid=42
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“These days if I’m not having a big impact, I won’t be completely ineffective,” he said.
“I’m pretty lucky to be still around the club and am glad the Tigers had faith in me.
“Hopefully, I can take another step up in my game this year.”
Good to hear. Hopefully the penny has dropped for Sarge. It looks like after the Shepparton game he's been given the FF spot to start the season with Cleve still coming back from injury. Another good game up on the Gold Coast will probably give Sarge the opportunity to seal up the FF spot in the real stuff. He won't have Richo up there anymore to crash into lol.
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Good to hear. Hopefully the penny has dropped for Sarge.
Some might say that we have heard this for years with Jay but like it says in the article he went some way towards that happening in '08.
It's actually a pretty refreshing read as he knows it's consistency that he requires to establish his position in the 22.
Hopefully this is the year that he can because it's pretty apparent that he knows others are closing as said below.
He has to take the opportunity. Now or never for Jay Schulz.
His personal ‘09 goals are pretty simple.
“I want to play every game I’m fit and available for, and be perceived as an automatic selection by the coaching staff,” he said.
“As all our group is fighting fit, it will be pretty tough for spots, so I’ll need to perform well week in, week out.”
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Bump.
Schulz might finally live up to this 2-year old article.
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I'll just add these little things :pray :pray :pray
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I hope he has a great year so we can trade him. Kruezer, Bellchambers, Cotchin, Morton and afew others will be quality players from this years draft.
Ludicrous!
He's 21 and has taken 4 years to start finally showing something yet you want to take a punt on an unknown?
Yep ... an unknown youngster like Cotchin ;D may turn out just fine lol
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If you'd have gotten pick 2 I'd have traded him in a heartbeat.
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I miss Jackstar. :thumbsup
I wonder if he will resurface if we lose to Carlton?
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I miss Jackstar. :thumbsup
I wonder if he will resurface if we lose to Carlton?
I was reading through some old threads a couple of months ago and came across the when will jackstar be back thread. It was so amusing especially when Moi played that trick on him and he harked up about it (and everything else).
I was :ROTFL
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BRING BACK JACKSTAR!
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Tiger Jay Schulz eyes a spot at the zoo
Jackie Epstein | August 16, 2009
RICHMOND forward Jay Schulz is taking a shine to the elephants at Melbourne Zoo.
Through the AFL Sportsready program, Schulz has worked with the giant animals once a week for the past three months. The rare opportunity has helped him cope with a tough season battling injury.
"It's been a bit of a trying year," Schulz said. "With all the stuff that happened in the first half of the year and in the second half of the year, I have bone bruising in my heel.
"This has been a good outlet for me to not think about footy. I've grown up with animals, living on a farm about two hours out of Adelaide. We always had pets -- dogs, cats, chooks, sheep -- so it's always been a big thing for me. It's a very positive thing in what's been a disappointing year for me."
Schulz has managed 71 games for the Tigers and has played the past few games with Richmond's VFL affiliate, Coburg.
Contracted to the club next year, he is looking forward to a change of fortune.
He admitted preparing food and washing elephants left him dirtier than after playing a match.
"My girlfriend knows I smell when I come home," Schulz said.
"Elephants . . . they are pretty placid as long as the trainers are around. They're about as smart as a five-year-old kid, so they can be a bit cheeky."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25933231-2862,00.html
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Tiger Jay Schulz eyes a spot at the zoo
Jackie Epstein | August 16, 2009
RICHMOND forward Jay Schulz is taking a shine to the elephants at Melbourne Zoo.
Through the AFL Sportsready program, Schulz has worked with the giant animals once a week for the past three months. The rare opportunity has helped him cope with a tough season battling injury.
"It's been a bit of a trying year," Schulz said. "With all the stuff that happened in the first half of the year and in the second half of the year, I have bone bruising in my heel.
"This has been a good outlet for me to not think about footy. I've grown up with animals, living on a farm about two hours out of Adelaide. We always had pets -- dogs, cats, chooks, sheep -- so it's always been a big thing for me. It's a very positive thing in what's been a disappointing year for me."
Schulz has managed 71 games for the Tigers and has played the past few games with Richmond's VFL affiliate, Coburg.
Contracted to the club next year, he is looking forward to a change of fortune.
He admitted preparing food and washing elephants left him dirtier than after playing a match.
"My girlfriend knows I smell when I come home," Schulz said.
"Elephants . . . they are pretty placid as long as the trainers are around. They're about as smart as a five-year-old kid, so they can be a bit cheeky."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25933231-2862,00.html
Schulz and football shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence. :banghead
Article is wrong .
Says he has played the past few games at Coburg.
He has played there for most of the year it should read :banghead :banghead
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If he's serious about working at a zoo, he can stay at rfc. Zoo, circus and he's a lead act
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Tiger Jay Schulz eyes a spot at the zoo
Jackie Epstein | August 16, 2009
RICHMOND forward Jay Schulz is taking a shine to the elephants at Melbourne Zoo.
Through the AFL Sportsready program, Schulz has worked with the giant animals once a week for the past three months. The rare opportunity has helped him cope with a tough season battling injury.
"It's been a bit of a trying year," Schulz said. "With all the stuff that happened in the first half of the year and in the second half of the year, I have bone bruising in my heel.
"This has been a good outlet for me to not think about footy. I've grown up with animals, living on a farm about two hours out of Adelaide. We always had pets -- dogs, cats, chooks, sheep -- so it's always been a big thing for me. It's a very positive thing in what's been a disappointing year for me."
Schulz has managed 71 games for the Tigers and has played the past few games with Richmond's VFL affiliate, Coburg.
Contracted to the club next year, he is looking forward to a change of fortune.
He admitted preparing food and washing elephants left him dirtier than after playing a match.
"My girlfriend knows I smell when I come home," Schulz said.
"Elephants . . . they are pretty placid as long as the trainers are around. They're about as smart as a five-year-old kid, so they can be a bit cheeky."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25933231-2862,00.html
Schulz and football shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence. :banghead
Article is wrong .
Says he has played the past few games at Coburg.
He has played there for most of the year it should read :banghead :banghead
hahaha has he played a game in Richmond side this year l aint noticed him seriously ;D
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Tiger Jay Schulz eyes a spot at the zoo
Jackie Epstein | August 16, 2009
RICHMOND forward Jay Schulz is taking a shine to the elephants at Melbourne Zoo.
Through the AFL Sportsready program, Schulz has worked with the giant animals once a week for the past three months. The rare opportunity has helped him cope with a tough season battling injury.
"It's been a bit of a trying year," Schulz said. "With all the stuff that happened in the first half of the year and in the second half of the year, I have bone bruising in my heel.
"This has been a good outlet for me to not think about footy. I've grown up with animals, living on a farm about two hours out of Adelaide. We always had pets -- dogs, cats, chooks, sheep -- so it's always been a big thing for me. It's a very positive thing in what's been a disappointing year for me."
Schulz has managed 71 games for the Tigers and has played the past few games with Richmond's VFL affiliate, Coburg.
Contracted to the club next year, he is looking forward to a change of fortune.
He admitted preparing food and washing elephants left him dirtier than after playing a match.
"My girlfriend knows I smell when I come home," Schulz said.
"Elephants . . . they are pretty placid as long as the trainers are around. They're about as smart as a five-year-old kid, so they can be a bit cheeky."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25933231-2862,00.html
Schulz and football shouldnt be mentioned in the same sentence. :banghead
Article is wrong .
Says he has played the past few games at Coburg.
He has played there for most of the year it should read :banghead :banghead
hahaha has he played a game in Richmond side this year l aint noticed him seriously ;D
you must be blind TM. I saw him on the wing, in fact i saw him everywhere. Didn't you see him?
He was that four n twenty wrapper flying around.
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which wrapper thier was poo flying everywhere yesterday ;D
talking of poo your mate was playing McLovin ;D :chuck
could you image him being a guest on Before the Game on TEN
l reckon that curly hair guy cant think of his name would punch him up ;D
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Ok so I have been thinking about this bloke since Hardwick took over. Last year and from the years since he kicked the big 6 against the Lions at the GABBA this bloke has been moved around the ground (when not injured) from pillar to post.
He has not really had a decent pre-season form mine for quite a while either.
I have been one of his biggest critics for a while now but........ I know he under performed at Coburg but I can't comment much there because I didn't see him. Was he bad in the Coburg side because of him or the way the team played, any stuff would be great.
So to cut a long story short could Hardwick make him an accountable backman, remember Wallace tried.... or did he?????? Should we keep him as he is a mobile tall??
Thoughts?
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Ok so I have been thinking about this bloke since Hardwick took over. Last year and from the years since he kicked the big 6 against the Lions at the GABBA this bloke has been moved around the ground (when not injured) from pillar to post.
He has not really had a decent pre-season form mine for quite a while either.
I have been one of his biggest critics for a while now but........ I know he under performed at Coburg but I can't comment much there because I didn't see him. Was he bad in the Coburg side because of him or the way the team played, any stuff would be great.
So to cut a long story short could Hardwick make him an accountable backman, remember Wallace tried.... or did he?????? Should we keep him as he is a mobile tall??
Thoughts?
Trade him, otherwise, he will play in the Coburg Colors in 2010
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Ok so I have been thinking about this bloke since Hardwick took over. Last year and from the years since he kicked the big 6 against the Lions at the GABBA this bloke has been moved around the ground (when not injured) from pillar to post.
He has not really had a decent pre-season form mine for quite a while either.
I have been one of his biggest critics for a while now but........ I know he under performed at Coburg but I can't comment much there because I didn't see him. Was he bad in the Coburg side because of him or the way the team played, any stuff would be great.
So to cut a long story short could Hardwick make him an accountable backman, remember Wallace tried.... or did he?????? Should we keep him as he is a mobile tall??
Thoughts?
Trade him, otherwise, he will play in the Coburg Colors in 2010
Trade him for what?
A half eaten mars bar and we pay his contract as well?
Just got to ride these contracts out unfortunately.
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Trade him if we can, however given he's contracted for next year we may as well try and see what Hardwick can do
Hopefully he can be involved in getting Mitch Farmer to the club
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Ok so I have been thinking about this bloke since Hardwick took over. Last year and from the years since he kicked the big 6 against the Lions at the GABBA this bloke has been moved around the ground (when not injured) from pillar to post.
He has not really had a decent pre-season form mine for quite a while either.
I have been one of his biggest critics for a while now but........ I know he under performed at Coburg but I can't comment much there because I didn't see him. Was he bad in the Coburg side because of him or the way the team played, any stuff would be great.
So to cut a long story short could Hardwick make him an accountable backman, remember Wallace tried.... or did he?????? Should we keep him as he is a mobile tall??
Thoughts?
Played a couple of very average Coburg games when they were playing terrible footy, but Jay was also playing injured in the 2nd half of the season. Like that article earlier in the thread states. Played some stunners for the Burgers too (Geelong, Werribe). From the games I saw him play at Coburg on TV, he looked okay but starved of chances because the delivery was so poor. Often moved down back when things weren't going Coburg's way.
He played a reasonable season down back and pinch hitting up forward in 08 (despite what some think), maybe Hardwick will keep him and put him back in defense? Guess we'll see what happens with him soon enough
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Ok so I have been thinking about this bloke since Hardwick took over. Last year and from the years since he kicked the big 6 against the Lions at the GABBA this bloke has been moved around the ground (when not injured) from pillar to post.
He has not really had a decent pre-season form mine for quite a while either.
I have been one of his biggest critics for a while now but........ I know he under performed at Coburg but I can't comment much there because I didn't see him. Was he bad in the Coburg side because of him or the way the team played, any stuff would be great.
So to cut a long story short could Hardwick make him an accountable backman, remember Wallace tried.... or did he?????? Should we keep him as he is a mobile tall??
Thoughts?
Played a couple of very average Coburg games when they were playing terrible footy, but Jay was also playing injured in the 2nd half of the season. Like that article earlier in the thread states. Played some stunners for the Burgers too (Geelong, Werribe). From the games I saw him play at Coburg on TV, he looked okay but starved of chances because the delivery was so poor. Often moved down back when things weren't going Coburg's way.
He played a reasonable season down back and pinch hitting up forward in 08 (despite what some think), maybe Hardwick will keep him and put him back in defense? Guess we'll see what happens with him soon enough
Davey we must go to different games because of the 2 games i saw this dud play at Coburg were nothing short of disgraceful, not to mention his appearance at Richmond
Head down refusing to chase or tackle, its been the story of his whole career
This guy is a complete and utter waste of time and should be offloaded to the nearest bidder. Id take anything for him and i mean anything
Play him back, play him forward we have tried everything and with or without Richo in the team, he is a pathetic footballer who cant even excel at VFL level.
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Wrong Daniel, he DOES exceed at VFL level, I think that is what upsets so many people about him.
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Wrong Daniel, he DOES exceed at VFL level, I think that is what upsets so many people about him.
You think so?
Other than 2 or 3 games where he kicked a bag he has done nothing at Coburg you will find especially the last half of the year.
the guy is useless at both levels
The problem with our club is we hold onto hope, that these duds will one day come on. Sadly that day never comes and we are left red faced holding our dicks with no draft picks and a dud footballer who cant get a senior game.
This guy should be wearing Port colours. See Danny Meyer took so long for us to delist him and we got nothing for him in the end.
Schulz, Petrified, Thompson, Patterson, Hughes...The same will apply to all those household names
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If we didn't need KPF's so badly it would be a no brainer. But even so I feel he has the potential to play at AFL but I am fairly sure he won't do so at the RFC.
Trade.
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Wrong Daniel, he DOES exceed at VFL level, I think that is what upsets so many people about him.
You think so?
Other than 2 or 3 games where he kicked a bag he has done nothing at Coburg you will find especially the last half of the year.
the guy is useless at both levels
The problem with our club is we hold onto hope, that these duds will one day come on. Sadly that day never comes and we are left red faced holding our dicks with no draft picks and a dud footballer who cant get a senior game.
This guy should be wearing Port colours. See Danny Meyer took so long for us to delist him and we got nothing for him in the end.
Schulz, Petrified, Thompson, Patterson, Hughes...The same will apply to all those household names
Sorry, but this is utter tripe. I know you have a vendetta against Sarge, but to call him "useless" at VFL is just plain old Bull poo. He played about three very good games for Coburg this season, a few good games, a few serviceable games and a few poor ones. Playing injured in the 2nd half of the season and was still Richmond's highest vote getter in the Liston Medal :banghead That is a fair assessment. It's a bit hard to star for Coburg at FF when the team is rubbish and can't deliver the ball for poo, which is why he was moved down back in quite a few matches.
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At 7 years on an AFL list you should not be making excuses for a player being inj for a few weeks as the reason why he has had a few poor games in the ressies. He should be tearing up the comp now and played close to 100-120 games experience and be part of another teams planning when they play against us. He should be consistent and a go to player in our side. He should have a prescence about him on the field and have an ability to perservere and have an impact week in week out regardless of what the scoreboard is. I think the assessment of him being useless is harsh but apt.
What do you want from him Davey that we have all hoped for from him? This year was career defining for him as it was for our club and both failed abysmally. Time to move him on if we can find a suitable trade and if not as he is contracted for another year leave him at Coburg. At his age players don't improve to a new level at best he might be more consistent at VFL level but out of his depth at AFL level. In my opinion that does not warrant him to be retained on our list because we have a vendetta or bias towards him but because he is lost at this level. Plain and simple.
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At 7 years on an AFL list you should not be making excuses for a player being inj for a few weeks as the reason why he has had a few poor games in the ressies. He shoiuld be tearing up the comp now and played close to 100-120 games experience and be part of another teams planning when they play against us. He should be consistent and a go to player in our side. He should have a prescence about him on the field and have an ability to perservere and have an impact week in week out regardless of what the scoreboard is. I think the assessment of him being useless is harsh but apt.
What do you want from him Davey that we have all hoped for from him? This year was career defining for him as it was for our club and both failed abysmally. Time to move him on if we can find a suitable trade and if not as he is contracted for another year leave him at Coburg. At his age players don't improve to a new level at best he might be more consistent at VFL level but out of his depth at AFL level. In my opinion that does not warrant him to be retained on our list because we have a vendetta or bias towards him but because he is lost at this level. Plain and simple.
Fantastic post.
:thumbsup
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At 7 years on an AFL list you should not be making excuses for a player being inj for a few weeks as the reason why he has had a few poor games in the ressies. He should be tearing up the comp now and played close to 100-120 games experience and be part of another teams planning when they play against us. He should be consistent and a go to player in our side. He should have a prescence about him on the field and have an ability to perservere and have an impact week in week out regardless of what the scoreboard is. I think the assessment of him being useless is harsh but apt.
What do you want from him Davey that we have all hoped for from him? This year was career defining for him as it was for our club and both failed abysmally. Time to move him on if we can find a suitable trade and if not as he is contracted for another year leave him at Coburg. At his age players don't improve to a new level at best he might be more consistent at VFL level but out of his depth at AFL level. In my opinion that does not warrant him to be retained on our list because we have a vendetta or bias towards him but because he is lost at this level. Plain and simple.
Reasonable assessment there Tucker.
What I would say though is if we cannot trade him (and with BHall going to the Dogs there's one option gone) we wil have to keep him and I would think that Hardwick will give him one last chance at senior level to see if he (Hardwick) can get anything out of him performance wise.
If we again get nothing we don't actually lose anything because we have got much to start with.
But if my some miracle Jay actually shows something and turns his career around under Dimma then we can hail Dimma as a genius
Do I think it will happen? Not really because I have been waiting for 7 long years and have been disappointed too many times but if it does then it is a win for us
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At 7 years on an AFL list you should not be making excuses for a player being inj for a few weeks as the reason why he has had a few poor games in the ressies. He should be tearing up the comp now and played close to 100-120 games experience and be part of another teams planning when they play against us. He should be consistent and a go to player in our side. He should have a prescence about him on the field and have an ability to perservere and have an impact week in week out regardless of what the scoreboard is. I think the assessment of him being useless is harsh but apt.
What do you want from him Davey that we have all hoped for from him? This year was career defining for him as it was for our club and both failed abysmally. Time to move him on if we can find a suitable trade and if not as he is contracted for another year leave him at Coburg. At his age players don't improve to a new level at best he might be more consistent at VFL level but out of his depth at AFL level. In my opinion that does not warrant him to be retained on our list because we have a vendetta or bias towards him but because he is lost at this level. Plain and simple.
I find it funny that I'm now making 'excuses'. Gee, you can't say a thing in a maligned players defense on this site ;D. What I said was fact, he played the entire 2nd half of the season on a dodgy foot. That's not me saying we should keep him because of that - that is me sticking up for him when a poster said he was 'useless' at VFL level. I'd like to see some of the keyboard heroes on here have a crack at playing injured as a key forward for Coburg when they're playing terrible, terrible footy. Whether or not he's here next season, I don't know. But everyone should accept the decision that's made on him. If that's him staying, okay, if it's him going then that is fine too.
Who wants another year of nothing but personal bashing of certain players....
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Give you all a word of advice,
Just gid rid of him
The guy has no idea.
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At 7 years on an AFL list you should not be making excuses for a player being inj for a few weeks as the reason why he has had a few poor games in the ressies. He should be tearing up the comp now and played close to 100-120 games experience and be part of another teams planning when they play against us. He should be consistent and a go to player in our side. He should have a prescence about him on the field and have an ability to perservere and have an impact week in week out regardless of what the scoreboard is. I think the assessment of him being useless is harsh but apt.
What do you want from him Davey that we have all hoped for from him? This year was career defining for him as it was for our club and both failed abysmally. Time to move him on if we can find a suitable trade and if not as he is contracted for another year leave him at Coburg. At his age players don't improve to a new level at best he might be more consistent at VFL level but out of his depth at AFL level. In my opinion that does not warrant him to be retained on our list because we have a vendetta or bias towards him but because he is lost at this level. Plain and simple.
I find it funny that I'm now making 'excuses'. Gee, you can't say a thing in a maligned players defense on this site ;D. What I said was fact, he played the entire 2nd half of the season on a dodgy foot. That's not me saying we should keep him because of that - that is me sticking up for him when a poster said he was 'useless' at VFL level. I'd like to see some of the keyboard heroes on here have a crack at playing injured as a key forward for Coburg when they're playing terrible, terrible footy. Whether or not he's here next season, I don't know. But everyone should accept the decision that's made on him. If that's him staying, okay, if it's him going then that is fine too.
Who wants another year of nothing but personal bashing of certain players....
got nothing to do with a keyboard pal its got everything to do with the fact he CANNOT PLAY.
You talk about playing injured as being one of the reasons he wasn't so effective in the last half of the year.
well you tell that to Nick Reiwvoldt who has had a dodgy knee all year or pants millane who played with a broken hand in the GF. Richo Broken cheek bone.
It never stops them from showing class every time they cross the white line.
If what you say is true, which i severely doubt then why would the RFC risk him getting injured further playing for Coburg.
Mate you need to come up with something better than that.
Its called playing for your jumper pal and this guy doesnt deserve one cent of his pay packet. He has delivered us 6 years of absolute garbage
Schulz is a hack of the highest order and his only claim to fame being a 6 goal haul which gets a mention every now and then when people run out of excuses for him.
we would best run out with 21 players next year because having Schulz there would further give off a bad example to the youngsters and further spread the cancer that he amongst others helped spread.
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I'll be the first to admit I hold out hope for 'SOME' of our players for way too long.
7 years says it all really .... Toddles (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt005.gif)
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I'll be the first to admit I hold out hope for 'SOME' of our players for way too long.
7 years says it all really .... Toddles (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-taunt005.gif)
Jay is one of the all time laziest footballers that I have ever seen play the game.
He was always a player that I used to watch when away from the play - such a soft runner.
His 2nd efforts made Anthony Rocca look like Rob Harvey.
He was suited down back because he could sit there and wait for it to come to him or just peel off as the spare man and pick up cheap kicks.
Really poorly coached, allowed to get away with blue murder. Pathetic really.
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At 7 years on an AFL list you should not be making excuses for a player being inj for a few weeks as the reason why he has had a few poor games in the ressies. He should be tearing up the comp now and played close to 100-120 games experience and be part of another teams planning when they play against us. He should be consistent and a go to player in our side. He should have a prescence about him on the field and have an ability to perservere and have an impact week in week out regardless of what the scoreboard is. I think the assessment of him being useless is harsh but apt.
What do you want from him Davey that we have all hoped for from him? This year was career defining for him as it was for our club and both failed abysmally. Time to move him on if we can find a suitable trade and if not as he is contracted for another year leave him at Coburg. At his age players don't improve to a new level at best he might be more consistent at VFL level but out of his depth at AFL level. In my opinion that does not warrant him to be retained on our list because we have a vendetta or bias towards him but because he is lost at this level. Plain and simple.
I find it funny that I'm now making 'excuses'. Gee, you can't say a thing in a maligned players defense on this site ;D. What I said was fact, he played the entire 2nd half of the season on a dodgy foot. That's not me saying we should keep him because of that - that is me sticking up for him when a poster said he was 'useless' at VFL level. I'd like to see some of the keyboard heroes on here have a crack at playing injured as a key forward for Coburg when they're playing terrible, terrible footy. Whether or not he's here next season, I don't know. But everyone should accept the decision that's made on him. If that's him staying, okay, if it's him going then that is fine too.
Who wants another year of nothing but personal bashing of certain players....
got nothing to do with a keyboard pal its got everything to do with the fact he CANNOT PLAY.
You talk about playing injured as being one of the reasons he wasn't so effective in the last half of the year.
well you tell that to Nick Reiwvoldt who has had a dodgy knee all year or pants millane who played with a broken hand in the GF. Richo Broken cheek bone.
It never stops them from showing class every time they cross the white line.
If what you say is true, which i severely doubt then why would the RFC risk him getting injured further playing for Coburg.
Mate you need to come up with something better than that.
Its called playing for your jumper pal and this guy doesnt deserve one cent of his pay packet. He has delivered us 6 years of absolute garbage
Schulz is a hack of the highest order and his only claim to fame being a 6 goal haul which gets a mention every now and then when people run out of excuses for him.
we would best run out with 21 players next year because having Schulz there would further give off a bad example to the youngsters and further spread the cancer that he amongst others helped spread.
Haha. Why do you doubt what I said is true? Read the article earlier in the thread where he states he has bruised bone in his heel, and ask anyone who's gone to Coburg games if they think he's looked underdone. That's what I've said in his defense, and that's all I care to say about him at the moment. As for 'why would Richmond risk injury to him' - Well, it wouldn't be the first time we've had a cock up in the medical department. You can bag Schulz all you like, I couldn't give two sh!tes to be honest. I've said my bit about him, and haven't said anything about him being a good player or something along those lines. Save the Sarge bashing for someone who cares :thumbsup :)
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should be shipped off, has no currency now so we are lumped. :banghead
injury or no injury has he ever given 100% on the field in his many cameo's :rollin