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Football => View from the Outer => Topic started by: one-eyed on February 13, 2007, 03:16:15 AM
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Should the AFL copy other sports and put player names on the back of guernseys?
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21215646%255E19742,00.html
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NO!!!!!!!!!!
NOPE
And in case you missed it..
No thank-you :thumbsup
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:gobdrop
NO!
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what they said ^
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A BIG NO
NO
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JON will need to get into the gym and broaden his shoulders to fit his name on ;D.
I'll be in the lone :-\ minority and say I'm not against the idea. It might bring in a couple of dollars in merchandise sales having DELEDIO or BROWN on the back of jumpers.
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I'm a bit undecided at the moment. I wouldn't mind for the fact that I'd be more likey to buy another Richmond guernsey with RAINES on the back etc ;D
However, I'd feel like that would be Americanising our game, which I'm opposed too :lol
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Even better, add there nicknames. I am only kidding!
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Maybe that should just stay in the locker room :lol
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Maybe that should just stay in the locker room :lol
I thought they were 'change' rooms.
Locker room is an Americanism..... :lol
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Lol, I've always called them locker rooms, even in school they did :-\
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NO!!!!!!! Any half loyal supporter will know the players either by face or by number (julz by biceps pecs and buns ;)). No need to add more crap on the Jumper. I think the americans did it because they wear helmets in gridiron. :stupid
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NO ... AFL should get rid of the "AFL" Logo off the numbers too ... looks weird!
:-[
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NO ... AFL should get rid of the "AFL" Logo off the numbers too ... looks weird!
:-[
Number logo's are an idea taken from the English Premier League as an IP branding exercise.
Trying to read players names would be a nightmare with the combination of available jumper space and the pace of today's game. Ridiculous idea.
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Imagine, Koutafidties or however the heck you spell it on the back :lol
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Yep.
It exists in most sports and would give kids and adults a greater sentimental attachment to their favourite player if they owned a jumper with the players name on it. Great revenue for the clubs also.
Victorian clubs complain about money and the lack of it, and say they can't compete with interstate teams. But when an idea with a possibility of increasing revenue arises, they, and it's supporters, play the "tradition" card and refuse it. A Westcoast or an Adelaide would jump at the suggestion and wouldn't look back.
It's no big deal really - Clash jumpers, away jumpers, names on backs.
There is enough room on the back for the names - Basketball tops have no sleeves and the names fit easily and are readable. Would just need to push the numbers a bit lower for AFL.
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NO!!!!!!! Any half loyal supporter will know the players either by face or by number (julz by biceps pecs and buns ;)).
LOL :lol :rollin
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The Bombers are selling guernseys with player's name and number on them for $15 extra. We should offer the same thing.
(http://essendonfc.com.au/images/shop2003/920.jpg)
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no !
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Bump.
Cashing in on names worth a guernsey
Jon Pierik
The Age
January 18, 2013
IT MAY seem like a trivial issue in the face of big-ticket items on the AFL agenda, but the concept of having a player's surname on the back of his match-day guernsey must be explored.
Indeed, it would appear to be a win-win for all parties.
For the spectator on match day, particularly those of the less-fanatical leaning, names would quickly and clearly identify who is on the field.
It would also help the television viewer, and perhaps commentator, as do the named jumpers in the world's premier soccer leagues and America's NFL and NBA. Australia's one-day international and Twenty20 teams have also adopted this lead.
For the AFL, clubs, players and their managers, it looms as a commercial success, as supporters may be more tempted to buy the guernseys and T-shirts of their favourite players.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/cashing-in-on-names-worth-a-guernsey-20130117-2cw64.html#ixzz2IG5Cwz6i
TWO of the game's most enduring figures say it's time tradition made way for common sense.
The AFL remains one of the few sports in the world where players' names are not featured on the backs of guernseys, and North Melbourne champion Brent Harvey and Greater Western Sydney coach Kevin Sheedy want that to change.
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/names-on-jumpers-a-nobrainer-20130117-2cw65.html#ixzz2IG63MADb
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Yeah, like id rather see a sponsors name ::)...why not
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Still a NO from me
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Honestly couldn't care less, what do the children want? :rollin
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Rather the names and address,s of the Umpires on their backs. :lol
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:lol
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Any true supporter worth his salt will know who a player is at the very least by his number. Names are for Part-Time Bandwagoners.
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Would look stupid
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Corporate attempt by the AFL board to invite the clueless element of society into their family.
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:lol
or for kids looking for a club to support.
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Any true supporter worth his salt will know who a player is at the very least by his number. Names are for Part-Time Bandwagoners.
This is correct. Just like on OER I have disabled usernames and recognise everyone purely via avatar :cheers
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NO!
leave tradition alone!!!
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Fortunate Dipierdomenico is no longer playing
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Fortunate Dipierdomenico is no longer playing
The abreviation is "cheese di ck" I'm sure that would've fir on the back of his jumper
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Fortunate Dipierdomenico is no longer playing
Still a knob though
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Still a NO from me
i second that no no no
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NO!
leave tradition alone!!!
The irony
When does a tradition become a tradition again ;D ;D :police: :police:
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Give us a reason why they shouldn't put names on the back? Honestly, WGAF? Wouldn't bother me at all. The kids would love running around with names on their back
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Fortunate Dipierdomenico is no longer playing
Still a knob though
I take you met him at the charcoal chicken in Thornbury too? So what happened between the two of you after you bent over to pick up the change you dropped?
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Fortunate Dipierdomenico is no longer playing
Still a knob though
I take you met him at the charcoal chicken in Thornbury too? So what happened between the two of you after you bent over to pick up the change you dropped?
Dipper doesn't do charcoal chicken. He's more of a maccas guy. Nothing happened I just don't like him and think he's a racist tosser.
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AFL is considering putting player names on jumpers
By Peter Ryan
afl.com.au
Friday, July 5, 2013
PUTTING names on the backs of players' jumpers is closer to becoming reality with the AFL admitting there is a push within the competition for it to happen.
The idea, common in professional sport, was raised seriously for the first time for a number of years in recent meetings involving AFL officials and there was significant support for the idea.
Many believe the recent introduction of two new teams into the competition has made the change necessary.
Deputy CEO Gillon McLachlan told AFL.com.au there was growing momentum for names to appear on jumpers.
"There are a number of people that think, especially in the context of a couple of new teams, that now is the time," McLachlan said.
He said although there were still varying views on the issue and there was no discussion around when such a change, if it were to be introduced, would happen, the possibility was certainly being discussed.
"It is getting a bit of momentum," McLachlan said.
Greater Western Sydney coach Kevin Sheedy is believed to have pushed for it to be introduced last season as the new team entered the competition.
However the traditionalists prevailed.
Sheedy managed to have Greater Western Sydney players' names on the back of their jumpers during their first NAB Cup game in 2011.
He told AFL.com.au that a change would help their efforts to have people in Sydney recognise and identify with the Giants' emerging superstars.
"I'm in the marketplace of explaining who we are so if people want to get to know Jeremy Cameron, people want to know [Stephen] Coniglio…we've got to try to make superstars in Sydney," Sheedy said.
"Don't run around with blank sheets of paper on their back. Don't run around with a whiteboard with nothing on it."
Gold Coast CEO Travis Auld admitted it was less of a priority for the Suns now than it may have been in its first year as its fans recognised its players now, but he still thought it was a good idea.
"We certainly wouldn't oppose it," Auld said.
Names have been displayed on the back of guernseys worn in the international rules series against Ireland.
Numbers were introduced into the game for the first time during the 1911 finals series, with the second semi-final between Carlton and Essendon being the first game played where players from both teams wore numbers.
Before 1911 only touring teams had worn numbers to help spectators to identify players and promoters spruik the game.
Initially the numbers worn were considered too small but they changed in the off-season and became standard in 1912 with their introduction central to the beginning of the Footy Record.
With the longest surname in the competition veteran (Lewis) Roberts-Thomson may become the test case for what is practical when it comes to putting names on jumpers, or maybe the league will just settle for LRT.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-05/guernsey-name-game-is-on
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The back of our jumper already looks too crowded with bingle, the number, the number outline and the sash all on it.
Add the names and it'll look stupid.
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(http://resources3.news.com.au/images/2009/11/09/1225795/572395-kevin-sheedy.jpg)
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AFL is considering putting player names on jumpers
Fantastic to see headquarters dealing with the really big issues ::)
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No.
But if they do decide to do it we should adopt the Brazilian soccer team model of naming players.
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AFL is considering putting player names on jumpers
Fantastic to see headquarters dealing with the really big issues ::)
Made me laugh. :lol :lol
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No.
But if they do decide to do it we should adopt the Brazilian soccer team model of naming players.
What's that
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No.
But if they do decide to do it we should adopt the Brazilian soccer team model of naming players.
Have their first names on the back?
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It's not 'stuffing basketball!!!!
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Dont like, and not needed in our game
I dont understand why we need to "americanise" our sports, seriously we have a good game let it evolve naturally and stop tampering with it.
The rate in which its currently be molested, we wont recognise it in 10 years.
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No.
But if they do decide to do it we should adopt the Brazilian soccer team model of naming players.
Have their first names on the back?
Cotch will be Cotchinho
Lids will be Deledinho
Dusty we just call Dustinho
Conca- Concinho
Ellis-Brandinho
Grigginho
Vlaustin- Hollandinho
McBean- Fasolathinho
White- Asprinho
Jackson - Iacovinho
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Any true supporter worth his salt will know who a player is at the very least by his number. Names are for Part-Time Bandwagoners.
As a part time Bandwagoner I for one would love the names on the jumpers, whenever there is a new kids from the 2's in the seniors I have no clue who they are.
As Jeans said Footballers are like sausages and they are just as hard to tell apart when your new to the game. Anything that makes it easier for the spectators is a good thing.
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Dont like, and not needed in our game
I dont understand why we need to "americanise" our sports, seriously we have a good game let it evolve naturally and stop tampering with it.
The rate in which its currently be molested, we wont recognise it in 10 years.
Cmon we took the draft, the equalisation, the expanded bench and the salary cap from US sports and as a result AFL has been killing NRL, mugby and soccer. As a game we adopt what works, 100 odd rule changes in 100 years says it all, but it has and always will be an Aussie sport tailored to Aussies because we dont have the world wide audience that soccer has to deal with, where you end up with the suckiest rules decided by committee.
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No.
But if they do decide to do it we should adopt the Brazilian soccer team model of naming players.
Have their first names on the back?
Cotch will be Cotchinho
Lids will be Deledinho
Dusty we just call Dustinho
Conca- Concinho
Ellis-Brandinho
Grigginho
Vlaustin- Hollandinho
McBean- Fasolathinho
White- Asprinho
Jackson - Iacovinho
:clapping :clapping
That's the spirit.
...And Reiwoldt will be "Fred".
:lol
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No.
But if they do decide to do it we should adopt the Brazilian soccer team model of naming players.
Have their first names on the back?
Cotch will be Cotchinho
Lids will be Deledinho
Dusty we just call Dustinho
Conca- Concinho
Ellis-Brandinho
Grigginho
Vlaustin- Hollandinho
McBean- Fasolathinho
White- Asprinho
Jackson - Iacovinho
:clapping :clapping
That's the spirit.
...And Reiwoldt will be "Fred".
:lol
Riewoldt is definentely Zico :thumbsup
Titch is Tichinho
Royce Hart was definentely Pele. :thumbsup
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Demetriou backs names on jumpers
By Peter Ryan
afl.com.au
Sunday, July 28, 2013
THE IDEA of players wearing names on the back of their jumpers has the support of AFL CEO Andrew Demetriou.
But he has not yet being able to convince his colleagues on the AFL executive of the merits of making the change.
Demetriou told ABC Radio that he thought there was a legitimate argument for names being placed on the back of jumpers, particularly when the AFL was trying to grow the game in NSW and Queensland.
"I'm not as opposed to it so it will probably get a run again," Demetriou said. "I'm actually enthusiastic about it but I keep getting the arguments against it, which I don't buy."
AFL.com.au reported in early July that the issue had been discussed at executive level recently and deputy CEO Gillon McLachlan said the idea was gaining momentum.
Greater Western Sydney coach Kevin Sheedy has pushed for players to wear names on the back of jumpers.
Sheedy told AFL.com.au at the time that displaying names would help him in the business of trying to make superstars in Sydney.
"Don't run around with blank sheets of paper on their back. Don't run around with a whiteboard with nothing on it," Sheedy said.
Many professional sports throughout the world have uniforms that display players' names.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-28/chief-backs-jumper-names
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No.
But if they do decide to do it we should adopt the Brazilian soccer team model of naming players.
Have their first names on the back?
Cotch will be Cotchinho
Lids will be Deledinho
Dusty we just call Dustinho
Conca- Concinho
Ellis-Brandinho
Grigginho
Vlaustin- Hollandinho
McBean- Fasolathinho
White- Asprinho
Jackson - Iacovinho
I like it.
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Demetriou backs names on jumpers
By Peter Ryan
afl.com.au
Sunday, July 28, 2013
THE IDEA of players wearing names on the back of their jumpers has the support of AFL CEO Andrew Demetriou.
But he has not yet being able to convince his colleagues on the AFL executive of the merits of making the change.
Demetriou told ABC Radio that he thought there was a legitimate argument for names being placed on the back of jumpers, particularly when the AFL was trying to grow the game in NSW and Queensland.
"I'm not as opposed to it so it will probably get a run again," Demetriou said. "I'm actually enthusiastic about it but I keep getting the arguments against it, which I don't buy."
AFL.com.au reported in early July that the issue had been discussed at executive level recently and deputy CEO Gillon McLachlan said the idea was gaining momentum.
Greater Western Sydney coach Kevin Sheedy has pushed for players to wear names on the back of jumpers.
Sheedy told AFL.com.au at the time that displaying names would help him in the business of trying to make superstars in Sydney.
"Don't run around with blank sheets of paper on their back. Don't run around with a whiteboard with nothing on it," Sheedy said.
Many professional sports throughout the world have uniforms that display players' names.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-07-28/chief-backs-jumper-names
A slight distraction from footy's real issues. Gotta love the timing.
How about phone numbers under the names as well. :thumbsup
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The topic has come up again today due to Harry McKay's tweet.
SHOULD THE AFL REVISIT NAMES ON PLAYER GUERNSEYS?
By Nic Negrepontis
SEN
11 January 2022
Is it time for the AFL to commit to names on the back of guernseys?
While obviously low on the league’s priority list, it has been put back on the agenda by Carlton spearhead Harry McKay, who put the idea out there on Twitter.
“Surely names on the back of jumpers has to be revisited in AFL and AFLW?” the tweet read.
“Just about only team sport in world that doesn’t do it, even Test cricket does it now. No brainer to help grow the game.”
McKay’s tweet was in reference to Sunday’s AFLW clash between Carlton and Collingwood and given the league is still young and growing, it could be particularly beneficial for it from a name recognition standpoint.
The AFL trialled surnames on the back of guernseys back in 2014, but opted against making it permanent at the time due to practical limitations.
"The round five trial demonstrated that the unique cut of AFL guernseys restricts the size of lettering that can be used and this in turn limits the legibility of the player names for fans at the ground, and to a lesser extent, for those watching on television or via other media channels," an AFL spokesperson said at the time.
"To varying degrees depending on the club, there is only limited space available on the back of match day guernseys for suitably sized names due to player numbers, club acronyms and sponsor logos.”
The AFL’s half-hearted attempt at it in 2014 never closed the door on the concept however and former Adelaide forward Josh Jenkins agrees that it is time to revisit the concept.
“I don’t think it desperately has to happen, but we do look around the world and we see names on the back of guernseys and jumpers and whatever players wear,” Jenkins told SEN Breakfast.
“I actually don’t like the look of the big clunky numbers and names in the Test matches, I think that looks a little bit silly.
“Now (in the AFL) we’ve got a sponsor sitting in the spot where a name would be.
“I think it would certainly sell more jumpers. I can’t see why we shouldn’t have names on the back of jumpers just as the reigning Coleman Medallist says.”
SEN Chief Reporter Sam Edmund agreed, believing it would be an easy win for the league, while also not tampering with the traditions of the code too much.
“I can’t see how it wouldn’t be a hit either. I think it’s one of those things that would only help the game,” Edmund said.
“I don’t see it as a crushing blow to the traditional elements of the game. This is no day Grand Final debate, this is just a printed name on the back of a jumper.
“I think it would be a welcome edition to the game and help grow it with the younger generation of fans who can relate more to their player.
“I think especially now that cricket has jumped that hurdle.”
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2022/01/11/should-the-afl-revisit-names-on-player-guernseys/
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Not sure if Harry and Sam Edmond are up on current events but where do they intend to put the names exactly?
Sponsor logos are below and above the numbers these days. Due to COVID the AFL have allowed the space above the number to "sold" for sponsorship $$$. Clubs need the $$$
Remember also that Clubs like ours are going to be receiving less in dividends form HQ going forward because we are financially strong. So those $$$ are even more important now
But that aside which one do Sam and Harry reckon should be fiven the flick?
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Not sure if Harry and Sam Edmond are up on current events but where do they intend to put the names exactly?
Sponsor logos are below and above the numbers these days. Due to COVID the AFL have allowed the space above the number to "sold" for sponsorship $$$. Clubs need the $$$
Remember also that Clubs like ours are going to be receiving less in dividends form HQ going forward because we are financially strong. So those $$$ are even more important now
But that aside which one do Sam and Harry reckon should be given the flick?
Is making the number a bit smaller an option? Then you could put the name just above the number.
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Me thinks a few AFL players are thinking only of their wallet .... :thumbsdown
The players come & go, but the numbers live on ... as always ...
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I liked it when they trialled it.
Maybe they could do state of origin annually or bi-annually and add names