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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 05, 2007, 06:05:09 PM
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The bookies have written us off this week
Richmond $3.00
Sydney $1.35
Richmond Under 39.5 Pts 3.75
Richmond Over 39.5 Pts 13.00
Sydney Under 39.5 Pts 2.15
Sydney Over 39.5 Pts 3.00
Draw 51.00
http://www.tab.com.au/Sports/Betting/PlaceFixedOddsBet.aspx?State=1&ContestDate=2007-04-07T00:00:00&Competition=102&BetOption=FAFR2RCSYHH&ContestCode=20599&LocationCode=0&MeetingType=1
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i just put a small 20 on this one, not a big bet, so if we lose i wont cry.
put 20 on the tigers to win b/w 1-39pts paying 3.85
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i just put a small 20 on this one, not a big bet, so if we lose i wont cry.
put 20 on the tigers to win b/w 1-39pts paying 3.85
Im stupid enough to put a 20 on over 39pts X...like you say wont cry if we lost or won under 39 but man id sling u a nice red if we won over 39!
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i just put a small 20 on this one, not a big bet, so if we lose i wont cry.
put 20 on the tigers to win b/w 1-39pts paying 3.85
Im stupid enough to put a 20 on over 39pts X...like you say wont cry if we lost or won under 39 but man id sling u a nice red if we won over 39!
ur on! and if i win, i will do the same :thumbsup
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I'll be happy even if we win by just one point. Got a good feeling about Saturday. We'll be better for run last week :gotigers.
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Im stupid enough to put a 20 on over 39pts X...
Tigertailz I've got a bridge for sale if you're interested..
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Another bloody opposition player's milestone game. Brett Kirk is playing his 150th.
All the journos in the Age and Herald-Sun went for the Swans. All 33 of them.
At least Paul Gough went with his heart in his sportal preview :thumbsup
WE THINK: This is a danger game for the Swans. Paul Roos' team has a history of starting seasons slowly and the Tigers' effort last week wasn't that bad. The ruck is the Tigers' biggest worry but they did beat Sydney the last time they met at the MCG two years ago. Richmond by three points.
http://www.sportal.com.au/football.asp?i=news&id=96723
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I'll be happy even if we win by just one point. Got a good feeling about Saturday. We'll be better for run last week :gotigers.
Tezza is that you :rollin
;D
:cheers
:gotigers
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I'll be happy even if we win by just one point. Got a good feeling about Saturday. We'll be better for run last week :gotigers.
Tezza is that you :rollin
;D
:cheers
:gotigers
LOL.
I return Jack's messages :shh :whistle
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what is the score ???
lol
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i just put a small 20 on this one, not a big bet, so if we lose i wont cry.
put 20 on the tigers to win b/w 1-39pts paying 3.85
Im stupid enough to put a 20 on over 39pts X...like you say wont cry if we lost or won under 39 but man id sling u a nice red if we won over 39!
ur on! and if i win, i will do the same :thumbsup
lol! Ok Done X!GOOOOOOOOO TIGES!
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go tigers !
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Forward Scout: Richmond v Sydney Swans
richmondfc.com.au
April 6, 2007
Assistant coach David King and utility Jay Schulz take a look at Richmond’s round two opponent: the Sydney Swans. David King kicks off with his assessment of the two sides:
Our backs: There are plenty of challenges there for us. Barry Hall poses a few dilemmas. Do you use a completely negating player like Darren Gaspar, or someone like Joel Bowden who can win some possession and certainly hurt the other way? Or do you try one of the kids on him like Luke McGuane?
Their forwards: They have got some real key players up forward. Adam Schneider will come back in and certainly play a fair bit of time on the half-forward stuff. Then there is Michael O'Loughlin, Amon Buchanan and Ryan O’Keefe who’s improved enormously over the last 18 months.
Midfield battle: They love playing stoppage football. It’s a real strength for the Swans and we are aware of that. Fortunately it is a good area for us too, so we like to think it will be a good hard battle in there. They have got some real tough nuts in Brett Kirk and Jude Bolton who have been given good support by Peter Everitt and Darren Jolly in the rucks.
The ruck duel: It’s a real challenge for us to get through another week without Troy Simmonds in the ruck. Obviously Trent Knoble won’t be there so the younger kids will need to take the opportunity.
Our forwards: The forward line worked pretty well last week, the times we got it in. We only went inside 50 forty-odd times last week, so to kick 15 goals was a great result for us. Obviously we just need to get some more supply in there to give them a chance. That is one of the strengths of the Swans – they really shut you down in defence.
Their backs: When you look at the names individually they do not probably read as a star-studded back six, but as a unit they are certainly very strong and capable and possibly one of the top two or three defences in the comp.”
LESSONS FROM LAST WEEK
Jay Schulz: Knowing when to play our three phases. Knowing when to use our ‘surge ball’, our ‘slow play’ or our ‘flow footy’ is the major thing at the moment.
PLAYER WATCH
Jay Schulz: If Ryan O’Keefe has a bad patch and then really turns it on, he is a real focal point for them up forward. Obviously Adam Goodes is a fantastic player and can switch on if he is struggling, so you can never let him go. I also think Amon Buchanan goes under the radar a fair bit. He is an extremely good player.
FINAL THOUGHTS
David King: We played some good footy last week. Basically if we can do that across all four quarters this week we’d be looking for a positive result at the end of the game.
Jay Schulz: Generally we go pretty well against Sydney. The main thing you need to do is beat them at their own game. They like a lot of ball ups and the ball in close. But if you can beat them through clearances it goes a long way to winning the game. Once you have won those clearances and if you can run and spread and get the game going on a ‘flow’ basis you go a long way to beating them.
A FEW STATS
Richmond v Sydney –2006
RD 7: Sydney by 118 points
RD 16: Sydney by 48 points
Richmond Win Percentage
Against Sydney: 60.34%
@ MCG: 55.53%
A FINAL NOTE The last game between Richmond and Sydney at the MCG occurred in the Swans’ premiership year of 2005. The result? The Tigers, by one point.
http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=40757
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ladies and gents
we will win
had a preminition last night, a dream!
we come back from behind in the last quarter to win
polo bog 4 goals!!!
:thumbsup :thumbsup
first time in 6 months that i have not dreamed about julz :thumbsup or jennifer hawkins :lol
go tigers!
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first time in 6 months that i have not dreamed about julz :thumbsup or jennifer hawkins :lol
go tigers!
I'm sure Julz will rapt about that :rollin
Yr a crazy man, X :thumbsup
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Richmond in with a chance at half time.
Sydney 6.6.42
Richmond 5.2.32
Tivendale, Richo, Lids and the Bowdens in the bests so far
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Oh to be mentioned in the same breath as Jennifer Hawkins.
Half time - 10 points down.
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4 points down at 3/4 time
Richo starting to fire up :thumbsup
Lids has his tail up. Close to BOG for us
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CCCCCCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!
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Richmond in front :gotigers
Schulz just taken a mark but hooked ot :banghead
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We lost, but it was a great game.
Lids was very very classy, probably his best game to date. Ran hard all day, got plenty of the footy, and used it very well. Hopefully he continues on with the form he has found.
Tambo was excellent in patches. Needs to exert more influence on the game though.
Richo worked hard. Bowdens were solid, Sugar played a reasonable game without standing out.
Thought McGuane and Patto showed a bit.
Not dissapointed by the loss, now looking forward to giving Collingwood a pasting :thumbsup
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due to easter commitments unable to go to the game today but watched on foxtel1. I have to be fair last week I sledged the side but this week they played well. We werent good enough in the last 10 minutes thats all. I thought Deledio was excellent, Tambling showed why he can be a player- now the thing is can we get him to get the footy 20 times a game, I thought Polak was very also. McGuane shows abit and is better than what I thought. Overall it was a good team effort- pretty even performance from most of the team. We lost, but no one can or should complain today- we were very honest in our performance right to the end. I often dont criticise umpires but today I thought we got the rough end of the stick.
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due to easter commitments unable to go to the game today but watched on foxtel1. I have to be fair last week I sledged the side but this week they played well. We werent good enough in the last 10 minutes thats all. I thought Deledio was excellent, Tambling showed why he can be a player- now the thing is can we get him to get the footy 20 times a game, I thought Polak was very also. McGuane shows abit and is better than what I thought. Overall it was a good team effort- pretty even performance from most of the team. We lost, but no one can or should complain today- we were very honest in our performance right to the end. I often dont criticise umpires but today I thought we got the rough end of the stick.
Agreed, Lids played a super game and in time will make any Murphy/Gibbs/Griffen and etc vs Deledio thread just completely irrelevant. Tambo was fantastic in flashes. Probably played about 5 or so minutes of real classy football, but went missing for the majority of the game. Once he starts producing over the majority of a game he will become an absolut gun. :thumbsup
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Watched the game on FTA and whilst we didn't win, I too thought we played well and improved on last weeks performance. The best thing was even though we were well and truly out rucked, we won the clearances against one of the best clearance sides in the game. Lids really stepped up and gave us some excellent drive. It was also great to see that when it looked like the swans were going to blitz us, we clawed our way back each time. We did get slaughtered by the umps, especially our forwards, but the Swans experience showed in the last 15 minutes when the game was there to be won by both sides.
We'll learn from this and on that showing I'm confident well improve further next week.
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Agree with everyone's comments. Disappointed that we couldn't get across the line when we hit the front but at least the team had a crack and kept fighting when the Swans could have blown the game out of the water. We just did some dumb decision making in the first and last quarters both rebounding outside 50 and going inside our forward 50 which the Swans with their class and experience made us pay for. They just had greater composure when the game had to won. Hopefully for us that will come as the young blokes get more games under their belt.
Gas had his best game in years. Gave Hall a bath and his disposal was actually good today. He also gave us some run out of the backline.
Lids best game for the Club. He got our third quarter comeback going.
Thought Hyde was very valuable today with the things he did.
Richo looked like he was still lacking match fitness in the first half but got better as the game went along.
Polak was the better match up for Everitt than Patto although Everitt was the difference in the ruck contests. We missed Simmo again badly. It especially hurt us near goal at both ends. The Swans got some easy crumbing goals from Everitt and Jolly's taps over the back.
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Today as well as last week really showed up our lack of depth in our ruck stocks. Patto, I primarily see as a 2nd ruckman who rotates around the ground. I'm confident that once Simmo comes back in, things will start to click back into place.
We also need to nab a good young ruckman this year. In the draft we might be able to get one of Kreuzer or Bellchambers. But looking at other clubs, we could try and nab a promising young ruckman. Adelaide's Meesen could be one
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ladies and gents
we will win
had a preminition last night, a dream!
we come back from behind in the last quarter to win
polo bog 4 goals!!!
:thumbsup :thumbsup
first time in 6 months that i have not dreamed about julz :thumbsup or jennifer hawkins :lol
go tigers!
ok , my dream got it right, but not really .
in my dream, there were different umpires out there.
not being a sore loser as im proud of teh boys , they tried and played damn hard today.
but seriously, we were crucified by the umpires today, absolutely 2 sets of rules out there and i went off my rocker . lucky u cant brings guns to the G as i woudl have shot those umpires dead! they were pathetic with a capital P!
well done tigers boys, we improved 102 points compared to last yr!
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Good effort - no injuries :thumbsup
Did anyone see what happened to Hyde before the game?
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Disappointed we didn't win - 2 costly turnovers in the final qtr when we were right on top.
Thought Lids was great - best game he has played.
Polak is going to be good for us. Has some real footy smarts :clapping :clapping
Was impressed with McGuane's game - still has alot to learn and areas to improve but you cannot fault his endeavour or his commitment to the contest.
Moore was good on O'Keefe (who I thinkis one oft he best palyers in the comp) - needs to work on his disposal though (but hey he is not alone)
Again I found myself screaming at blokes for not chasing or putting pressure on the opposition.
Half way through the frist qtr I thought it was going to be blow out but to the Tigers credit they kept hanging in there. Not a doubt in my mind Simmo and Brown out there today (especially Simmo) and we would have won that game.
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If we had played a more attacking type of footy in the first qtr we may have been closer or even in front.
I dont understand why we flooded so heavily in the first qtr, no need for it. Those people talking about how boring Sydney are should look at they way we played in the first qtr, it was a disgrace. Pushed numbers back and then trying to hit players running forward is impossible with our skill level.
To their credit, the team turned it around and played a more attacking brand of footy in the second half. Still think we should have won, too many costly errors when delivering inside F50. I think that too many of our players push inside 50 too early and take up too much room. It gets too congested for the likes of Richo and Shultz.
Once Kingsley is back we are going to need a more open forward line and give him space to run and lead into.
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Did anyone see what happened to Hyde before the game?
He clashed heads with a teammate :-\.
Again I found myself screaming at blokes for not chasing or putting pressure on the opposition.
Add the number of times we didn't shepherd when we had the ball.
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Yes certainly Gaspar's best game in a long time, I was shocked, and hopefully he strings a few of those together, and I will happily take some of my own medicine if he does.
I was happy with the backline today, it suffered a big drop in class when Joel was required up the ground (which was also good to see, don't forget he can hurt the opposition more) and still coped well, although that did require Lids to drop back quite deep, you're robbing peter to pay paul in a way. McGuane gave me confidence that he is capable of taking over when Gas is finished, he looks to have the right attitude for a defender.
1% excellent, tackling great, agree with Bull about the need to create space in the forward line, we need to stream in with the flight of the ball, and put our speedsters to more use.
Thought Polo did well on Goodes, Polo is fit but Goodes showed him today how much ground the elite onballers cover, great for Polo.
The negatives I thought today, was again the midfield, Kane Johnson, sorry, is not doing the job in there, he looks and plays better in the back pocket for us, maybe that's where he should stay. I know they might be trying to educate Lids in the backline, but we really need him in the midfield, a lot of things have changed in footy, but imo there is one thing that has stayed the same and that is that you put your best players in the midfield.
And I know Tuck wins a lot of hard footy, but yes WP he needs to look where he is kicking it. It's poo footy...it cost us a bit today. You can't really afford Tuck AND Johnson in the midfield. I know you have to win the thing first, but lets get some people in there that know how to use it. If I had to put Tuck anywhere else on the field it would be a HFF, see if he can't jag a couple.
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If we had played a more attacking type of footy in the first qtr we may have been closer or even in front.
I dont understand why we flooded so heavily in the first qtr, no need for it. Those people talking about how boring Sydney are should look at they way we played in the first qtr, it was a disgrace. Pushed numbers back and then trying to hit players running forward is impossible with our skill level.
It was paying off in the first 10 minutes of the game but we failed to take our chances. We should have kicked the first 3 goals. Tivs after snagging a snap missed what should have been a gimme set shot for a left-footer and Polo missed everything from an acute angle. So we were 1.1 instead of 3.0 and the Swans made us pay by kicking the next 4 to set up the margin they eventually won by.
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Good effort - no injuries :thumbsup
Did anyone see what happened to Hyde before the game?
just got back soreness in the warm up from what i heard
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we played the flood to stop a blow out early. im sure the plan was for teh first half to flood and keep teh game tight and in the second half to use our fitness and run to go over the top of tehm
it nearly worked
i dont blame our turnovers for losing this game, cos they were way down from past games.
i blame the umpires! they did not pay any holding the ball decisions for us during teh game! we tackled them to tyhe ground and the umpires definately cheated! our boys won the clearances, won the contested footy and won the hard ball gets against the team that is meant to be the best in this area in the afl!
richo, poor bastar.d! the guy was raped all day, had hand in his back all day, had his arms chopped all day and the effin whistle was put away! however the effin swans were rewarded for these free kicks. made me sick in the guts and im convinced gieshen the c u n ? has a vendetta against us!
by the way, i believe we have unearthed our next captain, and he should be made captain asap
NATHAN FOLEY!!!!
HARD , TOUGH, NEVER QUITS, COURAGEOUS AND ATTACKING!
newman should be vice captain.
who cares if he is a midget, so was bondy and he was a gr8 leader, foley just has machine written all over him and its time for sugar to stand down.
who is gonnna be dropped to make way for brown and snake.
they will probably drop patto, but that wont be fairm, they may drop howat or krak, but that wont be fair either.
imho, sugar is the weak link along with tuuck. he must make way, but being captain his position is safe and that sucks with a capital S! but tuck has to go, he is as dumb as dog poo and is killing us with his decicion making. moore and mguane imo were fantastic, sure they made an error or too, but they are still young and raw considering their experience but they way they back up and help and throw their bodies in was fantastic.
tambling is nearly there, 2 more games and he will start crushing teams, that burst our of teh middle will become a feature for him, but he must learn to slow down and steady when he kicks for goal, you cant kick accurately and fluently at 100 mph.
lids bog imo, he must use this game as a blue print and run and bounce and break the lines from here on in.
tivendale was pretty good again
krak was hard , ppl who say he is soft think again , he is along with foley opur best inside player, krak uses his agality and evasive skills, foley his raw power.
all in all it sux not getting the 4 points but we cant blame the boys today, they busted their guts and nearly pulled a gr8 win off! no one gave us a hope and everyone expected us to be thumped to kindom come this easter weekend.
if we play that hard v teh pies next week we will win by 10 goals
polak is gonna be a star, lets hope his head stays screwed on.
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Good effort - no injuries :thumbsup
Did anyone see what happened to Hyde before the game?
He ran into Tambling during the warm up and I think hit his head. Seemed a bit dazed and the commentators were wondering if he would start on the ground.
Richo definitely was a victim to the umpires poor decision making. Kane Johnston(?) had a free against him for chopping which resulted in a Swans goal and the same thing happens to Richo and it's play-on. Foley was great. Lids seemed quiet in the first half. Who was on Kirk? Players need to be able to hit targets. Tiv was good. Agree re Kane Johnston - worse on ground. Polak great in ruck. Tambling great. McGuane was good. On the whole, as I didn't expect us to win - until the last quarter - I thought we put up a great fight against the Swans. At least no 100 point thrashing.
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who is gonnna be dropped to make way for brown and snake.
they will probably drop patto, but that wont be fairm, they may drop howat or krak, but that wont be fair either.
Patto won't be dropped. We need two ruckman when Simmo comes back and Patto at this stage of his career will find it easier as a relieving ruckman rather than needing to be the spearhead. This will also free up Polak to play either forward or back.
I don't think neither Simmo or Browny will be back for the Pies. Give them another week to be sure. Even then Simmo hasn't played a single game including the preseason so do we build up his match fitness at Richmond or Coburg?!
As for changes it's our senior leadership players who are struggling even though they are getting their hands on the footy. Richo isn't match fit yet although he got better in the second half. Sugar and Joel combined at least 3 times to stuff up a clear attacking move into an open forward line by playing too cute happy handball between each other on the wing :scream. Tuck did his negating job on Kirk so I don't think he'll get dropped.
Howat, Raines, Krak, Tambo all had less than 10 possies as running players.
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we played the flood to stop a blow out early. im sure the plan was for teh first half to flood and keep teh game tight and in the second half to use our fitness and run to go over the top of tehm
it nearly worked
i dont blame our turnovers for losing this game, cos they were way down from past games.
i blame the umpires! they did not pay any holding the ball decisions for us during teh game! we tackled them to tyhe ground and the umpires definately cheated! our boys won the clearances, won the contested footy and won the hard ball gets against the team that is meant to be the best in this area in the afl!
richo, poor bastar.d! the guy was raped all day, had hand in his back all day, had his arms chopped all day and the effin whistle was put away! however the effin swans were rewarded for these free kicks. made me sick in the guts and im convinced gieshen the c u n ? has a vendetta against us!
by the way, i believe we have unearthed our next captain, and he should be made captain asap
NATHAN FOLEY!!!!
HARD , TOUGH, NEVER QUITS, COURAGEOUS AND ATTACKING!
newman should be vice captain.
who cares if he is a midget, so was bondy and he was a gr8 leader, foley just has machine written all over him and its time for sugar to stand down.
who is gonnna be dropped to make way for brown and snake.
they will probably drop patto, but that wont be fairm, they may drop howat or krak, but that wont be fair either.
imho, sugar is the weak link along with tuuck. he must make way, but being captain his position is safe and that sucks with a capital S! but tuck has to go, he is as dumb as dog poo and is killing us with his decicion making. moore and mguane imo were fantastic, sure they made an error or too, but they are still young and raw considering their experience but they way they back up and help and throw their bodies in was fantastic.
tambling is nearly there, 2 more games and he will start crushing teams, that burst our of teh middle will become a feature for him, but he must learn to slow down and steady when he kicks for goal, you cant kick accurately and fluently at 100 mph.
lids bog imo, he must use this game as a blue print and run and bounce and break the lines from here on in.
tivendale was pretty good again
krak was hard , ppl who say he is soft think again , he is along with foley opur best inside player, krak uses his agality and evasive skills, foley his raw power.
all in all it sux not getting the 4 points but we cant blame the boys today, they busted their guts and nearly pulled a gr8 win off! no one gave us a hope and everyone expected us to be thumped to kindom come this easter weekend.
if we play that hard v teh pies next week we will win by 10 goals
polak is gonna be a star, lets hope his head stays screwed on.
I have to agree X....i havent been that annoyed and vocal about the umpiring for a while.I had my old man with me and he is usually impartial and he was quite baffled as well.
They were consistently inconsistent and they can all go get stuffed if that is the standard we have to endure.
I was pleased with our efforts though but our glaring weakness is our skill level with way too many ineffective disposals.
And you know what?...When i saw our flooding early and swans scratching around with their possessions i was prepared to put up with that if we were going to extract a win....as i am sick to effing death of us opening up and watching us getting thumped....not pretty footy but until we are up to standard in th skills dept then i see nothing wrong with that style of play....nonetheless it was good to see us run and carry yesterday..
By the way X i managed to get a twenty on at $17 for us over 39....oh well haha i will have another go when we have west coast in a few weeks....i only jump on us when we are long shots....more rewarding! :cheers
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;D l watch every game every week & the umpiring standard is pathetic to say the least
no wonder when they got Geishien running the show
l see alot of umpire mistakes could this be a Geish thing to pay us back
how can 2 umpires rule a mark in front of goal when 2 players from the same side both touch the ball & the mark paid to Spider the result a goal
l think the 3 field umpiring system is not working and never has done
Hows it going X you old forum troll :bow
well at least we aint getting flogged without our best team on the ground the kids are doing well support them
Good to see Tivendale playing some leading football :clapping :clapping :gotigers