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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ramps on April 14, 2007, 09:53:26 AM

Title: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Ramps on April 14, 2007, 09:53:26 AM
If we end up say 4 an 18 for the season, do we get to the stage where we have 1 final tilt at Kevin Sheedy. Do we pay out Wallace and take the pain financially. YES or NO?
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: letsgetiton! on April 14, 2007, 10:00:55 AM
not sure
sheedy is a bomber now, he forgot us long ago
i say get knights with sheedy as an assistant to mentor him
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: bluey_21 on April 14, 2007, 10:36:27 AM
Knighta was an awesome player (had his number on my guensey) with a huge heart and he bled for Richmond, but just don't know what creds he has as a coach.
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: letsgetiton! on April 14, 2007, 10:39:53 AM
Knighta was an awesome player (had his number on my guensey) with a huge heart and he bled for Richmond, but just don't know what creds he has as a coach.

sheedy wants knighter to succeed him at essendon, thats how good he is

we lose all our best ppl to other clubs
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: bluey_21 on April 14, 2007, 10:49:04 AM
Knighta was an awesome player (had his number on my guensey) with a huge heart and he bled for Richmond, but just don't know what creds he has as a coach.

sheedy wants knighter to succeed him at essendon, thats how good he is

we lose all our best ppl to other clubs

That's all the convincing I need X.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Life goes on on April 14, 2007, 11:13:13 AM
Question has to be asked why have good Richmond people left the club? Eg Knights etc. and we get non-richmond people running the show.
Thats why our culture is stuffed!
thats why we are going no where ? sorry we are , going down!
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Mopsy on April 14, 2007, 11:55:35 AM
The white ants are at it again :sleep
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 14, 2007, 12:03:24 PM
Question has to be asked why have good Richmond people left the club? Eg Knights etc. and we get non-richmond people running the show.
Thats why our culture is stuffed!
thats why we are going no where ? sorry we are , going down!

Hold a minute Matthew Knights was at the RFC during this sustained period of "non-success" ( was going to say failure but I am practicing my spin doctoring ;D) - so the wasn't he part of this culture that we so desparately want to get rid of?

So he is at Essendon now - does this mean he has now found "success culture" lying around and he can come back to Richmond and sprinkle it around an hey presto everythings gonna be "peachy".

As for getting Sheedy back - NO.

Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Life goes on on April 14, 2007, 12:13:40 PM
No, I am just saying that Matthew Knights ia a quality person.
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Tigermonk on April 14, 2007, 12:18:57 PM
there are many reasons why good people leave our club
if you look at every person who has left the club you will see 95% are genuine reasons & not because of the club itself
Wallace is rebuilding after years of misjudged decisions from previous board & coaches its not fixed in a few years
Wallace may never take us to a premeirship but he may build a strong foundation & if another coach came in & coached a premiership in his 1st year everyone would be kissing his ass and forget all the years of work put in place by the coach & board before him
Dont forget Richmond were broke & down & out nearly a few years back
you want a good coach but only have peanuts to pay him you get someone like Frawley with no game plan because no-one else wanted the gig
you want a premiership them you pay someone who will weed out the weakness and build a team then he will inplace a gameplan to win a premiership but this is still a few years away

Answer me this has Malthouse won the skunks a premiership
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: blaisee on April 14, 2007, 02:34:45 PM
seriously ,

the amount of crap on this board is an absolute disgrace, especially from people that should know better.

Kevin Sheedy.... you have to be joking, Kevin Sheedy doesnt give a stuff about richmond, if he did, he would have come back in the last 25 years, Sheedy cares about Sheedy, and that is it. He only used the tigers as a bargaining tool to strengthen his position against the bombers.

and as for matthew knights, give me a break. Thats all we need ex-underperforming players to help prop up this underperforming team. I loved mattie knights, but for farks sake surely the tigers best interests would be served if he and wayne campbell learnt about coaching outside punt road and then came back to tigerland with something new to offer rather than the same old poo we have had for the last 27 years.




jack, you are a disgrace.
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Life goes on on April 14, 2007, 04:14:14 PM
Incorrect my friend.
Richmond are a disgrace!.
Talk to me after round 11
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: diggler on April 14, 2007, 05:02:22 PM
Knights coaching Richmond!!!!
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
All those losers from the 90's should be banned from the club!!
He would only enhance a losing culture!
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: letsgetiton! on April 14, 2007, 05:05:58 PM
Knights coaching Richmond!!!!
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
All those losers from the 90's should be banned from the club!!
He would only enhance a losing culture!

matty knights was never and will never be a loser!
its not his fault he was surrounded by losers

Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: mightytiges on April 14, 2007, 05:31:39 PM
If we end up say 4 an 18 for the season, do we get to the stage where we have 1 final tilt at Kevin Sheedy. Do we pay out Wallace and take the pain financially. YES or NO?

Bombers coughed up a 7 goal lead today. They're as bad as us lol.
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Rodgerramjet on April 14, 2007, 05:35:30 PM
Knighta was an awesome player (had his number on my guensey) with a huge heart and he bled for Richmond, but just don't know what creds he has as a coach.

sheedy wants knighter to succeed him at essendon, thats how good he is

we lose all our best ppl to other clubs

Sheedy does not want knights to succeed him at Essendon, Sheedy knows that Knights respects and admires him and wont shaft him from behind.
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Rodgerramjet on April 14, 2007, 05:42:35 PM
If we end up say 4 an 18 for the season, do we get to the stage where we have 1 final tilt at Kevin Sheedy. Do we pay out Wallace and take the pain financially. YES or NO?

NO, big mistake if we did that.

1. We need to honour our obligations
2. We are losing yes, but the side is probably better than what it was last year.
3. There's still a few more players that need shafting before Wallace.
4. Sheedy's next job will be with the AFL.
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Fishfinger on April 14, 2007, 06:18:15 PM
Question has to be asked why have good Richmond people left the club? Eg Knights etc. and we get non-richmond people running the show.
Thats why our culture is stuffed!

Good people leave every club.
If you mean the coach as in running the show, same as 13 other clubs. Of the other 2, Paul Roos has assistants who are good people from other clubs.
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Tigermonk on April 14, 2007, 09:45:22 PM
Knights coaching Richmond!!!!
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
All those losers from the 90's should be banned from the club!!
He would only enhance a losing culture!

are you a serious supporter or what
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Stephanie on April 14, 2007, 09:48:02 PM
Bombers coughed up a 7 goal lead today. They're as bad as us lol.

So how's your mighty bombers going Jackstar?  :whistle
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Moi on April 14, 2007, 09:48:40 PM
Knights coaching Richmond!!!!
Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!
All those losers from the 90's should be banned from the club!!
He would only enhance a losing culture!

are you a serious supporter or what

Diggler is a serious supporter - just suffering a little battle fatigue lol
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Moi on April 14, 2007, 09:49:26 PM
Bombers coughed up a 7 goal lead today. They're as bad as us lol.

So how's your mighty bombers going Jackstar?  :whistle
The silence is deafening  :rollin
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: cub on April 14, 2007, 09:59:05 PM
What would that achieve - seriously  ???

Sheeds has had his chances - why would we want him now
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Bulluss on April 14, 2007, 10:27:10 PM
I also think that we should honour Wallace's contract.

Looking back on things, when we actually appointed Wallace it should have only been for 3 years with maybe a 2 year option.

This would make him a little more hungry.

I think Wallace should spend more time doing things that are going to make us successful rather than doing all of the publicity stuff. I know the club loves it but we dont need it.

We all know that a successful Richmond outfit will put bums on seats equal to or greater than any club in the league.

What i do think we should look at doing is big money to someone like Scott Clayton who can help us draft the right players that we need to build a powerhouse. We need to work on recruiting.

Seriously how long can Greg Miller live on the back of recruiting Wayne Carey.

Wow, he got one right  ;D :wallywink
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: Bulluss on April 14, 2007, 11:00:51 PM
We will either win this week or get pumped by the Dogs.

They didnt look too impressive tonight.

Saints will be a tough task Jack  ;) :shh
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: mightytiges on April 14, 2007, 11:59:58 PM
I also think that we should honour Wallace's contract.

Looking back on things, when we actually appointed Wallace it should have only been for 3 years with maybe a 2 year option.

This would make him a little more hungry.
Conversely you could argue a 3 year deal would only make the coach think short term to save his own neck. Hunger should automatically be part of a coach's professionalism.

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I think Wallace should spend more time doing things that are going to make us successful rather than doing all of the publicity stuff. I know the club loves it but we dont need it.
Agree Bully. Especially now we're 0-3 and how we've fallen away in all 3 games. The focus needs to be on the team. According to Ch 9 news we had a crisis meeting today.

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What i do think we should look at doing is big money to someone like Scott Clayton who can help us draft the right players that we need to build a powerhouse. We need to work on recruiting.
Not a bad idea. Whatever we can do to pump more money into our recruiting we should do it. Every club lives and dies by their recruiting.
Title: Re: Pay out Wallace and Get Sheedy- Yes or No
Post by: mightytiges on April 15, 2007, 12:19:44 AM
The dogs game is a massive test for us just from a self-belief viewpoint. Probably the most important game for us in a long long time. If we believed before Friday night that we were mentally soft then how fragile will the team's state of mind be now. I hope some home truths were spoken at the crisis team meeting and each player individually as well as collectively were told exactly where they are at before they were asked what they are going to do about it next week. It's a crunch game although I don't want us to make it the "crunch" game. We need to learn to win and without any silly gimmicks. Show some pride and belief in yourself as well as in each other.