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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Ramps on April 20, 2007, 11:51:49 PM
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Bring in the kids, Edwards showed a little bit tonighht, bring in Oakley Nicholls Riewoldt and Meyer vs WCE and at the first opportunity bring in Casserley Hughes and Conners during the season.
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It's certainly time to blood the kids and give them the experience that they need to develop in the next few years.
Polak needs to be put at CHB and left there.
Let players play a set position and give them a chance.
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No side has made the top 8 from 0-4 so yep time to get games into the cubs. We need to find players with class otherwise we'll stay in mediocreland.
I thought Edwards' footy brain and footskills stood out like a beakon last night. Had the awareness to run, cut back and find teammates inside the corridor that were in better and attacking positions. Probably the only mistake he made was going long for goal late in the last quarter but the game was long gone by that stage.
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They must have listened to you Ramps. JON and Riewoldt must be very close now.
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clever must come in the mix too
i know he hasnt done much but he has been unwell
meyer also, we need to let these guys taste the real stuff again, keep them motivated
i say bring them all in and drop all our "stars" richo, gas, petts, paddy, sugar
we bring a whole bunch of enthusiastic kids , the wce wont know how to play them
yes they will be intimidating with their size but we would not be so predictable with a new team
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You forgot to mention dropping Krak.
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You forgot to mention dropping Krak.
krak does not need to be dropped
his presure and brain creates many scoring chances
kraks only problem is he has a high footy iq but playing in a team full of dunces who have no idea how to play the game
if krak played for the bombers the eagles crows swans etc , he would be an elite player, not elite athlete , ELITE PLAYER
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drop P.Bowden, Gaspar ...
put Polak in defense ...
play Pattison ...
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I don't believe Meyer did enough to warrant a senior game this week. Sturggled in the first half much beeter in the 2nd yesterday against Werribee.
JON - has been consistent in the 3 VFL games so far - so he would be the logical next promotion behind Jackson who going by what the coaches say has been very good.
Reiwoldt - is not ready for the big stuff -YET. He started yesterday at CHF , spent time at CHB and looked lost and then had a really good final term. Compared to the previous week against Nth Ballarat he was down, which from kids learning you expect (you know up one week donw the next)
Connors was sensational yesterday (super impressive) but it was his FIRST game for Coburg so IMHO cannot be considered.
We need to make changes because we have a number of players out of form and it continues to costs us. Perhaps it is time to send blokes back to Coburg to get some form back....
best example I can give is........
Pattison started very slowly yesterday - was clearly a bloke down on confidence which I think is the reuslt of the pummeling his had the previous 3 weeks by the end fo the game yesterday he was a lot better. His 2nd half was very good - doing all the 1%ers that is one of his strengths - a game at Coburg was clearly what he needed
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So who comes in for JON and Jackson if we go that way?
I hope we give Edwards and King more than just one game when Petts, Sugar and Krak are way down on form. Paddy would be another in line for another run at Coburg.
I still don't see Browny coming back for while.
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You forgot to mention dropping Krak.
krak does not need to be dropped
his presure and brain creates many scoring chances
kraks only problem is he has a high footy iq but playing in a team full of dunces who have no idea how to play the game
if krak played for the bombers the eagles crows swans etc , he would be an elite player, not elite athlete , ELITE PLAYER
We're not talking about Nathan Krakouer. Andrew Krakouer, apart from his 3 goals last weeks, has hardly been setting the field on fire. He's averaging 12 possession per game and would be lucky if he lays 3 tackles per game. If he was so smart, he would be creating opportunities and not relying on his team-mates to create them.
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You forgot to mention dropping Krak.
krak does not need to be dropped
his presure and brain creates many scoring chances
kraks only problem is he has a high footy iq but playing in a team full of dunces who have no idea how to play the game
if krak played for the bombers the eagles crows swans etc , he would be an elite player, not elite athlete , ELITE PLAYER
We're not talking about Nathan Krakouer. Andrew Krakouer, apart from his 3 goals last weeks, has hardly been setting the field on fire. He's averaging 12 possession per game and would be lucky if he lays 3 tackles per game. If he was so smart, he would be creating opportunities and not relying on his team-mates to create them.
Hard to believe Krak will play his 100th game in 3 weeks.
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You forgot to mention dropping Krak.
krak does not need to be dropped
his presure and brain creates many scoring chances
kraks only problem is he has a high footy iq but playing in a team full of dunces who have no idea how to play the game
if krak played for the bombers the eagles crows swans etc , he would be an elite player, not elite athlete , ELITE PLAYER
We're not talking about Nathan Krakouer. Andrew Krakouer, apart from his 3 goals last weeks, has hardly been setting the field on fire. He's averaging 12 possession per game and would be lucky if he lays 3 tackles per game. If he was so smart, he would be creating opportunities and not relying on his team-mates to create them.
its been very sunny in qld ???
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We're not talking about Nathan Krakouer. Andrew Krakouer, apart from his 3 goals last weeks, has hardly been setting the field on fire. He's averaging 12 possession per game and would be lucky if he lays 3 tackles per game. If he was so smart, he would be creating opportunities and not relying on his team-mates to create them.
I know you need more than just forward pressure, but going to the game on Friday and watching Krakouer a lot, he is still far and away our best player at defensive pressure up forward. He chased hard all day and you can't look purely at tackles, you have to look at the pressure he puts on as well. Until other guys like Meyer step up and put in the intensity that Krakouer does up forward he will continue to get games.
Unfortunately for Krak he just doesn't have the pace to mow blokes down like a Davey.
I reckon if he was in a decent side there'd be no problem, but because of where we are at, we're so desperate for every player to contribute so much that it's easy to single him out as someone not doing enough. Nothing highlights that more than people constantly talking about his possession count. No player that is in the forward pocket for most of the game is going to rack up a high count.
Krakouer could definitely be a lot better and/or we can do a lot better than Krakouer, but it's frustrating that he gets singled out so much when in reality there are far bigger problems in our side that we need to be focusing on first. You only had to watch the way we continually made the wrong decision under pressure when bringing the ball out of defence, or the way we had no precision into the forward line and simply bombed high balls in.
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True there are bigger problems than Krak jezza but if he's going to play mainly as a forward pocket then he needs to lead up and present himself as a alternative marking option as well as a crumber. Phil Matera, Farmer and even duds like Medhurst and Milne got/get their goals from marks as well as crumbs. Even forgetting that, the modern game really requires every non-KPP to be a potential rotating midfielder when the first choice midfielders are rested. That's not Krak's thing.
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Yeah, I will agree with that MT. It's not something he does well enough, although against the Dogs it was hard for all our forwards, Dogs had at times 3 loose men up forward which obviously makes it very difficult to make leads.
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We're not talking about Nathan Krakouer. Andrew Krakouer, apart from his 3 goals last weeks, has hardly been setting the field on fire. He's averaging 12 possession per game and would be lucky if he lays 3 tackles per game. If he was so smart, he would be creating opportunities and not relying on his team-mates to create them.
I know you need more than just forward pressure, but going to the game on Friday and watching Krakouer a lot, he is still far and away our best player at defensive pressure up forward. He chased hard all day and you can't look purely at tackles, you have to look at the pressure he puts on as well. Until other guys like Meyer step up and put in the intensity that Krakouer does up forward he will continue to get games.
Unfortunately for Krak he just doesn't have the pace to mow blokes down like a Davey.
I reckon if he was in a decent side there'd be no problem, but because of where we are at, we're so desperate for every player to contribute so much that it's easy to single him out as someone not doing enough. Nothing highlights that more than people constantly talking about his possession count. No player that is in the forward pocket for most of the game is going to rack up a high count.
Krakouer could definitely be a lot better and/or we can do a lot better than Krakouer, but it's frustrating that he gets singled out so much when in reality there are far bigger problems in our side that we need to be focusing on first. You only had to watch the way we continually made the wrong decision under pressure when bringing the ball out of defence, or the way we had no precision into the forward line and simply bombed high balls in.
we can all see that here jezza but in qld, the sun blinds many ppl
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Yeah, I will agree with that MT. It's not something he does well enough, although against the Dogs it was hard for all our forwards, Dogs had at times 3 loose men up forward which obviously makes it very difficult to make leads.
Yep that's true also jezza and it didn't help when instead of switching the play back to the corridor to maintain posession and quickly across to the other side of the ground to outflank the doggies' defence and create space for our forwards to lead into, a number of our guys just lazily bombed it inside 50 to 1 on 3 contests :scream.
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Yep MT, very frustrating to watch. Especially when we would do the same thing at the other end, but the dogs would move it quickly then pin-point beautiful kicks to forwards on the lead and tear our flood to pieces.
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Soy Sauce believes that Krak, Polo and P.Bowden will be playing on Anzac Day.
Mail is that Cleve and JON will be playing on Saturday. :shh
Still one spot up for grabs at this stage, maybe they are waiting to see if Brown comes up
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Still one spot up for grabs at this stage, maybe they are waiting to see if Brown comes up
If Brownie plays, I hope you all make a point of going to see him in his last match for the Tigers.
Mushroom sauce has told me that Brownie has been told if he does the leg again he will walk with a limp for the rest of his life.
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I would have thought if Browny's leg isnt going to hold up it he would have called it quits by now.
:pray :pray
He is out of contract this year so i guess he will be keen to show he is still up to it from next year on.
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I would have thought if Browny's leg isnt going to hold up it he would have called it quits by now.
:pray :pray
He is out of contract this year so i guess he will be keen to show he is still up to it from next year on.
Just relaying a rumour from a very interesting sauce.
Takes me back to the 70's and Hippo's Hamburgers in Springvale.
They made a mean hamburger with mushroom sauce. They used to put it in two bags because it destroyed just one.
:thumbsup
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Soy Sauce believes that Krak, Polo and P.Bowden will be playing on Anzac Day.
Mail is that Cleve and JON will be playing on Saturday. :shh
Still one spot up for grabs at this stage, maybe they are waiting to see if Brown comes up
Not doubting Soy Sauce - but I'd be bloody disppaointed if Polo got dropped. That doesn't seem logical to me - but what do I know ;D I don't think he's been our worst over the 4 weeks - no logic
As for playing Saturday - hmmmm :shh at which venue :rollin
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Soy Sauce believes that Krak, Polo and P.Bowden will be playing on Anzac Day.
Mail is that Cleve and JON will be playing on Saturday. :shh
Still one spot up for grabs at this stage, maybe they are waiting to see if Brown comes up
Thanks for that Bully. Interesting that Clever may get promoted after just one strong Coburg game. JON obviously deserves his chance. Tiger supporters will weant to see Jack play.
The only thing I can think of WP is that Polo might be doing time for Cooney getting away from him and kicking 4. Still I think he is stiff after one poor game if that happens. Maybe they might want to try Jacko as tagger.
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Still one spot up for grabs at this stage, maybe they are waiting to see if Brown comes up
If Brownie plays, I hope you all make a point of going to see him in his last match for the Tigers.
Mushroom sauce has told me that Brownie has been told if he does the leg again he will walk with a limp for the rest of his life.
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No one wants to see footballers suffer after their career has finished. I'd rather Browny retire for his own sake than risk that.
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Soy Sauce believes that Krak, Polo and P.Bowden will be playing on Anzac Day.
Mail is that Cleve and JON will be playing on Saturday. :shh
Still one spot up for grabs at this stage, maybe they are waiting to see if Brown comes up
Thanks for that Bully. Interesting that Clever may get promoted after just one strong Coburg game. JON obviously deserves his chance. Tiger supporters will weant to see Jack play.
The only thing I can think of WP is that Polo might be doing time for Cooney getting away from him and kicking 4. Still I think he is stiff after one poor game if that happens. Maybe they might want to try Jacko as tagger.
Might be something to do with the stupid hairdo, why bring attention to your self,
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My mail is that Cleve was set to dropped to the Coburg 2's a 2 weeks ago and now he is going to be playing Seniors.
I dont think it sets a good example if he plays after one good game and Jack has played a few and doesnt get a chance.
All the best to Cleve though, i think he has something to offer us and may be one of those players who doesnt show his best until challenged with a role in the seniors.
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My mail is that Cleve was set to dropped to the Coburg 2's a 2 weeks ago and now he is going to be playing Seniors.
I dont think it sets a good example if he plays after one good game and Jack has played a few and doesnt get a chance.
All the best to Cleve though, i think he has something to offer us and may be one of those players who doesnt show his best until challenged with a role in the seniors.
maybe they went soft on cleve cos he has not been well
i reckon both JR and clever should play, they cant be any worse than the crap we have out there atm
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I would be happier for Jack to serve a longer apprenticeship. Let him string 3 or 4 good ones together and then give him the confidence and smarts to make an impact at AFL level. We need to get the culture of earning your spot back and the harder you work to get it the harder you will try and maintain it. Its great to actually see some pressure coming from the Burgers for senior spots. A lot of them on notice for once! Good stuff!
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Still one spot up for grabs at this stage, maybe they are waiting to see if Brown comes up
If Brownie plays, I hope you all make a point of going to see him in his last match for the Tigers.
Mushroom sauce has told me that Brownie has been told if he does the leg again he will walk with a limp for the rest of his life.
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SEN said yesterday that a player will be announcing his retirement on the footy show this week with the rumours saying it's Bucks. Let's hope it's not Browny.
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You might find the person who is going to retire could be looked at as a "Saint or a Sinner"
Depends which team you barrack for :shh :thumbsup
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You might find the person who is going to retire could be looked at as a "Saint or a Sinner"
Depends which team you barrack for :shh :thumbsup
Ham ill up Bully :whistle
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Would be disappointed to see polo out but if polo out is the price to pay to see guys like Krak and P Bowden out i can take it..
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I'll give this its own thread shortly but
Round 4 Anzac Day Team Vs. Box Hill
B
J.Oakley-Nicholls S.Robertson C.Hughes
HB
A.Neville J.Silvester T.Casserly
C
M.White T.Simpson D.Meyer
HF
J.Mullins J.Riewoldt K.Moore
F
D.Jackson A.Pattison R.Anderson
R
T.Ronaldson M. Sewell C.Howat
Interchange From
D.Connors P.Shelton A.Graham N.Carnell D. Polo B.Dowd
A. Horne S.Foster D.Rayson F. Caruso L.Hill J.Morgan
http://coburgtigers.footballvic.com.au/default.aspx?s=newsdisplay&aid=119226
Great message there I would think ::)
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As I said in the Coburg thread, not one underperforming senior player appears to have been punished after 4 straight losses.
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In: Coburg
Out: Richmond
;D
Seriously sounds like
In: JON, Hughes, Jackson
Out: Krak, Paddy, Polo
Jack a bit stiff with Clever in after one excellent Coburg game.
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In: Coburg
Out: Richmond
;D
Seriously sounds like
In: JON, Hughes, Jackson
Out: Krak, Paddy, Polo
Jack a bit stiff with Clever in after one excellent Coburg game.
Reckon some seniors will be hoping to get dropped to the Burgers so they can get a taste of a win ;D :lol :rollin
Also with Polo, why would we drop him? he played pretty well against the Doggies except for that 5 or so minutes when Cooney cut loose
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Also with Polo, why would we drop him? he played pretty well against the Doggies except for that 5 or so minutes when Cooney cut loose
Rumour doing the rounds is he was dropped for disciplinary reasons.
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If the source of the rumours is BigFooty I'd say its just a load of BS
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If the source of the rumours is BigFooty I'd say its just a load of BS
You're probably right lol
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In: Coburg
Out: Richmond
First laugh I have had all day.
I had one son struggling with a Maths assignment (which I refused to do for him causing much angst) and a Bomber supporting wife getting grumpier as the day wore on.
Looks like I'm cooking tonight.
Oh well, time to open another crownie.
:cheers
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Also with Polo, why would we drop him? he played pretty well against the Doggies except for that 5 or so minutes when Cooney cut loose
Rumour doing the rounds is he was dropped for disciplinary reasons.
reckon leopard-head might have been getting a bit ahead of himself.
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McRae had JON, Hughes and Jackson as his best RFC players against Werribee. Mentioned Jackson was close to senior selection after the job his did on Mitch Hahn. Fits in with a poster on BF who said he heard Jacko is definitely playing this week against the Eagles.
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reckon leopard-head might have been getting a bit ahead of himself.
I was thinking that too, but maybe I was only thinking that because of his ridiculous haircut.