One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: blaisee on May 07, 2007, 03:42:47 PM
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He was right.
We are a mess.
Hopefully we have bottomed out :banghead
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jackstar knows alot more than many ppl give him credit for. way back when these discussions first started i also doubted jackstar, but after a few convos with him , i soon realised he knows what he is on about, he is not bitter he is just angry cos he knows whats going on and its not right.
regardless where jackstar works he is a richmond man and all he wants is teh best 4 the tigers, and he knows the inner sanctum at tigerland and knows we are a circus
i think everyone who has been blasting jack should apologise cos he aint bitter, he is just a frustrated fan who understands more than us what is wrong at the club
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Doubted him - you told him in no uncertain terms where to go. :lol
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Doubted him - you told him in no uncertain terms where to go. :lol
i did, only cos i was thinking with my heart and not my head, thats a big problem with many tiger fans.
jackstar has filled me in on a few things and i tells ya, tigers are doomed unless drastic changes are made, starting with millers head
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Really you Italians/Sicilians need to control that passion of yours. ;D
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:ROTFL
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you been showing them your gangster traits again X ;D
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you been showing them your gangster traits again X ;D
im a lover not a fighter monk ;)
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Really you Italians/Sicilians need to control that passion of yours. ;D
naaaaa
iu will let my passion control me, maybe you will be lucky to see my passion up close and personal one day!!!
ok back to my dreaming lol
i know i know , u just chucked and will tell me i wish!
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:ROTFL
Really dont find losing by 157 points very funny.
The club wont win a game unless things change.
I reckon the performance was even worse than the floggings we used to get in the late 80,s earlier 90,s . Yesterday was Pathetic!
Reckon the players have had enough on yesterdays effort
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:ROTFL
Really dont find losing by 157 points very funny.
The club wont win a game unless things change.
I reckon the performance was even worse than the floggings we used to get in the late 80,s earlier 90,s . Yesterday was Pathetic!
Reckon the players have had enough on yesterdays effort
Then hopefully we'll weed those players out and identify them after yesterday's performance. And who's laughing at a 157 point loss? I was laughing at something more pathetic!
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Reckon the players have had enough on yesterdays effort
And we've had enough of players making primary schoolboy errors.
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moi was laughing at me but i can take it
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Basically the whole club is a joke.
This has gone on for too many years.
Everyone at the football club is accountable for our current position.
The Gaspar thing just typifies our club, always getting things wrong and stuffing up (and before you jump back and say Gas was finished, it was the right decision at the wrong time)
We never learn from our mistakes, there is always bloodshed over something.
Our club is so unprofessional it is not funny. Why cant we be straight down the line and try and gain some credibility.
We are the laughing stock of the AFL and i am sick of it.
Lift your game RFC, that includes players, coaches, board etc etc EVERYONE!!
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No, laughing at me, but hey, I laugh at myself to myself :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
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No, laughing at me, but hey, I laugh at myself to myself :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Good for you, Jack. You just enjoy the demise of our club, because you stuffing told us so! ::)
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I dont actually , but could see the writing on the wall along time before yesterday happened.
Maybe everyone should open there eyes and watch the shambles that went on yesterday.
Good example .Had friends sitting behind the interchange and they said players didnt know who they were to run with etc etc etc.
If you want to support gabbage like this , its a free world.
By the way, I am a member!
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I dont actually , but could see the writing on the wall along time before yesterday happened.
Anybody could see the writing on the wall if they just examined the deficiencies in our list - deficiencies not created by Wallace. So you could see that scenario but you just thought I can make some mileage out of my own personal situation and stick the knife right in his back.
You're a real courageous bloke ::)
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By the way, I am a member!
Of the Bombers perhaps...
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Dont comment on something you no nothing about.
Sticking knifes in someone back, thats laughable, have told it too his face.
You people think that Greg Miller and Terry Wallet are gods, oh boy ::)
RFC are going no where.
Wallace and Miller ARE responsible for the recruiting over the past 2 years, OH have we all forgotten about how we took Tambling instead of Buddy.
Keep slagging me if you want, thats your choice.
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Just calling it how I see it on here, Jack - you're an open book ::)
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By the way, I am a member!
Of the Bombers perhaps...
Wrong, Richmond . And actually becoming a corporate sponsor :shh
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:rollin
Surely that's good money after bad - well according to how you rate us ::)
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Wallace and Miller ARE responsible for the recruiting over the past 2 years, OH have we all forgotten about how we took Tambling instead of Buddy.
i believe in everything u say jack but this is wrong and the wrong question
we should have taken buddy with our 1st pick not deledio. we keep saying why blingers , well blingers is showing more than deledio.
facts are if the draft was done all over again buddy would be 1.
why did we take lids over buddy!!! thats the real question, especially at a time we were craving for matchwinners and kkp's
question for all?
how many games has deledio ripped open and won for us
and how many has buddy ripped open and won for the hawks.
bigest mistake ever, we had a chance to pick teh best with a first pick and stuffed it,
maybe thats why we are losing, maybe we are tanking to get another chance at a no1 pick
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We took Deledio because he was the best in everyone's opinion at that time universally.
And because Franklin had a lot of questions on his character and I'm not sure they've gone away.
Easy - two great players, who would you pick?
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A bunch of "what if's"
Stop living in the past, there is nothing we can do about it. We chose Lids, Hawthorn got Buddy... you can't do anything about it, unless you want to jump ship and support Hawthorn. Get over it! ::)
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We took Deledio because he was the best in everyone's opinion at that time universally.
And because Franklin had a lot of questions on his character and I'm not sure they've gone away.
Easy - two great players, who would you pick?
a good selector woudl have put all the info and make the right call.
we rarely make the right call with any picks
we stuff them right up.
buddy is 6'5, 6'6 as fast if not faster than deledio and is a matchwinner
i know it is hindsight but buddy was the best kid in the draft
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Hold on, Franklin got picked at 5, Tambling 4.
Nothing to do with Lids ::)
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Hold on, Franklin got picked at 5, Tambling 4.
Nothing to do with Lids ::)
Here here.
And personally I reckon we made the right choice
Everyone is getting on Buddy's bandwagon. Reports suggested at the time that there were risk with Franklin.
The day Buddy at his size starts taking some contested marks and getting a few contested possessions I'll start paying attention to him
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Even the Hawks didn't pick him first - didn't they go for Roughhead
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And the dogs with Griffen
Actually why don't the dogs cop the heat? They already had heaps of young/ish midfielders and not a lot of height..
I know Griffen will be better than Tambling but still...
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Griffen has bigger body, thats the problem, we have too many "" light weights""
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buddy is 6'5, 6'6 as fast if not faster than deledio and is a matchwinner
:o :o :rollin :rollin
Sorry X, this has to be one of the most laughable comments of the year. Deledio is the fastest player in the comp. He has proven it in the GF sprint.
You have a short memory. Deledio was winning games for us last year whilst Buddy was still working out how to kick straight. Remember Polo gave him a towelling once and he is not
exactly one of our quickest.
Deledio's form this season up until last night was actually pretty solid. This is our only thrashing so far and after some serious soul searching, I'm prepared to keep the faith and for the rest of the season I won't be watching the scoreboard, I'll be watching the young tigers like Edwards, Connors, Riewoldt, King, JON, Hughes & Thirsty get some serious gametime and turn into exciting prospects for seasons to come.
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I won't be watching the scoreboard
I havent watched it for 10 years now :lol
Seriously, its time for our Coaching staff, president etc to start looking forward and stop going back on the past.
Spud correctly summed it up on Footy Classified tonight, you cant keep looking in the rear view mirror.
Most of the players on the list have been drafted during Terry's time @ Richmond. Terry and Miller have been associated with 3 drafts and we would have cut atleast 25 players over the last 3 years.
Any other players that werent drafted by Wallace would have come out of contract during his time at Punt Road and if they werent good enough they should have been shown the door.
I am not saying that Terry should be sacked but he has performed poorly in his role at Richmond in relation to us moving forward. This may be as a result of Terry not spending enough time concentrating on his coaching.
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Hold on, Franklin got picked at 5, Tambling 4.
Nothing to do with Lids ::)
we should have picked buddy at pick one!!!! not lids
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Hold on, Franklin got picked at 5, Tambling 4.
Nothing to do with Lids ::)
Here here.
And personally I reckon we made the right choice
Everyone is getting on Buddy's bandwagon. Reports suggested at the time that there were risk with Franklin.
The day Buddy at his size starts taking some contested marks and getting a few contested possessions I'll start paying attention to him
he won contested ball v the bombers, and did it easy and only bagged a lazy 9
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buddy is 6'5, 6'6 as fast if not faster than deledio and is a matchwinner
:o :o :rollin :rollin
Sorry X, this has to be one of the most laughable comments of the year. Deledio is the fastest player in the comp. He has proven it in the GF sprint.
You have a short memory. Deledio was winning games for us last year whilst Buddy was still working out how to kick straight. Remember Polo gave him a towelling once and he is not
exactly one of our quickest.
Deledio's form this season up until last night was actually pretty solid. This is our only thrashing so far and after some serious soul searching, I'm prepared to keep the faith and for the rest of the season I won't be watching the scoreboard, I'll be watching the young tigers like Edwards, Connors, Riewoldt, King, JON, Hughes & Thirsty get some serious gametime and turn into exciting prospects for seasons to come.
deledio has never won a game for us cos of his brilliance
and also , he is not the fastest in the afl, thats bs, he isnt even the fastest at richmond. many have said that moore and jon are faster and atm foley is faster than lids.
btw, if lids is that quick, why cant he use his pace to shake a tag, Geez, ling kept up with him and ran off him, ling isnt fast but he made lids look slow
whats laughable is how can such a quick player only lay 7 tackles so far, how many has judd got this yr, and whats laughable is that he could not run off ling
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How many seasons has Judd and Ling done compared to Lids? ::)
And you know what, if I saw the way my team mates were playing Sunday night, not trying, showing no effort etc, I wouldn't want to bother either... I mean what's the point of having a good 3 or 4 players on the field when the other team has 18+
It's a team effort and only a handful of our players were trying, IMO.
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excuses, judd has been a goer since day 1, deledio is a passenger and never worked hard to earn his spot, unlike say a polo
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I won't be watching the scoreboard
Seriously, its time for our Coaching staff, president etc to start looking forward and stop going back on the past.
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Spud correctly summed it up on Footy Classified tonight, you cant keep looking in the rear view mirror.
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Most of the players on the list have been drafted during Terry's time @ Richmond. Terry and Miller have been associated with 3 drafts and we would have cut atleast 25 players over the last 3 years.
Any other players that werent drafted by Wallace would have come out of contract during his time at Punt Road and if they werent good enough they should have been shown the door.
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I am not saying that Terry should be sacked but he has performed poorly in his role at Richmond in relation to us moving forward. This may be as a result of Terry not spending enough time concentrating on his coaching.
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the people who have been sticking the boots in have been proven correct again! Nothing ever changes- the brightsiders those who live in fantasy land have once again been proven wrong and those who live in reality, people like Jacko have been proven correct again.
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the people who have been sticking the boots in have been proven correct again! Nothing ever changes- the brightsiders those who live in fantasy land have once again been proven wrong and those who live in reality, people like Jacko have been proven correct again.
Who cares?
I don't care if Jackstar, X or Bull have got it right. They aren't in a position to change anything!
We need TW, Miller and the 22 that go out on on Friday night to get it right, it's the only thing that matters!
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the people who have been sticking the boots in have been proven correct again! Nothing ever changes- the brightsiders those who live in fantasy land have once again been proven wrong and those who live in reality, people like Jacko have been proven correct again.
Who cares?
I don't care if Jackstar, X or Bull have got it right. They aren't in a position to change anything!
We need TW, Miller and the 22 that go out on on Friday night to get it right, it's the only thing that matters!
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Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but just slagging off the club and players/staff for the sake of it or your own ego doesn't sit with me and really shows a lack of intelligence as far as I am concerned.
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the people who have been sticking the boots in have been proven correct again! Nothing ever changes- the brightsiders those who live in fantasy land have once again been proven wrong and those who live in reality, people like Jacko have been proven correct again.
Wrong. Only the RFC nihilists have been proven right. Every solution has been proven wrong and every alternative solution has also been proven wrong. Get Richmond people, get outsiders, get this assistant coach, sack that coach, it the players' fault, it's the coach, it's the board, etc. All proven wrong! You are all wrong because you think there is an alternative that will make things right. (Not surprisingly, this means that I am the only one who is right - welcome to planet Piping Shrike.) The competition today makes teams like RFC irrelevant at the end of the season. It doesn't matter what you do, the best you can aim for is the odd appearance in weeks 1 and 2 of the finals. Why do you think the AFL spends so much time promoting these special rounds during the year? Because the Victorian product collapses each September. Only the first division teams matter by then.
My solution? Get Richmond people, get outsiders, get this assistant coach, sack that coach, it the players' fault, it's the coach, it's the board, etc. Do all of those things, whatever pleases you! In the meantime I'll just enjoy whatever good moments arise, and some years there'll be more than others.
Cheerio. :cheers
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The competition today makes teams like RFC irrelevant at the end of the season. It doesn't matter what you do, the best you can aim for is the odd appearance in weeks 1 and 2 of the finals. Why do you think the AFL spends so much time promoting these special rounds during the year? Because the Victorian product collapses each September. Only the first division teams matter by then.
My solution? Get Richmond people, get outsiders, get this assistant coach, sack that coach, it the players' fault, it's the coach, it's the board, etc. Do all of those things, whatever pleases you! In the meantime I'll just enjoy whatever good moments arise, and some years there'll be more than others.
Cheerio. :cheers
Piping, I sympathise with those thoughts, very very much, bring back the VFL I say, however that is not going to happen.
Even though we are coming off one of the biggest hidings in the history of the game there is no reason that this young mob can't bounce back.
There is no reason why this crop of young players coming through can't be the best in the land. They have got a unique chance to be the ones that break this interstate dominance. They could be one of the first sides that bounce back from a hiding like this and won the next week.
Anything is possible. The interstate clubs have not got a stranglehold on this!
Let's not complicate things, there's 18 blokes on a footy field, give them one job, that is to beat your opponent.
The Dallas Mavericks, after a near record breaking season, got knocked out of the NBA last week by the 8th best team who had a mere 50% win loss.
Anything can happen!
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We should be looking forward but the senior core we should have coming through now doesn't exist and that's all thanks to Spud. 20 year olds don't form your core group. Our list was decimated. If people expected us to turn it around in 2 and a bit years then they are living in fairyland. Not hard to be right about that. It's just going to take 5 years to just get the list back into some sort of balance.
As for Franklin he is very good but he has yet to do anything against a top side. To say he is now better than Jonathan Brown, Riewoldt, Fevola, Lloyd, etc as those in the media are now saying is laughable. Hawthorn's improvement is coming from most of their players who are now entering reaching 22-25 age bracket - Hodge, Mitchell, Bateman, Brown, Clarke, Gilham, Ladson, Sewell, Osbourne, Boyle, Campbell, Taylor, Williams. We don't have that. We are at least 1-2 years behind them in that regard.
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As for Franklin he is very good but he has yet to do anything against a top side. To say he is now better than Jonathan Brown, Riewoldt, Fevola, Lloyd, etc as those in the media are now saying is laughable.
Actually he normally goes missing against the top sides. But that's OK because he is gonna be the greatest palyer of the next decade (G Healy said so)
But then again he maybe on par with reiwoldt (nick) ;D
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As much as i am peeed about the current position of the team. The one thing that does annoy me is the constant comparison between the players like Deledio and Tambling, Griffen, Roughead, Franklin etc.
Its always going to happen and they wont always be RFC players i suppose but some players will blossom faster than others.
Clearly Lids was the number 1 choice at the time of the draft and i clearly remember Franklin having a lot of bad press about his attitude and commitment to being in Melbourne.
After seeing the highlights of the Ess/Hawks game, sure he played a great game but he had a hell of a lot of luck. I reckon a stuff of 20 birds must have poo on him before the game. Lucky bounces etc gave him the chance to obtain a fair few of his goals. To his credit he made the most of it.
At the end of the day Buddy may turn out to be the best player from that draft, who knows at this stage. I reckon you will need to wait another 5 years to determine that.
I just hope that Lids and Tambo gain that detetmination and drive to be the best.