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Title: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 12, 2007, 06:00:53 PM
OK even though my gut feeling is that terry will be axed at yrs end, if he has any kinda balls about he must do this

drop tiv and krak for good!
drop hyde for good
drop white forever
drop richo and tell him exactly the same as what he told gaspar, richo is finished
      he has to reinvent himself in order to keep his spot and contribute
drop mguane for good


he must play deledio in the forward half and forward half only
he must play JON in his best position and run, why not play him off the hbf as he does for the burgers
must persist with cleve
must bring in jack
keep king just for his tenacity
keep patto in the ruck, i thought he competed really well v the best
and tell raines he is on notice
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: bluey_21 on May 12, 2007, 06:27:06 PM
Changes need to be made but some of the propositions you've thrown up are just crazy.

Tivendale should never have been brought back, Edwards is young, has more skill and has more guts than Tivas. Should be banished to the 2nds for the rest of the year IMO.
Krak, Hyde need to be given a good long spell in the 2nds.

McGuane should not be dropped
The kids should be brought in.
Jack should be in and Hughes switched to the backline.
Lids must be up forward and occasionally in the midfield.
Edwards and Meyer must be given opportunity.
JON needs to play off halfback
Connors and Casserly need to be given a taste of senior footy.
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: bluey_21 on May 12, 2007, 06:28:39 PM
reality hurts and julz just cant handle that richo is not any good for us anymore

Disagree, Richo still has value just not up forward. Needs to be allowed to roam between defensive 50 and forward 50.
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 12, 2007, 06:32:10 PM
not fwd not back , not in the ruck no where

as i said, richo must reinvent himself or give it up
he has been crap this yr and thats fact
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: Stephanie on May 12, 2007, 06:49:59 PM
not fwd not back , not in the ruck no where

as i said, richo must reinvent himself or give it up
he has been crap this yr and thats fact

Umm hello?
We had no-one else to play in the ruck... Patto would not have lasted all day.
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: Ramps on May 12, 2007, 07:00:32 PM
Terry should send a letter to the AFL telling them that we are forfeiting :help
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: Tigermonk on May 12, 2007, 08:20:26 PM
Terry should send a letter to the AFL telling them that we are forfeiting :help

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: bluey_21 on May 12, 2007, 08:23:35 PM
Terry should send a letter to the AFL telling them that we are forfeiting :help

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

That for sure is going to help :whistle
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: 1965 on May 12, 2007, 08:50:29 PM
Terry should send a letter to the AFL telling them that we are forfeiting :help

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

The kids need to experience the pain and see the effort involved in making it to the top.

Lots of hard work ahead of them, some won't make it but even those that don't are more talented than most of you and me.

 :gotigers
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: mightytiges on May 12, 2007, 11:40:18 PM
Krak shouldn't have come in.

I've got a feeling Tivs will stay in because he got a fair bit of it even though he tries kicking the leather off worm burners and turns it over. Hyde and White will probably be dropped before him.

Richo is safe even if he had a off day. He looked gone by quarter time. Just didn't have his usual zip. Patto made a contest in the ruck too but looked like a Benny Gale when he was young with a slow turning circle.

They'll persist with McGaune at least until Thursty is ready. It's a nightmare playing in our backline with the ball coming down so easily.

Rainesy is trying too hard to create run and carry all the time. Needs to be a bit more patient at times and be aware of the game around him so he doesn't run himself in to trouble. Still safe IMO.

Agree about Lids. What a waste on the last line of defence.
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 13, 2007, 07:31:09 AM
Gotta say it was a ong day yesterday but this has bought a smile to my face....

We better just drop drop 'em all X don't ya think ::)


drop tiv and krak for good!

I wouldn't drop Tiv in yesterday's game - now don't know how looked on the TV but his work rate off the ball was exceptional - was one of our best.

Krak looked good in the frist and then went ...well... er.. walkabout


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drop hyde for good

Been saying for week he needed to be dropped - yesterday re-inforced that but for good - :-\

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drop white forever


On what grounds? Bizzarre

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drop richo and tell him exactly the same as what he told gaspar, richo is finished
      he has to reinvent himself in order to keep his spot and contribute

Given Richo's work rate yesterday - I'll take another 10 of him please. If ever player on the field put in like he did yesterday then .......

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drop mguane for good

Sorry X this one borders on the ridiculous! The improvement  in this kid in 2007 has been staggering. Had a bad one yesterday but considering most of our guys have been having "bad ones" all season then to single out Luke is well ...er.. strange

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he must play deledio in the forward half and forward half only



The one thing that was obvious yesterday is the kids confidence is down and as a result he tried to hard to do everything right. But I will give the kid a massive tick yesterday - he tried bloody hard to turn things around

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he must play JON in his best position and run, why not play him off the hbf as he does for the burgers

Totally agree here  :thumbsup

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must persist with cleve


Yeah perhaps but Cleve gotta learn to apply some defensive pressure on in the F50

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must bring in jack
keep king just for his tenacity
keep patto in the ruck, i thought he competed really well v the best

Yeap Jack deserve his chance now.

Jake King - his 1%ers are the thing that stands out in his play. the blocks (legal ;D), the shepherds etc

Patto - would have learnt alot yesterday. A ruckman he aint and I thought yesterday he should just scarifcied his own game and stood Lade toe to toe. Lade got to manyt cheap posessions because Patto was 10-15 metres away

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and tell raines he is on notice

 :-\ :rollin :-\
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 13, 2007, 07:45:59 AM
i hope next coach we have next yr is more ruthless than the crap that has lead us in recent times.

richo spent at quarter time spare me

patto did a great job in the ruck and could have done it alone, whenever richo went in the middle we got smashed patto competed like a true tiger!

raines should be on notice, he is getting away with just sheer stupidity, he plays and trys to do things that he just cant do and runs into trouble

i dont care how hard tiv works off the ball, the facts are 75% of teh time he gets it he butchers it, the more he gets it the better for the oppposition, he is a liablity and its too dangerous for us to play him.

jack is right about mguane, and all this rubbish about his improvement is a toss, if he  had improved so much why didnt he start on damon white and play on teh ground and not start on the bench, terry wallace is at fault there but he must have no faith in mguane and white made leds look likke a pick 100 not 1, its not lids fault

richo, if he was spent by quarter time , that confuses me as he did absolutely nothing in that quarter, and 2nd quarter, and 3rd quarter. in that case rest him next week, just crap on some spin and say he has back soreness again. let patto ruck the whole game out, he is meant to have a huge tank, give him a job and i bet he will try his guts out

maybe we should drop the whole team or at least 75% of te team and start from scratch
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: ilovelids on May 13, 2007, 10:45:41 AM
just wondering...
i was talking to a friend of mine who has big ties at the tigers and he was telling me alot of the players arnt playing well because their not happy and want to move clubs, im not sure i think its true but it made me think maybe the players dont like terry&co. we have the talet in some young players but their just not reaching their potential. maybe it's because they hate the coaching staff? what do you guys think?  :-*
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: Ramps on May 13, 2007, 11:34:02 AM
depends who wants to quit...if there the players who arent up to it then theyll get shown the door and if there kids then they may only have to wait till the end of the season for the changes especially if the club has found the cash to make the payouts.
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: wayne on May 13, 2007, 05:58:47 PM
Krak shouldn't have come in.

I've got a feeling Tivs will stay in because he got a fair bit of it even though he tries kicking the leather off worm burners and turns it over. Hyde and White will probably be dropped before him.

Richo is safe even if he had a off day. He looked gone by quarter time. Just didn't have his usual zip. Patto made a contest in the ruck too but looked like a Benny Gale when he was young with a slow turning circle.

They'll persist with McGaune at least until Thursty is ready. It's a nightmare playing in our backline with the ball coming down so easily.

Rainesy is trying too hard to create run and carry all the time. Needs to be a bit more patient at times and be aware of the game around him so he doesn't run himself in to trouble. Still safe IMO.

Agree about Lids. What a waste on the last line of defence.

Tivs might get so much of the ball because the opposition may allow it. They isolate him like they did with Gaspar.

After Patto got caned in the first 3-4 centre taps, he then just focussed on the ball and was actually good.

McGuane looks promising in the backline, so he plays in the forward line this week???

Raines just needs to slow down and use his head a bit more.
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: Tigermonk on May 14, 2007, 10:56:39 AM


Tivs might get so much of the ball because the opposition may allow it. They isolate him like they did with Gaspar.

After Patto got caned in the first 3-4 centre taps, he then just focussed on the ball and was actually good.

McGuane looks promising in the backline, so he plays in the forward line this week???

Raines just needs to slow down and use his head a bit more.

Now here is someone watching footy good post
Yep run off Tivendale he gets the ball is spooked & turns in over his man is receiving it & delivers for a goal setup everytime get rid of him his lost the plot long ago needs to learn his basics again of being a AFL footballer
Patto needs to be played every week & be supported by Simmonds not vice versa as Patto can play football he is being watched by the Hawks l been told this
McGuane plays good in the backline but goes to forward this is stupity by the coach who has lost the plot
Raines has abilty to gather the ball & run & delivers it, l like to see more of this type of football & like to see him built up more & become a hard hitting centreman who can crunch players
retire a weak Johnson & give the captaincy to someone who knows how to use it because leadership is at a low he learnt nothing at Adelaide he was a passenger of superior players
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: cub on May 14, 2007, 11:07:34 AM
Stay off the box - I know part of the reason we got Wallace was to sell the club, but the way we are travelling atm it is like trying to sell a used condom.
Concentrate on the side and the youngsters more, then in a couple of years you will be able to sell condoms to the religious right Christians.  :rollin
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 14, 2007, 11:16:55 AM
Stay off the box - I know part of the reason we got Wallace was to sell the club, but the way we are travelling atm it is like trying to sell a used condom.
Concentrate on the side and the youngsters more, then in a couple of years you will be able to sell condoms to the religious right Christians.  :rollin

hey im a catholic and i use condoms that are endorsed by the catholic church. the pope stamps them with a hole punch as soon as he inspects and aproves them
 :ROTFL
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: Tigermonk on May 14, 2007, 11:24:29 AM
Stay off the box - I know part of the reason we got Wallace was to sell the club, but the way we are travelling atm it is like trying to sell a used condom.
Concentrate on the side and the youngsters more, then in a couple of years you will be able to sell condoms to the religious right Christians.  :rollin

hey im a catholic and i use condoms that are endorsed by the catholic church. the pope stamps them with a hole punch as soon as he inspects and aproves them
 :ROTFL

 :rollin  :rollin Now X thats true how are all your little ones
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 14, 2007, 11:26:28 AM
Stay off the box - I know part of the reason we got Wallace was to sell the club, but the way we are travelling atm it is like trying to sell a used condom.
Concentrate on the side and the youngsters more, then in a couple of years you will be able to sell condoms to the religious right Christians.  :rollin

hey im a catholic and i use condoms that are endorsed by the catholic church. the pope stamps them with a hole punch as soon as he inspects and aproves them
 :ROTFL

 :rollin  :rollin Now X thats true how are all your little ones

all good but have a dose of the tiger depressions
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: Tigermonk on May 14, 2007, 11:31:39 AM
Stay off the box - I know part of the reason we got Wallace was to sell the club, but the way we are travelling atm it is like trying to sell a used condom.
Concentrate on the side and the youngsters more, then in a couple of years you will be able to sell condoms to the religious right Christians.  :rollin

hey im a catholic and i use condoms that are endorsed by the catholic church. the pope stamps them with a hole punch as soon as he inspects and aproves them
 :ROTFL

 :rollin  :rollin Now X thats true how are all your little ones

all good but have a dose of the tiger depressions

mate thats terrible you better take them to see a specialist they had that since they were born
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 14, 2007, 11:34:59 AM
Stay off the box - I know part of the reason we got Wallace was to sell the club, but the way we are travelling atm it is like trying to sell a used condom.
Concentrate on the side and the youngsters more, then in a couple of years you will be able to sell condoms to the religious right Christians.  :rollin

hey im a catholic and i use condoms that are endorsed by the catholic church. the pope stamps them with a hole punch as soon as he inspects and aproves them
 :ROTFL

 :rollin  :rollin Now X thats true how are all your little ones

all good but have a dose of the tiger depressions

mate thats terrible you better take them to see a specialist they had that since they were born

i will do what i always do, bring out the 1980 premiership video and bluff than that that was us 2 yrs ago and we will be there again soon! lol

that video gets everyone happy again
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: Tigermonk on May 14, 2007, 11:47:17 AM
mate thats what l used to do with my young ones
l used to put the Essendon Premiership games on & turn the TV to Black & White that tricks them

a good thought  :rollin
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: tigersalive on May 14, 2007, 12:40:42 PM
OK even though my gut feeling is that terry will be axed at yrs end, if he has any kinda balls about he must do this

drop tiv and krak for good! - Yup
drop hyde for good - Yeppish
drop white forever - Tough on the kid X.  He's done good things and still maturing.
drop richo and tell him exactly the same as what he told gaspar, richo is finished
      he has to reinvent himself in order to keep his spot and contribute - Richo does need to re-invent himself and is trying.  We need to keep Clever and Schulz at CHF and FF for sure.
drop mguane for good - McGuane for good? Tough again like White, not for good but for a few weeks, needs a much bigger build.


he must play deledio in the forward half and forward half only- Agree, back line isnt for him.  Could be a star even on the wing, the kid needs space to run and make plays, that's his strong point.
he must play JON in his best position and run, why not play him off the hbf as he does for the burgers - He'll be dropped this week for sure, hopefully show again why he's so dominant at Coburg and come back in for dreamtime on that HBF.
must persist with cleve - Spot on, only way he'll learn properly.  Re: Buddy.
must bring in jack - Yup, the kid will actually create some talk, spark and controversy.  Oh and might kick a few goals.  :D  ;)
keep king just for his tenacity - Yup need that gritty back pocket for now, not sure he'll ever make it senior list but he's doing himself no damage to his chances.  Love his hardness, seems to get under players skin.
keep patto in the ruck, i thought he competed really well v the best.  - After the first couple of contests on Saturday Patto settled very well against the 2007 AA ruckman.  I liked his endevour, he makes a few silly mistakes but follows up very very well in second efforts.  I see real potential in him.
and tell raines he is on notice - Still got a niggling injury which is why RFC should bite the bullet and tell him to take a week or 2 off to get it right and then a game in the Burgers to get back into rhythm.
My thoughts in red.
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 14, 2007, 12:49:33 PM
fair enough enough points too! maybe i am a bit harsh on richo, i just feel he is having a poor season and should do more

re/ white and mguane......i just dont see them as future grade afl players, imo, they just have the package
Still got a niggling injury which is why RFC should bite the bullet and tell him to take a week or 2 off to get it right and then a game in the Burgers to get back into rhythm.

i agree with raines, but am not aware of his unjury what is it, and if teh case he should not play. playing guys that are not 100% is just not on, this goes for sugar too
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: tigersalive on May 14, 2007, 01:09:45 PM
fair enough enough points too! maybe i am a bit harsh on richo, i just feel he is having a poor season and should do more

re/ white and mguane......i just dont see them as future grade afl players, imo, they just have the package
Still got a niggling injury which is why RFC should bite the bullet and tell him to take a week or 2 off to get it right and then a game in the Burgers to get back into rhythm.

i agree with raines, but am not aware of his unjury what is it, and if teh case he should not play. playing guys that are not 100% is just not on, this goes for sugar too

I'm not entirely aware of Raines' injury except it's a leg problem that has been on-going all year which is causing him problems changing directions etc. He needs to get it right.
Hard to say with sugar because the injury is not effecting him as much as it is with Raines, Sugar did a super job on Burgoyne on the weekend.

I think the reason Richo is having a poor season is because Terry has put him out into the cold and he now needs to learn how to play away from goals.  Let;s hope it'll come right for him.
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: letsgetiton! on May 14, 2007, 03:01:37 PM
cheers TA
Title: Re: WHAT TERRY MUST DO FOR NEXT WEEK!
Post by: mightytiges on May 14, 2007, 06:17:01 PM
I'm not entirely aware of Raines' injury except it's a leg problem that has been on-going all year which is causing him problems changing directions etc. He needs to get it right.
Rainesy doesn't do full sessions at training because of it. IIRC it's some niggle in his knee or thereabouts.