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Football => Match reports and stats => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 12, 2007, 06:18:24 PM
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Another loss, but Tigers show promise
richmondfc.com.au
Saturday, May 12, 2007
RICHMOND has avoided another thrashing with an encouraging second-half performance in its 40-point loss against Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium.
The Tigers outscored the Power, five goals to two, in the last quarter of the 16.19 (115) to 10.15 (75) loss.
Brett Deledio, Matthew Richardson, Jay Schulz and Kayne Pettifer all finished with two goals as Richmond won the second half by two points.
Nathan Foley continued his excellent form, winning 30 possessions around the ground, while fellow youngsters Cam Howat and Dean Polo also found plenty of the footy.
Earlier, Port Adelaide set the win up by kicking five unanswered goals in the second term to lead by 43 points at the main break.
Brendon Lade and Damon White starred, sharing five goals, while Peter Burgoyne and Kane Cornes (27 touches) dominated around the clearances.
http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=43069
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Team stats
Kicks: 217 - 191
Handballs: 124 - 139
Disposals: 341 - 330
Marks: 144 - 103
Hitouts: 16 - 34
Tackles: 35 - 31
Frees: 10 - 14
Individual stats
Player Kicks Handballs Marks Frees Tackles Score
1 2 3 4 T 1 2 3 4 T 1 2 3 4 T For Ag G B
FOLEY,Nathan 4 3 6 2 15 4 1 5 5 15 0 0 3 0 3 1 0 0 0 0
TIVENDALE,Greg 7 2 3 8 20 0 2 2 4 8 2 1 2 4 9 0 0 2 0 3
HOWAT,Cameron 3 5 4 5 17 1 1 3 2 7 1 3 3 1 8 1 1 5 0 0
POLO,Dean 1 3 2 1 7 2 4 5 5 16 1 3 2 1 7 1 2 4 0 1
BOWDEN,Joel 2 8 7 2 19 1 0 0 2 3 1 6 4 2 13 0 1 2 0 0
DELEDIO,Brett 3 6 5 4 18 3 0 1 0 4 5 5 3 4 17 0 0 4 2 1
TUCK,Shane 6 1 3 3 13 1 3 3 2 9 3 3 2 1 9 0 0 3 1 0
KING,Jake 3 6 3 2 14 2 1 1 3 7 1 6 2 2 11 1 2 3 0 0
JOHNSON,Kane 7 3 0 1 11 1 1 4 3 9 3 2 0 0 5 2 2 1 0 0
RAINES,Andrew 2 3 3 2 10 1 3 4 2 10 1 2 4 1 8 0 0 0 0 0
NEWMAN,Chris 5 1 3 3 12 3 0 2 0 5 2 0 2 0 4 0 0 1 0 0
PETTIFER,Kayne 4 3 2 7 16 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 2 5 9 0 0 2 2 3
HYDE,Chris 0 2 2 3 7 2 2 0 1 5 0 1 1 1 3 1 3 1 0 2
POLAK,Graham 1 4 2 1 8 1 1 1 0 3 1 2 2 1 6 1 0 1 1 0
PATTISON,Adam 2 1 0 0 3 2 2 2 2 8 2 2 1 1 6 1 1 0 0 1
WHITE,Matt 0 2 1 0 3 3 0 0 2 5 3 2 0 0 5 0 0 0 0 0
RICHARDSON,Matthew 0 3 1 2 6 0 0 0 1 1 0 2 1 2 5 1 0 1 2 0
SCHULZ,Jay 1 1 2 2 6 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 2 2 6 0 0 1 2 1
KRAKOUER,Andrew 2 1 1 0 4 3 0 0 0 3 1 1 1 0 3 0 0 0 0 0
HUGHES,Cleve 2 1 0 0 3 0 1 0 2 3 2 1 0 0 3 0 0 1 0 1
MCGUANE,Luke 0 2 1 0 3 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 2 0 1 1 0 0
OAKLEY-NICHOLLS,Jarrad 0 1 1 0 2 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 0 2 0 1 2 0 0
Rushed 2
TOTAL 55 62 52 48 217 31 23 33 37 124 31 46 39 28 144 10 14 35 10 15
HITOUTS: 16
50m PENALTIES: 1
GOALS: Free 0; Play 2; Mark 8
DISTANCE OF GOALS: 0-15m 2; 15-30m 1; 30-40m 2; 40+m 5
Top 5's
Rankings
K.Cornes 156
D.White 155
Lade 143
J.Bowden 138
Deledio 127
Contested possessions
Cassisi 10
C.Cornes 9
K.Cornes 9
Foley 9
Lade 7
Uncontested possessions
Tivendale 25
Foley 22
P.Burgoyne 21
J.Bowden 21
C.Cornes 19
Effective kicks
J.Bowden 19
Tivendale 16
Deledio 16
P.Burgoyne 15
C.Cornes 15
Inside 50
Tivendale 8
P.Burgoyne 6
Foley 5
Pettifer 5
Pearce 5
Rebound 50
Deledio 7
Newman 5
C.Cornes 4
Tuck 4
K.Cornes 4
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Team stats
Rankings
K.Cornes 156
D.White 155
Lade 143
J.Bowden 138
Deledio 127
Great effort Lids :clapping but need to start to string together several good games
Effective kicks
J.Bowden 19
Tivendale 16
Deledio 16
P.Burgoyne 15
C.Cornes 15
How could we not dominate this, all that kicking behind play :rollin
Inside 50
Tivendale 8
P.Burgoyne 6
Foley 5
Pettifer 5
Pearce 5
Tivendale 8 inside 50's, 0 impact
Rebound 50
Deledio 7
Newman 5
C.Cornes 4
Tuck 4
K.Cornes 4
Bound to get a few of these with the amount of times the ball went in
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PORT ADELAIDE 5.4 10.10 14.16 16.19 (115)
RICHMOND 3.2 3.9 5.12 10.15 (75)
GOALS
Port Adelaide: B Lade 3 D White 2 D Rodan 2 D Motlop 2 D Pearce 2 S Burgoyne P Burgoyne K Cornes N Lonie W Tredrea.
Richmond: J Schulz 2 K Pettifer 2 M Richardson 2 B Deledio 2 G Polak S Tuck.
BEST
Port Adelaide: B Lade D White K Cornes C Cornes P Burgoyne D Pearce D Cassisi.
Richmond: N Foley K Johnson J Bowden G Tivendale B Deledio.
Umpires: L Farmer B Rosebury S Grun
Official crowd: 26,232 at AAMI Stadium
http://richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=43069
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Richmond: N Foley K Johnson J Bowden G Tivendale B Deledio.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
I must have been watching a different game
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Power repels deficient Tigers
foxsports.com.au
May 12, 2007
PORT Adelaide barely broke into a canter but still disposed of a valiant but class-deficient Richmond by 40 points in a low intensity match at AAMI Stadium today.
Coasting on the back of Brendon Lade's commanding display in the ruck and up forward, Power were never headed, leading by as much as 58 points in term three before easing off in the last for a 16.19 (115) to 10.15 (75) win.
Mercifully for its supporters, Richmond never gave Power enough latitude for a repeat of the 157-point thumping administered by Geelong last week, but there was always an air of inevitability about the result once Port notched two goals within three minutes of the first bounce.
Lade (three goals) towered over the contest, and tall forward Damon White (two) was similarly dominant, while Kane and Chad Cornes and Peter Burgoyne also did their bit.
Nathan Foley, captain Kane Johnson and Joel Bowden all fought hard for the outmatched visitors.
Club and supporter demands for a competitive Tigers performance were appeased in the first term, the visitors staying level with the Power for much of the time via some opportunist work by Kayne Pettifer and Graham Polak.
However Power slowly began to exert its advantage, particularly via the smarts of Lade and the strength of key forward White, and Port's lead grew to four goals before Terry Wallace decreed his players attempt to slow the tempo.
It worked - for about three minutes - until Port upped its level of run and stretched the margin to 43 points at halftime without breaking into much of a sweat.
Both sides began the second half in sleepy fashion, Kane Cornes and Jay Schulz trading goals and a fine set shot by Shane Tuck cutting the gap to 38.
But as was the case in the first two terms, Power launched into a burst of pressure and pace to nab three goals in five minutes entering time-on and stayed well clear.
The first three quarters today made it 10 since Richmond had won one - the first against West Coast three weeks ago - but Port's half-throttle approach allowed the Tigers the consolation of winning the fourth.
AAP
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,8659,21719004-23209,00.html
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Power surge past timid Tigers
Adam McBride
sportsaustralia.com
Saturday May 12, 2007
Port Adelaide 16.19 (115) def. Richmond 10.15 (75)
PORT ADELAIDE remains entrenched inside the top two following their impressive 40-point victory over Richmond at AAMI Stadium on Saturday afternoon.
The Power, sporting a special one-off guernsey for the day as part of the Come Out Arts Festival, led from start to finish despite the Tigers fighting back twice to draw level during the first quarter.
Meanwhile, it was a dark day for the Tigers, who have now entered the record books for the worst ever start to a season by the club, surpassing their previous worst of six straight set back in 1962.
However, the Tigers did fight out the match in the fourth term with encouraging signs in outscoring the home side with five majors to two, but typically the damage was done in the first three quarters.
Kane Cornes and Peter Burgoyne both topped the Port Adelaide disposal list with 27 each, while Chad Cornes and Domenic Cassisi were amongst the leaders with 26 and 23 touches respectively.
However, injury concerns for the Power with Damon White straining a hamstring late in the third quarter. Peter Burgoyne had earlier shrugged off any concerns to return to the field and play a pivotal role in the Power midfield dominance.
Versatile ruckman Brendon Lade, who booted the first goal of the match, finished with three goals, while regular forward and skipper Warren Tredrea was kept quiet and down to just one second quarter major.
However, White along with former Tiger David Rodan, Shaun Burgoyne and Daniel Motlop all stepped up for the home side and provided plenty of scoring avenues.
Richmond, who were poised to be on the receiving end of more unwanted records following the hiding they copped last Sunday to Geelong, were served well in defeat by Nathan Foley (30 disposals), Greg Tivendale (28) and Cameron Howat (24 touches).
Jay Schulz provided a worthy target in the forward line and booted two goals, however he lacked support with regular forward Matthew Richardson, rookie Cleve Hughes both restricted to onlookers by a ruthless Power defence.
Brett Deledio and Richardson were fourth quarter targets and both slotted through two majors each as the Tigers fought back from a 58-point three-quarter time deficit.
Next week, Port Adelaide ventures to Sydney for a Sunday match with the Swans, while Richmond returns to Adelaide for a Friday night clash with the Crows.
Richmond
Goals: J Schulz 2, K Pettifer 2, M Richardson 2, B Deledio 2, G Polak, S Tuck
Best: N Foley, G Tivendale, B Deledio, C Howat
Injuries: nil
Reports: nil
http://www.sportsaustralia.com/articles/news.php?id=1278
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Best: N Foley, G Tivendale, B Deledio, C Howat
Once again what game are these reporters watching
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Best: N Foley, G Tivendale, B Deledio, C Howat
Once again what game are these reporters watching
agree that there were quite a few times during the match when i was just shaking my head at tivendale.......looks like the reporters look at stats more rather than the actual game itself....since it looks like tivendale did quite well in the effective kicks department (dispite his many clangers esp early in the game) and also lead the inside 50 count....
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Tigers fight, but Port too classy
Ashley Porter | May 13, 2007
The Age
PREDICTABLY, given its public baking in one of its worst weeks on record, Richmond ran on to AAMI Stadium yesterday afternoon all fired up, but it could raise only a few flickers of hope for its dejected fans.
Matthew Richardson played in ruck, the Tigers won the second half, and their approach was admirable, but ultimately there was no other news to write home about. Richmond was just not good enough.
Given their standings on the ladder — 2nd versus 16th — Port Adelaide was expected to win, as it did comfortably by 40 points.
Port was ready for the Tigers' response to their humiliation last week, and for most part performed like a second-ranked side against a now regular loser.
There was nothing wrong with the basics of the Tigers' game plan. Terry Wallace had his players playing one-on-one — perhaps as a means of being more accountable — and they showed their spirit remains alive.
The statistics will highlight Port's strengths around the ground, including its better efficiency moving into attack, but the telling factor was Richmond's gross inexperience.
Port is hardly an old campaigner, but it had five more players with more than 50 games' experience. There were numerous occasions when the young Tigers set up a forward thrust and backed their own ability. Unfortunately, not all of them had the skills to match their tenacity, but at least they had the will to improve.
Six of Richmond's top 10 possession winners were among those with fewer than 50 games experience — Nathan Foley (30 disposals), Cameron Howat (24), Dean Polo (23), Brett Deledio (22), Jake King (21) and Andrew Raines (20).
The Power fed off Richmond's skill errors unmercifully, with half of its goals courtesy of opposition errors, a fact noted by Wallace.
"Every time we made an error they managed to kick a goal out of it," Wallace lamented. "It hurts, especially when you are away from home, and you kick seven points in the second quarter you go in at half-time with a little bit of a sniff rather than the margin being opened up."
The use of Richardson in ruck, switching from his regular full-forward spot, was generally ineffective. Richardson kicked two goals, but offered no great attack on the ball or in the forward line.
However, it wasn't an easy task for Richmond's few talls with Port strengthened by the return of Dean Brogan, and having Brendon Lade (three goals) again causing havoc up forward.
Port won comfortably, but at times had to work hard for possessions, as Port coach Mark Williams anticipated before the game.
"To think at the start of the game we'd have won by 40 points … we were quite anxious about the game so it was a great result for us," Williams said.
While happy with the win, Williams said there was room for improvement.
"We didn't play exactly how we'd like to," he said. "We're moving ahead along that way and we'll continue to look forward to that challenge to get better at it."
Port's depth is something Williams can lean on as it mounts that challenge. Yesterday its depth continually hurt the Tigers.
When Peter and Shaun Burgoyne weren't in control, Danyle Pearce and Daniel Motlop came to the fore. And then it was Kane Cornes, and so on.
David Rodan was also impressive against his old club, while Darryl Wakelin, 33 in August, showed there is still some quality football left in him.
Richmond was outplayed, but unlike last week against Geelong, it battled gamely until the end.
The Richmond players ran through a banner stating: "Today you have the honour of wearing a Richmond jumper. Wear it with pride". They did, but it was just not enough.
BEST: Richmond: Tivendale, Foley, Polo, J Bowden, Howatt, Deledio, Johnson.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfmatchreport/tigers-fight-but-port-too-classy/2007/05/12/1178899168936.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Power runs hot, Tigers battle on
13 May 2007 Sunday Herald Sun
Jackie Epstein
ALL the Tigers wanted yesterday was an improved effort.
And after a 157-point drubbing at least it was 117 points better.
Yet another loss - the seventh in a row to confirm the team's worst start to a season - but this time there were players having a go and keeping their heads up.
Throughout a long week waiting for the chance to make amends, we saw a public apology, a show of faith, unity and no shirking of the issue.
In the end the positive was that it threatened to become another embarrassing blowout, but was reeled back to a still unacceptable, but somewhat respectable result.
Port Adelaide is cruising with only one loss and has made its best start to a season since 2001.
Most expected the Tigers to vent their frustrations early, but there were no real fireworks with players seemingly focused on doing the job and playing their man.
Captain Kane Johnson started on the ground this week and was given the task of Shaun Burgoyne. He let out some emotion on Chad Cornes but, apart from that, it was a fairly meek opening.
But it was competitive. The Tigers ran hard and made the most of their opportunities. Port was handed a dream start when Brendon Lade was given a dodgy free, but it was cleaner with its use of the ball and arguably could have opened a four-goal lead by the first break.
Two posters and some missed set shots in range meant the visitors had a sniff. But a goalless second quarter undid all the Tigers' good work.
They started playing chip to chip in defence and refused to attack.
It didn't help that Kayne Pettifer and Dean Polo made a meal of their shots at goal. Port's inaccuracy again prevented it from establishing a sizeable lead.
The brothers Cornes and Burgoyne were carving them up through the middle and engineering almost every foray forward.
Kane Cornes showed he had recovered from the heavy concussion he suffered last week and almost went down with leather poisoning instead. Damon White was having a day out and took 13 marks, which may have been close to a career best.
Warren Tredrea started to find some touch and David Rodan again showed his former club he can be a damaging player.
The Tigers' midfield was still leading the clearances, but it was a meaningless stat. The space afforded the Burgoynes and Nathan Lonie on the wing was telling.
The clearances ended up going Port's way, but it was always where the game was going to be won and lost.
As expected, Adam Pattison and Matthew Richardson struggled in the ruck against the experienced Lade and Dean Brogan.
But with Troy Simmonds out it was the best they could muster.
Some late misses hurt the Tigers going into half-time and their decision-making was disappointing.
It was initially hard to find the positives, but there was some light by the end of the game.
Joel Bowden held the dangerous Brett Ebert, Brett Deledio found more of the ball off half-back, Johnson negated Shaun Burgoyne, Graham Polak kept Tredrea quiet and Jay Schulz tried hard out of the square.
Pettifer and Richardson also lifted with consolation goals, Nathan Foley was tough in the centre and Shane Tuck rebounded well after Kane Cornes took him to the cleaners.
The third term was an improvement and it was Port who began to showboat and overpossess. But it always looked in control and when Daniel Motlop broke through nearing time on, Port had flexed its muscle.
It toyed with the Tigers at times and it was clear where these teams sat on the ladder.
The difference was skill level, personnel and pressure.
Throughout the day there were silly mistakes that typified Richmond's plight, but you can't expect a winless team to exude confidence.
Last year the Tigers rebounded from a 100-point defeat to topple ladder leaders Adelaide in Round 8.
They employed the flood then, but didn't apply the screws this time.
It was a better effort, but the bad news is they have to front up again at AAMI Stadium on Friday night against the Crows.
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,21719932%255E19742,00.html
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The Herald-Sun is obviously familiar with our list :wallywink
(http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5482156,00.jpg)
Better signs despite loss: Richmond's Danny Meyer, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Luke McGuane and Matthew Richardson watch the Tigers lose to Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium. Picture: Neon Martin
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Best: G Tivendale,
Once again what game are these reporters watching
I would say the same game as me at AAMI stadium. Now I was sitting in the around near a fwd pocket not sure were the media sit.
As I posted on another thread I don't know what things looked like on the TV but Tiv was defintely one of our best. Yeah yeah some of his kicks very turnovers (he wasn't alone there - want me to list them ???) but his work rate off the ball defensviely was very good. Ran hard when he didn't have the ball, which is one thing not enough of our blokes do.
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Six of Richmond's top 10 possession winners were among those with fewer than 50 games experience — Nathan Foley (30 disposals), Cameron Howat (24), Dean Polo (23), Brett Deledio (22), Jake King (21) and Andrew Raines (20).
Actually I take this a positive the kids winning the footy
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Richmond: N Foley K Johnson J Bowden G Tivendale B Deledio.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
I must have been watching a different game
they may as well chuck in richo and krak as our best too1
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Best: N Foley, G Tivendale, B Deledio, C Howat
Once again what game are these reporters watching
tiv must have won votes for theamount of ineffective disposal he had, maybe they gave him votes for helping teh power
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Rout leaves Cats sharp, Tigers toothless
Rohan Connolly | May 14, 2007
The Age
FOR all the talk and column centimetres generated by Geelong's merciless hammering of a pathetic Richmond last week, it was the response of both that was always going to be discussed just as intently.
The Tigers simply had to show something, anything, against second-placed Port Adelaide, if an entire club was to avoid going into free fall. So, too, did the Cats, up against the competition's best.
Yesterday, all the pieces finally came together. So, a fortnight after one of their most disheartening losses in recent memory, the Cats look a legitimate contender.
That's obviously years away for the subject of last week's battering, Richmond coach Terry Wallace choosing to spare the Tigers' already damaged psyche further bruising after their 40-point loss to the Power.
What choice does he have? Save for the Geelong nightmare, there's been little to fault in Richmond's effort and application, in evidence again at AAMI Stadium against the Power. Until yesterday, the Tigers were the only side to beat West Coast for contested ball this year.
But execution is another story. Port Adelaide pounced on every error the Tigers made on Saturday. And Richmond butchered any chance to pull off a fairytale rebound with a second quarter 0.7 to be seven goals down at half-time and with hopes extinguished.
Effort is admirable, but with the finesse not about to come overnight and the "play the kids" charter now cast in stone, it's going to be a long, steep and painful learning curve for the younger Tigers, Adelaide away on Friday night the next daunting task.
Geelong, in contrast, looks the goods again. It plays Fremantle at home on Saturday. Unlike the Tigers, it already has most of the boxes ticked. A win over the Dockers — a third victory in three matches — and you can add consistency to that crucial checklist.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/rout-leaves-cats-sharp-tigers-toothless/2007/05/13/1178994998088.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Tigers test fans' loyalty, character
Tim Lane | May 14, 2007
The Age
THE airport check-in man was friendly and welcoming, but winced as he realised I was headed for Adelaide. He's a Tiger and was still raw from the previous week. Told me his young son had been a mascot for the day; the day Richmond suffered the worst defeat in its history.
The best I could offer by way of solace was to suggest it might be character building. He said his son had already endured enough character construction to last a lifetime. Port Adelaide would be certain to test it again.
Another weekend and more history: a seventh straight defeat. Richmond is off to its worst start to a season. This is lightning striking twice. In their 100th year in the competition, the Tigers are at their lowest ebb.
Players made sacrifices to try to atone for last week's disgrace. Kane Johnson took responsibility in front of the media. Richard Tambling insisted on training with a badly injured shoulder. Jay Schulz iced his thigh injury right through Sunday night so that he might recover in time to play.
But without Troy Simmonds in the ruck it was always going to be mission impossible. Brendon Lade and Dean Brogan are as powerful a big man duo as there is in modern football. The Power controlled play from the outset. At face value, a 40-point defeat was a par score for Richmond.
It flattered the Tigers though. The game was dead as a contest by half-time. On the trend of the second quarter, another 100-point hiding wasn't out of the question. Terry Wallace lamented that the quarter yielded seven behinds, but only one came from a set shot inside 50. None of the others could be regarded as a genuinely bad miss. The Tigers were being overwhelmed and having to grab at half chances.
Worse still, when they kicked behinds Port prospered. In this era of emphasis on forward pressure, Richmond's ability to restrict its opponent's freedom from the kick-in was non-existent. A team that was supposedly manning up, somehow allowed its opposition to run amok.
One of Port's six goals for the quarter came from Daniel Motlop on the end of what looked like a half-pace, length-of-the-ground, training drill. Wallace can't have been happy, and had it been training Mark Williams mightn't have been either. Witches' hats apply more pressure.
The Tigers won the second half and could derive some pride from that. In a game that only ever looked capable of providing one result, it was an achievement of sorts. It was hard to gauge from Williams' response whether the Power had eased off.
When asked about it on television, Port's coach had a gentle shot at commentators who make such judgements. When asked by the assembled media later, he acknowledged a degree of disappointment.
Williams can be a little contrary, but there's a lot to admire in his leadership. He's robust, colourful and has defied the critics in his reinvention of the Power since the 2004 flag. He's fortunate in that he still has 11 premiership players on his list and half a dozen of them are in the top bracket. What Wallace would give for a Tredrea, a couple of Burgoynes, a pair of Cornes and a Lade.
The Tigers' list lacks such stars and there's no immediate sign of the gloom lifting. One well-credentialled, Melbourne-based observer said over the weekend he doubted they'd win a game for the year. That hasn't happened since 1964, so history suggests a turn of the wheel at some stage.
For the sake of the check-in man and his son, I hope it comes sooner than expected. He gave me a good seat, for which I was grateful. You'd like to be able to say more than keep the faith.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/tigers-test-fans-loyalty-character/2007/05/13/1178994997049.html
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Tigers a loss away from their worst start
Geoff McClure
The Age
May 14, 2007
COACH Terry Wallace warned Richmond fans that a long haul is ahead of them but even the extreme pessimists among them would not have envisaged this.
A search of records has revealed that the Tigers' 0-7 start to the season, which was capped off with a 40-point loss to Port Adelaide on Saturday, is the first time they have failed to win any of their first seven games since 1887, Richmond's third season in the VFA. Then, it at least managed to draw two of them.
But get this - the Tigers never started a season with eight losses, meaning that history awaits this weekend when they return to Adelaide to take on the Crows.
But it's not just the fans who are frustrated - so are the punters. Like the TAB Sportsbet client who, on Saturday, outlaid $20,000 on a line bet that allowed the Tigers to lose by up to 39 1/2 points, meaning that had Greg Tivendale not missed a relatively easy goal late in the last quarter, the punter would have won $18,000.
And as proof of what a topsy-turvy season it is, while the Tigers' premiership hopes have all but disappeared - they are now $501 in flag betting - the four-in-a-row Kangaroos, who a month ago were $251, have now shortened to $31.
Which is why one faithful Roos punter will be happy with the $100 he had on them at $251 for a collect of $25,000. The Roos, though, remain the least-backed team in the league. Of the $550,000 invested with Sportsbet on the flag, only $4700 has been on Dean Laidley's team.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/tigers-a-loss-away-from-their-worst-start/2007/05/13/1178994994119.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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And as proof of what a topsy-turvy season it is, while the Tigers' premiership hopes have all but disappeared - they are now $501 in flag betting - the four-in-a-row Kangaroos, who a month ago were $251, have now shortened to $31.
Which is why one faithful Roos punter will be happy with the $100 he had on them at $251 for a collect of $25,000.
Why would he be happy? He's still going to lose his hundred bucks. :lol
Punters logic. ??? Go figure.
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Its call laying off, the punter would be able to take bets from people who wanted to back the Kangas to win the flag , so he is a non -lose situation.
Example being he could offer someone 40-1 and they have 200 with him , thus he is 100 ahead on the deal. 100 to cover his original bet and 100 in his pocket
Pretty smart I reckon
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You've lost me, Jack. Not hard to do when it comes to punting.
I thought you just put money on something happening (eg Norf winning the flag like the joker in the article) and if it doesn't happen you do your dough. If it does happen you win at what the odds were when you placed your bet.
ps Good luck to him finding someone else to back the kangas for winning the flag.
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I wont confuse you but basically he cant lose.
If someone wants to back the Roos, he can offer odds and the money will come out of his initial bet at the start of the year..If the kangas did win lets say, he would keep 17,000 and give the other 8000 if he laid the bet 200 at 40-1 .
If the Kanga dont win it, and he can lay off , he still wins $100 overall, more if he wants to lay off more.
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Jack is right. In other words, the punter can hedge his bet to eliminate his risk (of losing the initial $100 he put on).
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whats the outlet to hedge the bet?
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betfair.com.au ;)
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that could be a nice little earner lol doing that stuff ;D
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Especially if anyone took the 12-1 the tiges to win the spoon and now there odds on. I didnt unfortunately
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Thanks for educating me a bit on punting, Jack. :)
I know heaps more than I did earlier than this arvo, which was how to back a horse in the Melbourne Cup at the TAB. :D
Doubt I'll ever use my new knowledge, I'm content to stay ignorant about betting and blow my hard earned on something I'd enjoy.
ps I still hope the bloke loses his bet (maybe he's just a mug who, like me, is not up with hedging bets). Someone's going to lose because the roos aint gonna win the flag.