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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TIGER 03 on June 02, 2007, 11:49:46 PM
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Is pattison the worst draft selection since richard lounder. how slow is he, and how many marks does he drop. Dont know why they persist with him in the ruck, would rather see angus graham out there. he supposed to be a forward/pinch hit ruckman, but i cant see him troubling to many backs. yet another draft wasted, will we ever get it right at the draft. :help
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As you say, doesn't move very well and no footy smarts. I wan't him to make it, he seems a likeable bloke, but I don't think he will.
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Dont blame the player blame the coach
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Dont blame the player blame the coach
What for?
Playing him-lmao.
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Patto is only a young lad when they build him up more & try teach him some skills on marking he will become a good player at hawthorn :thumbsup
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i have time for pattison ...
but he can't kick and he is very slow ...
he doesn't know how to ruck ... but he is a ruckman !!!
if he is on the forward line we are dead !!!
he wants to play ... and you can see
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How many 3rd year rucks are out there being asked to be their side's number 1 ruck?
To me he's shown enough this year to suggest he will be a good backup, a guy that can spell someone like Simmonds for 5-10 minutes a quarter and make a contribution up forward at times. He's still learning and he'll be inconsistent for a while, but the progress is definitely there.
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How many 3rd year rucks are out there being asked to be their side's number 1 ruck?
Spot on. :bow
Far too harsh on the young kid.
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My nomination for best clubman for this year.
Hopeless player, but great clubman lol :thumbsup
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HE IS WHAT??? 20 or 21???? :banghead :banghead :banghead
stuff me. Way to jump on a kid's back that is shouldering basically all the weight of a ruck.
Since when has a 20 years old ruckman dominated.
At least he got more possessions than Charman.
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HE IS WHAT??? 20 or 21???? :banghead :banghead :banghead
eff me. Way to jump on a kid's back that is shouldering basically all the weight of a ruck.
Since when has a 20 years old ruckman dominated.
At least he got more possessions than Charman.
I'm not knocking his endeavour, the weight he's had to carry.
I just look away every time he gets the ball - he scares the crap out of me lol
Of course he will get better and probably does a lot more that I don't see, but he's pretty raw.
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I've seen suburban ruckmen that look like better footballers than Patto....but then I may be fooled that they are only playing domestic football, it can be easy for big guys to dominate that, esp as the onballers get more and more tired.
Since when has a 20 years old ruckman dominated.
Hamish McIntosh is 22 and he is tearing games apart. Maybe there is some hope!
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Since when has a 20 years old ruckman dominated.
Hamish McIntosh is 22 and he is tearing games apart. Maybe there is some hope!
Exactly my point.
McIntosh was never expected to make it last year and he was a year older than Patto is now.
Blake for the Catters has done the exact same thing this year. He was bumbling far worse than Patto last year.
Geez Richmond supporters that expect the world from every 20 year old annoys me. :banghead
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Taller players or bigger players tend to take longer to develop than a midfielder or a half forward flanker. Sure the kid is slow and his disposal lets him down at times but the kid is only in his 3rd season and still learning the trade. Guys like Matthew Clarke have made a successful prolonged career playing in the ruck and possessing all the slow cumbersome characteristics as well as being relatively unskilled. As I said the upside is he is only 20 and the kid will learn. I have faith in the kid as a second string ruckman once Simmo gets fit. If Patto can learn to be more aware of what is around him he will be a more than handy foil for a first choice ruckman.
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I have time for Patto. I think that's because I remember what Benny Gale was like when he was Patto's age. He's also a second string ruckman as HT74 says.
Massive ask this week though against Sandilands. Not only in experience but Patto is also giving away 5 foot in height :help.
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Again, another time we could have used Stafford.
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Again, another time we could have used Stafford.
Prefer to give Patto the experience.
Loved the Staff but we must look to the future.
I don't care if we lose every match this year.
I'm behind the coach. (he says waiting for some comment from ox or others)
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Oh for sure. I was just thinking of the height difference. And also remembering a particular game when Staff was up against Sandilands.
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I have time for Patto. I think that's because I remember what Benny Gale was like when he was Patto's age. He's also a second string ruckman as HT74 says.
Massive ask this week though against Sandilands. Not only in experience but Patto is also giving away 5 foot in height :help.
Not to mention another 20 or so kg in weight
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Stafford's height? Meh.
Stafford's weight? Meh.
Stafford's elbows? Now we're talking.
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Miss those elbows :lol
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How did we all think Patto went against Freo yesterday?
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Thought he competed well. Won the odd hitout but in general did well just to make Sandilands earn it and beat Sandilands around the ground. About as good as I expected going in.
Problem was he basically did it all himself, got to the last quarter and was clearly stuffed and it really hurt us. Our only options were to put a young non-ruck like Cleve, Richo (breaking our forward structure) or Polak (breaking our defensive structure and exposing Bowden). Was a major factor in them getting on top in the last quarter.
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Most admit I reckon Pattos form this year has been a bit under-rated. Played very well considering his doing it pretty much by himself :clapping
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Most admit I reckon Pattos form this year has been a bit under-rated. Played very well considering his doing it pretty much by himself :clapping
and it's only his 3rd yr in the system. That's a lot on his young shoulders.
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I'm behind the coach. (he says waiting for some comment from ox or others)
You will have to join the queue. :lol
There are plenty already up his you know what :lol
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I actually thought he did really well yesterday. Made Sandilands in effective so that was a win for us :clapping
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He's looking ok.
Couple more years of experience and he'll be very useful.
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Again, another time we could have used Stafford.
Prefer to give Patto the experience.
Loved the Staff but we must look to the future.
I don't care if we lose every match this year.
I'm behind the coach. (he says waiting for some comment from ox or others)
listen.
If u bothered to research who bags on what,
you would have KNOWN that i have not once questioned Terry or the course of action the club has taken recently...so shove it up your cobwebbed arse,using me as the chief conspirator of this whole movement.
U just think im a bastard so without proof you try to accuse me of bullsiht,incidental issues that i have never taken to task.
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How did we rate Patto's game on Friday night?
Wallace also pointed to the performance of 21-year-old ruckman Adam Pattison, who took several courageous marks against the Demons and has battled against the odds throughout the season, after better-credentialled ruckmen Troy Simmonds and Trent Knobel went down injured.
"Adam Pattison has been super-courageous and gets no credit because he's a secondary ruckman who should be playing probably as much forward as what he ever does in the ruck," Wallace.
"At the very most he should be playing against the second-string ruckman and not playing against the initial first ruckman for the opposition.
"So therefore all we get is our rucks are undermanned or we haven't got any rucks, he's working his heart out for us week in and week out, he's been absolutely outstanding."
http://news.realfooty.com.au/tigers-vying-for-respect-says-wallace/20070423-jyf.html
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Personally I've never been a real big wrap for Pattison. On friday he tried his guts out, I liked his game.
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Again, another time we could have used Stafford.
Prefer to give Patto the experience.
Loved the Staff but we must look to the future.
I don't care if we lose every match this year.
I'm behind the coach. (he says waiting for some comment from ox or others)
listen.
If u bothered to research who bags on what,
you would have KNOWN that i have not once questioned Terry or the course of action the club has taken recently...so shove it up your cobwebbed behind,using me as the chief conspirator of this whole movement.
U just think im a bastard so without proof you try to accuse me of bullsiht,incidental issues that i have never taken to task.
Ox you misunderstand, I was expecting some sort of homophobic comment about me being "behind" the coach. (which I got, it does seem like a focus of yours)
Nothing to do with a lack of support, I was trying to be funny.
Not everything is about you FFS.
:wallywink
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Patto tries hard but his inexperience does let him down. Will be better doubling up with Simmo. What is going on with Knobel?
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pattos strength is his endurance. he has a massive engine. Next year it will be bigger.
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"Adam Pattison has been super-courageous and gets no credit because he's a secondary ruckman who should be playing probably as much forward as what he ever does in the ruck," Wallace.
He'd want to improve his kicking if that's the case
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"Adam Pattison has been super-courageous and gets no credit because he's a secondary ruckman who should be playing probably as much forward as what he ever does in the ruck," Wallace.
He'd want to improve his kicking if that's the case
If his skills were as good as his effort he would be a star
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Again, another time we could have used Stafford.
Prefer to give Patto the experience.
Loved the Staff but we must look to the future.
I don't care if we lose every match this year.
I'm behind the coach. (he says waiting for some comment from ox or others)
listen.
If u bothered to research who bags on what,
you would have KNOWN that i have not once questioned Terry or the course of action the club has taken recently...so shove it up your cobwebbed behind,using me as the chief conspirator of this whole movement.
U just think im a bastard so without proof you try to accuse me of bullsiht,incidental issues that i have never taken to task.
Ox you misunderstand, I was expecting some sort of homophobic comment about me being "behind" the coach. (which I got, it does seem like a focus of yours)
Nothing to do with a lack of support, I was trying to be funny.
Not everything is about you FFS.
:wallywink
then why say it's me and others if its not about me. ?????????????????
@ Least make the right call ol fella. :cheers
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You still get nervous whenever Patto has to find the footy on the ground. Still a touch gangly and not so sure below the knees yet. Kicking also needs to improve. 64% effectiveness. I agree with Julz. His inexperience shows but he tries his guts out. A lot like a young Benny Gale. Despite that I reckon he'll be good for us in the long-term.
Patto tries hard but his inexperience does let him down. Will be better doubling up with Simmo. What is going on with Knobel?
Knobel still 2 weeks away with his ankle.
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Rounds 1-4: Averaged 13 disposals, 4 contested.
Past month: Averaged 17 disposals, 7 contested.
Source: Champion data/AFL Record
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Rounds 1-4: Averaged 13 disposals, 4 contested.
Past month: Averaged 17 disposals, 7 contested.
Source: Champion data/AFL Record
Has come on in leaps and bounds. Still looks extremely lanky.
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Well done Patto. Coming along very nicely IMV.
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was excellent last night.
killed fraser around the ground
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He isnt flashy but he busts his gut and does the hard work.
Patto was an important player in the first 5 min of the last qtr.
Had about 5 1%ers in the first 5 mins. :thumbsup
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this kid gives his all, a true workhorce, and with more confidence, i can see him being one of the most dominant big men in afl!
the kid never gives up, and oozes leadership
as i said in another thread, he should be made co v.c with foley next yr
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this kid gives his all, a true workhorce, and with more confidence, i can see him being one of the most dominant big men in afl!
the kid never gives up, and oozes leadership
as i said in another thread, he should be made co v.c with foley next yr
great effort by patto
Must be congratulated on how much work he has put in from becoming a doughnut of a pick to potentially being a dominant big man in the AFL in X's opinion :clapping
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this kid gives his all, a true workhorce, and with more confidence, i can see him being one of the most dominant big men in afl!
the kid never gives up, and oozes leadership
as i said in another thread, he should be made co v.c with foley next yr
great effort by patto
Must be congratulated on how much work he has put in from becoming a doughnut of a pick to potentially being a dominant big man in the AFL in X's opinion :clapping
he will, he has the heart, he has the work ethic , he has the tank, he has a brain
all he needs is more confidence in himself and the team
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this kid gives his all, a true workhorce, and with more confidence, i can see him being one of the most dominant big men in afl!
the kid never gives up, and oozes leadership
as i said in another thread, he should be made co v.c with foley next yr
great effort by patto
Must be congratulated on how much work he has put in from becoming a doughnut of a pick to potentially being a dominant big man in the AFL in X's opinion :clapping
he will, he has the heart, he has the work ethic , he has the tank, he has a brain
all he needs is more confidence in himself and the team
Does he oath X. You expect midfield size players to be leading hard towards the wings to offer am option; not someone's Patto size.
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favourite part of the game was when we were coming out of defence and he took that fantastic contested mark at CHB :clapping
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favourite part of the game was when we were coming out of defence and he took that fantastic contested mark at CHB :clapping
terry like that too! see him smiling in the box
even when edwards took them all on, sure he missed the goal , but the way he went about. u could see on terrys face in the box that he knows this kid is gonna be something "speaciaaaaaaaaaal"
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It's al about ticker.
These kids have it - where as most seniors don't and never have had.
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as l stated before Patto can play good footy & just needs more game time
Hawthorn like the lad & are showing interest in him
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as l stated before Patto can play good footy & just needs more game time
Hawthorn like the lad & are showing interest in him
I'd give it thought for Franklin ;D