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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: evaluator on June 27, 2007, 02:56:05 PM
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With Hall, Gaspar, Kingsley, Bowden, P, gone it should mean 4 blokes drafted 194-196cm, with the potential to play forward and back. And with Knobel and Graham gone it should mean 2-3 blokes over 200cm. :thumbsup ;D
not including trades. ;)
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Why would Graham be gone?
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Why would Graham be gone?
You can only stay on a list as a rookie for 2 years, then you have to be delisted.
So I think he'll be gone, then re-listed as a rookie again anyway. :rollin
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Only problem with that theory is that this draft is supposedly pretty ordinary for KPPs. Rucks we should be able to go a long way to building a long-term ruck division that we've lacked for so long. But talls, there just don't seem to be that many, at least not stand-outs. What talls we get will more likely be later round selections.
What would be nice would be to see another tall on the rookie list. IMO our rookie list should always have:
1 ruckman
1 inside midfielder (ala Foley)
1 KPP (preferably a defender)
and with whatever spots are left Terry can have his athletic flankers or whatever else he desires.
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dont think the draft will be a huge emphisis this yr
we have a very young list as it is, we will draft no doubt, but i have a feeling we will trade hard at yrs end and try and add quality and experience to our list
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I wouldn't be surprised either X if we do play hard during trade week. We're down the bottom of the ladder and have leverage with our PSD pick and hopefully a priority pick. Joel moving onto the vets list and only half his salary counting towards our cap will free us some dollars as well. However with a few on our list already or just about gone, we'll have to use draft picks to replace them.
What would be nice would be to see another tall on the rookie list. IMO our rookie list should always have:
1 ruckman
1 inside midfielder (ala Foley)
1 KPP (preferably a defender)
and with whatever spots are left Terry can have his athletic flankers or whatever else he desires.
Agree jezza. Kingy on current form will be promoted to the senior list at year's end while Cam and Gus are iffy with their 2 years up. So we should have a few spots on our rookie list to add a young KPP.
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So I think he'll be gone, then re-listed as a rookie again anyway. :rollin
I don't think we can re draft him as rookie - others Clubs yep - RFC nope
I think they will keep him - invested alot of time in the kid and it is slowly starting to pay dividends
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So I think he'll be gone, then re-listed as a rookie again anyway. :rollin
I don't think we can re draft him as rookie - others Clubs yep - RFC nope
I think they will keep him - invested alot of time in the kid and it is slowly starting to pay dividends
Bugger. I said what you did on BigFooty and some guy corrected me with what I said there so I was hoping on that. :(
Tough call to make then . . . :scream
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If we want a key position player then Morton is a big show early on although Kreuzer in my opinion is a full forward/centre half forward in AFL rather than a ruckman.
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not a great year for KPP, but good for rucks, should get at least 1 or 2
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If we want a key position player then Morton is a big show early on although Kreuzer in my opinion is a full forward/centre half forward in AFL rather than a ruckman.
disagree.
Looks a ruckman. Has the height of a ruckman 200cm? and is still growing.
Is a natural ruckman. Look at his TAC hitout (about 30 a game IIRC)
Doesn't have the speed to be a full-time KPP but good at drifting forward or pinch-hitting
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i believe we need:
2 ruckman
2 chb
2 chf
6 Talls ...
Hall, Tivendale, Kingsley, Hyde, Knoble, Moore, P Bowden, Graham, Hartigan, Gaspar ... GONE !!! (10)
4 smalls !!!
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Just remember that turning over 9 senior list players means we're replacing them with very, very late draft picks.
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After what I just saw on TV i wouldnt be drafting past the 3rd round of the draft.
Natanui is a star in the making but isnt eligable.
Kreuzer tried, very mobile, hes a full forward, he got cleaned up by Natanui. I like his mobility, worthy 1 to 3 selection.
Cotchin was no where. Got absolutely trounced. Couldnt break a tag, didnt exhibit any pace, didnt show anything. Dropped out of the top 3 for mine.
Morton is a star. 192cm. Fantastic disposal by foot. Fantastic backing back in defence. Good Mark. Great decision making. Now vying with Kreuzer for No 1 position.
Sampey is a good player. Somewhere between 10 and 20 in the draft. 3rd Tall. Knows how to play footy. Straigtened his team up.
Rance is my smoky for Richmond at 17 or 18. Played mainly in defence, great run and link up from defence at times, Rance will be ok.
Palmer killed them and probably ensured hed get drafted. Hes a pick 20 to pick 30 player for mine, we have plenty like him.
Masten is great with his hands, not sure about kicking. Took his time getting into the action. Need to see more.
Gourdis didnt impress me much
Maric is a forward pocket, good shot at goal maybe can take a turn in the middle down the track, will probably get drafted because I think if VM and WA are the 2 best sides then its a poor draft past 35.
Yarran Not eligible
Venturini didnt do much, some nice poise at times needs to do more.
Most of the others - No
So for mine.
We are now down to 2. Kreuzer and Morton.
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cotchin, overrrated, when the heat was on he went missing, played well in teh 1st quarter and went to sleep
kruezer, would not waste no1 or 1st pick on him, was beaten by a fijian Natanui who is not even eligible yet
ok, palmer by what i saw is def no1 pick, masten no1, sampey no3, and WA have a few kids who are still under age who cream over our vic kids
thin draft this yr, not much depth and quality, we must focus hard on good trades cos we wont get much from this yrs draft.
hope we get palmer or masten
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Actually tend to agree with you xXx based on what I just saw I would loathed to use pick 1 or 2 on Kruener - was disappointed. I know Pickering & Clayton were saying he did well (he tried hard) but gee I don't know - perhaps I was expecting alot more
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There were plenty of good signs for Kreuzer, the way he moved around the ground, 2nd and 3rd efforts, picking the ball up off the deck, all promising. He was beaten in the ruck early, but as the game wore on he got on top more and more and he certainly wasn't helped by how poorly his midfielders were doing and a complete lack of a forward line. Not the greatest performance, but easy to see the signs as to why he's so highly regarded.
Anyway, it's only one game, recruiters have been watching him and all the others for a long time now. Plenty out there would have had more damage to the reputations than Kreuzer did (namely Cotchin).
Palmer was BOG comfortably, but given the lack of hype about him I assume that his performances at East Freo haven't been at the same level as the other highly touted players. Looks a good sort though, perfect for us given the way he wanted to carry and kick long all the time.
Morton looked very skillful and read the play nicely. Not sure whether he'll be an AFL KPP or more of a flanker/utility type. Loved his kicking though.
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The game was on the wide expanses of Subi which would suit running types more. It'll be interesting how the kids go at Kardinia Park and Princes Park.
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Palmer was very very good but theres a difference between NAB Cup and AFL and its a big gap. I dont think he can improve majorly but players like Morton could be anything.
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cotchin, overrrated, when the heat was on he went missing, played well in teh 1st quarter and went to sleep
kruezer, would not waste no1 or 1st pick on him, was beaten by a fijian Natanui who is not even eligible yet
ok, palmer by what i saw is def no1 pick, masten no1, sampey no3, and WA have a few kids who are still under age who cream over our vic kids
thin draft this yr, not much depth and quality, we must focus hard on good trades cos we wont get much from this yrs draft.
hope we get palmer or masten
going to have to disagree X. I feel that your opinions are very short-sighted.
One good game does not make a player, and likewise one bad game does not break a player.
Kids are drafted over a course of 1 to 2 seasons. And if you were to look over the games they play in that period they are bound to play a shocker or too. Unfortunately for Kreuzer and Cotchin it was at the U18 champs where many people are watching.
IMHO both Kreuzer and Cotchin have already proven themselves to be elite talents and top prospects.
BTW with Palmer I hope you mean drafting him later, def not worth a top 3 pick. Didn't you read one of the recruiters comments about Palmer "Just got himself drafted". Suggesting before his performance would probably have been a late option or fringe prospect
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Im a wrap for picking young Rance at 17 or 18. If we get the priority then Id trade one of 17 or 18 with a player to go higher in the draft.
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Im a wrap for picking young Rance at 17 or 18. If we get the priority then Id trade one of 17 or 18 with a player to go higher in the draft.
yes, Rance looks like a good young tall. Henderson is another that I really like :thumbsup