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Title: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Moi on June 30, 2007, 08:48:02 PM
Should rotate the captaincy every three years, starting next year.
Would luv to see Newman take it on for the first three and then see who puts their hand up.

Newmo just exudes courage and bravery and seems to be well respected in the footy world.

Discuss!
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: mightytiges on June 30, 2007, 09:08:36 PM
I'm a Newy fan too Moi. If Foley had some help in the guts  he'd be a chance as well. 

Sugar has been good tonight btw. Worked very hard for his 16 possies. Only one bad kick that went over Howat's head.


Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: retygas on June 30, 2007, 09:47:21 PM
It would be good to see a captain who leads by example so I'm all for that rotation.  :gotigers
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: julzqld on June 30, 2007, 09:54:08 PM
Why not.
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Moi on June 30, 2007, 10:19:14 PM
St Kilda's one year stint to me treats the captaincy as not worth having if you're only having it for a year. Takes a bit of the prestige off the honour. Three years is a good length of time, and rewards others who deserve it.  Something for the players to strive for!
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Moi on June 30, 2007, 10:20:40 PM
I'm a Newy fan too Moi.
He's just at the right age and not doing much wrong.  Does his job week in and week out without much fanfare.  I don't think you have to be a superstar to be the captain, just one who leads by example.
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Bulluss on June 30, 2007, 10:25:20 PM
Should rotate the coaching position also, Wallace has no idea.

Match ups were bad tonight and he didnt even try and change things around.

We will have no success with him there.
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Tigermonk on June 30, 2007, 11:52:28 PM
Should rotate the coaching position also, Wallace has no idea.

Match ups were bad tonight and he didnt even try and change things around.

We will have no success with him there.

hear hear agreed a 184cm weakling Raines on a Giant 193cm Rewoldt cost the game
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Moi on June 30, 2007, 11:53:50 PM
Should rotate the coaching position also, Wallace has no idea.
We've rotated quite a few coaches - hasn't worked so far if you haven't noticed  ::)
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: mightytiges on July 01, 2007, 12:12:41 AM
Should rotate the coaching position also, Wallace has no idea.

Match ups were bad tonight and he didnt even try and change things around.

We will have no success with him there.

hear hear agreed a 184cm weakling Raines on a Giant 193cm Rewoldt cost the game
As said in the other thread, it's called tanking. The natural match-up for Riewoldt was Thursty. We experimented. Even so it wasn't that that cost us the game. Getting smashed in the stoppages did because we had no one other than Foley who can win the footy and clear it.
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: bluey_21 on July 01, 2007, 01:35:53 PM
Should rotate the coaching position also, Wallace has no idea.

Match ups were bad tonight and he didnt even try and change things around.

We will have no success with him there.

hear hear agreed a 184cm weakling Raines on a Giant 193cm Rewoldt cost the game

comparing Raines to a weakling and Riewoldt to a giant is starting to exaggerate things
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Tigermonk on July 01, 2007, 02:44:23 PM
Should rotate the coaching position also, Wallace has no idea.

Match ups were bad tonight and he didnt even try and change things around.

We will have no success with him there.

hear hear agreed a 184cm weakling Raines on a Giant 193cm Rewoldt cost the game

comparing Raines to a weakling and Riewoldt to a giant is starting to exaggerate things

you reckon so
l dont
not when you compare size & weight & the labels of both players
one is a champion who produces the goods nearly every game & the other is a sprinting turnover king who goes missing in action
Good coaching TW your doing a fine job killing the kids
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Passionfruit on July 01, 2007, 05:05:12 PM
Should rotate the coaching position also, Wallace has no idea.

Match ups were bad tonight and he didnt even try and change things around.

We will have no success with him there.

Rotate the  coach right out the door on last nights  effort , PATHETIC!
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Passionfruit on July 01, 2007, 05:07:23 PM
Should rotate the coaching position also, Wallace has no idea.

Match ups were bad tonight and he didnt even try and change things around.

We will have no success with him there.

hear hear agreed a 184cm weakling Raines on a Giant 193cm Rewoldt cost the game
As said in the other thread, it's called tanking. The natural match-up for Riewoldt was Thursty. We experimented. Even so it wasn't that that cost us the game. Getting smashed in the stoppages did because we had no one other than Foley who can win the footy and clear it.


Can tell you MT, nothing to do with experimenting, The coach is a goose.
last night was a disagrace.
Why put you best rebounder on the best mark in the comp. ?
Why ?
Cause he is a idiot!
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Ramps on July 01, 2007, 05:15:03 PM
You seem to be having a touch of the digglers and laffs Jacko! Richmond need picks 1 17 18 and 34 in what will be a very average draft and you know thats the case.
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Bulluss on July 01, 2007, 05:21:39 PM
Should rotate the coaching position also, Wallace has no idea.
We've rotated quite a few coaches - hasn't worked so far if you haven't noticed  ::)
Have only really had 3 coaches in the last 10 years, dont see a big problem with that.

You have to take the emotion out of all this stuff.

Footbally is a business, you cant take crap or put up with below par performances. Collingwood arent doing well by luck, they have a president and coach that WONT accept second best in effort.

that is what we need, if you arent pulling your weight then GET FU&KED, simple.

Until we develop this mentality we wont be successful, you can call it eating our own or whatever you want. People involved in footy get good money, i should say VERY GOOD money.

150K a year doesnt come easy out in the workforce, but it does at AFL and if you cant commit to make every effort to make yourself the best you can be then show them the door. Wallace, Miller & anyone from the playing list.
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Passionfruit on July 01, 2007, 05:31:46 PM
Should rotate the coaching position also, Wallace has no idea.
We've rotated quite a few coaches - hasn't worked so far if you haven't noticed  ::)
Have only really had 3 coaches in the last 10 years, dont see a big problem with that.

You have to take the emotion out of all this stuff.

Footbally is a business, you cant take crap or put up with below par performances. Collingwood arent doing well by luck, they have a president and coach that WONT accept second best in effort.

that is what we need, if you arent pulling your weight then GET FU&KED, simple.

Until we develop this mentality we wont be successful, you can call it eating our own or whatever you want. People involved in footy get good money, i should say VERY GOOD money.

150K a year doesnt come easy out in the workforce, but it does at AFL and if you cant commit to make every effort to make yourself the best you can be then show them the door. Wallace, Miller & anyone from the playing list.
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Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: mightytiges on July 01, 2007, 09:24:00 PM
Richmond need picks 1 17 18 and 34 in what will be a very average draft and you know thats the case.
Exactly Ramps.

The 3aw commentators said before the game that they'd like to see Plough try something different and play Raines on Riewoldt. We can't rely on Joel forever.
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: {X} on July 02, 2007, 07:15:25 AM
I'm a Newy fan too Moi. If Foley had some help in the guts  he'd be a chance as well. 

Sugar has been good tonight btw. Worked very hard for his 16 possies. Only one bad kick that went over Howat's head.




sugar was shocking tonight. he not only kicked very poorly, but his handballs really put teammates under pressure tonight and when teh game needed to be won the captain needs to stand up, and sugar wa sno where.

deledio had a shocking night , but he lifted in the last quarter to try and get  the team over the line, and browny did also. pattison busted his pooper valve also and so did a few others but where was sugar!!!! no where

and btw, sugar continually falls over and stops whenever he gets the ball, he is s h i t
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: julzqld on July 02, 2007, 08:23:30 AM
Apparently the Dome surface was quite slippery as some brightspark left the room open in the morning.  A few players slipped over at the wrong moment.  However, you could practically cue it when Johnson's going to fall over.
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: wayne on July 02, 2007, 09:07:37 AM
You seem to be having a touch of the digglers and laffs Jacko! Richmond need picks 1 17 18 and 34 in what will be a very average draft and you know thats the case.

Only problem with that, is Carlton needs one more win and as each week passes it's looking less and less likely.

They have the Dees this week.

C'ARN THE BLUES!!!
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Passionfruit on July 02, 2007, 09:57:16 AM
Richmond need picks 1 17 18 and 34 in what will be a very average draft and you know thats the case.
Exactly Ramps.

The 3aw commentators said before the game that they'd like to see Plough try something different and play Raines on Riewoldt. We can't rely on Joel forever.



Maybe 3AW staff members should stop talking to RFC, or RFC should stop talking to 3AW.
Most of Melbourne knew that Raines would be on him
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: {X} on July 02, 2007, 10:43:56 AM
Richmond need picks 1 17 18 and 34 in what will be a very average draft and you know thats the case.
Exactly Ramps.

The 3aw commentators said before the game that they'd like to see Plough try something different and play Raines on Riewoldt. We can't rely on Joel forever.



Maybe 3AW staff members should stop talking to RFC, or RFC should stop talking to 3AW.
Most of Melbourne knew that Raines would be on him

so why didnt nick kick 10 goals , rather than 3 flukey ones and 1 genuine one????
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: Moi on July 02, 2007, 10:53:30 AM
As per usual, every thread turns into a Wallace bashing thread  :banghead
Anyone got any thoughts on the captaincy issue?

I would luv to see Foley in it one day, but maybe Lids or someone else would be a better choice in a few years time.  That's why I like Newmo now.

Anyone?
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: wayne on July 02, 2007, 11:33:01 AM
As per usual, every thread turns into a Wallace bashing thread  :banghead
Anyone got any thoughts on the captaincy issue?

I would luv to see Foley in it one day, but maybe Lids or someone else would be a better choice in a few years time.  That's why I like Newmo now.

Anyone?

It's got to be Foley, only a young man and now shows in bursts he can change a game. He's inspirational.
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: bluey_21 on July 02, 2007, 11:42:58 AM
I'm a Newy fan too Moi. If Foley had some help in the guts  he'd be a chance as well. 

Sugar has been good tonight btw. Worked very hard for his 16 possies. Only one bad kick that went over Howat's head.




sugar was shocking tonight. he not only kicked very poorly, but his handballs really put teammates under pressure tonight and when teh game needed to be won the captain needs to stand up, and sugar wa sno where.

deledio had a shocking night , but he lifted in the last quarter to try and get  the team over the line, and browny did also. pattison busted his pooper valve also and so did a few others but where was sugar!!!! no where

and btw, sugar continually falls over and stops whenever he gets the ball, he is s h i t

Certainly did, but I was pleased that in the 2nd half he lifted and actually tried to break the tag, unlike against Brisbane where he just cruised through the match happy to have the Sherminator tag on him
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: {X} on July 02, 2007, 01:47:40 PM
when lids is tagged so hard, terry should play him at ff or fp , in the fwd half anyway. the mistake terry made was not raines on lids,  but by not playing lids up fwd
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: bluey_21 on July 02, 2007, 02:37:47 PM
good point, but Lids needs to learn how to handle the tag in the midfield if he really wants to take the next step to the elite
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: bluey_21 on July 02, 2007, 02:41:18 PM
despite the difference in size between Nick and Rainsey I actually thought it was a good learning experience for Rainsey, although it probably cost us the match. Teach him how to play tall as well as small.

Seems to be gaining some popularity this small KP defender, re Campbell Brown
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 02, 2007, 07:48:53 PM
As per usual, every thread turns into a Wallace bashing thread  :banghead
Anyone got any thoughts on the captaincy issue?


I have.... ;D

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I would luv to see Foley in it one day, but maybe Lids or someone else would be a better choice in a few years time.  That's why I like Newmo now.

Anyone?

I not Newman's greatest fan though I do think he is having his best year but I don't like the idea of him being captain. The vast majority here are critcial of Johnson's disposal and use that as a main reason why he shouldn't be captain. Newman has been a turnover king too .. so do we replace one unreliable kick under pressure with another one. For me that's a no - it just doesn't work or sit right with me.

I reckon Foley is a good option if you were going to give it to one of the under 23 blokes. Although I reckon Tambling shows a fair bit in the leadership department. Jay Schulz who I rated highly has let me down big time this season.

On the idea of a rotating captain even over 3 year period - I have to say no. I am a tradionalist and would actually like to see someone hold for an extended period - a bit like the Roos did with Carey all those years ago
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: bluey_21 on July 02, 2007, 07:53:21 PM
calling Newman a turnover king is a bit rough WP. Whenever I have seen him his skills have been immaculate
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 02, 2007, 07:55:50 PM
calling Newman a turnover king is a bit rough WP. Whenever I have seen him his skills have been immaculate

 :lol Have a loook at the tape of the Brissy lion or WCE game bluey. And I did say under pressure.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: {X} on July 02, 2007, 07:58:04 PM
calling Newman a turnover king is a bit rough WP. Whenever I have seen him his skills have been immaculate

he makes the occasional blunder, but so does joel and everryone at richo, but for newman to be labelled a turnover king is a bit rough, that title will never leave tivendale

i would like to see tambling as captain, i reckon blingers will thrive as a captain and he has a sensible head on his shoulders
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: {X} on July 02, 2007, 08:00:55 PM
calling Newman a turnover king is a bit rough WP. Whenever I have seen him his skills have been immaculate

 :lol Have a loook at the tape of the Brissy lion or WCE game bluey. And I did say under pressure.  :thumbsup

v brissy, nearly every player turned the ball over

the wce game, i recall vividly, his skills were not the issue then, and also that was early in the season, after recovering from  that leg break u could understand his skills being rusty, but v wce, the main issue was his non accountability, he gave wirrapanda and time 50metres free space.

but in newmans defence,, his skills and game have been much better over the past 6 weeks
Title: Re: Three Year Captaincy Rotation
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 02, 2007, 09:56:53 PM
but in newmans defence,, his skills and game have been much better over the past 6 weeks

Agree :thumbsup


and at least I got us back on the topic :rollin