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Title: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: one-eyed on July 21, 2007, 03:36:29 AM
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Richardson: The power of perception
21 July 2007   Herald Sun
Glenn Archer

Glenn Archer: I thought we wouldn't talk too much about the 250 games.

Matthew Richardson: There's been a bit about that already.

I reckon we just talk about general stuff. You're 32 - I Googled you for my research.

Yeah, 32 in March this year. There's a couple of other Matthew Richardsons out there (Google) too, I think.

Is there?

There's a golfer in America or something. He probably came up as well.

A bit of eBay stuff in there.

Oh yeah, the people that come down to training and have us sign jumpers all the time. It's shocking.

Do you think that's got worse?

I reckon a lot of people at training now don't even support the team they're there for. They're just down there to put it on eBay. You've got to say, 'Who do I make it out to?'.

When I Googled you, I saw that you wanted to be an accountant.

Well, I'll tell you how long that lasted. I was in Year 9 or 10 and I went down to the local accounting place in Devonport for some work experience. Within the first half-hour I'd worked out that I wasn't going to be an accountant. Very boring people and very boring jobs that they had me doing.

There were also some photos on some websites showing off the old ponytail. It's not an accountant's look.

A shocking, shocking look, the ponytail, but at the time I thought it looked pretty good. It got pulled by a few opponents a couple of times, too, so it wasn't worth it.

When I used to play on you - I played on you a couple of times - David King used to get into you a fair bit.

Yeah, he did.

He got into you a lot, actually. And now he's your assistant coach.

I must admit when I first heard that Kingy was coming down, I thought straight away back to the days when we used to play against him. But he's so enthusiastic about what he does down at our club and once you see someone in another light, when they're not on the ground, it's totally different, so he's been great. Although he was the forward line coach for 12 months and one day he was trying to give me tips on how to take a contested mark and I thought, 'Hang on, Kingy, this isn't your strength area'.

Let's talk about perceptions of blokes on the field.

The average punter that goes to the footy probably looks at you on the ground and that's what they think you're like all the time. That's what they expect you to be like. I can get fired up on the ground and get a bit passionate about my footy, and they probably think that's what I'm like all the time off the ground. It's obviously not the case.

One thing has always got me about the media, they focus a lot on your negatives. Does that annoy you?

Yeah, it does, I did a press conference the other day with (coach) Terry (Wallace) and all the media outlets were there and always the first questions are on the goalkicking and the second question's always your body language. And I think surely there's a lot of other areas in the game that I do well that they could focus on. But I guess from an early age they sort of focused in on those two areas. It doesn't matter if I kick straight for five, six or seven weeks in a row, and I have one game where I miss three or four goals, it's like I've been kicking badly for the whole seven weeks. Or I might play with a lot of control in my emotions for six or seven weeks and I have one game when I get a bit fired up, and it's like, 'He's been doing it every week'. You learn to live with that. Sometimes you wish they'd look at your positives more than your negatives. I shouldn't make it sound like that. Obviously a lot of people write a lot of good stuff as well. But they are the first two things people think about.

You've kicked a lot of goals - 700 odd?

Up around there.

You can't be too bad a kick.

It's funny though. You look at my percentage and it can be 60 per cent and another guy's will be 61 per cent, but he's seen as being a good kick and I'm 60 per cent and I'm a shocking kick. It's a funny game. Fine line.

Perception again.

Yeah, fine line. I'm not trying to say I'm Peter McKenna here, though. I'll admit I need to improve, but it can be a very fine line between being good and bad, it seems.

Wayne Carey was saying, and I don't reckon Wayne gives out too many compliments unless they're warranted, and he was saying Matthew Richardson is a champion player. And a couple of blokes disagreed with him. What does a bloke have to do?

I think the problem is because I haven't played in a lot of successful teams, that's where the statement probably comes up and because I haven't played finals footy. I must admit when Wayne Carey went into bat for me I was happy with that because he's one of the greatest of all time. If he thinks I'm all right then I'm pretty happy with that.

Let's talk about today's footy. How you go full time, the meetings?

I think the best way to sum it up is I'm probably happy it's the last years of my career. If I was starting now as an 18-year-old I don't know if I could last 15 years. It would drive me insane. There's probably too many meetings and I reckon we over-analyse footy now. I don't think it's as hard as we try to make out sometimes.

What about the new generation, like the under-18s now. How would you compare them to when you came in?

I reckon when I first came in you got told to do something and you just went out and tried to do it. But now you try and tell young guys to do something and they ask you why they've got to do it. That's probably the best way of comparing the two. Although I'm sure my first coaches might disagree if I said I did exactly what I was told.

It's a different generation and the generations are only going to get worse because it's the cuddle generation now. We cuddle our kids so tight, we don't really let them off the leash that often.

Yeah, I think back when you first started the coaches used to ride you a lot more. You'd get abused a lot more and if you couldn't handle it, you wouldn't survive.

How's your Dad going?

Good. Lives in Doncaster now. He came back from Tassie about 10 years ago. He enjoys the footy, he loves it and gets there every week. He's going well.

Does he talk to you much about your footy?

Doesn't say a lot, Dad. I've got to ask him. He doesn't tell me anything. Often I'll ask him about when he was playing. I'll ask him about players he played with. But he's never been a preacher, telling me how to play. He's always just pretty positive and encouraging. One thing he can't get a handle on is every week the team printed in the paper - back-pocket Bowden, stuff Thursfield . . . He'll say why is such and such playing half-forward stuff and I'll say, 'Dad, don't believe how it's lined up in the paper, it doesn't happen any more'. Back in his day, what was in the paper was where you played. He just can't get a handle on that. It's funny.

What do you reckon you'll do after footy? Do you think you'll stay involved?

I reckon I'd like to have some sort of involvement in footy. You do it for this long you can hardly imagine not doing something. But I don't see myself as being a coach or up in the coach's box. I reckon I'd like to be around a footy club doing something, helping out in some capacity. I'd definitely go and watch the footy. I'll go and support Richmond, definitely. I'll enjoy that, I reckon. Just going in the outer with a few mates.

You don't have kids yet?

Not yet, that might fill up my time a bit more . . .

It makes it hard. I don't watch any footy now. At Saturday morning training you walk in and they're all talking about the game they watched last night. I have to ask who won.

Yeah.

Which makes it hard when you go out on the field after a game when you go to shake everyone's hand you don't know the names.

That's one thing I've noticed . . . years ago you'd know every single player. Now sometimes you've got to ask someone who it is. If you're not following it religiously you can lose track of it pretty quickly.

Do you get down to the Prince of Wales, watch a few bands?

Yeah, not as much as I'd like. I like getting out and watching a bit of live music. We seem to be playing on Sunday all the time this year. It just gives you no real social time, you can't go out to a pub and watch a band on a Thursday or Friday night. Or if you did and you went and had a bottle of water someone would ring the club and say you were out drinking.

You're drinking a bottle of water and they'd say you were taking drugs.

Yeah, it's pretty hard now.

How do you reckon the drugs issue is going after the Cousins thing?

With the policy they've brought in in the last two years - if anyone was thinking of doing it now, you'd be pretty stupid. I have noticed the drug testers have been at the club a lot more often. You know on a Monday or a Tuesday, so if that's not a deterrent then I don't know what is. I reckon the new policy and all the publicity has woken guys up to realise that if you were thinking of experimenting then it wouldn't be the time to be doing it.

I was real worried about 12 months ago. You would have heard the same stories.

Well, you do - just the footy grapevine, the rumours. You do hear things, but in the last 18 months I haven't been hearing hardly anything. So hopefully than means the policy is working.

I wrote an article a couple of years ago about how emotional the game is after you got in trouble for sticking your finger up to the crowd.

That cost me five grand. I won't do it again.

I was just going to make a point about being a role model . . .

Yeah, it's not a good look. Obviously if kids see me sticking my finger up, they think it's all right to do it too . . . they're going to follow whatever you do. No doubt we are role models whether we like it or not. Kids want to follow what we're doing so we have to be careful. I felt like a clown when I looked at it.

It's very hard to turn off that switch. It happens in a 100th of a second when you lose it. I've seen psychologists, I've seen priests and everything to try to control my temper. And the only thing I think that's worked for me is maturity.

That's what's worked for me. I've spoken to people about trying to keep my emotions in check and it's exactly as you say, as you get older you mellow out a bit more.

Now I see blokes pushing and shoving . . . it's a waste of time.

I've got to try to save my energy for trying to get the ball. I remember I had a wrestle with Fraser Gehrig one day on the wing and for the next 10 minutes neither of us could move. A wrestle takes more out of you than running. And it costs you too much money now. The fines are a bit out of whack, I reckon.

How many times have you been up to the tribunal?

I've never been suspended for striking or anything like that. But a few melees and wrestling.

And your injuries?

I think in the last 14 years I've had 14 operations. But in saying that I haven't missed much footy in the last four or five years. The most I've missed in any year is three or four games. I've got my body pretty much in check.

It shows how many games you missed - 100 probably, so really you should be up around 350 games.

I reckon I've missed between 60 and 70. So I'd be up around where you are and Ricciuto, Neitzy started about the same time. I'd like to think I've still got a few years left. I aim to get up around 300. We'll see what happens.

You don't look like you're getting any slower.

Oh, I think I am a bit. I think back when I played on you I was probably running to the wrong positions a lot of the time. You learn to run a bit smarter.

Have you looked at your contested marks compared to 10 years ago?

They've definitely dropped back. I reckon 10 years ago you'd take 70 or 80 a year if you had a good year, and now I reckon if you take 40 you've had a good year. Footy's changed a lot since then. There's not as many marking contests now, one-on-one anyway. I feel like I can go a whole quarter and not be in a real genuine one-on-one chance.

Back to life after footy. What sort of jobs will you do?

I've got the share in the Lounge Room down in Docklands, a restaurant bar. It's pretty hard work, hospitality, I don't know if that's my go. I'm not sure, really. Media, I don't know. I guess you wait and see what sort of opportunities arise when you're getting towards the end.

What about footy trips. Are footy trips pretty big at the Tigers?

They used to be. That's another thing that's gone out of footy, which is disappointing. We didn't get to go on one last year. I think just because of the environment now where they get worried about blokes getting into trouble. So they're a dying thing. It used to be a good chance to really get to know guys. You'd really bond with blokes.

At least it's not dying at the Kangaroos. Footy trips and premierships, that's what we play for.

It's disappointing that they're going by the wayside.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,22106968%255E20322,00.html
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Ox on July 21, 2007, 04:49:15 AM
this article could have been called,

'The Real Problem" - only joking.

Well done Matty...unfortunately mate,we ALL love you . :P

You know he'll make 300........ :shh
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: mightytiges on July 21, 2007, 05:16:50 AM
When I Googled you, I saw that you wanted to be an accountant.

Very boring people and very boring jobs that they had me doing.
I know a couple of people who were looking forward to Richo's 250th who might change their mind now lol :wallywink

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There were also some photos on some websites showing off the old ponytail. It's not an accountant's look.
Hello Arch from OER  :thumbsup

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There's probably too many meetings and I reckon we over-analyse footy now. I don't think it's as hard as we try to make out sometimes.
Terry will be pleased by this ;D

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I'd like to think I've still got a few years left. I aim to get up around 300. We'll see what happens.
As long as Richo doesn't get any soft tissue injuries that ended Cambo and now Buck's career quickly then I'd reckon he'll make it to 300.

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What about footy trips. Are footy trips pretty big at the Tigers?

They used to be. That's another thing that's gone out of footy, which is disappointing. We didn't get to go on one last year. I think just because of the environment now where they get worried about blokes getting into trouble. So they're a dying thing. It used to be a good chance to really get to know guys. You'd really bond with blokes.
Might be an idea to do one this year like the Roos. The Roos started training before everyone else too.
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: julzqld on July 21, 2007, 07:42:22 AM
One thing has always got me about the media, they focus a lot on your negatives. Does that annoy you?

Yeah, it does, I did a press conference the other day with (coach) Terry (Wallace) and all the media outlets were there and always the first questions are on the goalkicking and the second question's always your body language. And I think surely there's a lot of other areas in the game that I do well that they could focus on. But I guess from an early age they sort of focused in on those two areas. It doesn't matter if I kick straight for five, six or seven weeks in a row, and I have one game where I miss three or four goals, it's like I've been kicking badly for the whole seven weeks. Or I might play with a lot of control in my emotions for six or seven weeks and I have one game when I get a bit fired up, and it's like, 'He's been doing it every week'. You learn to live with that. Sometimes you wish they'd look at your positives more than your negatives. I shouldn't make it sound like that. Obviously a lot of people write a lot of good stuff as well. But they are the first two things people think about.

Certain people should take note.

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It's funny though. You look at my percentage and it can be 60 per cent and another guy's will be 61 per cent, but he's seen as being a good kick and I'm 60 per cent and I'm a shocking kick. It's a funny game. Fine line.
Not to mention people wanting you to retire cause they 'think' you are destroying the team.

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What about the new generation, like the under-18s now. How would you compare them to when you came in?

I reckon when I first came in you got told to do something and you just went out and tried to do it. But now you try and tell young guys to do something and they ask you why they've got to do it. That's probably the best way of comparing the two. Although I'm sure my first coaches might disagree if I said I did exactly what I was told.

It's a different generation and the generations are only going to get worse because it's the cuddle generation now. We cuddle our kids so tight, we don't really let them off the leash that often.

Yeah, I think back when you first started the coaches used to ride you a lot more. You'd get abused a lot more and if you couldn't handle it, you wouldn't survive.
Yeah Danny Meyer - take note!


Good article by Archer.  Obviously the opposition respect Richo, even if some Richmond supporters don't.
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 21, 2007, 09:41:27 AM
this article could have been called,

'The Real Problem" - only joking.

Well done Matty...unfortunately mate,we ALL love you . :P

You know he'll make 300........ :shh

yes we all love richo, he has been a champ, and if he keeps playing he will finish as a has been and not a champion

times up richo, u have ben great but u wont be as great from now on

sure richo will play cameo roles here and there if he stays, but then he will just get in the way of other developing players


richo may come out and kick 8 goals this w/e, and it wont chane my view, because it would take another yr b4 he dominates a game. he cant do it week in week out anymore.

richo wants to be ff, chf, hff, and fp on every game, he does not know how to wrk with other fwds, he has ben so used to it being all about him, that he cant change

one has to be cruel to be kind, and someone has to have the coglioni to say to richo, ur time is up, yes thats cruel, but 4 richmonmds future development , its kind!
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: 2JD on July 21, 2007, 10:33:01 AM
Yeah, lets take the last bit of passion and excitement out of the team, get rid of the man who plays with 100% effort, and the only one there likely to inspire anyone....yeah great idea  ::) :wallywink
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 21, 2007, 10:42:35 AM
Yeah, lets take the last bit of passion and excitement out of the team, get rid of the man who plays with 100% effort, and the only one there likely to inspire anyone....yeah great idea  ::) :wallywink

yeak richo , fantastic, 100% effort 100% inspiration

wow hasnt his efforts and inspiration done wonders for our team over the past 2 yrs

yeah we are flying ! fantastic, lets let our emotions take over our judgement
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Bull on July 21, 2007, 10:46:54 AM
Richo will make you eat your words X dont worry about that.

Richo was instrumental in a number of our wins last season.

Its pretty hard to be a match winner when our team is crap.

We play 6 forwards everyweek and Richo is still one of our best forwards so there is no reason to stop playing him or force him into retirement.
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Passionfruit on July 21, 2007, 10:51:00 AM
The only reason we can beat port tomorrow is about one person.
Richo.
Its obvisously the coach cant motivate the team in other games.
Might just win tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 21, 2007, 10:52:13 AM
Richo will make you eat your words X dont worry about that.

Richo was instrumental in a number of our wins last season.

Its pretty hard to be a match winner when our team is crap.

We play 6 forwards everyweek and Richo is still one of our best forwards so there is no reason to stop playing him or force him into retirement.

yep like he made me eat my words this yr , just like he did v the kangas, plenty of effort, no reward.

typical of richo, 110% effort, 25% reward

if he makes me eat my words fine, but for the future of this team, holding on to him is crazy.

our fwd line this yr functioned the best v the eagles, why, richo was no where to be seen on the fwd 50

if richo had half the footy brain of nathan brown, richo wopuld be a total champion, but he isnt , he is just a very good player, and if he plays on will finish a has been.

time will tell
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 21, 2007, 10:55:12 AM
The only reason we can beat port tomorrow is about one person.
Richo.
Its obvisously the coach cant motivate the team in other games.
Might just win tomorrow.

thats not why we may win tomorrow

we may win only because we have a good record v port at the g
we may also win because terry is feeling some heat
has nothing to do with richos 250th, if a team needs milestone games to inspire a win, thats pathetic.

if port come to play, and are switched on, they will thump us. the only way rfc can win is if port wanna lose
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Ramps on July 21, 2007, 11:00:49 AM
Richo will play till his 35 i reckon.
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 21, 2007, 11:08:16 AM
Richo will play till his 35 i reckon.

he may and we will still be a bottom 4 team

we have to start fresh and get rid of all involved in past failures

players with bad skills and habits spread their disease, we have seen it yr in yr out
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Passionfruit on July 21, 2007, 11:25:13 AM
Whats funny X is that every team that has some milestone game against the tiges usually beats us. We just roll over and die more often that not.
its about time things changed.
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Passionfruit on July 21, 2007, 11:58:52 AM
Anyone who bags Richo wouldnt know.
He should have been made captain and he is the only player who tries to inspire other team members. Not like Humphey B Bear sorry Kane Johnson.
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 21, 2007, 12:10:49 PM
Anyone who bags Richo wouldnt know.
He should have been made captain and he is the only player who tries to inspire other team members. Not like Humphey B Bear sorry Kane Johnson.

richo should have been made captain 3 yrs ago , not now, too late, richo is no longer the richo we once knew

brown should be made captain, the only senior player on our list wit a/ a footy brain, b/ matchwinning  ability, c/ inspirational qualities and most imp, d/ total desire to win! e/ above average skill level
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: julzqld on July 21, 2007, 05:05:52 PM
Again, this thread is about RICHO.  End of story.
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: 2JD on July 21, 2007, 06:00:31 PM
Exactly Julz, its about RICHO. And what a great team player he is...still. I dont claim to be any more special than anyone on here, and I can mix it with the best of you boys on here with slanging matches, I simply choose not to!
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 21, 2007, 06:16:24 PM
the only ppl who think richo is needed and such a gr8 team person are tiger supporters who only see things in black and yellow. ask any unbiased footy supporter who knows the game and see what most thing about richo, his game and his importance.

i have said, all along, he has been gr8, but his time is up

i am a RFC supporter and thats it. i dont support  players/individuals , i support the team! TEAM comes first.

the longer richo keeps playing the worse off the tigers will be in devloping the "generation next" fwd line.

any student and expert of the game can see that, unless u r in love with richo, and are blinded by reality
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2007, 08:01:38 AM
One of my footy friends is an absolute maniacal Richo supporter.  And to help surprise her after she passed her accountancy exams, her partner asked Richo "casually" after a game if he would come to her surprise party.  He said "sure" and asked where it was and said he'd be there.

Naturally enough, everyone thought he would forget.  But at the designated time, they answered a knock on the door and here's Richo.

So sure he wasn't going to come, there was a mad scramble to hide all the lifesize Richo cutouts hahahaha!

He honestly is the best thing to happen to our club for the last 20 years  :thumbsup
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 22, 2007, 08:19:12 AM
One of my footy friends is an absolute maniacal Richo supporter.  And to help surprise her after she passed her accountancy exams, her partner asked Richo "casually" after a game if he would come to her surprise party.  He said "sure" and asked where it was and said he'd be there.

Naturally enough, everyone thought he would forget.  But at the designated time, they answered a knock on the door and here's Richo.

So sure he wasn't going to come, there was a mad scramble to hide all the lifesize Richo cutouts hahahaha!

He honestly is the best thing to happen to our club for the last 20 years  :thumbsup

thats gr8 moi, i never said richo was not a gr8 guy, i have just an opinion that hi stime is up. he has been around, had his chances, had his time and now is time for the future.  he no longer has the impact he used to. richo will get 18 marks a game, he will get his 20 kicks and 8 handballs, work like a dog but only have 3 goals to show for it. he suffocates our fwd line and wants it all. he wants to be the only tall in our fwd line and cannot work in tandom with another tall , say like a j,brown/lynch, j.brown and bradshaw, w.carey /longmire, dunstall/ brereton , ablett/brownless etc.

take richo out of the fwd line and play jay, cleve and jack and we will have a better functioning fwd line . but these guys need game time together . the time is now but richo being around wont allow it. why am i the only person in black and yellow colors who can see that.

richo can have a role, get tigger the mascot of teh ground befor each game and use richo as the mascott, theres a job 4 him
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Passionfruit on July 22, 2007, 08:29:52 AM
If we played Schultz every week instead of Richo, god help the team.

Richo has played in a team for the past 12 years that has had very poor delivery to its forwards.
If Richo played at any other club, he would of kicked 100 goals on many occassions.
He is an absolute superstar who has had to put up with teammates who wouldnt get a game anywhere else.

As Moi has said, he is the best thing that has happened at Punt road for the last 20 years, sad,probably the only good  thing.

He bleeds for the club, its a pity his team mates cant and couldnt do the same.
Can also say in my opinion  he is the only player on a week to week basis who wears his heart on his sleeve. He plays with passion. Something that the current and past coaches have failed to instill into the RFC.
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2007, 08:30:57 AM
I don't think you're wrong, X.
Many a time we've played better without having him there, being focused on the one player.  Happens time and time again.
And then there are other times when you say thank god for Richo, he's the only one out there at least having a go.
Being Moi the Mercilous lol, I would have traded him years ago, but I'm glad we didn't.  He's such a Richmond legend.
I don't know, maybe if we play him up the ground in his last couple of years and let the other kids have a go up forward as you say.  But while there's others out there who are 10 times worse than Richo, and he still wants to go on with his career, let him.
He can still teach them valuable lessons in playing with heart, determination, never giving up and playing for the jumper.
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Passionfruit on July 22, 2007, 08:35:16 AM
I don't think you're wrong, X.
Many a time we've played better without having him there, being focused on the one player.  Happens time and time again.
And then there are other times when you say thank god for Richo, he's the only one out there at least having a go.
Being Moi the Mercilous lol, I would have traded him years ago, but I'm glad we didn't.  He's such a Richmond legend.
I don't know, maybe if we play him up the ground in his last couple of years and let the other kids have a go up forward as you say.  But while there's others out there who are 10 times worse than Richo, and he still wants to go on with his career, let him.
He can still teach them valuable lessons in playing with heart, determination, never giving up and playing for the jumper.

Agree Totally :thumbsup
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2007, 08:36:34 AM
Richo has played in a team for the past 12 years that has had very poor delivery to its forwards.
If Richo played at any other club, he would of kicked 100 goals on many occassions.
He is an absolute superstar who has had to put up with teammates who wouldnt get a game anywhere else.
What's going on here, I agree with you too lol
There will be so many "what ifs" surrounding Richo when he retires.  Could he have been the greatest in a better team?  I actually think he could have.
But the fact he wanted to stay with us, even as pathetic as we have been, says so much for him.

I actually should bury my head in shame for ever wanting to get rid of him lol
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: 1965 on July 22, 2007, 08:46:54 AM
Richo has played in a team for the past 12 years that has had very poor delivery to its forwards.
If Richo played at any other club, he would of kicked 100 goals on many occassions.
He is an absolute superstar who has had to put up with teammates who wouldnt get a game anywhere else.
What's going on here, I agree with you too lol
There will be so many "what ifs" surrounding Richo when he retires.  Could he have been the greatest in a better team?  I actually think he could have.
But the fact he wanted to stay with us, even as pathetic as we have been, says so much for him.

I actually should bury my head in shame for ever wanting to get rid of him lol


I look foward to telling my grandkids (not even close yet thank god) about the legend that was Richo.

I'm sure he will get better with each year that passes.

:clapping
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 22, 2007, 08:48:42 AM
guys im im not disagreeing with u either. our fwd line functioned best this yr v the eagles, richo wasnt in our fed line

ok , if richo must stay on, play him on the wing, he can run, has stamina. will be able to run back and plug holes in defence and run fwd if needed.

keep him out of fwd 50 and let the kids play there. if terry can do that, keep him .

remember legends must end at some time or another, better leave with a legend reputation, and not a has beens try hard one.
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: julzqld on July 22, 2007, 08:50:35 AM
Moi - the Mercilous - rofl :rollin
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: 1965 on July 22, 2007, 08:51:01 AM
guys im im not disagreeing with u either. our fwd line functioned best this yr v the eagles, richo wasnt in our fed line

ok , if richo must stay on, play him on the wing, he can run, has stamina. will be able to run back and plug holes in defence and run fwd if needed.

keep him out of fwd 50 and let the kids play there. if terry can do that, keep him .

remember legends must end at some time or another, better leave with a legend reputation, and not a has beens try hard one.

Last time he started on a wing he got thrashed by Nick Riewoldt
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2007, 08:56:29 AM
ok , if richo must stay on, play him on the wing, he can run, has stamina. will be able to run back and plug holes in defence and run fwd if needed.
Except for the running, stamina and playing on the wing  :lol just like Benny Gale plugging holes in the backline  :thumbsup
Except every time I see Richo down there, I think to myself, get him out of there quick before he does some damage lol
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Moi on July 22, 2007, 08:58:00 AM
Moi - the Mercilous - rofl :rollin
I really do luv Richo, Julz
Honest
I just have this pretty nasty streak  :lol
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 22, 2007, 09:01:19 AM
guys im im not disagreeing with u either. our fwd line functioned best this yr v the eagles, richo wasnt in our fed line

ok , if richo must stay on, play him on the wing, he can run, has stamina. will be able to run back and plug holes in defence and run fwd if needed.

keep him out of fwd 50 and let the kids play there. if terry can do that, keep him .

remember legends must end at some time or another, better leave with a legend reputation, and not a has beens try hard one.

Last time he started on a wing he got thrashed by Nick Riewoldt

i remember that, that day proved richo isnt as good as ppl think

riewoldt can play f, ff, wing, on ball, chb, fb, hbf all over, wher can richo play? besides up fwd and with julz? nowhere
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 22, 2007, 09:03:01 PM
massive turnout today to honor our champ

20,000 people . i think that says it all, not only did no one show up, not even the players wanted to give the ball to richo

after 250 games the champ still does not understand where to run and where not to run and he cannot play up fwd with other talls

sure he kicked a massive 4 goals again, wow, all at a time when the game was already lost

jack showed more more promise today, with half of richos game time he kicked one less goal

today we saw jack, edwards, thursty, mguane  have a real dip and good show. jake tried his lil guts out again

raines sugar tiv hyde tuck joel are still a joke , richo should retire end of story
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 22, 2007, 09:17:31 PM
massive turnout today to honor our champ

20,000 people . i think that says it all, not only did no one show up, not even the players wanted to give the ball to richo

after 250 games the champ still does not understand where to run and where not to run and he cannot play up fwd with other talls

sure he kicked a massive 4 goals again, wow, all at a time when the game was already lost

xXx you are entitled to your opinion and I am not going to get into arguement with you today

But I will only say this....

Today was a shameful effort by Tiger fans for not showing up to honour Richo - actually it was DISGRACEFUL in my view.

Regarding him not knowing where to run to.... I'll let that go through to the keeper as well

Perhaps today was the reason we are where we are and it aint got nothing to day with Richo.

When things are crap people should stick together, come together and stand as one - today was the perfect time to do it and we couldn't and for some people they wouldn't and that is.  well.... IMHO Richo deserved better

We as a Club dont know how to do it, we have "influential" supporters thinking that this Club is theirs and no-one elses and they continue to stir things in the back ground but gee at least it makes them feel good and above all else important. Great! Then there were people who didn't show up today because thet are p_issed off with the Club but in doing so the show no regard to a bloke who has given absoutely evereything to this Club and still does.

xXx you think he should retire and again that's your opinion.

But for me however, we need Richo now probably more than ever - his passion for this Club cannot be questioned and god how I wish a few more people had his passion.

The day Richo retires the RFC will be a lot poorer place
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Passionfruit on July 22, 2007, 09:22:28 PM
Richo is the only player who plays with passion, something sadly missed at punt road.

The younger players such as King, Edwards and Foley will be good passionate players in the future.- same Riewoldt

The rest were a disgrace
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 22, 2007, 09:29:47 PM
passion can only get u so far, it worked in the 60's. it worked in th e70's but since teh 80's hit, passion went out th edoor and skill started to take place .

to win games u need skill and brains. passion is nice but it wont win u games

when st kilda got rid of lockett , all said they were crazy, it was the best thing they ever did!

we should have learned from that

saints did, cos they then also got rid of barry hall also

in hindsight, when terry took over, we not only should have got rid of ottons, but richo also

i want the tigers to look fwd, forget the present and the past

we have cleve and jack who can play chf, they are the future.

cleve worked his arse off yesterday again for coburg, he deserves gametime at the top level with jack and jay

we continually get stuck in this bs cycle that is the rfc.

the only way to break this bs cycle we are always spinning in is to make damn hard and cruel decisions

we did it to gaspar

we did it to kellaway

now its time to do it to richo, sugar joel tuck and tiv

we are all entitled to  our opinions yes, but richo is not part of teh future plans, nor are the other above mentioned tools

there is no time lik ethe present to make tough changes to guarantee a better future

all the above mentioned players cannot give us anymore than they have, they have no improvement to offer absolutely none. so whats the point, yr after yr they have proven they cannot be part of success but we continue with the same damn failed structures and stock

we cannot go fwd with the old cattle we have , we need new bulls in the team, with better skills and more upside to offer

forget emotions , emotions get u know where , emotions just cloud whats real
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Passionfruit on July 22, 2007, 09:32:06 PM
You obvsiously havent seen the Kangas play
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 22, 2007, 09:35:17 PM
The day Richo retires the RFC will be a lot poorer place

no we wont
we will have the deledios edwards riewoltds foleys tamblings hughes etc to excite us for the next 10 + yrs

some times one just has to let go

being romantic and holding on in hope is not the answer
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 22, 2007, 09:36:19 PM
You obvsiously havent seen the Kangas play

Took the keystrokes right out of my hand (aka took the words right out of my mouth) Jack.

I reckon if we had 10 Richos running around for us in 2007 we would be alot closer to the eight than we are now

Is it too late for Richo to be captain for 2008 :bow
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 22, 2007, 09:37:45 PM
You obvsiously havent seen the Kangas play

i have and what gr8 skill they have, nothing to do with passion, just skill.

richo has passion, but cant win games anymore

the kangas play with pride and skill.

if they turned the ball over like we did, there passion would not hit targets 4 them

u know that, i know that, and thats something that wayne campbell told me years ago, passion does not win u games , skill does.

wayno is no fool, he knows


Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 22, 2007, 09:38:30 PM
The day Richo retires the RFC will be a lot poorer place

no we wont
we will have the deledios edwards riewoltds foleys tamblings hughes etc to excite us for the next 10 + yrs

some times one just has to let go

being romantic and holding on in hope is not the answer

Actually you've just highlighted why the big bloke's so important xXx (and I'm sure you didn't mean too).

They need someone to teach how to be passionate about the RFC - Richo is the man that does it  whether you want to acknowledge it or not
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 22, 2007, 09:40:59 PM
You obvsiously havent seen the Kangas play

Took the keystrokes right out of my hand (aka took the words right out of my mouth) Jack.

I reckon if we had 10 Richos running around for us in 2007 we would be alot closer to the eight than we are now

Is it too late for Richo to be captain for 2008 :bow

if we had 10 richos we would have 10  more players with passion missing goals from the goalsquare, 10 more players who cant continually hit targets

10 more players who still cannot grasp the hands in the back rule

10 more players who will sook at all times to the umpire

wake up tiger fans

saw parts of the kangas game v the the worst team in the afl, remember we beat them

yep passion kicked every goal for them, all plays were set up by passion

top skills had nothing to do with it
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 22, 2007, 09:45:49 PM
The day Richo retires the RFC will be a lot poorer place

no we wont
we will have the deledios edwards riewoltds foleys tamblings hughes etc to excite us for the next 10 + yrs

some times one just has to let go

being romantic and holding on in hope is not the answer

Actually you've just highlighted why the big bloke's so important xXx (and I'm sure you didn't mean too).

They need someone to teach how to be passionate about the RFC - Richo is the man that does it  whether you want to acknowledge it or not

u cant teach passion, u either have it or u dont

jack already has it, richo had nothing to do with it

same as foley

connors is another and edwards u can see is passionate

so is kingy

what did richo have to do with that, nothing

u are born with certain attributes , or u can be just born a dud like sugar who shows nothing

im a stubborn sicillian wp, sorry
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 22, 2007, 09:53:01 PM
if we had 10 richos we would have 10  more players with passion missing goals from the goalsquare, 10 more players who cant continually hit targets


I think you better get a copy of the tape xXx and you will find that Richo hit his team mates up the ground today - didn't miss, also kicked 4.0 today so the missing goals and not hitting targets chestnut don't apply this week

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10 more players who will sook at all times to the umpire

But you'll take Fevola  :gobdrop

I'll take Richo, Richo Man  everytime :thumbsup

Richo = Champion

Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Passionfruit on July 22, 2007, 09:55:00 PM
Kangas play with passions and each will bleed for each other.
They are hard running players who will run through oppostion instead of dancing around them,,take note tiges, lol

Archer, Brown, Firrito,  Grant, Grima, Harris, Harvey, Jones, , no need to go on.
Thats why they will play finals while we are having our Best and Fairest count ::)
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 22, 2007, 10:40:38 PM
pashion does not win games

skill does

fevola no way, he is just another richo, but at least he can kick

lets just stick with cleve and jack
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: 2JD on July 23, 2007, 05:11:28 AM
I agree WP and Im not going to argue this out again. We need Richo, he is the heart and soul of the team and if we push him before he is ready then it will really hit the fan at punt road! He's not stupid, he will know when its time to go.
 well done yesterday Richo  :clapping
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on July 23, 2007, 09:14:45 AM
I agree WP and Im not going to argue this out again. We need Richo, he is the heart and soul of the team and if we push him before he is ready then it will really hit the fan at punt road! He's not stupid, he will know when its time to go.
 well done yesterday Richo  :clapping

can see him still out there captaining a serial wooden spoon team, but hey, who cares because richo and his walking stick at 50 will still be leading us with passion

we can go and watch the cho with his walking stick display passion week in week out

that would be fantastic  ::)

Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: one-eyed on August 19, 2007, 03:13:21 AM
What a boring world it would be without Richo polarising public opinion  :shh  :lol. SEN spent this morning taking calls and texts on the big fella.

Richo's stats vs West Coast

Kicks:        14
Handballs:   8
Disposals:  22
Marks:       15
Score:       3.2
Inside 50s:  4
Hitouts:       0
Tackles:       0
1st possie:   1
Clearances:  1
Errors:         7

http://stats.realfooty.com.au/prowesslive.php?season=AFL07&r=20&m=157
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: {X} on August 19, 2007, 08:56:33 AM
everyone knows what i think about richo
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: julzqld on August 19, 2007, 10:56:48 AM
What was meant to be a positive thread somehow turns into the negative :banghead
Title: Re: The Real Richo: The power of perception (Richo with Archer)
Post by: Stephanie on August 19, 2007, 06:37:18 PM
What was meant to be a positive thread somehow turns into the negative :banghead
Don't be surprised, seems to be happening alot lately  ::) :banghead