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Title: What happens when?
Post by: blaisee on July 24, 2007, 03:29:27 PM
The blues lose the rest of their games next season and get pick 1 in the draft in 2007.


Next year Richmond and Carlton both only win 4 games in the year, and both qualify for priority draft picks next year.

Who gets the number 1 pick then?
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: Beren on July 24, 2007, 03:34:16 PM
Good question. If Carlton get the priority pick this year... in that case they would be back to square one perhaps and have to wait till 2009?
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: the_boy_jake on July 24, 2007, 03:35:57 PM
I don't know. Probably whoever finishes lower.

But I'm not expecting the AFL to keep the rules the same 2 years running  ::)
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: {X} on July 24, 2007, 04:04:57 PM
we would get preference, iirc, it goes on a 2 yr cycle. thus carlton using this yr and last yrs
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: bluey_21 on July 24, 2007, 04:17:12 PM
we would get preference, iirc, it goes on a 2 yr cycle. thus carlton using this yr and last yrs

don't understand  ???
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: Bull on July 24, 2007, 05:52:34 PM
Further to what X said, i think they have to combine this years wins with next years.

2007 4 wins = 20 points
2008 4 wins = 20 points

total           = 40 points which i think is too much for a priority pick.

I THINK  ???
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: bluey_21 on July 24, 2007, 05:59:54 PM
from what I understand, if we win more than 4 matches next year but are still under the 2 year aggregate we dont get the before draft PP
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: the_boy_jake on July 24, 2007, 06:14:39 PM
Further to what X said, i think they have to combine this years wins with next years.

2007 4 wins = 20 points
2008 4 wins = 20 points

total           = 40 points which i think is too much for a priority pick.

I THINK  ???

So they use 5 points for a win in the draft system? What else can you get points for?
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: {X} on July 24, 2007, 06:26:09 PM
who teh f knows

the whole system sux
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: blaisee on July 24, 2007, 07:04:11 PM
Further to what X said, i think they have to combine this years wins with next years.

2007 4 wins = 20 points
2008 4 wins = 20 points

total           = 40 points which i think is too much for a priority pick.

I THINK  ???

that is true, but i think that you are all missing the point.

The point is as follows,

assuming richmond and the blues both win less than 4 games this year, carlton get pick 1 as a prioirty richmond get pick 2, melbourne get pick 3 and carlton get pick 4 and so on.


Lets say next year, richmond win 4 games , and the blues win 4 games, therfore we both qualify for priority picks, my question is, who gets pick 1 in 2008?
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: Bull on July 24, 2007, 07:17:29 PM
Further to what X said, i think they have to combine this years wins with next years.

2007 4 wins = 20 points
2008 4 wins = 20 points

total           = 40 points which i think is too much for a priority pick.

I THINK  ???

So they use 5 points for a win in the draft system? What else can you get points for?

Sorry Jake, its been a long day. I need the mathematic computer tudor.  :lol
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: Bull on July 24, 2007, 07:19:38 PM
Further to what X said, i think they have to combine this years wins with next years.

2007 4 wins = 20 points
2008 4 wins = 20 points

total           = 40 points which i think is too much for a priority pick.

I THINK  ???

that is true, but i think that you are all missing the point.

The point is as follows,

assuming richmond and the tigers both win less than 4 games this year, carlton get pick 1 as a prioirty richmond get pick 2, melbourne get pick 3 and carlton get pick 4 and so on.


Lets say next year, richmond win 4 games , and the blues win 4 games, therfore we both qualify for priority picks, my question is, who gets pick 1 in 2008?

I dont think they would get one Blaisee and either would we i think, isnt the cut off 5 wins? If so, we would have 5 and half (4 next year and 1 and a half this season)
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: blaisee on July 24, 2007, 07:28:08 PM
Further to what X said, i think they have to combine this years wins with next years.

2007 4 wins = 20 points
2008 4 wins = 20 points

total           = 40 points which i think is too much for a priority pick.

I THINK  ???

that is true, but i think that you are all missing the point.

The point is as follows,

assuming richmond and the tigers both win less than 4 games this year, carlton get pick 1 as a prioirty richmond get pick 2, melbourne get pick 3 and carlton get pick 4 and so on.


Lets say next year, richmond win 4 games , and the blues win 4 games, therfore we both qualify for priority picks, my question is, who gets pick 1 in 2008?

I dont think they would get one Blaisee and either would we i think, isnt the cut off 5 wins? If so, we would have 5 and half (4 next year and 1 and a half this season)

we would definetly get one and so would the blues,

who gets picck 1?
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: Bull on July 24, 2007, 07:28:51 PM
AFL revamps priority pick system

The AFL has been forced to make another change to its priority draft pick laws after accepting that under-performing teams were getting too much of an advantage.

Under the current laws, any team finishing with five or fewer wins gains one extra draft pick before the start of the first round of the draft.

Under the new laws, a team finishing with four or fewer wins will get an extra pick, but only after the first round of the draft.

However, if a team finishes with four or fewer wins for two consecutive years, it will gain a pick at the start of the draft as is the case under the current system.

http://www.abc.net.au/sport/content/200511/s1509486.htm (http://www.abc.net.au/sport/content/200511/s1509486.htm)
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: Passionfruit on July 24, 2007, 07:30:57 PM
What happens when the Blues offer to swap Fev to Richmond for Richmonds first pick at this years end
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: Bull on July 24, 2007, 07:31:42 PM
I understand it now Blaisee, you have to have 4 or fewer in both seasons, not combined.

If that was the case next season then the order would have to be the finishing order on the ladder.

So if Richmond and Carlton both win 4 games next season and we are 16th and they are 15th on the ladder then surely it would have to go in that order.
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: Ox on July 24, 2007, 07:43:14 PM
best way to get good players is to pay them in a brown paper bag under Punt road bridge twice a year,plus their basic wage.

Start shaking the cans kids.
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: Mopsy on July 24, 2007, 07:45:01 PM
What happens when the Blues offer to swap Fev to Richmond for Richmonds first pick at this years end
In true tiger tradition they will tell them to stick him up there black one!
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: one-eyed on August 02, 2007, 03:00:09 AM
Don't forget Melbourne will be eligible for a early priority pick too next year as well as Richmond and Carlton. The Dees can afford to win one more game without losing their PP.

The question is will they want to gift Carlton 2 selections before they have their first choice.

R22 - Melb def Carl:

Carl  1, 3, 22
Rich  2, 18, 20
Melb  4, 19, 21

R22 - Carl def Melb:

Rich  1, 17, 19
Melb  2, 18, 20
Carl   3, 21
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: blaisee on August 02, 2007, 08:56:00 AM
What happens when the Blues offer to swap Fev to Richmond for Richmonds first pick at this years end

WE TELL THEM TO GO JUMP
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: mightytiges on August 02, 2007, 06:00:39 PM
What happens when the Blues offer to swap Fev to Richmond for Richmonds first pick at this years end

WE TELL THEM TO GO JUMP
Yep. Why in our position would we give up our first pick for a 27 year old. Might as well shut Punt Rd down.

Let's hope the Dees tank more than the Blues in round 22  :pray.
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: cub on August 02, 2007, 10:09:49 PM
What happens when the Blues offer to swap Fev to Richmond for Richmonds first pick at this years end

WE TELL THEM TO GO JUMP
Yep. Why in our position would we give up our first pick for a 27 year old. Might as well shut Punt Rd down.

Let's hope the Dees tank more than the Blues in round 22  :pray.

LOL - They bounce the ball for the start of each qtr and then everyone just stands or sits in their spots for 20 minutes  :rollin
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: Mr Magic on August 03, 2007, 01:40:47 PM
Don't forget Melbourne will be eligible for a early priority pick too next year as well as Richmond and Carlton. The Dees can afford to win one more game without losing their PP.

The question is will they want to gift Carlton 2 selections before they have their first choice.

R22 - Melb def Carl:

Carl  1, 3, 22
Rich  2, 18, 20
Melb  4, 19, 21

R22 - Carl def Melb:

Rich  1, 17, 19
Melb  2, 18, 20
Carl   3, 21

I hope Melbourne just forfeit. Stuff the Blue scum!
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: wayne on August 03, 2007, 01:58:11 PM

LOL - They bounce the ball for the start of each qtr and then everyone just stands or sits in their spots for 20 minutes  :rollin

David Neitz wins the toss and points to the Punt Road end, meaning Melbourne will be kicking the other way.

The winner will be the team that can rush the most behinds.
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: mightytiges on August 03, 2007, 03:14:17 PM

LOL - They bounce the ball for the start of each qtr and then everyone just stands or sits in their spots for 20 minutes  :rollin

David Neitz wins the toss and points to the Punt Road end, meaning Melbourne will be kicking the other way.

The winner will be the team that can rush the most behinds.
There were Tiger supporters at training today saying they are going to this game to barrack for the Blues and they were serious  ;D.
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: bluey_21 on August 03, 2007, 03:18:45 PM

LOL - They bounce the ball for the start of each qtr and then everyone just stands or sits in their spots for 20 minutes  :rollin

David Neitz wins the toss and points to the Punt Road end, meaning Melbourne will be kicking the other way.

The winner will be the team that can rush the most behinds.
There were Tiger supporters at training today saying they are going to this game to barrack for the Blues and they were serious  ;D.

absolute gold  ;D  :thumbsup
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: mightytiges on August 04, 2007, 05:56:39 PM
Well if there is any further proof that Carlton are tanking it happened today. Ratten put Fev (6 goals), Scotland and Carrazzo (both 30 possies) on the bench at the same time in the last quarter with 10 mins to go. 
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: Ramps on August 04, 2007, 05:58:28 PM
We would be doing exactly the same in their situation. I dont blame them at all. They are doing whats in the best interests of their club.
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2007, 10:10:57 PM
After Melbourne's win tonight we will get either priority pick 17 or 18 then pick 19 will be our second round pick. 

R22 - Melb def Carl:

Carl  1, 3, 20
Rich  2, 18, 19
Melb  4, 21

R22 - Carl def Melb:

Rich  1, 17, 19
Melb  2, 18, 20
Carl   3, 21
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: Gordon Bennett on August 12, 2007, 09:57:39 AM
Next week Melbourne play Collingwood and Carlton play essendon - both might win
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: mightytiges on August 12, 2007, 05:52:32 PM
Next week Melbourne play Collingwood and Carlton play essendon - both might win
Fingers crossed GB.

The main thing is we keep our PP rather than whether we end up with pick 1 or 2.
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: one-eyed on August 16, 2007, 06:19:05 PM
Some much for the Bombers playing the kids with those ins. Going the tank with no Hille or Watson in the midfield :whistle

OUT: Ricky Dyson, David Hille, Damien Peverill, Jobe Watson (all omitted)

IN: Scott Camporeale, James Hird, Mark Johnson, Heath Hocking (2005 Rookie draft, Eastern Rangers)

Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 16, 2007, 07:55:21 PM
Some much for the Bombers playing the kids with those ins. Going the tank with no Hille or Watson in the midfield :whistle

OUT: Ricky Dyson, David Hille, Damien Peverill, Jobe Watson (all omitted)

IN: Scott Camporeale, James Hird, Mark Johnson, Heath Hocking (2005 Rookie draft, Eastern Rangers)



Yep certainly blooding the kids there ::)

Didn't anyone else read Caro's piece in the Age today about Sheeds - quoting the Chairman and how there's a communication problem at Bomber land between the players & Sheeds :shh  Not a great advertisement for a bloke trying to get another coaching gig  :whistle Things aren't or don't appear to be as peachy down at Windy Hill

But we wont go there  ;D
Title: Re: What happens when?
Post by: mightytiges on August 16, 2007, 10:25:59 PM
Some much for the Bombers playing the kids with those ins. Going the tank with no Hille or Watson in the midfield :whistle

OUT: Ricky Dyson, David Hille, Damien Peverill, Jobe Watson (all omitted)

IN: Scott Camporeale, James Hird, Mark Johnson, Heath Hocking (2005 Rookie draft, Eastern Rangers)



Yep certainly blooding the kids there ::)

Didn't anyone else read Caro's piece in the Age today about Sheeds - quoting the Chairman and how there's a communication problem at Bomber land between the players & Sheeds :shh  Not a great advertisement for a bloke trying to get another coaching gig  :whistle Things aren't or don't appear to be as peachy down at Windy Hill

But we wont go there  ;D
Yep the Sheeds to Richmond talk has gone pretty quiet in recent weeks  ;)