One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 27, 2007, 05:01:22 AM
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http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/geelong-nine-year-journey/2007/09/26/1190486397587.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
There's an article in the Age today about how Geelong, starting with a ageing list and huge debt, took 8 years to get to where they are now.
Plough likes to use Geelong to back up a lot of his statements and there are some similarities between us and Geelong's first 3 years under Costa, Cook and Bomber Thompson.
In 99 they drafted Enright, Corey, Chapman and Ling and got a young Mooney from North.
2004 - Lids, Tambo, Meyer, Patto, Polo, McGuane
They then in 2000 tried to top-up with Mitchell White and Justin Murphy which failed (a la Kingsley).
2005 - JON, Hughes, Casserly, White, P.Bowden
In 2001 they went back to a youth policy are drafted Jimmy Bartel, Steve Johnson, James Kelly and Gary Ablett (father-son rule).
2006 - Riewoldt, Edwards, Connors, Peterson, Collins, Polak, Kingsley
It took until 2004 (this Geelong side's "5th" year) for them to make the finals and that was after only winning 7 games the previous year.
Saturday will see whether this model works.
Your Thoughts?
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2004 won't reap us the quality that the Cats got in 99. We still should have 5 that make it, hopefully Meyer decides to get motivated.
2005 has scary similarities, looking at our list, hopefully one makes it.
2006 I think is our best recruiting effort (apart from idiot Kicksley), which reflects the Cats efforts in 2001.
I notice that they didn't draft many KPP in those three years.
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I notice that they didn't draft many KPP in those three years.
That does stand out doesn't it. Well spotted wayne.
1999:
Corey (8 ), Spriggs (15), Bray (17), Foster (23), Chapman (31), Ling (38), Enright (47)
Mooney (trade) for Colbert.
Cats scored big time mid-draft :o to make up for some misses early on.
2000:
Josh Hunt (44), Lowther (71)
Traded away early picks for Kingsley :P, White and Murphy.
Stuffed up this one big time. Did a Richmond trading away early picks and paid for it.
2001:
Bartel (8 ), Kelly (17), Gardiner (23), S.Johnson (24), G.Ablett (40, F/S), Playfair (41), McCarthy (69), D.Johnson (81)
Traded for Brent Grgic.
A great return from the 2001 superdraft for the Pussies. 4 of their current best 22 and 3 of them stars. Pick 17 was our pick originally ::).
So all up the Cats gained 9 of their current best 22 from those first 3 years under Thompson. Harley, Milburn, Scarlett, King & Wojcinski were pre-Thompson. Just shows it takes time to rebuild a list from scratch if you don't have a quality core to build around (Port had this quality core combined with smart recruiting to bounce up so quickly).
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Everyone will be following this Geelong model now and Plough will mention it often as he has already. 15 of their premiership side today were recruited back in 2001 or prior to it.
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http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/geelong-nine-year-journey/2007/09/26/1190486397587.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
There's an article in the Age today about how Geelong, starting with a ageing list and huge debt, took 8 years to get to where they are now.
Plough likes to use Geelong to back up a lot of his statements and there are some similarities between us and Geelong's first 3 years under Costa, Cook and Bomber Thompson.
In 99 they drafted Enright, Corey, Chapman and Ling and got a young Mooney from North.
2004 - Lids, Tambo, Meyer, Patto, Polo, McGuane
They then in 2000 tried to top-up with Mitchell White and Justin Murphy which failed (a la Kingsley).
2005 - JON, Hughes, Casserly, White, P.Bowden
In 2001 they went back to a youth policy are drafted Jimmy Bartel, Steve Johnson, James Kelly and Gary Ablett (father-son rule).
2006 - Riewoldt, Edwards, Connors, Peterson, Collins, Polak, Kingsley
It took until 2004 (this Geelong side's "5th" year) for them to make the finals and that was after only winning 7 games the previous year.
Saturday will see whether this model works.
Your Thoughts?
My thoughts, didnt Meyer and Hughes play in coburgs two,s last week ?
And as for JON, he cant play
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http://realfooty.com.au/news/news/geelong-nine-year-journey/2007/09/26/1190486397587.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
There's an article in the Age today about how Geelong, starting with a ageing list and huge debt, took 8 years to get to where they are now.
Plough likes to use Geelong to back up a lot of his statements and there are some similarities between us and Geelong's first 3 years under Costa, Cook and Bomber Thompson.
In 99 they drafted Enright, Corey, Chapman and Ling and got a young Mooney from North.
2004 - Lids, Tambo, Meyer, Patto, Polo, McGuane
They then in 2000 tried to top-up with Mitchell White and Justin Murphy which failed (a la Kingsley).
2005 - JON, Hughes, Casserly, White, P.Bowden
In 2001 they went back to a youth policy are drafted Jimmy Bartel, Steve Johnson, James Kelly and Gary Ablett (father-son rule).
2006 - Riewoldt, Edwards, Connors, Peterson, Collins, Polak, Kingsley
It took until 2004 (this Geelong side's "5th" year) for them to make the finals and that was after only winning 7 games the previous year.
Saturday will see whether this model works.
Your Thoughts?
My thoughts, didnt Meyer and Hughes play in coburgs two,s last week ?
And as for JON, he cant play
Meyer is injured (knee).
Geelong had 3 failed early picks in 99. West Coast had 3 first rounders who failed as well around that same period. Not every kid makes it no matter where they are picked up in the draft.
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In 99 they drafted Enright, Corey, Chapman and Ling and got a young Mooney from North.
2004 - Lids, Tambo, Meyer, Patto, Polo, McGuane
They then in 2000 tried to top-up with Mitchell White and Justin Murphy which failed (a la Kingsley).
2005 - JON, Hughes, Casserly, White, P.Bowden[/color]
In 2001 they went back to a youth policy are drafted Jimmy Bartel, Steve Johnson, James Kelly and Gary Ablett (father-son rule).
2006 - Riewoldt, Edwards, Connors, Peterson, Collins, Polak, Kingsley
Ive bolded where Geelong got it right and where we have it right. We have a massive way to go ... we are bottom because we are a bottom side.
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In 99 they drafted Enright, Corey, Chapman and Ling and got a young Mooney from North.
2004 - Lids, Tambo, Meyer, Patto, Polo, McGuane
They then in 2000 tried to top-up with Mitchell White and Justin Murphy which failed (a la Kingsley).
2005 - JON, Hughes, Casserly, White, P.Bowden[/color]
In 2001 they went back to a youth policy are drafted Jimmy Bartel, Steve Johnson, James Kelly and Gary Ablett (father-son rule).
2006 - Riewoldt, Edwards, Connors, Peterson, Collins, Polak, Kingsley
Ive bolded where Geelong got it right and where we have it right. We have a massive way to go ... we are bottom because we are a bottom side.
And two years ago Kelly and Bartel were mentioned as trades as duds. It takes time for player to come on so your appraisal of which of our draft picks will flourish needs to be given the same time to be determined. Too early to judge whether your opinion on non-highlighted RFC draft picks is correct.
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It's embarressing when plough compares us to the Geelong model.
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and if I remember correctly we were chasing bartel pretty hard, who said Miller didn't have an eye for talent ::) :lol