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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Tigermonk on October 02, 2007, 08:25:27 PM
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what l really think
Richmond owns a wooden spoon thats how good thier players are
what a shame to have 2 spoons in 4 years
dont pump any of them up in the players review cause there all disgrace
stuffing disgraceful after leading the supporters to think they going to have a great year
The Tiger Movement 2007 from 9th to wooden spoon what a stuffing group of toothless tigers
wouldnot know what it means to play for the jumper fair dinkum
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had too much to drink have we monk ;D ;) :lol
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very bad --- wooden spoon ... can't say it was promising !!!
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what l really think
Richmond owns a wooden spoon thats how good thier players are
what a shame to have 2 spoons in 4 years
dont pump any of them up in the players review cause there all disgrace
effing disgraceful after leading the supporters to think they going to have a great year
The Tiger Movement 2007 from 9th to wooden spoon what a effing group of toothless tigers
wouldnot know what it means to play for the jumper fair dinkum
I must concur.
Still,I see many positives coming from other moves within the club.
Axing gaspar and appointing Thursfield.
Foleys work rate and professional approach toward training.
Deledio mixing the role of carrier and 2nd3rd Reliable option up forward.
Jake Kings love of playing footy and being a great team player.
Patos development.
Polak as basically a utility but with time and practice should become another great option for goals.
McGuane - he has pace big time and ticker as well as cunning.Ii believe he can be a required player.
Newman deserves props for his recovery from the terrible break in his leg.
Still runs like the wind and can be used as a pinch hitter from outside 50 ala Leon Cameron.
Add to that list Jackson.
Browny is a chance at regaining his match winning brilliance with consistency.
Bowden was servicable once he took his anxiety pills.
Richo was a mature version of Richo.
Tambling,imo,will make or break in 08.Its up to how he spends his spare time over the break.
re krakouer - if we lose him to her majesty's bluestone Inn,can we be compensated by the AFL????
sURELY SOMETHING.
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had too much to drink have we monk ;D ;) :lol
So sad when people let alcohol control their lives.
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Still,I see many positives coming from other moves within the club.
Axing gaspar and appointing Thursfield.
Foleys work rate and professional approach toward training.
Deledio mixing the role of carrier and 2nd3rd Reliable option up forward.
Jake Kings love of playing footy and being a great team player.
Patos development.
Polak as basically a utility but with time and practice should become another great option for goals.
McGuane - he has pace big time and ticker as well as cunning.Ii believe he can be a required player.
Newman deserves props for his recovery from the terrible break in his leg.
Still runs like the wind and can be used as a pinch hitter from outside 50 ala Leon Cameron.
Add to that list Jackson.
Browny is a chance at regaining his match winning brilliance with consistency.
Bowden was servicable once he took his anxiety pills.
Richo was a mature version of Richo.
Tambling,imo,will make or break in 08.Its up to how he spends his spare time over the break.
re krakouer - if we lose him to her majesty's bluestone Inn,can we be compensated by the AFL????
sURELY SOMETHING.
At last, the voice of reason. No point in wallowing in the past now - gotta move on and learn from our mistakes.
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had too much to drink have we monk ;D ;) :lol
So sad when people let alcohol control their lives.
So stuffing sad when people get it wrong l aint had a drink for some time thanks very much maybe l just should stop writing here if thats what some think & leave forums altogether because alot of supporters are happy to sit back watch the turmoil & when its to late call for change before forcing change
l'm talkin in a football manner not fueled by any other means l'm a paying supporter since the late 70's l got every right to tell it how it really is
l'm purely stating the facts that Richmond are stuffing disgraceful to own 2 wooden spoons in 4 years of football
if anyone is happy with that since Terry Wallace come along to so called save us & make the Tigers into a competitive club you all must be blind & stupid to keep giving your money to a media spinning mouse trap
since Wallace has been at the club we bottomed out even more
This year we broke every record in the club & AFL history of going backwards the worst defeat in AFL history thats a nice tag to own aint any club gunna beat that ever
mass floggings & a coach & board who decide to start youth into his third term thats got me stuffing dumbfounded
The teams are still over run after leading at halftime only to crumble under the same manner as coach frawley who l think is much better than Wallace & we still cop floggings when there is a few points in it into the last quarter sometimes with Richmond holding the balance of the game only to go down still by a fair margin
l see the same skill errors, turnovers, kicking to or at anything, bad decision making & this year players crashing into each other often
along comes Jake King & shows them all up the mans a champion a mild midget who can burst through the play hot & still hit his target but Raines who is being taught for many years cant get it right runs hot when no-one is behind him bang turns it over WHY its another goal to the other team week after week
cause his been coached wrong his going backwards like most of the playing group we are pissants in floppy jumpers we are undersized in all departments
Coach Wallace plays players who are injured & use it as a excuse later in his beloved aftermatch media show & Terry on Tuesdays
come on Johnson playing with a broken bone in his hand what value is he out there at AFL level like that he surely dont talk his players up & his presence is overwhelming the players to play serious football in the meantime some 100% fit player is missing his chance for the year he will go backwards & want to leave like Krakouer but we talk him into staying his a good skinny under sized player he can run but notice he aint been doing to much of that in the VFL cause he dont want to be there St-Kilda are stalking him & so are West Coast & freo
always blaming it on the youngsters thats just pure crap every other teams youngsters are burning
Thomas Pendebury Franklin Lewis Roughhead Gibbs Murphy Selwood, Goldsack and many others grab the game by the balls look at there height & build
Other clubs branded worse than our list are playing in finals in Kangaroos & Hawthorn you can stick Adelaide in there they seem to always rebuild but stuffed if Richmond can we cant win the same amount if not half the games these poo clubs win
Richmond is stuck on the DAVID BOURKE IMAGE some departments down there just never change you walkk in the door & say you still work here what a bunch of jokers l be getting Sharon Anyos down there she is fitter than them pissants & she smack the ears off everyone of them
http://www.sharonanyos.com/bio/index.htm
Answer this one ??? just about every Richmond supporter here knows we match up good against Collingwood well thats good we know that so if Collingwood are making the finals with a broken down list full of injuries & there young drafts are getting them up why cant our club do that if Collingwood can match up to other teams & beat them then maybe Wallace should be asking himself maybe l'm not good enough for the job cause malthouse can do it but l'm failing duh
Everyone has seen Wallace & his crazy team setup with players played out of position & changes he makes when the games in the balance & his placing of players on the bench at most critical times duh
when we got something good they leave the club because no other football club is run like the tigers even Clinton Casey is not happy after seeing whats happened after he left that also tells uas Gary March is not the man we need someone in there who will run the club as a major buisness
the poor recruiting of Kingsley, Graham, Knobel, holding onto Hall & getting rid of Rodan why does Richmond continue to recruit wornout players who give nothing to the club
most of our trades & draftees from other clubs are useless and no value after we tryed them cause no other club wants them so Richmond take them for one year then say to them they no good well thats what the other club said to them thats why they comming to Richmond HELLO
l cant think what did we get for David Rodan that 2 times Morrish medalist who had a good year ????
A comedy of critcal errors seen by a so called drunk fueled supporter who aint been drinking & dont smoke or do drugs just has had alot of football experience in playing & coaching & 30 years of it & mixed it with the best
if this is what l pay my money for to see pathetic crap like Richmond l gunna write about them how l feel a very disgruntled supporter who knows there are people who can do better at that club than whats there now
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Good post Monk.
I dont agree with everything you've written but it's written with passion.
Our year I give a 2.
1 for Browny finally coming good and Richo still giving 110%.
And 1 for a few kids who put a bit of a shining light on the season.
Other than that? stuffing disgusting. :banghead
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I know there were some little positives, but I am god damn sick of looking for these things.
It was so good going to the Storm Grand final and I just want RFC up there again.
and the games I saw at olympic park.
Pox year sick to death of being a laughing stock and people actually liking or not minding us this era.
I want to be fu$%ken hated by anyone who does not follow us.
Sick of the constant poo this club has become :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Wallace needs to get some bigger bodies into the picture otherwise we will end up being like the Bulldogs this year. :banghead
Did I mention I am sick of it ...... Hate it to be honest
Makes me feel literally sick thinking about it after the great Sunday I just had. :banghead
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funny you say that CUB l hate rugby yet forced myself to watch it because l wanted to see them win
l think its a passion for sport us Victorians crave
l dont understand there game & the rules but at least they won
but its the same type of battle 1999 l think they won then played last year lost then won this year
Richmond cant even give their supporters anything to support you can go to a game & know your gunna get flogged
they always blame it on bloody youth this & that but most clubs have done the circle up & down but Richmond purely stay down yet they say its the supporters who fail them by not turning up to games & memberships are down they always go broke 3 times in my era
Membership was a record for the club this year after years of buildup & the club continues to deliver the supporters nothing to rant about except for how poo they are thats all we got to talk about
yeah there some +'s this year but l know what will happen is some club will offer our players who are sick of having no success like Ottens and will leave & find it & Richmond & its supporters will be down the poo shute again
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The AFL site has done Richmond's 2007 report card. Overall we were given a D.
http://www.afl.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=52083
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I've rated players based on their individual years.
As a whole the Club gets 3.5 out of 10 - the year was unacceptable.
However the players I've rated I reckon they were the bright lights in otherwise bleak season.
Once MT puts up a couple I reckon had average years the ratings will reflect that.
But the truth is there were some postives - to see some of the kids come through gives me hope for the future. Thursfield, McGuane, Edwards, King, Connors, Jack, Lids improvement, Richo giving 200% week in week out - these are good things.
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I actually agree with Tigermonk 99.9%.
Seems that the monk is either close to someone at the club or is in the know? ;)
Would rate the year 1/10 and thats for fielding a team each week,
Year was a disgrace!
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Everyone knows the year was terrible. We've all copped it from opposition supporters. Why drag it all up again here. No-one can re-write what happened - what's done is done. Look forward, learn from the past and get on with it.
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I've rated players based on their individual years.
As a whole the Club gets 3.5 out of 10 - the year was unacceptable.
However the players I've rated I reckon they were the bright lights in otherwise bleak season.
Once MT puts up a couple I reckon had average years the ratings will reflect that.
But the truth is there were some postives - to see some of the kids come through gives me hope for the future. Thursfield, McGuane, Edwards, King, Connors, Jack, Lids improvement, Richo giving 200% week in week out - these are good things.
The truth is Thursfield has not developed his got skills but is to floppy in that big jumper
l dont know what you watch at the club when you go down there but your bypassing reality of AFL progress
Go have a look at other clubs just not your own for a change see how they go about buisness
Thursfield has been in the system a few years now "yet his fragile" his under progressed even that he injured his knee you can still build the top of your body with the condition coaches which he had a year & a half to do yet his fragile l wipe him out with a good hit myself
Put Roughhead on him he get pumped by the lad & Roughhead put mass body weight on since being drafted so whos doing the work the player who wants to be a part of success & got the correct conditioning staff or are we lacking the input from both ???
they need some personal trainers to tell them what there being paid to do & thats play AFL level football maybe X could go down there help build them up a bloke with passion his got half the team would collapse under the strain of really how much work is required
Wallace said our fitness level & size was underdone so much when he arrived yet l still see some of the same people working there how stuffing dumb is that gee l seen it first hand
Put Franklin on McGuane we lose again
thats our future backline well l dont know if you remember but l can see another Dunstall type era comming up because those Hawk forwards are gunna be future champions who might pass the Bereton & Dunstall era nothing worse than watching a player kick 17 goals on one day on your team what a era cause l see it all other again
Edwards tell me what you know of Edwards his played how many AFL games his broken down all ready does that tell you something again his underdone
The only one with balls & courage down there is Jake King the mad midget l rate him higher than anyone at the club his done his job this year plays like his got McGuane & Thursfields height
Conners yeah bloke can take a grab win the ball but his got a huge attitude problem & needs to be pulled into line cause his not a team player the way he is at present he will knock your men over going for glory he would fly with your forwards like Richo knocking him out of the contest while his opponant waits on the ground after he crashed to clear the ball when he stuffs up why did he get dropped from the senior side if he was so great or was Wallace tanking oh the shame paying to watch football knowing your team not going to try to win thats gutless patchetic football no wonder the tiger supporters are unhappy & remember not all of them have internet to express themselves they dump poo at the clubs door instead
Jack Rewoldt haha his a joke like Jokeley Nicholls he aint done nothing yet & he done nothing in the VFL grand final so if he cant handle VFL preasure at his age then he sure aint gunna do anything at league level
So you got Lids he should be setting the world on fire & being talked about like Franklin but his not cause his struggling like Tambling & Raines & Boweden & Newman there all going backwards
Richo l can say his trying his hardest but his coach is letting him down by playing him at Full Forward when he is better up the ground CHF so he can help out on the wings he seems to be always on
so where am l going here with all this its points to what l said from the start its the Coach, Assistant coaches, Conditioning staff & so on & so that also runs back to the president & the board for over looking why thier buisness is crumbling around them people you wouldnot have running your buisness for you cause you be broke after a few years & being a buinessman l know how there run & what keeps them ticking if any of my workers were not doing there part then l simplying sack them its like Richmond hanging onto Hall who dont play a game then sack him end of year but they paid him for nothing & got nothing but should have keeped Rodan who was the best 80+ draft pickup man thats is a stuffing joke so the club gets nothing for him & we pay hall for nothing thats a double loss in buisness they be screaming for more of your membership money cause stuff they aint getting my lot of memberships this year l be buying into AFL memberships 7 in total
some of the players get in the gym & talk more than they push
So the buisness is failing down at Tigerland the people you so much love aint doing the jobs they are enplaced in including the players thats why we won a few spoons recently something l'm really totaly against
Keeping Hall & releasing Rodan a dual Morrish medalist thats the stuffing joke of AFL football
Losing a All Australian defender Gasper when his form was ok in the first few weeks telling him skinny kids are equal to him & at his level :rollin
l be spilling the board for even thinking and doing such a thing & Knobel well he got told early as well he had his new nest long before he left again a lose for the club he was paidout for no service & to top it all off Kingsley well most of the supporters said dont draft these type of players but Richmond always do & we got zip out of him dont Richmond understand when a club get rid of someone like that we cant go soft and feel sorry for the player cause his poo his time is up this is why the Gasper saga gets me fired up anyway time for work have a dribble on this for the day l sure you see the points l make it starts at the top with March & goes to the bottom the players
When l say we have a good list its not managed well at all
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I actually agree with Tigermonk 99.9%.
Seems that the monk is either close to someone at the club or is in the know? ;)
Would rate the year 1/10 and thats for fielding a team each week,
Year was a disgrace!
close to all of them ;D l'm the skelton in the closet :sleep
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Everyone knows the year was terrible. We've all copped it from opposition supporters. Why drag it all up again here. No-one can re-write what happened - what's done is done. Look forward, learn from the past and get on with it.
You know how many times l heard them words learn from the past get on with it
well everyone keeps seeing the same mistakes year after year & the more publicty these mistakes get someone might see the mouse trap come closing shut & see some changes where needed
changes l like to see is a media clamp on the club from president to players
Keeping certain journalist out of the club
Staff changes & going after the best people for the jobs
A change to medical processes & rehabilitation of players
The correct decisions made of players with long term injuries like Hall, Coughlan, Knobel, & many others over the years
A stronger representation by our officials to the AFL about our draw & other issues like interstate games & home games away from our home are things just to start
Then a change of Capataincy surely thats on the cards
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End of season review: Richmond
4:43 PM Thu 4 October, 2007
Jason Phelan
for richmondfc.com.au
http://www.richmondfc.com.au/Season2007/News/NewsArticle/tabid/6301/Default.aspx?newsId=52147
The club says: Football operations manager Paul Armstrong -
“I don’t think this year we really recovered after losing Mark Coughlan, Troy Simmonds and Nathan Brown early in the piece, not all necessarily because of the pre-season training program.
Simmonds broke his ankle, re-injured it after coming back, and late in the season had a virus for a while. And, when we were helping him recover from the virus, they discovered a clot in his lung. He has been under treatment for that since and is going really well and we see no reason why he will not be 100 per cent next year.
Mark Coughlan has been in training for the last couple of weeks, so once we recommence, he will be in full training straight away. So they are both positives. And Nathan has come through the latter-half of the season really well.”
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and whats that post to the thread there one eyed its telling us about injuries
3 players out of a side dont cause it to rock bottom
take a look at Kangaroos, Brisbane, Collingwood, Essendon, West Coast, Western Bulldogs, Adelaide there got many major players out still winning games & some teams playing finals this year missing players most the season
Its the same poo you supporters & Richmond officials resort to everytime Richmond bottom out you grasp excuses
aw aw we had injuries but you refuse to see past the fence your watching over
stuff we have injuries every year same as other clubs but none crumble like the toothless tigers
l see alot of posters dont want in on this thread are they worried the truth hurts what l'm saying
Dont ever say Richmond is having a bad season because of injuries cause its not the case
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I hope the rumour isnt true that the wooden spoooners couldnt have a crack at Judd because there is no room in the salary cap ? ::) ::) ::)
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I hope the rumour isnt true that the wooden spoooners couldnt have a crack at Judd because there is no room in the salary cap ? ::) ::) ::)
well they aint got much down there l dont know who is earning it all
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I hope the rumour isnt true that the wooden spoooners couldnt have a crack at Judd because there is no room in the salary cap ? ::) ::) ::)
well they aint got much down there l dont know who is earning it all
Surely not lads. :help
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I hope the rumour isnt true that the wooden spoooners couldnt have a crack at Judd because there is no room in the salary cap ? ::) ::) ::)
Judd dont wanna come to Richmond we have a very poor history & we dont treat our past players well
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Everyone knows the year was terrible. We've all copped it from opposition supporters. Why drag it all up again here. No-one can re-write what happened - what's done is done. Look forward, learn from the past and get on with it.
You know how many times l heard them words learn from the past get on with it
well everyone keeps seeing the same mistakes year after year & the more publicty these mistakes get someone might see the mouse trap come closing shut & see some changes where needed
changes l like to see is a media clamp on the club from president to players
Keeping certain journalist out of the club
Staff changes & going after the best people for the jobs
A change to medical processes & rehabilitation of players
The correct decisions made of players with long term injuries like Hall, Coughlan, Knobel, & many others over the years
A stronger representation by our officials to the AFL about our draw & other issues like interstate games & home games away from our home are things just to start
Then a change of Capataincy surely thats on the cards
Well seeing you put it that way - yes I agree.
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I hope the rumour isnt true that the wooden spoooners couldnt have a crack at Judd because there is no room in the salary cap ? ::) ::) ::)
That was put to bed yesterday Jack after that rumour was wandering around for about a week.
We probably done as much space as Carlton have to offer but we certainly have space to offer him what he is worth. Which imho is 750000-800000 max.
And over 5 years he could be content with that because what's to say Judd isnt the next Aaron Hamill. :shh
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As l stated previously Judd has to overcome a huge injury problem
His prone to injury & most top footballers who are like that never recover to the glory years but l love watching him
only thing the umpires got there own rules when his got the ball getting spun around 360 is holding the ball regardless if you break the tackle
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richmonds year
in a nutshell
pathetic
last last last
spoon spoon spoon
same old spin, same 0ld problems
we have pathetic fitness staff, pathetic rehab staff, pathetic coaching staff
a president that has no place in the afl pecking order and does not command respect. when is teh last time we had a presidentthat had power and presence?
skills never seem to improve at our club
lack of leadership, on and off feild
0.5/10
0.5 thanks to foley and polak
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As l stated previously Judd has to overcome a huge injury problem
His prone to injury & most top footballers who are like that never recover to the glory years but l love watching him
only thing the umpires got there own rules when his got the ball getting spun around 360 is holding the ball regardless if you break the tackle
Agree Tigermonk about Judd and other star players getting special treatment with the umps when it comes to holding the ball but Judd is hardly injury prone. The groin problem he has now is the first significant injury he's copped in his AFL career. He missed only 1 game since 2002 before this year. In his junior career there was concern about his shoulders (which is why Hodge and Ball went before him in the 2001 draft) but that's been proven false.
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I hope the rumour isnt true that the wooden spoooners couldnt have a crack at Judd because there is no room in the salary cap ? ::) ::) ::)
Absolutely not true.
;) :shh :whistle ;D
:gotigers
a president that has no place in the afl pecking order and does not command respect. when is teh last time we had a presidentthat had power and presence?
xXx you'd be surprised how well respected Gary March is, especially at AFL level. Not all presidents have to be Eddie McEverywhere thankfully