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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on January 13, 2008, 12:38:40 PM
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Tony Shaw and Rohan Connolly are on 3aw now. They got onto us and Lids and said us thinking he'll play forward is an admission of defeat as we recruited him as a gun midfielder.
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Those two are mental giants - for other mental giants.
Basically...lmao
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LOL Ox
Hird must have been a dud all his career because he played in different position and wasn't purely a gun midfielder :wallywink.
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Must be a slow footy news day
We recruit Lids as a gun midfielder and he turns out to be a gun forward
So we have to recruit another gun midfielder and not a gun forward ... damn what a problem.
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Must be a slow footy news day
We recruit Lids as a gun midfielder and he turns out to be a gun forward
So we have to recruit another gun midfielder and not a gun forward ... damn what a problem.
we did already, we got cotchin ;D
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Just listening to Tony Shaw should be an admission of defeat.
The guy just is dribble. Did he mention the TAC sponsorship and Eddie's alledged pulling out of the deal as a defeat for the Skunks? :whistle
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3AWs football ratings are going to get trashed this year. Clinton Grybas hosting the coverage was one of the primary reasons to listen. 3AW are in all sorts of trouble for mine ratings wise. Looks like Triple M for me now for RFC matches.
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Honestly. I would of thought its waste playing Lids up forward.
He was recruited as a midfielder.
Cant see why he couldnt play like Judd.
After all, he was pick 1 in an fantastic draft.
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shaw and connolly are muppets but i agree with them, we need lids in the middle and although he is handy up forward i think he has a lot more to offer in the centre
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LOL Ox
Hird must have been a dud all his career because he played in different position and wasn't purely a gun midfielder :wallywink.
for real.
Sheedy must have conceded defeat throughout the entire period,also,according to zig and zags analogy.
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The problem Lids has is whenever he moves into the centre he cops the No 1 tag. The opposition coaches easily rate him at 20 years old higher than any of our senior players. It's easy to say he should play like Judd but even Judd had Cousins, Kerr, Fletcher, Braun, etc around him to give the opposition headaches on who to tag. As damaging midfielders we have Foley and umm .... ummm .... :-\. It's too easy to shut down our midfield. Hopefully Cogs and Browny can get back to their best along with some of our cubs stepping up to cut Foley and Lids some slack.
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LOL Ox
Hird must have been a dud all his career because he played in different position and wasn't purely a gun midfielder :wallywink.
for real.
Sheedy must have conceded defeat throughout the entire period,also,according to zig and zags analogy.
Says it all when Shaw taught Spud everything he knew :wallywink.
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Care factor about what Tony Shaw thinks = 0.
Unfortunately the last time I was rude about Tony Shaw's thinking or lack of was when he predicted Tigers would be 16th in 2007. Whoops. I suppose I have no one else to blame. If anyone should recognise a wooden spoon side it would be Tony. Years of practice coaching them and mentoring wooden spoon coaches. An expert in the field. I actually feel he is so good at it that he can take great pride in our 2007 spoon. His protege can take more credit for the 2007 spoon 3 years after he stopped coaching us than the current coach.
Well played Tony, well played. :clapping
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LOL Ox
Hird must have been a dud all his career because he played in different position and wasn't purely a gun midfielder :wallywink.
for real.
Sheedy must have conceded defeat throughout the entire period,also,according to zig and zags analogy.
Says it all when Shaw taught Spud everything he knew :wallywink.
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LOL. Geez those win/loss records are damning :yep.
I still remember his tampered wikipedia page too :D.
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The problem Lids has is whenever he moves into the centre he cops the No 1 tag. The opposition coaches easily rate him at 20 years old higher than any of our senior players. It's easy to say he should play like Judd but even Judd had Cousins, Kerr, Fletcher, Braun, etc around him to give the opposition headaches on who to tag. As damaging midfielders we have Foley and umm .... ummm .... :-\. It's too easy to shut down our midfield. Hopefully Cogs and Browny can get back to their best along with some of our cubs stepping up to cut Foley and Lids some slack.
MT, you've hit the nail on the head.
Pity more media scribes do little research and just fire pre-conceptions without due thought.
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Tony Shaw still has a job in media circles? :o
I may be wrong but wasn't Deledio's strength up predominantly up forward when he was a junior?
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He was always a utility even at junior level. Played all over the ground and pinch hitted up forward often.
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Tony Shaw still has a job in media circles? :o
I may be wrong but wasn't Deledio's strength up predominantly up forward when he was a junior?
If you fail miserably in coaching like Spud and Shaw you get the red carpet treatment into the media to preach your dogma to the masses to only re assert the fans view on why they fail in coaching and got sacked in the first place. Its a Green Card to toilet talk in their case if you ask me.
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He was always a utility even at junior level. Played all over the ground and pinch hitted up forward often.
Thanks Infamy.
I didn't think he was a specialist mid.
It may be harsh but I would hope though that one of Deledio of Tambling goes on to become an absolute gun given that we passed up the likes of Lewis in '04 who is a true mid and delivering more than either of those guys at this point.
'04 was the year we drafted for midfielders at the expense of KPPs so hopefully one of those players we chose at 1 & 4 can make a valuable long term contribution in the middle.
Looking more like to be Tambling at this stage IMO as I think Lids will predominantly be a forward and a very good one at that.
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Fact is he's a gun.
If he's a gun forward, then he solves a problem we could have when Richo goes. I have said it before in another topic, but when Lids gets to 26-27 he could be turned into a 100kg power forward in the mould of Gehrig. Quick, strong and classy.
The midfield is promising anyway, Connors, Cotchin, Foley, Tambling, Edwards, Polo... We could also be lucky and have Collins, Collard or White turn into another good player in the middle.
I don't know how it's an admission of defeat, many players have been drafted for a certain role but end up in a different position.
Lockett was a ruckman wasn't he?
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Not sure about Lockett but Disco Roach started on a wing. Peter Burgoyne spent 3-4 years playing forward pocket before he moved into the midfield. According to idiot Shaw, Lids being versatile and good enough to play in a number of positions is a bad thing ???.
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Fact is he's a gun.
That's not a fact at all.
Deledio shows plenty of promise but he's not a gun yet.
Plenty of areas he can improve his game IMO.
Hopefully by the end of this season we can say it's a fact.
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i just find it amazing that he kicks 5 goals on a dud like toovey and people suddenly believe he is our next ff, there are no gurantees he will be a gun up forward either because if he starts playing their on a permanent basis he will be getting a lot better defenders than the likes of toovey
hird comparisons are all well and good but hird was played in the centre on many occasions and when the bombers needed a centre clearance he was the one who got them up and running, lids is at the point now where he needs to grab the games by the neck and the best place for that is the middle
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That's not a fact at all.
It's a very biased fact :lol
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I'd love to see Lids groomed as our next key forward.
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Lids has a great pair of hands. Is the fastest in the club? and is a beautiful kick. May we be seeing another dare I say it .......Gary Ablett. Ablett was 185cm / 97kg and lids is 188cm and putting on weight as we speek. Hmmmmm!!!
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The easiest response to this crap is to ask Tony Shaw if he'd have Brett down at the Pies? :wallywink
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Lids has a great pair of hands. Is the fastest in the club? and is a beautiful kick. May we be seeing another dare I say it .......Gary Ablett. Ablett was 185cm / 97kg and lids is 188cm and putting on weight as we speek. Hmmmmm!!!
I'd be happy to go shopping for another midfielder if this happened! :thumbsup
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Why not play Lids from CHF where he can move up into the midfield if he is out sized by his defender or move deep into the forwardline to out mark/lead his opponent if he is tagged. Best of both worlds and keeps the opposition guessing. It also gives him the flexibility to change his role depending on the needs of the team.
Regardless I think he will play out of the square this year and run off more than one opponent with ease.
He will be a star....and yes I am biased - why else would I be here? :lol
Stripes
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Why not play Lids from CHF where he can move up into the midfield if he is out sized by his defender or move deep into the forwardline to out mark/lead his opponent if he is tagged. Best of both worlds and keeps the opposition guessing. It also gives him the flexibility to change his role depending on the needs of the team.
Regardless I think he will play out of the square this year and run off more than one opponent with ease.
He will be a star....and yes I am biased - why else would I be here? :lol
Stripes
LOL nothing wrong with that :thumbsup
I guess at FF he doesn't have to worry about his opponent rebounding and dragging him up the ground. Like you say Stripes he can play out of the square and give the opposition coach major headaches. Put on a small opponent who can go with Lids and Lids will be too tall epsecially given his good hands; Put a taller slower defender on Lids and he'll be left for dead.
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I'd love to see Lids groomed as our next key forward.
and see him get smashed after every marking contest when sides begin to target him?
i just feel he is still young and learning the game and should not be expected to play a key forward post because we have no other options
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I'd love to see Lids groomed as our next key forward.
and see him get smashed after every marking contest when sides begin to target him?
I don't think you have been reading the reports.
By all accounts Brett is not only the fastest player on our list but the strongest as well.
He is a very capable OH mark and after 3 full seasons he can handle himself.
Might just smash a few others in the marking contest. 8)
Besides which Richo & Polak? will do much of the heavy contested marking at this point.
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id like to see him become our Brad Johnson.
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In the 3-prong attack on Friday it was Jack and Cleve who had the ball planted on their heads. Lids was used mainly as a leading forward from the goalsquare into space. Only once was he involved in a crash pack and that was really he and Jack going for the same mark.
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In the 3-prong attack on Friday it was Jack and Cleve who had the ball planted on their heads. Lids was used mainly as a leading forward from the goalsquare into space. Only once was he involved in a crash pack and that was really he and Jack going for the same mark.
What role did they have Schulz playing?
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What role did they have Schulz playing?
Sarge played CHB on Polak.
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i reckon deledio will be good up forward but when we recruited he and tambling we did so because our midfield was a shambles, those 2 guys were going to add pace and skill into our engine room
now it looks like neither will play midfield in 08
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i reckon deledio will be good up forward but when we recruited he and tambling we did so because our midfield was a shambles, those 2 guys were going to add pace and skill into our engine room
now it looks like neither will play midfield in 08
Tambling will be a midfielder. He is also pretty good on the lead out of full forward with a decent overhead mark. Interchange Lids and Bling maybe?
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What role did they have Schulz playing?
Sarge played CHB on Polak.
How did they go respectively on one another MT?
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What role did they have Schulz playing?
Sarge played CHB on Polak.
How did they go respectively on one another MT?
They were mainly bypassed as the Yellow team's mids were able to run forward of centre and kick deeper more towards Hughes, Jack and Lids. In the couple of contests Polak and Sarge were involved in it was a pack situation and Sarge was able to spoil. No real influence from either in the 30 minute scratch match.
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No real influence from either in the 30 minute scratch match.
Ta MT, I was afraid you'd say that.
Not convinced that this switching roles idea is a great one yet.
We'll need at least one of these two to finally become a good player if there is to be some success at Richmond in the next five years.