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Title: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: mightytiges on February 02, 2008, 01:37:24 PM
Rohan Connolly reckons Cotch will win the rising star this year as Cotch will stand out in a back-to-back wooden spoon side.
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: Moi on February 02, 2008, 01:43:53 PM
Rohan Connolly reckons Cotch will win the rising star this year as Cotch will stand out in a back-to-back wooden spoon side.
Get stuffed Rohan  ::)
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: mightytiges on February 02, 2008, 01:50:55 PM
Get stuffed Rohan  ::)
Rohan can't handle that his beloved Bombers have come in from $7 into $5 favourites for the spoon  ;) :lol.
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: Moi on February 02, 2008, 01:53:14 PM
Get stuffed Rohan  ::)
Rohan can't handle that his beloved Bombers have come in from $7 into $5 favourites for the spoon  ;) :lol.
He's in for an awful shock then  :wallywink
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: mightytiges on February 02, 2008, 02:18:31 PM
Get stuffed Rohan  ::)
Rohan can't handle that his beloved Bombers have come in from $7 into $5 favourites for the spoon  ;) :lol.
He's in for an awful shock then  :wallywink
LOL

He like most Bomber fans have conveniently forgotten their best player and reigning best & fairest has just retired and they won only 2 games in the second half of 2007 one of which was to a tanking Carlton.
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 02, 2008, 02:41:52 PM
Ahahahahahahah Rohan Connolly and 99.95% of Essendon supporters
welcome to stage 1 Head in the Sand- what the last 3 or 4 years have been for you all but despite the signals you were given you have managed to dig your head deeper into the sand.
Then comes Stage 2 Fear, maybe if I took the time to take all the sand out of my eyes then I would not have obstructed vision and really know what my plight is and the path I am going down. Oh no we can't be that crap. I know Collingwood are and Carlton and Richmond have won spoons but not us.

Stage 3 Reassurances- Yes someone from EFC board endorsing the coach and the team and admitting in a half baked way that they have on field problems and that they are working feverishly hard to rectify them as these results are Un Essendon Like.
About 1 win in their next 8 games should send them onto stage 4.

Stage 4 Anger  Anger will set in when they will suffer a humiliating 100+ point loss. How can a team ladled with talent like the Bombers lose like that. What are they doing. Its a shame Its a shame Its a shame. These players are good enough. Hopefully the end of the season is nigh by then and most of these yokels can move on successfully to the next stage. Footy talk back hot lines will be clogged by Essendon fans places that were once upon a time left open for Richmond fans experiencing the same downs.

Stage 5 Optimism. With the new pre season comes new hopes new dreams new challenges and quick fix solutions. By January these Bombers will have well and truly had that abhorrent year behind them so the law of averages says a club like the bombers cannot stay out of the finals for too long in the modern era.

Stage 6 What the f***/ anger 2. Surely we cannot be that bad surely we can't keep
losing the way he have been. After all we managed to coax blokes from the VFL who have failed already in their attempts at AFL football to come back and play AFL football. That in itself is a top 6 job isn't it.

Stage 7 Indifference, lets play out this scenario. Lets say in a work situation or a social one.
Hello so and so. How are you ?
Fine.
Follow the footy?
No not really used to go but don't have the time?
Who do you support?
Essendon.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha tosser, bet you weren't busy in 2000 you moron.
You find that you have no emotion not because you don't love your club but because you just don't you just sit there and cop it, nor no comebacks to other peoples degrading comments about your footy club. The wit has all gone and all you have left is a tendency to become personal with those making the comments or have a tendency to lean into violence to quell the situation and give yourself something to hang your hat on.

Stage 8 Embarrassment.  Realising you have become the butt of jokes from your circle of friends you find a happy medium where you love the game and go to the games but you have no expectation or any goals. You find the train trip to the G or Dome quite daunting wearing your Essendon polo or trackie jacket as fans from real loser clubs like North , Bulldogs St Kilda and Hawthorn look at you like a chesire cat who just ate the cream with a sly grin on their face laughing at your pathetic choice of team after all they have never had the pedigree of your team. Your current plight almost makes their annual failure for the last 100 years worth it as they may break their greatest winning margin against you each time you face them.
You avoid the water cooler at work on Monday and have stopped sitting with the stigmatised clappers at the ground. Stories of Baby Bombers and losing 1 game for the entire season become as tiresome as Collingwoods 1958 premiership anecdotes. In a last form indignity towards you the sweet virginal girl at work who doesn't even talk to anyone unless she's spoken to overhears a conversation between you and a few workmates on a Monday about the weekend footy and lets you know she's a Collingwood fan and that 1990 was her favourite year and that years Grand Final was her favourite footy game ever growing up much to your workmates amusement after she retires back to her trusty pod back in the office.

Stage 9 Rage. Weekend comes around and for the umpteenth time in the last few years its a pivotal game against a much more credentialled and battle hardened team. Guess what you lose.... badly............Poor skills poor decison making by players, players playing in a reckless and undisciplined way, coach playing players who should have been dropped weeks ago due to their poor form and committment all make your blood boil after all you have been witness to this for the last 5 or so years, but to your credit you keep your dignity and hold all your raging emotions in check until......... a trivial mistake by a player at a point in the game where you have no chance of winning makes you start to brood like a serial killer on the loose. Come the final siren you  start throwing merchandise off your own body down onto the race as the players trundle in after their awful loss. Throw your membership at the coach who chose a quick fix solution to see out his contract rather than go the full rebuild and call SEN and all other forms of radio media to express your vitriolic opinion on why your club is crap and mutton dressed up as lamb and how long will this run of crap last. Blah blah blah.

Stage 10 Hope. The board notice that the natives are restless. They can see all is not right so they sack the coach and the board then fall on their own sword with a new lot pledging on their honour they will come in to rectify the on field situation as well as the off field one. Finances are dwindling and so is respect. Players from a club who were once cocky and arrogant are now apologetic and sombre to their fans but relieved that a new coach has spared their sorry hides from the AFL scrapheap for another couple of seasons yet or until the coach has finally completed his player review. The fans talk this all up as a recipe for success. After all they have been through who can blame them. The law of averages says 16 AFL teams 8 finals spots that's a 50% chance. Now that new blood is in that surely that equates to success. This board is not capable of blowing merely their own trumpet and having personal interests at heart only. It won't affect the on field performance. After all we are Essendon.

Stage 11 Spend When you are fearful of something going wrong what do you do. You spend it takes your mind off the real issues concerning you and you feel temporarily better. In football parlons that means going into the draft and picking up cheap recycled goods that can hopefully do the job properly this time around. After all if you do nothing we will incur the wrath of our subordinates, so at least we are showing that we are doing something. With spending comes a false confidence and a false bravado so all this unbridled faith has to turn to something good eventually even if we no longer make a yearly profit and our finances are becoming more and more dire by the day.

Stage 12 We didn't cater for this. After a reasonable start that had the conservatives talking about scraping into the 8 and the optimists talking about top 4 and yes even a Grand Final as well ,the dream has crashed and is merely a pipe dream. How could this be? All the so called preparation, dedication planning effort how can it amount to mediocrity, zilch, failure? Where to from here? Rather than trouble yourself and turn yourself black and blue. Give yourself a break and return to stage 1. It will take the heat off for at least 18-24 months after all you'll get your social life back and that will at least prosper. Once the gloss of your binge drinking subsides after a couple of drink driving convictions and a failed marriage to complement all your personal and social misgivings then proceed to go through the other stages one by one till its time to go back to stage 1 and repeat the process over again. Continue for at least 25 years as a minimum and only make the finals once or twice as a token gesture in between. Furthermore factions within the supporter group emerge and the club is looking more disjointed and fragmented with each passing year. Enjoy Rohan Enjoy. You have been a journalist all your life to become what a male  Bomber version of the bitter twisted and degenerate writing that Caro produces in regards to the Tigers. Oh Rohan would you like to see the psychaitrist now or in 25 years?
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: one-eyed on February 02, 2008, 05:12:30 PM
Just to interrupt...  ;D

2008 Rising Star odds

Tom Hawkins (Geelong)  4.00 
Ricky Petterd (Melbourne)  6.00 
Andrejs Everitt (Western Bulldogs)  6.00 
Matthew Kreuzer (Carlton)  8.00 
Trent Cotchin (Richmond)  8.00 

Alex Rance (Richmond)  26.00
Daniel Connors (Richmond)  26.00 
Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls (Richmond)  41.00 
Jack Riewoldt (Richmond)  41.00 
Travis Casserly (Richmond)  67.00 
Angus Graham (Richmond)  67.00 
Andrew Collins (Richmond)  81.00 
Dean Putt (Richmond)  251.00

https://www.sportsbet.com.au/sports/event/SportID/4/CompetitionPID/14773/RoundPID/433/EventID/775740
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: Mr Magic on February 02, 2008, 05:42:18 PM
welcome to stage 1

LMAO.

You have a lot of baggage there HT. ;)
Being a Tiger fan has certainly run us all through the full gamut of emotions over the past 28 years most of them negative.

There would be nothing sweeter than to see the Bombers go through the same amount of time in the wilderness.
They are already about 6 years in by my count..
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: 3121 on February 02, 2008, 09:25:45 PM
Can't see Cotch win the RS, without a proper pre-season.

Great post Hellenic.
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: mightytiges on February 02, 2008, 10:48:50 PM
Hall of Fame post there HT74 lol. 1970's revisted for the Dons.

Rance could be an early RS nominee in the first few rounds if he scores a game.
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: one-eyed on February 03, 2008, 04:29:23 AM
Rohan Connolly in the Sunday Age this morning.....

Quote
If you can't be optimistic about your team's chances for the new season in February, you never will. But there seems even more reason in 2008 for most of last year's also-rans to have genuine hope about what's in store.

Even Richmond, popular fancy to go back-to-back bottom finishes, can scoff at those prophecies of doom with some conviction, with ruckman Troy Simmonds, midfielder Mark Coughlan and potential matchwinner Nathan Brown no longer hobbled by injuries or the rehabilitation from them.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/fast-lane-opens-for-alsorans/2008/02/02/1201801100109.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: mightytiges on February 03, 2008, 03:21:24 PM
Rohan couldn't take his red+black glasses off today on 3aw. He said he's usually pessimistic about Essendon (sure Rohan lol) but he's really upbeat this year. For some miraculous reason all the bomber youngsters like Jetta, Dempsey and Lovett (Lovett's 25 Rohan) are going to have breakout seasons like Winderlich last year. It was like Hird never existed lol. He said they're all flying! Ummm so are 15 other sides at this time of year Rohan  :wallywink. 

Rohan also said although we could move up the ladder he tipped us finishing last as there's no guarantee over Simmo, Browny and especially Cogs. Fair enough but only Essendon have youngsters that will improve do they Rohan  ::).
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 03, 2008, 03:36:06 PM
Send him a copy of my post MT,that should be the wake up call he's looking for at this stage of the year. :rollin
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: mightytiges on February 03, 2008, 04:12:56 PM
Send him a copy of my post MT,that should be the wake up call he's looking for at this stage of the year. :rollin
That would be hilarious  :rollin. He might read it too as didn't Jack Dyer once say Essendon supporters are Collingwood supporters who can read  :lol.
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: wilba on February 03, 2008, 11:13:30 PM
put some money on collard.
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: mightytiges on February 03, 2008, 11:37:11 PM
put some money on collard.
He's been training well but as a rookie Collard needs someone to go on the long-term injury list for him to get an AFL game this year.
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: True Thylacine on February 04, 2008, 09:53:00 AM
Perhaps a nice theory Rohan but it didnt seem to work that well for Bryce Gibbs or Marc Murphy?
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: wayne on February 04, 2008, 11:22:17 AM
I would be surprised if Cotchin won it, even if he had an uninterupted pre-season.

We're going to have a lot of 2nd year players from the superdraft still eligible and I think it'd come from one of them.
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: Rodgerramjet on February 04, 2008, 04:51:58 PM
Rohan is one deluded son of a bitch.

What stage is deluded
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: bluey_21 on February 04, 2008, 09:25:02 PM
 :pray but realistically probably ain't gonna happen due to having no preseason
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: one-eyed on February 05, 2008, 03:20:31 AM
What stage is deluded
Their current one  ;)

"I don't see any reason why we won't win double figures [of games] and, hopefully, enough to play a final - Matthew Lloyd yesterday
Link (http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/knights-looks-to-the-stars/2008/02/04/1202090323815.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1)
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: wayne on February 05, 2008, 08:46:12 AM

"I don't see any reason why we won't win double figures [of games] and, hopefully, enough to play a final - Matthew Lloyd yesterday

He'll soon see a reason when a Jobe Watson stab pass hits a fan in the 3rd row on the chest.  :lol
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: mightytiges on February 05, 2008, 05:14:38 PM
Top 4 last year wasn't it. Now they're like a premiership side  :wallywink
Quote
Big Mal sees the Baby Bombers Mark II

TRIPLE premiership full-back Mal Michael believes Essendon supporters have plenty of reason for optimism this season, likening the current list to that of the successful 1993 “Baby Bombers” outfit.

http://www.afl.com.au/InternationalCupNews/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=54978
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: one-eyed on February 06, 2008, 02:43:17 AM
Send him a copy of my post MT,that should be the wake up call he's looking for at this stage of the year. :rollin
Done  ;). Whether it's published is another matter.

http://blogs.theage.com.au/realfooty/
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 07, 2008, 07:24:12 PM
Thanks OE hopefully we can get some gems in terms of responses from the deluded Bomber faithful. Lets reel in those suckers hook line and sinker. :rollin
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: mightytiges on February 07, 2008, 11:02:13 PM
Thanks OE hopefully we can get some gems in terms of responses from the deluded Bomber faithful. Lets reel in those suckers hook line and sinker. :rollin
The Age published it HT74  :rollin

http://blogs.theage.com.au/realfooty/archives/2008/02/early_predictio.html?page=fullpage#comments

It's the 3rd last comment on the page.
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: Smokey on February 08, 2008, 09:38:00 AM
Thanks OE hopefully we can get some gems in terms of responses from the deluded Bomber faithful. Lets reel in those suckers hook line and sinker. :rollin
The Age published it HT74  :rollin

http://blogs.theage.com.au/realfooty/archives/2008/02/early_predictio.html?page=fullpage#comments

It's the 3rd last comment on the page.
Looks even 1000% better out in a public non-partisan environment!   :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: 2008 NAB Rising Star ratings (footygoss)
Post by: one-eyed on February 11, 2008, 02:48:22 PM
2008 NAB Rising Star ratings: By Ryan Daniels
Posted Feb 11, 2008 - 5:35 AM

Ryan Daniels continues his top 10 lists in 2008, this time taking a look at the ‘up and coming’ stars who will look to succeed Geelong’s Joel Selwood as the nation’s fastest rising AFL talent.

(Eligibility- Nominees must have played no more than 10 AFL games at the start of the season, and must be under 21 years of age as at 1 January of that year.)

1. Trent Cotchin- Richmond

With number one pick Matthew Kreuzer expected to take some time to develop, Cotchin is the standout from the top selections. He will get a chance to play round one in a Tigers midfield that struggled last season. The award has gone to a midfielder for the past three years (Joel Selwood, Danyle Pearce and Brett Deledio) and don’t expect this season to be any different. Cotchin is the clear favourite.

2. Chris Masten- West Coast
3. Matthew Kreuzer- Carlton
4. Jamie McNamara- West Coast
5. Rhys Palmer- Fremantle
6. Robbie Tarrant- Kangaroos
7. Brad Ebert – West Coast
8. Mitch Brown – West Coast
9. Tom Collier – Brisbane
10. Cale Morton – Melbourne

The Roughie - David Gourdis – Richmond

Gourdis would have been devastated to have been overlooked at the NAB AFL Draft after performing so well at the draft camp (1st in the vertical jump and the 20 metre sprint), but the Tigers nabbed him in the preseason draft. The former Subiaco junior needs to develop some of his ball skills a little further, but his athletic ability will stand out even in the AFL. He will get his chance at some stage and will be keen to prove to the other 15 teams that they made a mistake by ignoring him last November.

On the outside looking in

David Myers (Essendon), Alex Rance (Richmond), James Sellar (Adelaide), Mathew Leuenberger (Brisbane), Ryan Cook (Collingwood)

http://www.footygoss.com/main/club_news/richmond/view/2008_nab_rising_star_ratings_by_ryan_daniels/
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: bluey_21 on February 11, 2008, 03:13:18 PM
personally think chris masten, leunberger or rhys palmer are the best shots. Sellar and Cotchin as roughies (depending on how early Cotchin gets called up)
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: richmondrules on February 11, 2008, 03:34:47 PM
I wonder what facts he is basing his predictions on. Obviously doesn't keep an eye on Richmond training reports. Cotchin has had a very badly interrupted pre-season and will be just trying to get a game later in the season not worrying about the Rising Star IMO. Gourdis sounds more like a project player than a Rising Star winner, a very rough roughie. Oh well perhaps he knows more than me, personally I hope he's right.
Title: Re: 2008 NAB Rising Star ratings (footygoss)
Post by: Fishfinger on February 11, 2008, 03:48:31 PM

Cotchin is the standout from the top selections. He will get a chance to play round one in a Tigers midfield that struggled last season.
I reckon I've got as much chance to play in round one as Cotchin.
Title: Re: Cotchin obvious rising star - Rohan Connolly
Post by: mightytiges on February 11, 2008, 08:37:55 PM
It's a West Australian footy site so that's why they rate many of the WA kids highly.

I see Gourdis starting in the Coburg ressies initially while he improves his kicking and endurance.