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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: wayne again on February 19, 2008, 04:33:15 PM

Title: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: wayne again on February 19, 2008, 04:33:15 PM
Hello all,
           I am new at this forum looking forward to the season i think. :pray I beleive it is time for Richo to get out of the forward line.
He misses way too many goals.
He demands the ball and lets you know if he does not get it.
He demands space to run.
He controls the forward line too much.
Don't get me wrong i love Richo he has been great for the Tigs, but lets set up the forward line with Cleve , Patto, Polak ,Browny etc. Maybe have Richo on the HFF at the most. I think he would be good on the wing as well.
One other thing we need Lids 70% in the middle 30% in forward line to good to be up in the forward line all game. ;)
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: mightytiges on February 19, 2008, 09:57:24 PM
Welcome WA.

I can't see Richo playing elsewhere at this late stage of his career. Hard to teach an old dog new tricks as they say.

I still reckon our forward line would be more potent if we had quality mids who can pass accurately and who moved the ball forward quickly. On friday night Lids and browny also missed gettable goals and they also had to put up with 25m passes bouncing 5m in front of their leads  :scream.
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: Tigermonk on February 20, 2008, 12:16:54 AM
he gets the ball plenty
he misses everygame the easy goals & it makes the team perform badly & hang there heads
he needs to get out of the forward 50
& if you cant teach a old dog get rid of him period
this is professional football not a charity to help bad skilled players stay in work
if he was at any other club he would have been traded years ago or put in another position
his had many good FF coaches including Roach teach him he cant grasp it delete him
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: torch on February 20, 2008, 02:14:47 AM
i think Richmond needs to look at a young FF and CHF ...

Richardson can still play in the Forward Line ... but not our main target ...

like Richardson said in the Herald Sun ... "it would be good to see a new leading goalkicker" ...

so HFF is best for Richardson ... his body would last longer running then crashing bodies at FF ...

it seems that Richardson isn't talking about Retiring too ...

to me, he basically is letting the committee deciding his future ...

if he has a big injury that will be it ... but i think he can play for a very long time ... he will out run anyone ...

his kicking is a big problem which we will know ... so kicking around the ground could improve his kicking ... because he would know to be more careful GUIDING the ball to foot ...

i watched the match again ... to see how he was kicking ... and he drops the ball to far from his foot ...

that 9 point shot that hit the post ... the ball once he let go ... turned around again ... and kicked the ball which was moving away ...

so i think if he could guide the football closer to his foot ... he would get a better contact ...

so Richardson for HFF ... time to play Roo and Hughes FF and CHF
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: {X} on February 20, 2008, 07:00:47 AM
everyone knows what i think about richo.....

but he cant be delisted ever, that would destroy julz
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: wayne again on February 20, 2008, 08:52:21 AM
 Spot on tigermonk. :clapping :gotigers
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: tigersalive on February 20, 2008, 08:54:43 AM
i think Richmond needs to look at a young FF and CHF ...

Richardson can still play in the Forward Line ... but not our main target ...

like Richardson said in the Herald Sun ... "it would be good to see a new leading goalkicker" ...

so HFF is best for Richardson ... his body would last longer running then crashing bodies at FF ...

it seems that Richardson isn't talking about Retiring too ...

to me, he basically is letting the committee deciding his future ...

if he has a big injury that will be it ... but i think he can play for a very long time ... he will out run anyone ...

his kicking is a big problem which we will know ... so kicking around the ground could improve his kicking ... because he would know to be more careful GUIDING the ball to foot ...

i watched the match again ... to see how he was kicking ... and he drops the ball to far from his foot ...

that 9 point shot that hit the post ... the ball once he let go ... turned around again ... and kicked the ball which was moving away ...

so i think if he could guide the football closer to his foot ... he would get a better contact ...

so Richardson for HFF ... time to play Roo and Hughes FF and CHF

 :thumbsup

Like everything about that.  FOr this club to move forward with the youngsters they must be given the no. 1 spots.

There is still room for Richo in the team but its not at FF or CHF anymore.  He can still run like a gun so while not use him in a floating role?

We need to see who's willing to grab their chance and take control of the forward line for the future.
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: julzqld on February 20, 2008, 09:03:00 AM
everyone knows what i think about richo.....

but he cant be delisted ever, that would destroy julz
I managed to survive before Richo came on the scene, but thanks for your concern.
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: {X} on February 20, 2008, 09:05:56 AM
LIGHTEN UP. was just a bit a toungue and cheek.

btw, i should put this in the fact thread, but it does not concern" me
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: julzqld on February 20, 2008, 10:05:57 AM
Then why bring it up?
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: FooffooValve on February 20, 2008, 11:33:00 AM
Richo needs to either play as a Lynch-style FF, 25m from goal, or as a lead-up CHF. One or the other, not both as is often the case. He needs to "play a role" in making our forwardline function, not BE the forwardline.

I don't think Richo has ever really understood that notion. So I'm not sure that he ever will.  :-\
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: Mr Magic on February 20, 2008, 11:53:32 AM
West Coast Round 5 2007, should have been the forward setup for the whole season.

Then the Geelong game happened, Wallace panicked and we went back to basics. :P
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: Mopsy on February 21, 2008, 05:43:01 AM
West Coast Round 5 2007, should have been the forward setup for the whole season.

Then the Geelong game happened, Wallace panicked and we went back to basics. :P
Well said Magic :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: one-eyed on February 23, 2008, 05:10:02 AM
It's only preseason but just for the record 23 scoring shots last night compared to 20 last week so make of that what you will. A difference or hardly any difference?

Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: Mr Magic on February 25, 2008, 02:03:17 PM
Pleasing to see Hughes and schulz among the goals on Friday.

Stick with it Terry!
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: mightytiges on February 25, 2008, 05:34:56 PM
Pleasing to see Hughes and schulz among the goals on Friday.

Stick with it Terry!
Agree Magic. Have faith in Clever leading out of FF Terry and give him a number of games in a row. Play Richo on a HFF.
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: {X} on February 25, 2008, 06:23:57 PM
play richo on a wing, or off the bench
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: Gracie on February 25, 2008, 06:55:05 PM
play richo on a wing, or off the bench

Yes off the bench as a pinch hitter depending how the game is going. Will also extend his time in the game and give Hughes and Schulz or Polak time to develop before he is no longer with us.
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: Stripes on February 26, 2008, 12:13:34 PM
Half forward flank or wing should be the next step for Richo. I mentioned this on another site but Richo has only eyes for the ball. He isn't malicious or intentionally selfish but he is holding back the progree of our young forwards, our forwardline and most importantly our team.

When was the last time you saw Richo screen/block for another forward?

When was the last time you saw Richo lead away from the ball to create space for the other forwards to lead into?

When was the last time you saw Richo pull out of marking contest or deviate from a lead when he saw another forward in a better position?

When did you ever see Richo apologising to a midfielder for leading to the wrong place or asking for the ball when other forwards were in a better position?


If Richo played across the F50 or up the wing he could utilise his greatest strengths - his pace, his size and his unparalleled marking ability to act as a link up player. Also playing in this area guarantees Richo will kick from long range when shotting for goal - his most accurate distance.

We need to start spreading the goalkicking around, we need to start becoming more unpredictable and we need to start developing a forward team rather than just a forward player.

If Richo is moved out of the forwardline then our midfielders are forced to look for the best option.

Sooner or later Richo will be gone and we will be forced to make this change regardless.

Why not start our future now!?

Stripes
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: wayne again on February 26, 2008, 02:04:49 PM
 Stripes that is 100% right. :clapping
 One thing i could add to your comments is, there is no point in having these young potential FF, without giving them a go. Richo on a wing or of the Bench, could become a mentor for them in his last few years.
Instead of trying to win games of his two left feet. :lol :banghead
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: Ox on February 26, 2008, 02:54:18 PM
Instead of trying to win games of his two left feet. :lol :banghead

u mean off his 2 middle feet :-X
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: Mr Magic on February 26, 2008, 03:31:09 PM
Great post stripes. You have nailed it.

Richardson has been a great player for the Tiger no doubt but there are major flaws to his game that most one eyed Tigers aren't prepared to acknowledge.

Give the kids(Schulz 22, Hughes 21) a go now.
if they can't do it this season then it's unlikely they ever will.
If that's the case then we are still stuffed when Richo retires anyway but at least we won't die wondering.
Might as well usher them in whilst he can still contribute.

Absolutely nothing to lose on the back of a wooden spoon.
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: mightytiges on March 01, 2008, 05:16:48 AM
As long as we kick 17 goals from nearly 30 shots our forward line structure won't change even if Richo on a lead is a bit like a bull in a china shop.

The semi concern in our forward line at the minute seems to be Browny's form. He's had a relatively quiet preseason in the trail matches from the match reports :-\.
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: Fishfinger on March 01, 2008, 07:05:09 AM
Richardson has been a great player for the Tiger no doubt but there are major flaws to his game that most one eyed Tigers aren't prepared to acknowledge.

I thought about this and couldn't think of any Richmond supporter, one eyed or not, who isn't prepared to acknowledge there are major flaws in his game.

Some bag him mercilessly for it, others enjoy his attributes instead.
Title: Re: Richo out of the forward line.
Post by: 2JD on March 01, 2008, 09:23:16 AM
Half forward flank or wing should be the next step for Richo. I mentioned this on another site but Richo has only eyes for the ball. He isn't malicious or intentionally selfish but he is holding back the progree of our young forwards, our forwardline and most importantly our team.

When was the last time you saw Richo screen/block for another forward?

When was the last time you saw Richo lead away from the ball to create space for the other forwards to lead into?

When was the last time you saw Richo pull out of marking contest or deviate from a lead when he saw another forward in a better position?

When did you ever see Richo apologising to a midfielder for leading to the wrong place or asking for the ball when other forwards were in a better position?


If Richo played across the F50 or up the wing he could utilise his greatest strengths - his pace, his size and his unparalleled marking ability to act as a link up player. Also playing in this area guarantees Richo will kick from long range when shotting for goal - his most accurate distance.

We need to start spreading the goalkicking around, we need to start becoming more unpredictable and we need to start developing a forward team rather than just a forward player.

If Richo is moved out of the forwardline then our midfielders are forced to look for the best option.

Sooner or later Richo will be gone and we will be forced to make this change regardless.

Why not start our future now!?

Stripes


Theres a lot of sense in that post stripes :cheers