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Title: Coaching
Post by: Tigermonk on February 29, 2008, 04:53:52 PM
l been hanging on this for sometime & thought it times to start a thread

Matthew Knights who is a knowledge of football on & off the field is now coaching Essendon
he done his time coaching before taking over a AFL club
watching Essendon play its Nab cup games it clearly stands out they are playing a new breed of football compared to when Sheedy was there & l think its also got alot to do with the standard of assistant coaching coming from Prescott & others
They are exciting to watch with fast flowing football running in numbers
Watch tonight you will see what l'm talking about they have a great game plan & stick to it

Then the crunch  ;D

How come Richmond style of football has never changed over several coaches & many years
same mistakes, bad foot skills, bad kicking for goal, chip kicking, sideways, backwards, no running in packs, hand skills, soft weak bodies, no fighting, no maning up & most of all no hard ruff stuff l want to see them do
l can go on but why is it Knights can change a team style of play within months (winning games) & our dumb coaches cant change anything & we not winning much in fact we got nothing to brag about
l seen them train & they are the worst training side in the league compared to any other clubs l seen
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: mightytiges on February 29, 2008, 07:05:19 PM
NAB Cup form can be misleading. Some clubs take it seriously; others don't. It also depends on where each club is in their preparation. You don't want to peak in February/March. Carlton too looked a million bucks in Feb/March like Essendon has so far yet still finished bottom 2 in the years they won the preseason cup.

As for us, IMO our gamestyles have changed over the years (Walls was very different to Northey, Plough different again compared to nuff nuff). It's just that we've had poor lists that make any gamestyle (under pressure) look crap lol.
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Tigermonk on February 29, 2008, 07:47:46 PM
 :rollin :rollin thats crap
we still playing the same style as Frawley
different list with short kicks, turnovers, indecision, & bad skills
alot of our list never made them mistakes before landing at Richmond
l think Wallace is not the guy to coach us he aint got no gameplan
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Little Jackie on February 29, 2008, 09:18:37 PM
NAB Cup form can be misleading. Some clubs take it seriously; others don't. It also depends on where each club is in their preparation. You don't want to peak in February/March. Carlton too looked a million bucks in Feb/March like Essendon has so far yet still finished bottom 2 in the years they won the preseason cup.

As for us, IMO our gamestyles have changed over the years (Walls was very different to Northey, Plough different again compared to nuff nuff). It's just that we've had poor lists that make any gamestyle (under pressure) look crap lol.

I have to laugh at this, you call someone ""nuff nuff""
Wallace is the nuff nuff.
Can tell you, Walls and Northey could coach, Wallace cant.

As for Tigermonks comments about Wallace, you are spot on.
Coaches dont liked to be proven wrong, Wallace in particular. He doesnt listen to anyone else, its his way or the highway.
If Wallace gets blown out of the water early in the game, he tries to close the game down so there isnt a blow out.
His pre games plans are soemthings thrown out the window after 10 minutes in the game, FACT
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Moi on February 29, 2008, 09:22:03 PM
Wallace - two wins a row - FACT
 :rollin
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Tigermonk on February 29, 2008, 09:47:16 PM
2 practice match wins against half fielded sides
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: {X} on February 29, 2008, 09:51:12 PM
Wallace - two wins a row - FACT
 :rollin

in feb, common moi , put it in perspective

eff some tiger fand are just effen suck job sl#t dumbbehinds
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Moi on February 29, 2008, 09:52:30 PM
Wallace - two wins a row - FACT
 :rollin

in feb, common moi , put it in perspective

eff some tiger fand are just effen suck job slut dumbbehinds
Why didn't you say that when we played the Saints?
Gold  :rollin :lol
FFS lol
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Ramps on February 29, 2008, 09:53:23 PM
Matthew Knights seems to be doing a nice job at Essendon and hes only been there coach for 5 minutes. Richmond is a real worry. How does Knights turn Essendon into a half decent unit and Wallace and his team dont seem to get any improvement into our team and theyve been there now going into season 4.
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Little Jackie on February 29, 2008, 09:54:03 PM
Wallace - two wins a row - FACT
 :rollin

Spare me please.
More like TWO wooden spoons in a row .
When was the last time the swans won a pre season game or took pre season seriously. ::)
Centrelink = Wallace. Its only time
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: julzqld on February 29, 2008, 09:54:13 PM
If Knights is doing such a nice job, it doesn't really say much for Sheedy.
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: {X} on February 29, 2008, 09:54:40 PM
Wallace - two wins a row - FACT
 :rollin

in feb, common moi , put it in perspective

eff some tiger fand are just effen suck job slut dumbbehinds
Why didn't you say that when we played the Saints?
Gold  :rollin :lol
FFS lol

u got me there, at least im man enough to admit that, but we still havent shown any improvement
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: {X} on February 29, 2008, 09:57:25 PM
If Knights is doing such a nice job, it doesn't really say much for Sheedy.

its the list and team that sheedy built, and knights is just carrying on sheeds works, its not rocket science!
if sheeds was still there they would be playing just as well

knights still talks to sheeds for advice and tutorage and guidance

ffs some ppl
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Little Jackie on February 29, 2008, 09:57:58 PM
If Knights is doing such a nice job, it doesn't really say much for Sheedy.

Didnt Sheeds coach for 27 years straight.

Can tell you that Knighta has completely different views on the game than Wallace, Matty will suceed, Wallace wont.
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Tigermonk on February 29, 2008, 09:58:49 PM
If Knights is doing such a nice job, it doesn't really say much for Sheedy.

Knights is a footy smarts person & has a different approach which works for his gameplan
that dont mean Sheedy was a bad coach
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Little Jackie on February 29, 2008, 10:03:31 PM
If Knights is doing such a nice job, it doesn't really say much for Sheedy.

Knights is a footy smarts person & has a different approach which works for his gameplan
that dont mean Sheedy was a bad coach

Correct Monk, Matty wants to instill ""taken them on at all costs "" mentality.
Wallace is a high possesion game and keep possesion and try and release. Recipe for DISASTER if you have poor skills (Take note PLOUGH !)
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Moi on February 29, 2008, 10:04:48 PM
Wallace - two wins a row - FACT
 :rollin

in feb, common moi , put it in perspective

eff some tiger fand are just effen suck job slut dumbbehinds
Why didn't you say that when we played the Saints?
Gold  :rollin :lol
FFS lol

u got me there, at least im man enough to admit that, but we still havent shown any improvement
Nothing should be taken out of these games - means eff all that we won the last two games and means eff all that we lost against the Aints!  Just practising.  
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Little Jackie on February 29, 2008, 10:08:12 PM
Wallace - two wins a row - FACT
 :rollin

in feb, common moi , put it in perspective

eff some tiger fand are just effen suck job slut dumbbehinds
Why didn't you say that when we played the Saints?
Gold  :rollin :lol
FFS lol

u got me there, at least im man enough to admit that, but we still havent shown any improvement
Nothing should be taken out of these games - means eff all that we won the last two games and means eff all that we lost against the Aints!  Just practising.  


Wrong, alot should be taken out of the games although isnt not the scoreboard thats important , but the style and game plan that was implemented.
The way the Tigers played against the saints was no different than last year, there lies the problem.
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: {X} on February 29, 2008, 10:10:11 PM
yes we overreact when we lose, maybe because we lose 75% more than we win
the score v the saints was not the issue, nor the result its teh way we played
we won tonight , but it sounds like our skills were still below standard, thats still a worry
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: {X} on February 29, 2008, 10:11:14 PM
Wallace - two wins a row - FACT
 :rollin

in feb, common moi , put it in perspective

eff some tiger fand are just effen suck job slut dumbbehinds
Why didn't you say that when we played the Saints?
Gold  :rollin :lol
FFS lol

u got me there, at least im man enough to admit that, but we still havent shown any improvement
Nothing should be taken out of these games - means eff all that we won the last two games and means eff all that we lost against the Aints!  Just practising.  


Wrong, alot should be taken out of the games although isnt not the scoreboard thats important , but the style and game plan that was implemented.
The way the Tigers played against the saints was no different than last year, there lies the problem.

u beat me to it jack, gr8 minds must think alike
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Tigermonk on February 29, 2008, 10:11:44 PM
l'm more concerned about the poor skills
one other thing l'm really stumped why we cant release the ball from the backline quick after a point is scored
we are the slowest team to move the ball forward comming out of the 10 yard box
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Little Jackie on February 29, 2008, 10:12:27 PM
Wallace - two wins a row - FACT
 :rollin

in feb, common moi , put it in perspective

eff some tiger fand are just effen suck job slut dumbbehinds
Why didn't you say that when we played the Saints?
Gold  :rollin :lol
FFS lol

u got me there, at least im man enough to admit that, but we still havent shown any improvement
Nothing should be taken out of these games - means eff all that we won the last two games and means eff all that we lost against the Aints!  Just practising.  


Wrong, alot should be taken out of the games although isnt not the scoreboard thats important , but the style and game plan that was implemented.
The way the Tigers played against the saints was no different than last year, there lies the problem.

u beat me to it jack, gr8 minds must think alike

Oh no, I am worried now, lol :lol
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: {X} on February 29, 2008, 10:14:00 PM
be worried when ox is mad at u, lol

be afraid, very afraid lol
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Tigermonk on February 29, 2008, 10:20:21 PM
Ox's are big aint they
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Moi on February 29, 2008, 10:25:00 PM
Wallace - two wins a row - FACT
 :rollin

in feb, common moi , put it in perspective

eff some tiger fand are just effen suck job slut dumbbehinds
Why didn't you say that when we played the Saints?
Gold  :rollin :lol
FFS lol

u got me there, at least im man enough to admit that, but we still havent shown any improvement
Nothing should be taken out of these games - means eff all that we won the last two games and means eff all that we lost against the Aints!  Just practising.  


Wrong, alot should be taken out of the games although isnt not the scoreboard thats important , but the style and game plan that was implemented.
The way the Tigers played against the saints was no different than last year, there lies the problem.

u beat me to it jack, gr8 minds must think alike
So when the Blues win the preseason cup and then  win the wooden spoon, we're supposed to take notice of great preseason form hey?

Don't think so. 
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Little Jackie on February 29, 2008, 10:30:20 PM
Wallace - two wins a row - FACT
 :rollin

in feb, common moi , put it in perspective

eff some tiger fand are just effen suck job slut dumbbehinds
Why didn't you say that when we played the Saints?
Gold  :rollin :lol
FFS lol

u got me there, at least im man enough to admit that, but we still havent shown any improvement
Nothing should be taken out of these games - means eff all that we won the last two games and means eff all that we lost against the Aints!  Just practising.  


Wrong, alot should be taken out of the games although isnt not the scoreboard thats important , but the style and game plan that was implemented.
The way the Tigers played against the saints was no different than last year, there lies the problem.

u beat me to it jack, gr8 minds must think alike
So when the Blues win the preseason cup and then  win the wooden spoon, we're supposed to take notice of great preseason form hey?

Don't think so. 


Waste of time even replying to that.
Its not about winning or losing its about how you play.
Watch tonite game as you will know what I mean.
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: mightytiges on March 01, 2008, 04:07:23 AM
When was the last time the swans won a pre season game or took pre season seriously. ::)
Last week. Thumped Port by 69 points at Footy Park ;).

As for Walls' coaching - he took our up and coming finals side to bottom 4 in a year and a half and only 2 of his 20 draftees went on to play more than 25 games.
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Little Jackie on March 01, 2008, 09:14:28 AM
When was the last time the swans won a pre season game or took pre season seriously. ::)
Last week. Thumped Port by 69 points at Footy Park ;).

As for Walls' coaching - he took our up and coming finals side to bottom 4 in a year and a half and only 2 of his 20 draftees went on to play more than 25 games.


For what its worth, Robert Walls tactically was a good coach. The players couldnt do what was asked of them. EG Rotating hot spots etc etc.  Even the geniuses on here couldnt work that out ;)
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Smokey on March 01, 2008, 11:13:27 AM
one other thing l'm really stumped why we cant release the ball from the backline quick after a point is scored
we are the slowest team to move the ball forward comming out of the 10 yard box
And yet lead the league in 'coast to coast' goals - go figure.  ???
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: julzqld on March 01, 2008, 11:42:48 AM
yes we overreact when we lose, maybe because we lose 75% more than we win
Most of us don't overreact - mainly you.
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: julzqld on March 01, 2008, 11:44:59 AM
If Knights is doing such a nice job, it doesn't really say much for Sheedy.

its the list and team that sheedy built, and knights is just carrying on sheeds works, its not rocket science!
if sheeds was still there they would be playing just as well

knights still talks to sheeds for advice and tutorage and guidance

ffs some ppl
The list Sheedy built is getting old.  Hird has left.  The Bombers were declining last year.

Beats me why you feel the need to swear and belittle everyone's opinion.
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Tigermonk on March 01, 2008, 11:57:33 AM
one other thing l'm really stumped why we cant release the ball from the backline quick after a point is scored
we are the slowest team to move the ball forward comming out of the 10 yard box
And yet lead the league in 'coast to coast' goals - go figure.  ???

wtf we lead the league in nothing  :rollin we cause turnovers coming from the backline we slow slow out of there the other team mans us up
you watch too much Melbourne Tigers basketball coast to coast  :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: {X} on March 01, 2008, 12:23:06 PM
yes we overreact when we lose, maybe because we lose 75% more than we win
Most of us don't overreact - mainly you.

u need a hug
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: {X} on March 01, 2008, 12:24:40 PM
If Knights is doing such a nice job, it doesn't really say much for Sheedy.

its the list and team that sheedy built, and knights is just carrying on sheeds works, its not rocket science!
if sheeds was still there they would be playing just as well

knights still talks to sheeds for advice and tutorage and guidance

ffs some ppl
The list Sheedy built is getting old.  Hird has left.  The Bombers were declining last year.

Beats me why you feel the need to swear and belittle everyone's opinion.

double standards, its ok for my opinion to be belitteld, but no one elses!

once again u need a hug
Title: Re: Coaching
Post by: Tigermonk on March 01, 2008, 01:10:09 PM
have you turned gay today X your hugging everyone or you just happy Richmond won  :lol  ;D  :cheers