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Title: Out of Contract Players
Post by: froars on August 16, 2004, 08:13:10 PM
Heard on SEN tonight coming home there was a list of who's out of contract in one of the papers on the weekend.  Does anyone know which paper it was in?

Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: Jackstar on August 16, 2004, 08:22:34 PM
Herald Sun , forget what day though.
Contracts dont mean much these days, There would be some players who are contracted who probably want a fresh start somewhere else and would come to an agreement with the club or clubs concerned
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 16, 2004, 11:01:49 PM
It was Sunday's H/Sun a story by the wonderful ::) Jackie Esptein who listed the following Richmond players as coming out of contract:

Ottens
Newman
Zantuck
Pettifer
Stafford
Hyde
Nicholls
Hilton
Marsh
Houlihan
Fletcher
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: mightytiges on August 16, 2004, 11:13:04 PM
According to the Hun:

Out of contract

Fletcher, Hilton, Houlihan, Hyde, D.Kellaway (ret.), Marsh, Nicholls, Newman, Ottens, Pettifer, Rogers (ret.), Stafford, Zantuck.

So that leaves (based on what we had):

2005

Archibald Blumfield Bowden Cambo Chaffey Fiora Fleming Gilmour Hall Hartigan Jackson Johnson A.Kellaway Krakouer Morrison Newman Raines Roach Rodan Schulz Tuck Weller

2006
Gas Richo Tivs

2007
Brown Cogs

I'm not sure where they got their info from. I thought Krakouer, Blumfield and Fleming were out of contract.

As for the other clubs' lists. Seemed to be a mix of stars who each Club would be mad to let go (eg: Luke Ball, Cameron Bruce, Jude Bolton), fringe players/duds and blokes near retirement.
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 16, 2004, 11:26:44 PM
I think Jackie's research is a case of near enough is good enough - as she proved last week (refer to OTP) ;D

Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: mightytiges on August 17, 2004, 11:35:13 AM
I think Jackie's research is a case of near enough is good enough - as she proved last week (refer to OTP) ;D

Well she is obviously learning from best - one Mike Sheahan - when it come to that sort of thing. Mr "Richmond's assistant coaches are still contracted for another year"  ::)
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 17, 2004, 11:39:00 AM
I'm not sure where they got their info from. I thought Krakouer, Blumfield and Fleming were out of contract.


Correct MT

Blumfield is definitely out of contract - that's from the horse mouth in this case his  ;)

Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: mightytiges on August 17, 2004, 11:49:07 AM
I'm not sure where they got their info from. I thought Krakouer, Blumfield and Fleming were out of contract.


Correct MT

Blumfield is definitely out of contract - that's from the horse mouth in this case his  ;)



lol @ WP pumping the fists when he said yes  ;)
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 17, 2004, 11:52:06 AM
lol @ WP pumping the fists when he said yes  ;)


I just said "OK"  :thumbsup

No fist pumping but I was tempted to buy him a drink  :cheers
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: Tiger Spirit on August 17, 2004, 12:58:25 PM
Going by what Greg Miller said on Club Corner last night, you get the feeling that we won’t turn over as many players as we did last season.

If things turn out that way, it will most likely be because players are still contracted.  And rather than pay out players, who may not get picked up by other Clubs, they will be retained on the list.

The thing I find frustrating is that, all of a sudden, we are giving some of these players a go now.  Our season finished after round 2 and some of these players have had up to 4 seasons to prove themselves.  So instead of giving young players a game or two we give players who have been there for several years a go. :banghead

Houlihan gets a game and doesn’t even play 40 minutes.  Marsh, dditto.  If he hasn’t got a game up until now then what difference is another 1 or 2 going to make to his chances?

I think Weller will be retained, because he has had injuries throughout the season, but also because this is his first season here.

Someone asked about Tuck and Miller said that, while he was good in and under player, his decision making needed some work. :-\

There has to be more to it than that, because you could say the same thing about a number of our players and at least Tuck goes in and gets the ball, which the caller pointed out.
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: om21 on August 17, 2004, 05:06:38 PM
I could have sworn that Fleming was on a 2-year deal.

God I prey that he is....
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: Tiger Spirit on August 17, 2004, 05:35:34 PM
Greg Miller was also asked about the number of left footers in team.  From his response, we could expect to see some changes, mainly down back.
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: shano62 on August 18, 2004, 12:11:53 PM
WE Need a player like M Michael in the backline . and a S  Dew onballer who can kick the bloody long to RICHO
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: Fishfinger on August 18, 2004, 06:13:18 PM
Weller is out of contract this year.
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: mightytiges on August 19, 2004, 12:16:24 AM
Thanks for confirming that FF.

Here's what we had btw.

Out of contract

Blumfield, Fleming, Fletcher, Hilton, Houlihan, Hyde, D.Kellaway (ret.), Krakouer, Marsh, Nicholls, Newman, Ottens, Pettifer, Rogers (ret.), Schulz, Stafford, Weller, Zantuck.

2005

Archibald, Bowden, Cambo, Chaffey, Fiora, Gilmour, Hall, Hartigan, Jackson, Johnson, A.Kellaway, Morrison, Raines, Roach, Rodan, Tuck.

2006
Gas, Richo, Tivs.

2007
Brown, Cogs.
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: mightytiges on August 19, 2004, 12:23:30 AM
WE Need a player like M Michael in the backline .

and a Leppitsch to go with him would be good too  :P.

and a S  Dew onballer who can kick the bloody long to RICHO

Another left footer from memory so he won't be on the Wallace's or Miller's wishlist  ;) 
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 19, 2004, 08:46:24 AM
Out of contract

Blumfield, Fleming, Fletcher, Hilton, Houlihan, Hyde, D.Kellaway (ret.), Krakouer, Marsh, Nicholls, Newman, Ottens, Pettifer, Rogers (ret.), Schulz, Weller, Zantuck.

2005

Stafford


Stafford is out of contract at the end of this season too
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: mightytiges on August 19, 2004, 03:11:53 PM
Stafford is out of contract at the end of this season too

Thanks WP  :cheers. He must have had a 3 year or a 1 then 2 year deal after coming down from Sydney.

I've updated the list in my previous post.

Can anyone confirm when Chaffey is out of contract?
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: om21 on August 19, 2004, 04:45:18 PM
Still no confirmation on Fleming.....
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: Fishfinger on August 20, 2004, 03:12:13 PM
Did Morrison get a 2 year deal?
I thought players redrafted usually only got 1 year. (eg Weller)
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: mightytiges on August 20, 2004, 03:50:36 PM
Did Morrison get a 2 year deal?
I thought players redrafted usually only got 1 year. (eg Weller)

I wasn't sure about Morrison as he was picked up in the National draft using a mid-pick whereas Weller would be on a one year deal as he was picked up in the PSD.
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 20, 2004, 04:53:51 PM
Morrison was the only "re-cycled"  player in the draft who nominated his terms ($ length of contract etc). De-listed players nominating are allowed to do that.

His nominated contract length was 2 years I believe ;)
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: Fishfinger on August 20, 2004, 04:59:23 PM
Thanks WP. And MT. :)
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: mightytiges on October 11, 2004, 02:17:21 PM
Just bringing this back to the top and updating it.

Out of contract: Hilton, Newman, Pettifer, Weller. (Fleming and Hyde may have re-signed)

2005: Archibald, Bowden, Cambo, Chaffey, Gilmour, Hall, Hartigan, Jackson, Johnson, A.Kellaway, Morrison, Raines, Roach, Rodan, Stafford, Tuck, Zantuck.

2006: Gas, Richo, Schulz, Tivs.

2007: Brown, Cogs, Krakouer

2009: Simmonds
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: H Tiger on October 11, 2004, 02:43:36 PM


Out of contract: Fleming, Hilton, Hyde, Newman, Pettifer, Schulz, Stafford, Weller.


Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: H Tiger on October 11, 2004, 02:45:56 PM
Please see the above quote:

The highlighted three are the potential trimmings from our list, who would make way for Draftees.
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: Harry on October 11, 2004, 03:17:09 PM
Rumour has it that Pettifer will refuse to sign and go to the Hawks via the PSD.

LMAO at the complete Dud dictating terms if that's the case.  Hope it's true btw.  This will solve our dilema as we MUST utilise picks 36 and 52.
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 11, 2004, 03:20:42 PM
Just bringing this back to the top and updating it. From memory Staff and/or Sarge have re-signed but I can't remember for how long?.


Stafford re-signed for 1 year

Schulz - 2 years I believe

Out of contract: Fleming, Hilton, Hyde, Newman, Pettifer, Schulz, Stafford, Weller.


I am not 100% sure but I think Hyde & Fleming may have been re-signed too - don't quote me on that 8)

Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: om21 on October 11, 2004, 03:23:48 PM
WP u better be lying.......otherwise someone pass me a gun......please!
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: mightytiges on October 11, 2004, 03:24:08 PM
Stafford re-signed for 1 year

Schulz - 2 years I believe

Ta WP  :cheers.


Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 11, 2004, 03:27:09 PM
WP u better be lying.......otherwise someone pass me a gun......please!

 :lol - I said don't quote me on that  ;D

Whatever the situation I reckon we will know within the next week.
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: WilliamPowell on October 11, 2004, 03:36:36 PM
Rumour has it that Pettifer will refuse to sign and go to the Hawks via the PSD.

LMAO at the complete Dud dictating terms if that's the case.  Hope it's true btw.  This will solve our dilema as we MUST utilise picks 36 and 52.

Now that is funny  :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :lol :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

But why wait until the PSD - de-list him now if he doesn't want to be there
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: H Tiger on October 13, 2004, 10:08:58 AM
We have talked about out a lot of out of contract players, he's one from left field, Chris Lamb.
And I will be honest I only know about this kid because I have met his dad (who is a top man, for an old fella). I don't think we would take him PSD but he's a big guy and a kpp (back line).

Melbourne drew a curtain on the frustrating careers of backman Chris Lamb and young tall Luke Molan, originally heralded as the youngsters who would develop into the linchpins of the Demons.

Lamb showed promise in 2002, succeeding the injured Alistair Nicholson at stuff and playing two finals, but he played only three games in 2003 and none in 2004.

He would be best remembered from a sickening incident late in 2002 when he fell headfirst to the ground, lying motionless for several minutes amid fears he had broken his neck.

http://realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2004/10/12/1097406571257.html

I saw him play for Melbourne against Brisbane in Brisvegas 2002 and he went well. Apparently Demon supporters can't understand why the reverend wouldn't give him a go last year and they were pretty right for backs this year, even though he was playing well....... Do we need a stuff?
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: mightytiges on October 14, 2004, 03:18:48 AM
Lamb just hasn't reproduced what he showed in 2002. As we know with many of our own Tigers in recent years, one good year isn't good enough to remain on a AFL list. Another club might throw him a lifeline but not us. We want someone who'll walk into our best 18 (ok that's not very hard at the minute  :shh)

Just read Port's delistings. No surprises expect to say there's no news yet of Salopek staying there or putting him name in the PSD. I think Oct 29 or 31 is the final day for delistings (?).
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: Fishfinger on October 14, 2004, 08:04:07 AM
Salopek is still contracted for another year. Porthos on BF, who pretty well knows everything Port Adelaide, is sure he signed for 3 years when drafted in 2002.
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: mightytiges on October 14, 2004, 02:59:52 PM
Salopek is still contracted for another year. Porthos on BF, who pretty well knows everything Port Adelaide, is sure he signed for 3 years when drafted in 2002.

Cheers FF.

In that case, it looks like it'll be a pretty thin PSD and it could get worse if Pat Bowden, Travis Johnstone and Bizzell re-sign. The latter two would probably be out of our budget anyway given they'll be most likely be overpriced based on what they're asking. Johnstone coming to Tigerland would be ironic given the Dees chose him over Otto.

Not much out there  :-\. 
Title: Re: Out of Contract Players
Post by: mightytiges on October 21, 2004, 04:20:20 PM
Just bringing this back to the top again and updating/correcting it. Only Newman, Pettifer and Hyde I'm unsure about.

How long is Moore's contract for? I'd presume 1 year?


Out of contract: Newman, Pettifer, (Hyde may have re-signed?).

2005: Archibald, Bowden, Cambo, Chaffey, Gilmour, Hall, Hartigan, Hilton, Jackson, Johnson, A.Kellaway, Morrison, Raines, Roach, Rodan, Stafford, Tuck, Zantuck.

2006: Gas, Richo, Schulz, Tivs.

2007: Brown, Cogs, Krakouer

2009: Simmonds