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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: Go Richo 12 on March 30, 2008, 07:27:04 PM
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Just finished watching the game up here courtesy of Foxtel, very dissappointed but i think we know where we are at after that, competitive but not good enough. The game could have been ours if crucial goals were kicked, and a bit more polish. Thought Newman put in a good effort in his dress rehearsal for Captaincy, and Lids was awesome. Browny,well we can`t keep using the Leg theory for ever. Interested on your thoughts in regards to team selection, Morton or Sarge? If Polo is good enough to get a game as a Supp player then why isn`t he put on the Senior list? Why not play a senior listed player in front of him? Is Patto developing into a top liner? By the way i thought Hyde went o.k :help
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True about Browny, just appears to be playing without confidence, after watching the game my question is "Where or who are the Richmond small forwards?". If Richo has four defenders trying to nullify him when attempting to mark why do we not get more crumbing goals. North seemed to have at least three players and the bottom of each pack in their forward line and reaped the benefits.
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Dissapointing display by the Tiges :'(
The Kangas jumped us in the 1st qtr and we just never recovered from there. Still had hope throughout the match till Campells goal late in the 4th. That last qtr rally was encouraging though.
Impressed by Lids today. Stamped himself in the 2nd half after sluggish 1st. Newman was impressive in his 1st gig as captain. Schulzy was pretty good today. Richie had his moments but had some shockers. Overall just too many passengers. Will be some big changes this week IMO.
Would like to bring Connors and Edwards in, at least they have a crack.
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Wait till Round 12.
Can anyone or any expert on here tell me this ?
Why was Jordon McMahon played as a hit up half forward for 50% of the game :banghead
Where is Joel Bowden playing? If you know, please tell and explain to Joel as well.
And is there any remote chance of playing Brown and Lids on the ball at the same time ::)
Today was a disgrace
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Dissapointing display by the Tiges :'(
The Kangas jumped us in the 1st qtr and we just never recovered from there. Still had hope throughout the match till Campells goal late in the 4th. That last qtr rally was encouraging though.
Impressed by Lids today. Stamped himself in the 2nd half after sluggish 1st. Newman was impressive in his 1st gig as captain. Schulzy was pretty good today. Richie had his moments but had some shockers. Overall just too many passengers. Will be some big changes this week IMO.
Would like to bring Connors and Edwards in, at least they have a crack.
[/I liked King even though he a Barry Crocker he keopt trying his guts out,never gave up.quote]
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Kingy had a day to forget, but the good thing was, unlike many teammates, he got over it and kept trying :clapping
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If Polo is good enough to get a game as a Supp player then why isn`t he put on the Senior list? Why not play a senior listed player in front of him?
I am not sure what you mean about Polo - he is on the senior list. He isn't a rookie :-\ is a senior listed player
By the way i thought Hyde went o.k :help
Hyde was average at best - no 2nd efforts and terrible decison making and poor disposal
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Today was a disgrace
Yeah the Bombers were pretty insipid :rollin
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A case of the same old situation.
Our half back line defended well on numerous occasions and created running breaks with our loose fowards who had worked way too far up the ground due to a strategy that every team in the AFL with any coach with half a brain has used for the last 10 years or so of push and pull defense and then triple tag richo in the foward 50.
Result is the long bomb in and an easy clearance to the opposition.
Just plain dumb football and it does my head in why wallet doesnt wake up and counter this tactic.
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Some good signs from today in that we never gave uphad a rally in the last quarter and were a silly chance had we had more poise and skill and executed that skill along with our decision making in a moreprecise manner.
Newman should be captain of the side plain and simple.Thought Sarge was okay in reference to the point someone made in an earlier post and the development of Thursfield is very encouraging.
On the negative
a) Our senior players let us down today Browny Bowden Pettifer who is as soft as butter with a non existent work rate and of course Johnno let the club and his team down. His prescence may not have amounted in us winning but the scoreboard would have been closer.
b) The umpiring is awful. Football has become an incidental contact sport rather than a contact sport and the number of ticky touchwood frees Corey Jones and co received up forward made a difficult task more monumental.
c) Wallace was very reactive today and even delayed making moves that would have kept us in the game eg putting Lids on the ball as once he was there he racked up the possies and persisting with Kingy on Jones then Grant. It seems he was cursed being the media darling leading up to today as he had a dirty dirty day.
Just beaten on the day by bigger bodies and a team who was better drilled and better coached on the day by a characterless club who enjoy making a habit of beating big 4 opposition.
As a postscript I can only hope that Kane puts in a stellar performance next week and inspires the team against the Skunks as he owes that to the team himself and the fans and anything less than a stellar performance in a winning team will be less than acceptable and a slur on the footy club as a whole.
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Today was a disgrace
Yeah the Bombers were pretty insipid :rollin
Dont know why you want to talk about the Bombers, ::)
has nothing to do with me this year ::)
At least you will get McMahon and possibly Polak and a few others back at the burgers :thumbsup
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Dont know why you want to talk about the Bombers, ::)
has nothing to do with me this year ::)
Well you talked them up last week about how good their win was compared to Richmond's I am now just comparing their loss to ours :rollin :jump
You should lighten up ....
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Dont know why you want to talk about the Bombers, ::)
has nothing to do with me this year ::)
Well you talked them up last week about how good their win was compared to Richmond's I am now just comparing their loss to ours :rollin :jump
You should lighten up ....
I wont lighten up actually, i hate losing especially they way we do
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I thought Polo was very ordinary tonight, was bought in to take Sugars spot as a run with player and was very unaccountable and continued to show no respect to his direct opponent who he was meant to be tagging.
King had a shocker, but atleast he kept at it and continued to try and give some run.
We looked slow against the Roos tonight.
Backline did a reasonable job i thought considering the supply our midfield allowed North. Our mids were pushed and bumped off the ball far too easily and that was the main reason we lost. No one was running through the middle.
Lids showed that he needs to played as a midfielder and left there, he can rest in the F50 but thats it. Play him on the ball for the rest of the year and just let him develop.
McMahon is a DUD, dont need to say anymore.
Tambling needs to start to lift his game and give the team some more drive and run around the ground. He does some good things and then lets himself down with disposal etc.
Pettifer was a disgrace and should be playing at Coburg next week, he is meant to be a leader ::)
Brown is very much down on confidence, maybe play him FF and leave it open and try and get him a bag to get his confidence levels up again.
Overall a very disapointing effort after the run and carry from last week, it just appeared no one wanted to do the hard work that was required.
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Today was a disgrace
Yeah the Bombers were pretty insipid :rollin
Dont know why you want to talk about the Bombers, ::)
has nothing to do with me this year ::)
At least you will get McMahon and possibly Polak and a few others back at the burgers :thumbsup
Does this mean you are unemployed, no wonder you are so grumpy.
:cuddles
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Today was a disgrace
Yeah the Bombers were pretty insipid :rollin
Dont know why you want to talk about the Bombers, ::)
has nothing to do with me this year ::)
At least you will get McMahon and possibly Polak and a few others back at the burgers :thumbsup
Does this mean you are unemployed, no wonder you are so grumpy.
:cuddles
I am having a rest :shh :shh :shh :shh
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look
our team had a bad day, but the roos were only a 7 goal better side thanks to the pathetic dispLAY THE UMPIRES MADE.
the umpires totaly screwed us and demorilised the team
we made many errors but so did they and we never got goals gift wrapped for us as they did.
they were evengiven many charity centre clearances
we never gave up. good sign
they kicked many flukey goals also
im not bagging terry this week, but i hope he learns from this week and if mick malthouse can be crappy with umpires then terry must be fuming
richo has to learn to give jay space
deledio needs to go on th eball
brown needs time on the ball too
morton , jack , edwards, connors must all come in
and terry needs to get tough, old school, none of this snag stuff
ps, we didnt lose as bad as other teams this week and our scoreboard was corrupted and influenced by pathetic umpiring
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Today was a disgrace
Yeah the Bombers were pretty insipid :rollin
Dont know why you want to talk about the Bombers, ::)
has nothing to do with me this year ::)
At least you will get McMahon and possibly Polak and a few others back at the burgers :thumbsup
Does this mean you are unemployed, no wonder you are so grumpy.
:cuddles
I am having a rest :shh :shh :shh :shh
That happens when you reach a certain age.
:shh
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Re Tambling
Let me preface my remarks by saying I was at ground level in the Olympic Stand with no radio or other input from supporters, so I don't have any stats to go on - but I can't see how he can be among our best.
I thought he cost us the first two goals of the second half with skill errors and always seems to have his body movements ahead of his brain. In the last quarter when we were pushing he was standing next to Wells in front of the members one second and in a flash Wells was making it two on one down the wing with Tambling 30 metres away trotting. He looks flash at times but doesn't do anywhere near enough for mine.
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Umpires affect on the game............................ZERO
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Pettifer was a disgrace and should be playing at Coburg next week, he is meant to be a leader ::)
Actually that was the most disppointing thing for me today/night our lack of leadership. Tonight showed to me at least why Kane Johnson is the Captain of this Club. Dare I say it we missed him tonight in the centre clearance - at least he puts some pressure on in there.... tonight very few did
Newman, Bowden, Brown, Pettifer, Simmonds & Foley are the other members of the leadership group. Massive opportunity to put their stamp on this game and collectively as a group they came up short
Foley was tagged by Rawlings B and Newman tried hard and was one of our few OK players but a couple of times when needed he was lacking in the 2nd efforts, thought that was disappointing (corralling rather than attacking anyone >:()
Simmonds tap work was ordinary tonight - tapping the ball to the centre of the goal mouth....Roos goal in the 2nd. MT had to restrain me from doing a "woofer valve" ;D
Pettifer - see what others have said ...
and the 2 B's needed to really step up as the most senior of the leadership group...
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I noticed a soft free kick bonanza in the first quarter!
After that just the usual umpiring with a few each way bets here and there.
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Umpires affect on the game............................ZERO
Correct! :thumbsup
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Re Tambling
Let me preface my remarks by saying I was at ground level in the Olympic Stand with no radio or other input from supporters, so I don't have any stats to go on - but I can't see how he can be among our best.
I thought he cost us the first two goals of the second half with skill errors and always seems to have his body movements ahead of his brain. In the last quarter when we were pushing he was standing next to Wells in front of the members one second and in a flash Wells was making it two on one down the wing with Tambling 30 metres away trotting. He looks flash at times but doesn't do anywhere near enough for mine.
I actually thought Tambling was good tonight when he was thrown in the guts - was getting clearances for us and attacking the ball. So he made skill errors - he wasn't alone there. Some of his in and under work was very good
I can handle kids making errors far more than the likes of Bowdn J or a McMahon
The match up on Wells didn't work - Jackson had him for most of the game and gave him far too much latitude
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Umpires affect on the game............................ZERO
Correct! :thumbsup
They did ... the margin should only be 35 points ... Grant's free a shocker...
Actually make that 29 points Jones in the fanl quarter tripping over his own feet, going to his knees and the falling forward..
You want a real disgrace of the game the hands in the back rule :banghead :banghead Goes from bad to worse
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WP.
The Simmons ruck tap in the goal square was interesting.
Why ?
Watch the tape if you can and see a certain player waiting for a teammate to gain possesion so he can scoot off on his lonesome.
Any guesses who anyone ? No prizes but you will all guess right :lol
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I hate to say it but I think we missed Kane J.
:help
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Umpires affect on the game............................ZERO
Correct! :thumbsup
They did ... the margin should only be 35 points ... Grant's free a shocker...
Actually make that 29 points Jones in the fanl quarter tripping over his own feet, going to his knees and the falling forward..
You want a real disgrace of the game the hands in the back rule :banghead :banghead Goes from bad to worse
If its the King incident and I was coach this would be the advice I would give the kid.
1/ Dont play from behind, if you do you will run the risk of your opponent pushing back and then it is only natural that you will nudge or push him the back,
2/ Play side by side, Get a tape of Darren Gaspar in his prime, always played side by side and kept him opponent to the bounday at all costs, .
Might add Will Thursfield was doing this before he did his knee and is struggling a bit at the moment in regards to his speed.,thus getting caught behind
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Some good signs from today in that we never gave uphad a rally in the last quarter and were a silly chance had we had more poise and skill and executed that skill along with our decision making in a moreprecise manner.
Newman should be captain of the side plain and simple.Thought Sarge was okay in reference to the point someone made in an earlier post and the development of Thursfield is very encouraging.
On the negative
a) Our senior players let us down today Browny Bowden Pettifer who is as soft as butter with a non existent work rate and of course Johnno let the club and his team down. His prescence may not have amounted in us winning but the scoreboard would have been closer.
b) The umpiring is awful. Football has become an incidental contact sport rather than a contact sport and the number of ticky touchwood frees Corey Jones and co received up forward made a difficult task more monumental.
c) Wallace was very reactive today and even delayed making moves that would have kept us in the game eg putting Lids on the ball as once he was there he racked up the possies and persisting with Kingy on Jones then Grant. It seems he was cursed being the media darling leading up to today as he had a dirty dirty day.
Just beaten on the day by bigger bodies and a team who was better drilled and better coached on the day by a characterless club who enjoy making a habit of beating big 4 opposition.
As a postscript I can only hope that Kane puts in a stellar performance next week and inspires the team against the Skunks as he owes that to the team himself and the fans and anything less than a stellar performance in a winning team will be less than acceptable and a slur on the footy club as a whole.
Nice post HT,
About the only things missing from my point of view is asking how can a player like Leigh Brown (big and slow) be played in the centre and get so many possesions?
Secondly next post id like some more punctuation thanks. LMAO
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WP.
The Simmons ruck tap in the goal square was interesting.
Why ?
Watch the tape if you can and see a certain player waiting for a teammate to gain possesion so he can scoot off on his lonesome.
Any guesses who anyone ? No prizes but you will all guess right :lol
I saw Foley trying to run past but he was heading towards the defensive side... the tap went straight over his head and into the open....
Just on your current not favourite player Jack.... someone yelled out in the 3rd "tambling you are so soft" only problem was the player they were directing the spray to was number 13 not number 30.... tambling was 40 metres away :lol
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If its the King incident and I was coach this would be the advice I would give the kid.
1/ Dont play from behind, if you do you will run the risk of your opponent pushing back and then it is only natural that you will nudge or push him the back,
2/ Play side by side, Get a tape of Darren Gaspar in his prime, always played side by side and kept him opponent to the bounday at all costs, .
Might add Will Thursfield was doing this before he did his knee and is struggling a bit at the moment in regards to his speed.,thus getting caught behind
King was in front Jack .... look it is a stupid rule but if you place a hand in an opponents back then it is supposed to be free.. King should have got the free...because Grant placed one hand in his back....
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If its the King incident and I was coach this would be the advice I would give the kid.
1/ Dont play from behind, if you do you will run the risk of your opponent pushing back and then it is only natural that you will nudge or push him the back,
2/ Play side by side, Get a tape of Darren Gaspar in his prime, always played side by side and kept him opponent to the bounday at all costs, .
Might add Will Thursfield was doing this before he did his knee and is struggling a bit at the moment in regards to his speed.,thus getting caught behind
King was in front Jack .... look it is a stupid rule but if you place a hand in an opponents back then it is supposed to be free.. King should have got the free...because Grant placed one hand in his back....
There were 2 free kicks involving King
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Re Tambling
Let me preface my remarks by saying I was at ground level in the Olympic Stand with no radio or other input from supporters, so I don't have any stats to go on - but I can't see how he can be among our best.
I thought he cost us the first two goals of the second half with skill errors and always seems to have his body movements ahead of his brain. In the last quarter when we were pushing he was standing next to Wells in front of the members one second and in a flash Wells was making it two on one down the wing with Tambling 30 metres away trotting. He looks flash at times but doesn't do anywhere near enough for mine.
For me the excuses are up for Tambling. He's indigenous he's from NT he's young he's this he's that. Plain and simple he does not get enough of it and when he does he does not do enough with it. Flashy bits here and there and that is about it. His development has been slow and laborious when compared to other indigenous boys.
Franklin- may have a thriving and active "social life" but on a bad day like last nite he will kick 2 or 3 and what about Cyril Rioli and Stokes from the Hawks. Both boys are like grease lightning with 2nd 3rd and 4th efforts.
Time is up with Tambling we should accept that he is nowhere near consistent and good enough and rather than sugar coat these responces as he was a pick 4 in the draft and alot has been made by Terry picking him up ahead of Franklin and making a big deal about it and preying to God he will become a matchwinner. All he is, is a Richmond version of Leon Davis a few touches here and there light frame very flashy generally inconsistent and will never ever reach the potential alot of supporters believe he has. If ppl can just realise this then we can accept it and get on with life rather than waiting for that miracle to happen which won't as he is nowhere near good enough as the pick 4 draft we recruited in November 2004. Just not nowhere near good enough. Just does does not do enough and that is the truth plain and simple. 15-20 touches at best a few goals and a flashy act here and there. That pretty much sums up Richie in reality plain and simple.
We need to swallow our pride and accept this.
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Umpires affect on the game............................ZERO
Correct! :thumbsup
They did ... the margin should only be 35 points ... Grant's free a shocker...
Actually make that 29 points Jones in the fanl quarter tripping over his own feet, going to his knees and the falling forward..
You want a real disgrace of the game the hands in the back rule :banghead :banghead Goes from bad to worse
To say they lost the game for us wouldn't be true, but some of their decisions or non-decisions were laughable.
North player spins around holding the ball, gets tackled no free. If we did a 360 whilst being tackled, be a free straight away to them. But they go on and goal after it :banghead
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If its the King incident and I was coach this would be the advice I would give the kid.
1/ Dont play from behind, if you do you will run the risk of your opponent pushing back and then it is only natural that you will nudge or push him the back,
2/ Play side by side, Get a tape of Darren Gaspar in his prime, always played side by side and kept him opponent to the bounday at all costs, .
Might add Will Thursfield was doing this before he did his knee and is struggling a bit at the moment in regards to his speed.,thus getting caught behind
King was in front Jack .... look it is a stupid rule but if you place a hand in an opponents back then it is supposed to be free.. King should have got the free...because Grant placed one hand in his back....
Replay was inconclusive i reckon, although I think Kingy should have been given the benefit of the doubt.
Commentators didn't think it was a free (why doesn't that amaze me lol) as they thought it wasn't his hands but forearms that edged him out. Just a real dirty night for Kingy :-(
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Re Tambling
Let me preface my remarks by saying I was at ground level in the Olympic Stand with no radio or other input from supporters, so I don't have any stats to go on - but I can't see how he can be among our best.
I thought he cost us the first two goals of the second half with skill errors and always seems to have his body movements ahead of his brain. In the last quarter when we were pushing he was standing next to Wells in front of the members one second and in a flash Wells was making it two on one down the wing with Tambling 30 metres away trotting. He looks flash at times but doesn't do anywhere near enough for mine.
For me the excuses are up for Tambling. He's indigenous he's from NT he's young he's this he's that. Plain and simple he does not get enough of it and when he does he does not do enough with it. Flashy bits here and there and that is about it. His development has been slow and laborious when compared to other indigenous boys.
Franklin- may have a thriving and active "social life" but on a bad day like last nite he will kick 2 or 3 and what about Cyril Rioli and Stokes from the Hawks. Both boys are like grease lightning with 2nd 3rd and 4th efforts.
Time is up with Tambling we should accept that he is nowhere near consistent and good enough and rather than sugar coat these responces as he was a pick 4 in the draft and alot has been made by Terry picking him up ahead of Franklin and making a big deal about it and preying to God he will become a matchwinner. All he is, is a Richmond version of Leon Davis a few touches here and there light frame very flashy generally inconsistent and will never ever reach the potential alot of supporters believe he has. If ppl can just ralise this then we can accept it and get on with life rather than waiting for that miracle to happen which won't as he is nowhere near good enough as the pick 4 draft we recruited in November 2004. Just not nowhere near good enough. Just does does not do enough and that is the truth plain and simple. 15-20 touches at best a few goals and a flashy act here and there. That pretty much sums up Richie in reality plain and simple.
We need to swallow our pride and accept this.
Totally agree
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Maybe Tambling = Krakouer
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Maybe Tambling = Krakouer
Ridiculous premise.
Wash your keyboard immediately
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Tambling is showing signs, some some very nice inside work which sometimes goes unnoticed, still makes mistakes, but he is improved from 12 months ago.
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Richard Tambling i thought was Good. Good being he wanted the Football. I honestly think he has bad luck. He gets caught with the Football only because he gets it first and gets tackled. He had the football slapped out of his hands which was a fluke. Tambling in the midfield was good. He still needs to chase and run hard to man up like the rest of the players.
When we have the Football we look good. Without the football we are slack and look slow. Very bad defensive plan.
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Tambling is showing signs, some some very nice inside work which sometimes goes unnoticed, still makes mistakes, but he is improved from 12 months ago.
Agree Ramps. Blingers was about the only Tiger who could win the ball and a clearance. There just was no support in there with Foley well held. The blocking, protecting and shepherding of last week was totally non-existent yesterday :banghead. It was laughable at one stage watching Tambo in the centre of the ground against 5 Roos and then having to be the only one doing the chasing.
You don't win many games with a majority of passengers.
We were flat to start with so we were playing catch up from the first minute and most Tigers didn't want to do the hard yards anyway as someone said. When we had the ball no one was running hard into space when we switched the play. North did very well spreading out and zoning across the middle of the ground and we were too dumb to break it down. When we did work hard through a good chase to gain possession we just turned it back over to North. Our mistakes gave them a free ride into their forward line.
When North had the ball Tigers were 10-20m off their direct opponent and North continually worked the ball down either wing keep the 40m space ahead of the kicker open so they could easily lead into that space (again we were too dumb to wake up to what they were doing - all it needed was someone to stand in the hole and force the kicker to go sideways).
We were dominated in the centre thanks to McIntosh and Hale being too tall in the ruck (we need a 200+cm ruckman) and our lazy mids were continally second to the ball and reactive. A simple case of bad old habits. North owned the centre corridor - game over.
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Thought King was hard done by with that free against him. What about the mark Moore took that wasn't paid? Even the commentators (Spud included) said it should have been paid. Some plain dumb kicking all round. Schultz kicking to McMahon who was practically facing backwards. Polak bombing to Richo who had 5 opponents. Joel Bowden - several times. McMahon - several times. I didn't think Tambling was out of the ordinary. Needs to make his tackles stick.
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Worried about Browny as well.
Despite a few cameos last week he has been well held both games and is having trouble getting near the footy. Looks a pace or two short at the moment and that's not helpful when you are a crumbing forward.
He'd want to play well next week against his bunnies or dare I say it he might be having a stint at Coburg. :-\
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the Kangaroos were waiting for this clash, they smashed us from fitness, skills, game plan, coaching,
we didnot have any winners & nothing to take out of that game, we were simply smashed by a better club
Dont blame the umpires blame the coaching & the players that was pathetic from all involved :banghead
6.2k in 2 rounds & we aint even near round 6 :banghead RFC can get stuffed :banghead
them players would have leather burns for over use of the ball, Stupid decision & Raines :lol his as stupid as McMahon another recruited dud why do we recruit this weakling type players,
Jackstar your on the money :thumbsup everything you been bagged about in the past weeks is showing out in the tigers now
No excuses at all from anyone we were smashed by a better club. The cracks have appeared there are too many passengers on good money :help
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the Kangaroos were waiting for this clash, they smashed us from fitness, skills, game plan, coaching,
we didnot have any winners & nothing to take out of that game, we were simply smashed by a better club
Dont blame the umpires blame the coaching & the players that was pathetic from all involved :banghead
6.2k in 2 rounds & we aint even near round 6 :banghead RFC can get stuffed :banghead
them players would have leather burns for over use of the ball, Stupid decision & Raines :lol his as stupid as McMahon another recruited dud why do we recruit this weakling type players,
Jackstar your on the money :thumbsup everything you been bagged about in the past weeks is showing out in the tigers now
No excuses at all from anyone we were smashed by a better club. The cracks have appeared there are too many passengers on good money :help
;) Only post what I know
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rubbish.
We were not smashed.
We put up a better performance than Essendon, Melbourne, West Coast and Port Adelaide. THose teams were smashed.
It wasnt a good performance but stuff, the team from last year would've fell over when we got 7 goals behind in that 3rd quarter and we would've lost by 80 points.
We were beaten by a better side, a side that should finish top 4, and deep down we really didnt expect this to be a win but we hoped and hoped for an upset.
Its no shame losing to the Kangas and I cant believe the ferals who jump on to maul us after just one loss.
If we get smashed next week vs COllingwood, the time will come to start asking serious questions.
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Re Tambling
Let me preface my remarks by saying I was at ground level in the Olympic Stand with no radio or other input from supporters, so I don't have any stats to go on - but I can't see how he can be among our best.
I thought he cost us the first two goals of the second half with skill errors and always seems to have his body movements ahead of his brain. In the last quarter when we were pushing he was standing next to Wells in front of the members one second and in a flash Wells was making it two on one down the wing with Tambling 30 metres away trotting. He looks flash at times but doesn't do anywhere near enough for mine.
For me the excuses are up for Tambling. He's indigenous he's from NT he's young he's this he's that. Plain and simple he does not get enough of it and when he does he does not do enough with it. Flashy bits here and there and that is about it. His development has been slow and laborious when compared to other indigenous boys.
Franklin- may have a thriving and active "social life" but on a bad day like last nite he will kick 2 or 3 and what about Cyril Rioli and Stokes from the Hawks. Both boys are like grease lightning with 2nd 3rd and 4th efforts.
Time is up with Tambling we should accept that he is nowhere near consistent and good enough and rather than sugar coat these responces as he was a pick 4 in the draft and alot has been made by Terry picking him up ahead of Franklin and making a big deal about it and preying to God he will become a matchwinner. All he is, is a Richmond version of Leon Davis a few touches here and there light frame very flashy generally inconsistent and will never ever reach the potential alot of supporters believe he has. If ppl can just realise this then we can accept it and get on with life rather than waiting for that miracle to happen which won't as he is nowhere near good enough as the pick 4 draft we recruited in November 2004. Just not nowhere near good enough. Just does does not do enough and that is the truth plain and simple. 15-20 touches at best a few goals and a flashy act here and there. That pretty much sums up Richie in reality plain and simple.
We need to swallow our pride and accept this.
u know im sick of this kid. he is not in our best 22 and if u people think he is well maybe we are not watching the same game.
he is slow, lacks skill and confidence and seems to run into traffic. he has no footy brain and deserves to be sent right back to reserves permanently.
but wallace wont do this cause it will admit he got it wrong with this kid.
in my opinion tambo wont work. he is gone. send him away back to darwin. at least rodan when we had him ran chased and tackled.
tell me what does this waste of a top 5 pick actually do out there? ill tell u..nothing!!
another pretender in my books im sick of it. we have too many on our list.
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We didn't turn up to play and deservedly paid for it. Actually thought only Schulz and Tambo did turn up.
The standard of umpiring was terrible but it is in most games now so it had no effect. Not paying Moore that mark was a disgraceful decision though. However if your always second to ball then the umps won't be your friend.
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Umpires make mistakes stop using it as a excuse Richmond were pumped in all areas
what makes it worse is the display of coaching & poor matchups.
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We didn't turn up to play and deservedly paid for it. Actually thought only Schulz and Tambo did turn up.
The standard of umpiring was terrible but it is in most games now so it had no effect. Not paying Moore that mark was a disgraceful decision though. However if your always second to ball then the umps won't be your friend.
mt you gotta be kidding yourself? tambo came to play. wtf???
he had 15 possy's and about 7 clangers. he is a waste of a draft pick lets be honest and apart from one quarter against the eagles last year he has done nothing but mope around feeling sorry for himself. in a time he should be doubting the critics all he does is enhance his reputation as one of the worst decisions any club has made at the draft table.
i aint making any more excuses for him anymore cause i just think he is plain crap and not up to it
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Tambling is getting better as a player but l blame the coaching of him & other players drop in skills & development
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Umpires make mistakes stop using it as a excuse Richmond were pumped in all areas
what makes it worse is the display of coaching & poor matchups.
Correct. this site so entertaining :lol :lol, actually watching the positioning of Jordon McMahon as a hit up forward for most of the game yesterday was a joke.
Umpires make no difference to the result of the game.
If the backman stand side by side there opponent, guess what? There opponent cant back into them. Now who is our backline coach?? :banghead :banghead
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one thing i will say i was pleased with schulz's endeavour in this game. He seemed to do the things we had hoped for in most of his other games he has played with us.
2 players i am really worried about it is petts and browny. when the chips are down these 2 more than others go missing.
browny when the team's down he seems to go into his shell and look disinterested.
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browny when the team's down he seems to go into his shell and look disinterested.
Browny worries me too. He's had such a rough time of it over the last couple of years and he isn't getting any younger, I just hope he isn't losing his drive. He is one of our few genuine match winners, we can't afford to lose that. He proved against Carlton that he can have a bad game and still kick 3 goals, but Carlton's not much good. He used to be able to have a bad game and still kick a few against a really good side. I watch with interest.
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there were 21 players out their yesterday that did not perform as good as tambling
cant believe some ppl still bagging blingers when he is showing real good signs
its not his fault 90% of the team are to stupid to play along side him
he was our best midfeilder yesterday by a mile
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there were 21 players out their yesterday that did not perform as good as tambling
cant believe some ppl still bagging blingers when he is showing real good signs
its not his fault 90% of the team are to stupid to play along side him
he was our best midfeilder yesterday by a mile
he was not our best mid yesterday are you kidding. not the worst, yes ill give u that but not our best.
15 possy's half a dozen clangers u do the math. he and others should be doing more.
only person in my eyes who did what was required was schulz
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Tell you what gives me the Sh-its about Schulz, they way he carries on after a goal, we are eight goals down and he kicks a goal and good on him, but to celebrate the way he does you would think we were 10 goals up :banghead
Dont see the G-Train carry on like a ""pork chop"" when he kicks a goal do you ???
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To have clangers you have to get the ball. So Tambling got the ball = positive.
Have a look at some of the clangers, they were caused by having no support from his teammates.
At least he gave us something out of the centre unlie a few others that were thrown in there.
No one has mentioned Jackson - thought he was poor yesterday, was wondering if almost losing his head had some after effects this week
Tell you what gives me the Sh-its about Schulz, they way he carries on after a goal, we are eight goals down and he kicks a goal and good on him, but to celebrate the way he does you would think we were 10 goals up :banghead
Trying to lift his teammates Jack aint no sin.... as for Fraser ... :chuck no team player there ;D
Seems our players can't win either way. Get criticised for not showing enough emotion & passion get whacked if they do ;D
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Tell you what gives me the Sh-its about Schulz, they way he carries on after a goal, we are eight goals down and he kicks a goal and good on him, but to celebrate the way he does you would think we were 10 goals up :banghead
Dont see the G-Train carry on like a ""pork chop"" when he kicks a goal do you ???
haha true true
u know i heard someone bag buddy for doing the same when they were 10 goals up but so what. he is a champion footballer far from what schulz is
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To have clangers you have to get the ball. So Tambling got the ball = positive.
Have a look at some of the clangers, they were caused by having no support from his teammates.
At least he gave us something out of the centre unlie a few others that were thrown in there.
No one has mentioned Jackson - thought he was poor yesterday, was wondering if almost losing his head had some after effects this week
Tell you what gives me the Sh-its about Schulz, they way he carries on after a goal, we are eight goals down and he kicks a goal and good on him, but to celebrate the way he does you would think we were 10 goals up :banghead
Trying to lift his teammates Jack aint no sin.... as for Fraser ... :chuck no team player there ;D
Seems our players can't win either way. Get criticised for not showing enough emotion & passion get whacked if they do ;D
Just hate with a passion players carrying on like clowns when we are goals down. schulz,s running on his toes isnt even entertaining.
I actually love the way Fraser Gehrig plays. He is real no fuss.
I dont see Nathan Thompson carry on like a clown when he kicks a goal, :birthday
he just concentrates on getting the next one and the next one.
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Thought Schultz was one of the only shinning light in an otherwise dark day for our playing list.
Lead well, kicked beautifully and marked strongly. I also saw Richo and Jay actually work together during one passage of play!
Tambling was the our only midfielder who even looked like getting the ball around the centre bounces and recieved little to no support from those around him. There was numerous passages where he was able to dance around the opposition and break the lines which I rarely saw from anyone else in the team for the whole match. Yes he made a few clangers but that was because he had no one to pass off to or shepperd for him so he was faced time after time with a wall of opposition. Was our best midfielder on the day and is improving each week.
Thursty was terrific and continues to improve. Lids was great in the middle and has the finishing skills which are almost unique in our team. Cleve was very nervous but showed a bit.
Kingy had a dog of a day but never gave up and kept fighting. TW should have made the move with Moore earlier as every forward who he played on isolated him in the square and exposed his height.
Petts went missing, Browny was disappointing and maybe finished, Hyde should not play again, Polo was unaccountable, Foley blanketed, Raines is on the improve but was injuried, Simmonds thoroughly beaten, Tuck was only their for his size and Patto looked clumsy and slow.
Overall though, we never gave up and in the last quarter we showed our fitness and almost ran them off their feet like we did to Carlton last week. If only players like Tambling had more support during this period we may have put more scoreboard pressure on the Roos.
Stripes
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Richie is increasingly looking like the 2nd coming of Foley. Got lots of clearances yesterday, too bad he had no one to kick to :P
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Tell you what gives me the Sh-its about Schulz, they way he carries on after a goal, we are eight goals down and he kicks a goal and good on him, but to celebrate the way he does you would think we were 10 goals up :banghead
Dont see the G-Train carry on like a ""pork chop"" when he kicks a goal do you ???
That`s because the G-Train doesn`t care :thumbsup
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Hyde was average at best - no 2nd efforts and terrible decison making and poor disposal
Hyde should not play again
Stripes
Enough of the Chris Hyde bashing!
He only made one mistake yesterday. All but one of his possessions hit the target and that is a trait that has been sorely lacking at RFC for a long time.
Some people forget that this guy fractured his skull having a dip for our club.
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lazy and dumb unaccountable football we get you all the time. :banghead
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Up there at last
Geoff McClure
The Age, April 1, 2008
AND no wonder Richmond fans are feeling a little pleased with themselves despite their 41-point loss to North Melbourne on Sunday. The Tigers are still in the eight, albeit just, having made it there in round one, ending what was a 30-round streak in the bottom half of the ladder.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/where-were-you-bucks/2008/03/31/1206850811035.html
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To have clangers you have to get the ball. So Tambling got the ball = positive.
Have a look at some of the clangers, they were caused by having no support from his teammates.
At least he gave us something out of the centre unlie a few others that were thrown in there.
No one has mentioned Jackson - thought he was poor yesterday, was wondering if almost losing his head had some after effects this week
Tell you what gives me the Sh-its about Schulz, they way he carries on after a goal, we are eight goals down and he kicks a goal and good on him, but to celebrate the way he does you would think we were 10 goals up :banghead
Trying to lift his teammates Jack aint no sin.... as for Fraser ... :chuck no team player there ;D
Seems our players can't win either way. Get criticised for not showing enough emotion & passion get whacked if they do ;D
totally agree wp
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Tell you what gives me the Sh-its about Schulz, they way he carries on after a goal, we are eight goals down and he kicks a goal and good on him, but to celebrate the way he does you would think we were 10 goals up :banghead
lol. EVERYTHING gives you the Sh-its about Schulz.
He doesn't play well and kicks no goals you get the Sh-its.
He kicks goals and plays well you get the Sh-its.
You must be on the toilet a lot Jacky. :lol
Agree re the sentiments about Tambling. I too thought he toiled hard and he and Lids were our best mids.
If you want to find whipping boys for last week look at Tuck, Jackson & Polo.
They gave us very little but hey have a crack at the guy who's trying.. :P
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One thing that really stood out for me was the centre square clearances.
I thought we got our hands on it enough, but we don't spread from the contest very well, try to bust through tackles, then try to handball as we're getting tackled. You sometimes have to go backwards to go forwards!! :banghead
We get it from a ball-up and go back into the congested area! :banghead
The Kangaroos get hands to the ball, then through a chain of 3-4 handballs the ball is with a half back or winger running by and they're away.
This isn't a talent problem, this is either:
a) a coaching problem; or
b) our players are too dumb to understand what they're being taught.
We could make do with what we have in regards to midfielders, they do get enough of it, the quality that will be injected into the middle is still too young.
It's a crime that a forward line with a fair bit of talent and marking power doesn't get the ball often enough.
Collingwood have O'Bree, Burns and Johnson, not Daniel Kerr's, not by a long shot, but they can get the ball and are not DUMB FOOTBALLERS. All this talk about speedy midfielders is a myth, you do need some speed, but first and foremost it's footy smarts, experience and brains!
We were smashed out of the middle, the reason why is because we're DUMB!
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One thing that really stood out for me was the centre square clearances.
I thought we got our hands on it enough, but we don't spread from the contest very well, try to bust through tackles, then try to handball as we're getting tackled. You sometimes have to go backwards to go forwards!! :banghead
We get it from a ball-up and go back into the congested area! :banghead
The Kangaroos get hands to the ball, then through a chain of 3-4 handballs the ball is with a half back or winger running by and they're away.
This isn't a talent problem, this is either:
a) a coaching problem; or
b) our players are too dumb to understand what they're being taught.
We could make do with what we have in regards to midfielders, they do get enough of it, the quality that will be injected into the middle is still too young.
It's a crime that a forward line with a fair bit of talent and marking power doesn't get the ball often enough.
Collingwood have O'Bree, Burns and Johnson, not Daniel Kerr's, not by a long shot, but they can get the ball and are not DUMB FOOTBALLERS. All this talk about speedy midfielders is a myth, you do need some speed, but first and foremost it's footy smarts, experience and brains!
We were smashed out of the middle, the reason why is because we're DUMB!
Jackstar, come on I know you can't resist an opportunity...
:thumbsup
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I can resist, lol
NO I CANT!
lol.
All I will say is that as soon as North gained possesion at the clearnances, they spread extremely well with OUR onballers trailing some 15 metres behind them, or in some instances standing in the centre square.
Way to combat this is not have the player from the side of the square run all the way in, now thats not hard is it Wallet :thumbsup ::)
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Simmo was on SEN today saying they know they depend too much on Richo up forward. Well at least they get the message midweek :-\. The proof will be when they finally get the message gameday :whistle.
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The question is will Richo play a team game, or just try to mark everything that comes into the forward line whether or not it's meant for him.
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Richo will play his normal game cause he always seems to make a contest in the forward line & has the best set of hands. He is very strong & beats most backmen one on one/sometimes 2 players :thumbsup its his dropping the ball onto his foot thats his problem from set shots. l think its going to be a miserible day weather wise so who knows anything could happen :lol maybe the wet ball will slip onto his boot properly :gotigers
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Not wet on Sunday TM.
Fine Sunny Dry 21.
Hopefully he just has a day out of the box and kicks a bag of 7 or 8.