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Title: Changes Round 3
Post by: torch on March 31, 2008, 02:16:15 AM
Terry has said there will be changes made for Round 3. Type who you think will be In/Out.
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: mightytiges on March 31, 2008, 02:38:33 AM
WP and I were talking about this at the end of the game.

Sugar for Raines (inj)

Morton for Cleve. Jack's an obvious swap for Cleve but both need to gain a yard so went for Morton.

Tivs or White maybe in for Hyde (sorry Chris you've played your last game).
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: torch on March 31, 2008, 02:52:06 AM
Ins (Outs)

(these changes are what i want to see)

Johnson (Raines)
Morton (Hyde, hopefully never plays for Richmond again!)
Riewoldt (Polak)
Edwards (McMahon, He is "A Girl")

TUCK, TUCK, TUCK ... should be considered being dropped

When is Coughlan back ??? Where is Gourdis ??? How far is Cotchin ??? and Meyer ???


Don't drop Cleve Hughes. He is our future in forward line, he needs match experience Polo plays one match and people want to drop him ??? what is he going to learn ??? He did play on Havery. If that is the case, you should drop Brown, Pettifer, McMahon (All Terry's Favorites aka A.T.F). That will never happen.

Why isn't Deledio playing in the centre at all times ??? Deledio is very soft too if Richmond supporters haven't noticed!

Where do you play Schutz ??? Forward or Back ??? If he can do both which he showed he can, then Polak isn't needed. Polak is SO SLOW. Great hands, but SLOW.


Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: julzqld on March 31, 2008, 08:47:32 AM
Gerard Healy kept going on how Cleve doesn't follow through with his leg when he goes for goal.
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: tigersalive on March 31, 2008, 09:02:44 AM
Ins (Outs)

(these changes are what i want to see)

Johnson (Raines)
Morton (Hyde, hopefully never plays for Richmond again!)
Riewoldt (Polak)
Edwards (McMahon, He is "A Girl")

TUCK, TUCK, TUCK ... should be considered being dropped

When is Coughlan back ???not sure but its a hammy. Where is Gourdis ??? Gourdis wont be playing all year imo   How far is Cotchin ??? Hopefully return to the VFL this round or next.and Meyer ??? Dunno


Why isn't Deledio playing in the centre at all times ??? Deledio is very soft too if Richmond supporters haven't noticed!Are you kidding?  You didnt notice what Lids did in the midfield in the in-and-under last night when Terry finally put him in.  :-\

Where do you play Schutz ??? Forward or Back ??? If he can do both which he showed he can, then Polak isn't needed. Polak is SO SLOW. Great hands, but SLOW.  Back, I like the look of what he does back there, not not convinced of him up forward.
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: Mr Magic on March 31, 2008, 09:38:25 AM
IN:
Morton Riewoldt White Johnson

Out:
Hughes McMahon Hyde Raines
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: Stripes on March 31, 2008, 10:00:46 AM
Likely changes

Out                             In

Raines (inj)                 Johnson

Hyde                         White

Pett                          Morton



And finally an unlikely but required and justified change IMO

Out                       In

Brown                Riewoldt


Justification

Outs

Raines - injury

Hyde - was given a chance but but came up wanting once again :(

Petts - didn't follow the game plan. I understand TW was very disappaointed with him and Browny for not following his directions. Has unperformed this year and doesn't seem to have the fitness this season to play as the CHF role running up into the midfield.

Unlikely Out - Brown

Browny is not the player he was and doesn't seem to have the speed or agility he needs to get away from his opponent and cause damage. He still is a great kick but is becoming more of a liability that an asset of late.



Ins

Johnson - we missed his strength, experince and (dare I say it) leadership. He played a great game last week and deserves his place in the midfield. He was actually missed last night!

White - played a sensational game on the weekend for Coburg where he seemed to be everywhere and in everything. Tiv, Connors and Collins also all played good games but White was the stand out.

Morton - similiarly to White, Morton played a great game for the 2nd this week where he kicked a lazy 7. He was recruited to play in the seniors and has proven that he has the ability to be dangerous on the HFF and up the wing.

Unlikely In - Riewoldt

Unlikely because of who he would be replacing more than because of anything he hasn't done. Riewoldt played a terrific game and kicked 6 goals himself and could have finished with 7 himself but unselfishlessly handballed off to Morton who was waiting in the goal square for one goal.

Riewoldt has the engine and played up the ground for some of the Coburg game and always looks dangerous. He plays for the team and is a natural leader but I feel he is still needs more size before he can play the HF role (which I get the feeling he is being groomed for). Morton would be my first choice at the moment but I wouldn't be unhappy if Riewoldt was included instead...as long as he takes his opportunities to kick for goal rather than always looking to pass off the Richo (a epidemic down at Tigerland it seems ;()


Whatever the changes I agree with you julzqld - Lids needs to be in the centre and Cleve needs more time to dvelop and gain confience which is why he missed the first couple of goals last night. We need strength and finishing skills in the middle and Lids possesses both. With Foley taking the number one tagger each week Lids may find that he doesn't have the same tagging problems he had in he past but regardless he needs to learn strategies to brake tags.


Stripes




Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: wayne again on March 31, 2008, 04:13:24 PM
Likely changes

Out                             In

Raines (inj)                 Johnson

Hyde                         White

Pett                          Morton



And finally an unlikely but required and justified change IMO

Out                       In

Brown                Riewoldt


Justification

Outs

Raines - injury

Hyde - was given a chance but but came up wanting once again :(

Petts - didn't follow the game plan. I understand TW was very disappaointed with him and Browny for not following his directions. Has unperformed this year and doesn't seem to have the fitness this season to play as the CHF role running up into the midfield.

Unlikely Out - Brown

Browny is not the player he was and doesn't seem to have the speed or agility he needs to get away from his opponent and cause damage. He still is a great kick but is becoming more of a liability that an asset of late.



Ins

Johnson - we missed his strength, experince and (dare I say it) leadership. He played a great game last week and deserves his place in the midfield. He was actually missed last night!

White - played a sensational game on the weekend for Coburg where he seemed to be everywhere and in everything. Tiv, Connors and Collins also all played good games but White was the stand out.

Morton - similiarly to White, Morton played a great game for the 2nd this week where he kicked a lazy 7. He was recruited to play in the seniors and has proven that he has the ability to be dangerous on the HFF and up the wing.

Unlikely In - Riewoldt

Unlikely because of who he would be replacing more than because of anything he hasn't done. Riewoldt played a terrific game and kicked 6 goals himself and could have finished with 7 himself but unselfishlessly handballed off to Morton who was waiting in the goal square for one goal.

Riewoldt has the engine and played up the ground for some of the Coburg game and always looks dangerous. He plays for the team and is a natural leader but I feel he is still needs more size before he can play the HF role (which I get the feeling he is being groomed for). Morton would be my first choice at the moment but I wouldn't be unhappy if Riewoldt was included instead...as long as he takes his opportunities to kick for goal rather than always looking to pass off the Richo (a epidemic down at Tigerland it seems ;()


Whatever the changes I agree with you julzqld - Lids needs to be in the centre and Cleve needs more time to dvelop and gain confience which is why he missed the first couple of goals last night. We need strength and finishing skills in the middle and Lids possesses both. With Foley taking the number one tagger each week Lids may find that he doesn't have the same tagging problems he had in he past but regardless he needs to learn strategies to brake tags.


Stripes

I like everything you have said except for Browny out. I think before he gets dropped give him more of a go in the middle,  get the confidence and possesions up if that don't work then maybe drop him. 1 more week for Browny he can change the game when he is in form. :thumbsup



Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: Mr Magic on March 31, 2008, 05:40:01 PM


And finally an unlikely but required and justified change IMO

Out                       In

Brown                Riewoldt


Crazy stuff.
Brown kicked 3 last week and was largely responsible for winning the game when switched to the middle.
His performance yesterday was ordinary but far too early in the piece to make a call like this.
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: Stripes on March 31, 2008, 09:59:38 PM
Browny has never recovered fully from his injury and has lost much of his agility. He has been blanketed by the opposition in both games. Last week I think his goals were as much opportunistic as through good play but one thing is for certain, he still knows how to kick a ball.

I love the guy and will never forget his '05 form but I just hope I am wrong about his dwindling speed and elusiveness.

I hope I am wrong because If I am it means a lot more wins for the Tigers this year!

Stripes

Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: bluey_21 on March 31, 2008, 10:29:42 PM
IMO Hughes needs to stay in the team and be given at least 5 consecutive games to settle in. It isn't going to help him throwing him back to the Burgers after 2 games. The only really negative in his game yesterday was his goal-kicking. He lead reasonably well IMO and ended up with 3-4 shots on goal. If he had his kicking boots on and kicked 3 everyone would be singing his praises.
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: Go Richo 12 on March 31, 2008, 11:17:05 PM
IMO Hughes needs to stay in the team and be given at least 5 consecutive games to settle in. It isn't going to help him throwing him back to the Burgers after 2 games. The only really negative in his game yesterday was his goal-kicking. He lead reasonably well IMO and ended up with 3-4 shots on goal. If he had his kicking boots on and kicked 3 everyone would be singing his praises.
I like the look of cleve. He`s got bigger,moves with more confidence and if he kicked straight( yes, i know good footballers kick straight) we all would have been rapt with his output. Petts is under the pump and so is Browny. He`s form has not been good if you count the pre season. Morton must come in, and someone for Rainesy but do we have to any further?
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: rogerd3 on March 31, 2008, 11:44:55 PM
whats happened to cleve's kicking?..was one of his strong points.
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: blx on April 01, 2008, 12:44:31 AM
i was watching his warm up and noticed his kicks were being sliced and moved late offline to the right.

this is exactly how his missed shots travelled too. a technique thing.

his kicks do have a beautiful flight so its nothing major so i have faith he'll be ok.
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: {X} on April 01, 2008, 07:35:43 AM
dont think there will be radial changes this week

terry said in his press conference will make changes but wants to see how the boys go over a period of games not just 1 game

so next week

in sugar and mitch/tiv
out raines and hyde

tivendale may just get the nod to replace raines as he played off hbf for the burgers and ran hard

but i hope mitch riewoldt connors polo collins rance cotchin etc are all in the team by round 10
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 01, 2008, 07:52:06 AM
dont think there will be radial changes this week

terry said in his press conference will make changes but wants to see how the boys go over a period of games not just 1 game

so next week

in sugar and mitch/tiv
out raines and hyde

tivendale may just get the nod to replace raines as he played off hbf for the burgers and ran hard

but i hope mitch riewoldt connors polo collins rance cotchin etc are all in the team by round 10

round 10 no way.
tell me why morton should not get rewarded and be in the team and take petts spot.

what the hell has petts done seriously??

if morton is not in this week then we have serious issues

in sugar, morton, and dare i say tivers
out raines, hyde and petts

wallace needs to take a stand with players like petts and co who just coast in the team and expect there spot week in week out.
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: wayne again on April 01, 2008, 02:07:42 PM
Have to agree Morton IN   out Petts

Again we recruited Morton he has shows he can kick goals lets give him a go.
Or even Edwards in, not sure how he is going but i still love to see him playing.  :pray

Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: WA Tiger on April 01, 2008, 02:18:46 PM
OUT: Hyde, Polo, Raines (injured), Hughes & McMahon

In: Morton, Johnson, White, Riewoldt & Tivendale

If Terry is serious about weilding the axe then at least 3-4 and even 5 changes need to be made. He may give McMahon and Hughes one more chance. I don't actually think Hughes has been playing that bad and neither has McMahon but they are holding back about 10-15%.
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: Mr Magic on April 01, 2008, 02:31:06 PM
Changes:
Johnson for Tuck - Tuck was very disappointing to me last week. Remind him what Coburg is like. Need more pace.
White for Raines - Forced injury change. Whitey deserves his chance.
Morton for McMahon - More strike power. McMahon is extremely disappointing.

Lucky:
Hughes - Has shown enough to persevere with for at least another week.
Hyde - Poor but dropping a player after one week is unfair.
Polo - See above. Needs to work back into it.

*Brown & Pettifer on notice.
Title: Re: Changes Round 3
Post by: {X} on April 01, 2008, 03:42:38 PM
dont think there will be radial changes this week

terry said in his press conference will make changes but wants to see how the boys go over a period of games not just 1 game

so next week

in sugar and mitch/tiv
out raines and hyde

tivendale may just get the nod to replace raines as he played off hbf for the burgers and ran hard

but i hope mitch riewoldt connors polo collins rance cotchin etc are all in the team by round 10

round 10 no way.
tell me why morton should not get rewarded and be in the team and take petts spot.

what the hell has petts done seriously??

if morton is not in this week then we have serious issues

in sugar, morton, and dare i say tivers
out raines, hyde and petts

wallace needs to take a stand with players like petts and co who just coast in the team and expect there spot week in week out.

you didnt understand my post

by round 10 i hope all those will be in the team collectively

do u get it???