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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 03, 2008, 10:42:28 PM
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He's out of contract and although he says he's happy at Brisbane he also said you still look at all offers.
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He's out of contract and although he says he's happy at Brisbane he also said you still look at all offers.
ill put my house on it that he wont be going to punt road. thats such a funny post
i work with his lady of about 5 years and she is based in brisbane so doubt he is going anywhere
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We could always do a Carlton and work feverishly hard to get pick 1 and 2 in the draft and then get Jonathon Brown using the pick 2 as a trade leveridge and still picking up Natanui as a pick 1. May as well do it as if teams come in from Qld or NSW all the draft concessions will go to them and if we are still lowly we will miss out again. Most people would agree finals are out the question realistically this year so looking ahead to the future and creating options that would put us in a much stronger position on field. Why not? Even so it would be and act of negligence and misappropriation if the RFC did not investigate this and act accordingly. Richo will not be around forever and memberships will boom if Browny was to be recruited. Would be a huge huge coup if we were to able to bring Browny to the footy club. Yet somehow he treasures the fact he plays for Brissy and his dad played for Fitzroy and he will more than likely stay there but you can't blame this Tiger for dreaming.
Carlton like a good accountant were able to find loopholes in the system and use them to their advantage and keep them a step ahead of their opponents. Nevertheless We need to get aggressive and make th RFC attractive once again for gun players and not a second chance half way house for players well past their use by date or just happy to live the perks of an AFL existence. :thumbsup :gotigers
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He's out of contract and although he says he's happy at Brisbane he also said you still look at all offers.
ill put my house on it that he wont be going to punt road. thats such a funny post
i work with his lady of about 5 years and she is based in brisbane so doubt he is going anywhere
Yep it ain't gonna happen but Hutchy made a big deal about it so I put it out there.
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Carlton like a good accountant were able to find loopholes in the system and use them to their advantage and keep them a step ahead of their opponents. :thumbsup :gotigers
Yep, Carlton sure fooled the AFL with their tricky accounting. How many years of no draft picks and how much was the fine again? They are still paying for that piece of outstanding trickery and their position on the ladder sure doesn't scream "ahead of their opponents" to me.
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Carlton like a good accountant were able to find loopholes in the system and use them to their advantage and keep them a step ahead of their opponents. :thumbsup :gotigers
Yep, Carlton sure fooled the AFL with their tricky accounting. How many years of no draft picks and how much was the fine again? They are still paying for that piece of outstanding trickery and their position on the ladder sure doesn't scream "ahead of their opponents" to me.
Excellent point smokey - plus they are given scant respect by the football community.
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No fricken way.
Awesome player who I would love to have had at Richmond in his prime but the bulk of these power forwards have a limited shelf life and usually begin to decline around 26/27.
The cost would be unlikely to match the return I'm afraid.
If I was Brisbane I'd be entertaining all offers.
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Carlton like a good accountant were able to find loopholes in the system and use them to their advantage and keep them a step ahead of their opponents. :thumbsup :gotigers
Yep, Carlton sure fooled the AFL with their tricky accounting. How many years of no draft picks and how much was the fine again? They are still paying for that piece of outstanding trickery and their position on the ladder sure doesn't scream "ahead of their opponents" to me.
Excellent point smokey - plus they are given scant respect by the football community.
That was 6 years ago lads in 02 the death knell to the Elliott era. Events of the last 6 months and the turning of the blind eye by the AFL Commission in regards to tanking and other issues ensured that the Blues got their man in Judd no matter what no questions asked. Different era now. Someone with real money is actually pulling the strings now as opposed to 2002 when Elliots personal business political football and professional life was all falling apart and was being played out publically in the back pages of the Herald Sun. :thumbsup
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He's out of contract and although he says he's happy at Brisbane he also said you still look at all offers.
ill put my house on it that he wont be going to punt road. thats such a funny post
i work with his lady of about 5 years and she is based in brisbane so doubt he is going anywhere
Maybe to the Gold Coast? ;)
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No. Should not waste our time on something that will never happen.
Only Collingwood has a chance.
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No Richmond should stay away from Jonathan Brown & continue to breed thier own players to there own style of football
same goes with Ben Cousins NO NO NO
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Apparently Brown is up with Judd as the highest paid player in the AFL on $1.5m per year (inc. perks). Even if he wanted to leave the Lions it would be too expensive both in terms of $$$ and draft picks.
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No
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He's out of contract and although he says he's happy at Brisbane he also said you still look at all offers.
Why when we`ve got Cleve? :lol
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The Pies are going to offer Brown the captaincy is he decides to leave Brisbane.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23551789-19742,00.html
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The Pies are going to offer Brown the captaincy is he decides to leave Brisbane.
Every year some big name is supposedly going to Collingwood but it never happens. Wishful thinking Pies. Just like the Blues thinking Pavlich is going to Carlton next year :rollin.
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Most valueable player in the league by a fair distance IMO
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Most valueable player in the league by a fair distance IMO
Absolutely agree 100%
Would take him in a instant
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Caro has us as one of 3 Vic clubs along with the Dogs and Pies to tick all the boxes as far as getting Jonathan Brown.
Is Jonathan Brown coming home?
Caroline Wilson | May 30, 2008
JONATHAN Brown is no certainty to remain at the Brisbane Lions beyond this season, with club and player at odds over the tenure of his next contract.
The price tag was placed close to $6 million over five years.
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If Jonathan Brown is to leave Brisbane and come back to Victoria then three key pieces have to fit into place.
Window: The team will need to be within three years of a chance at the flag.
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Salary cap: If it can’t afford him then it’s a non-starter. Needs: He might be a superstar, but if your midfield is getting flogged then he’s probably not a priority.
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Needs: He might be a superstar, but if your midfield is getting flogged then he’s probably not a priority.
RICHMOND
1. Window *
2. Salary cap *
3. Needs *
Conclusion An intriguing one. Can the Tigers get close within three years? It’s a possibility. Certainly there will be room in the cap and the needs are obvious. One to watch.
Full list and article at:
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/is-he-coming-home/2008/05/29/1211654222126.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
Hutchy last night though said Brown won't be leaving Brisbane.
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Always had the impression Brown doesn't respect us much. I get the feeling we would be the last club he would want to join.
Even so, how much would he cost at draft time? Too much I would think especially with drafts after 2008 looking dodgy because of the new teams entering the competition.
It worked for Geelong with Ottens, he was the last piece in their premiership team. I rate Brown a lot higher than Ottens since he isn't injured all the time. Are we as good as Geelong in 2005? Wouldn't have thought so. Can we afford to have no early picks this year and gamble on the state of the draft for the next few years? Wouldn't have thought so.
As exciting as it sound I think it's pass for me.
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Richmond is chasing the FEV ;) which l heard in a group of people at a gathering early in the year (nuff said) ;D
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Richmond is chasing the FEV ;) which l heard in a group of people at a gathering early in the year (nuff said) ;D
fair dinkum TM. that cant be true.
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We won't be in a position to trade anything.
At the rate we're going, we're looking at a draft pick between 5-8 and we don't have any players of trade value that are outside our untouchables.
We're not at the stage in our development where Brown could be the difference between a flag or 5-8 position on the ladder. I also see him as a risk because he is injury prone.
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Richmond is chasing the FEV ;) which l heard in a group of people at a gathering early in the year (nuff said) ;D
fair dinkum TM. that cant be true.
:thumbsup
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Richmond is chasing the FEV ;) which l heard in a group of people at a gathering early in the year (nuff said) ;D
my fave the fev.
make him a Tiger :thumbsup
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Richmond is chasing the FEV ;) which l heard in a group of people at a gathering early in the year (nuff said) ;D
my fave the fev.
make him a Tiger :thumbsup
Have some respect for the jumper
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Look out if him and Sugar ever went out on the turps together. Don the raincoats!!!!!! :o
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Richmond is chasing the FEV ;) which l heard in a group of people at a gathering early in the year (nuff said) ;D
my fave the fev.
make him a Tiger :thumbsup
Have some respect for the jumper
back under ur rock mopsy.
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Getting Fevola would be like getting Cousins or Kerr. Too much trouble, too much risk. Not suited to the culture growing at our club and especially not suited around our kids. Let them be someone else's problem, we don't need them.
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Getting Fevola would be like getting Cousins or Kerr. Too much trouble, too much risk. Not suited to the culture growing at our club and especially not suited around our kids. Let them be someone else's problem, we don't need them.
Agreed 100%. We have some young options comming though so we dont need them. Let them bring down some other club and eat up thier cap room. Its all good for us that way. Maybe Collingwood will be convinced its close enough and can buy a flag. It would screw itself up for the next 5 years or more, wouldn't that be good.
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Getting Fevola would be like getting Cousins or Kerr. Too much trouble, too much risk. Not suited to the culture growing at our club and especially not suited around our kids. Let them be someone else's problem, we don't need them.
Agreed 100%. We have some young options comming though so we dont need them. Let them bring down some other club and eat up thier cap room. Its all good for us that way. Maybe Collingwood will be convinced its close enough and can buy a flag. It would screw itself up for the next 5 years or more, wouldn't that be good.
great to know there are others living under a rock :lol :thumbsup
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Weren't not in a position to be trading away first round picks (probably at least cost our second pick too) for players as good as they are in their late 20s. Fev will be 28 next year and Brown 27 and offering 4-5 year long contracts at that age is highly risky.
The only thing that makes me nervous is Miller seems to always want to pick someone up during trade week. This year more than any we should be trying to get more picks not giving them away :P. we are still a few years away from being a decent side. Remember this year despite a dream run injury-wise for a change we have only won 3 games and all against bottom 8 sides. One star player in his late 20s won't bridge the gap to a premiership.
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Caro just said on 3aw that she reckons we're interested in getting Jonathan Brown and believes Brown isn't happy at Brisbane. Even with Miller gone the current admin would still be interested. Walls reckons Brown is asking for a 5 year deal because the Lions will reject it and that will give him an out.
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Brown in demand but still Lion-hearted
Caroline Wilson | August 3, 2008
It also resulted in several clubs seeking on-field leadership and brilliance intensify their interest in Brown. Some players truly are big enough to change teams.
Richmond is another club with more than a passing interest in Brown in this, the last uncompromised draft for some years. And with Matthew Richardson nearing the end of his brilliant career at a club still searching for extroverted leadership, there is no reason why he would not be worth the risk of a five-year plunge.
There is no doubt Brown and the MCG have a way of creating a symphony on those rare but usually big occasions when the two combine.
And here's another thing. This might mean nothing at all, but when Richmond played Carlton at the 'G at the end of June, Brown was sitting in the stands among the crowd.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/brown-in-demand-but-still-lionhearted/2008/08/02/1217097619445.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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yes he is imo, still the best and most powerful player in the comp. he demands and commands respect
go get him tigers! and imagine how peed off the blues would be !
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He's 27 and wants a 5-year deal. Too risky. The club should stick with the draft and develop it's own champions rather than going for another quick fix. Geelong showed last night that we are still a long long way away. We need more than one player to add the class we still need.
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not risky, he is in his prime, since when is 27 old. we have enough young kids, at this rate we will be rebuilding for another 25 years.
so sick of how many feel the draft is the only answer every year. there is no j brown in this draft or the next or the one after. give him 5 yrs let him play til 32 and we will win at least 2 flags
we are young and too small, rreally need a leader and tough guy like brown
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Yep we need size but we need more than one player with size who'll be turning 30 just as our cubs start hitting their prime. We are nowhere near yet a flag and we still need more young class coming through to set us up for the next decade and this draft has plenty of good KPPs anyway.
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not risky, he is in his prime, since when is 27 old.
He's under an injury cloud every week!
That's risky to me.
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It was probably said in jest but tonight on 3aw when Russell said it was strange Brown hasn't re-signed, Caro quipped "well he may end up a Tiger Dwayne". Russell said "oh" to which Caro replied "you never know".
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It was probably said in jest but tonight on 3aw when Russell said it was strange Brown hasn't re-signed, Caro quipped "well he may end up a Tiger Dwayne". Russell said "oh" to which Caro replied "you never know".
Uumm thats a negative. Aliens have more chance of landing on earth next week than Jono Brown coming to the tigers.
seriously who we going to offer up as trade bait.. Schulz?? JON??? please
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Brisbane have offered Brown a 3-year deal at $2.5million according to the Australian so any other club would need to top that by some margin too to get their hands on Brown.
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Caro's still linking us with Brown
Given that at least two other Melbourne-based clubs, Collingwood and Richmond, have shown interest in Brown — with the Magpies having already unofficially tabled a complex five-year deal to the 26-year-old
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/dees-made-room-for-brown/2008/08/07/1217702255181.html
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The Swans did it with Lockett. Played 98 games for 462 goals and really made them extremely competitive. I'm pretty sure they signed him for 5 years. He was also 29 when he signed up with them. There are plenty of parallels to take out of this. Swans had a young up and coming team with lockett leading the way for them. Both Lockett and Brown are almost identical in the way they play the game. Taking all this into account, I would say go for it! The benefits for our club would well and truly outweigh any negatives. :thumbsup
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The Swans did it with Lockett. Played 98 games for 462 goals and really made them extremely competitive. I'm pretty sure they signed him for 5 years. He was also 29 when he signed up with them. There are plenty of parallels to take out of this. Swans had a young up and coming team with lockett leading the way for them. Both Lockett and Brown are almost identical in the way they play the game. Taking all this into account, I would say go for it! The benefits for our club would well and truly outweigh any negatives. :thumbsup
good post Tiga, l'm not in favor for Richmond to chase Brown but the club needs some mongrel & a player who instills fear into his opponant & Brown could be a advantage to the club in this sence as long as he is kicking 3-5 a week l could change my mind, what l do like about Johnathan Brown is that he dont shy away from a contest like Fiora :rollin
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seriously i think your all dreaming.
why would JONO Brown come to a club who has played in 2 finals series since 1982.
This guy is a triple brownlow medalist and we have a losing culture that must change before we can lure a class act like this guy.
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seriously i think your all dreaming.
why would JONO Brown come to a club who has played in 2 finals series since 1982.
This guy is a triple brownlow medalist and we have a losing culture that must change before we can lure a class act like this guy.
cause Everyone comes to Tigerland to clean the coffers out ;D :lol :rollin
oh by the way Daniel, you meant triple premiership player ;D cause he aint good enough to win a Brownlow medal & he certainly aint a fair footballer
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seriously i think your all dreaming.
why would JONO Brown come to a club who has played in 2 finals series since 1982.
This guy is a triple brownlow medalist and we have a losing culture that must change before we can lure a class act like this guy.
cause Everyone comes to Tigerland to clean the coffers out ;D :lol :rollin
oh by the way Daniel, you meant triple premiership player ;D cause he aint good enough to win a Brownlow medal & he certainly aint a fair footballer
yes thats what i meant of course.
a player like him would never come to our club until we start making regular finals...FACT!!
it was one of the main reasons why judd didnt want to come to Punt road, along with money of course.
Only dud players like Mcmahon come to the RFC, when they fear their career could be over if they dont come to Punt Road.
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seriously i think your all dreaming.
why would JONO Brown come to a club who has played in 2 finals series since 1982.
This guy is a triple brownlow medalist and we have a losing culture that must change before we can lure a class act like this guy.
cause Everyone comes to Tigerland to clean the coffers out ;D :lol :rollin
oh by the way Daniel, you meant triple premiership player ;D cause he aint good enough to win a Brownlow medal & he certainly aint a fair footballer
yes thats what i meant of course.
a player like him would never come to our club until we start making regular finals...FACT!!
it was one of the main reasons why judd didnt want to come to Punt road, along with money of course.
Only dud players like Mcmahon come to the RFC, when they fear their career could be over if they dont come to Punt Road.
:sleep
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it was one of the main reasons why judd didnt want to come to Punt road, along with money of course.
Did he tell you that or is that a guess on your behalf? I don't remember reading anywhere that he said this - just that he had chosen 4 preferred clubs and then he narrowed it down from that.
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it was one of the main reasons why judd didnt want to come to Punt road, along with money of course.
Did he tell you that or is that a guess on your behalf? I don't remember reading anywhere that he said this - just that he had chosen 4 preferred clubs and then he narrowed it down from that.
na mate its just a guess.
Its my opinion that until we start making finals regulary we will struggle to bring players like him to our club.
Outside of Browny our best is Mcmahon, luke weller and shane morrison.
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Matthews today on Jonathan Brown
Matthews was less keen to discuss the future of Lions superstar Jonathan Brown whose contract negotiations have stalled amidst rumours he wants to return to Victoria.
Matthews conceded there was work to be done between the Lions and their skipper and said every player needed to weigh up their future opportunities.
“If Browny and the club were exactly on the same page he probably would’ve signed by now.
“They’ve got a short window of opportunity so as players they should probably take due diligence about 'what are my options, what’s the club going to be prepared to [offer] and is there another club that is prepared to offer a whole lot more?'
“Once they know, then they can make a decision,” said a considered Matthews.
“We’re confident Browny can play for the Brisbane Lions next year.”
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=65162
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Caro still saying we're one of 3 clubs going to make a major play for Jonathan Brown.
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Struggle each week for Brown
Andrew Hamilton | August 12, 2008
LEIGH Matthews has praised Jonathan Brown's courage, revealing the weekly battle the Brisbane Lions' co-captain fights just to play. Brown's already heavily modified training regimen has been scrapped in the past month and he rarely does more than kicking practice once a week as the Lions try to ensure he can play out the season.
He endures prolonged ice bath sessions and spends hours on the physiotherapy and massage bench and in the hyperbaric chamber.
It is also understood he has three painkilling injections before he runs out on the ground.
The club is tight-lipped on the exact nature of Brown's problem, but Matthews said he was nowhere near full fitness.
"I can't remember the last time he was," Matthews said.
"He's showing enormous courage to get out there, Brownie. He has got a lot of things that he is coping with.
"Anyone who goes to training can see he just can't get out there. He is barely getting on the field week to week and it is difficult when you do that because you de-train a little bit."
Brown had a quiet day against Hawthorn in Launceston on Saturday, but his efforts this season have been exceptional.
His ability to cover the ground, accelerate and change direction has appeared to be greatly reduced.
It is no secret he has a wonky knee, but there is also a suggestion Brown aggravated a long-running back complaint in a collision with Essendon ruckman David Hille in Round 15.
He has kicked 63 goals, the fifth most in the competition, and can still pass the career-high 77 that earned him last year's Coleman Medal.
Matthews yesterday paid tribute to his performances and pondered just how good the triple premiership player could be if he was able to complete a season injury free.
"Just playing weekends and getting up in time for the following weekend makes it very tough to play anywhere near the level you are capable," Matthews said.
"It has been a bit normal for him. He will play all the games by the look of it and he played most of the games last year, but it is very rare he is able to train because his body does take a pounding."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24164925-19742,00.html
I hope we don't touch this guy, unless Matthews is just trying to scare off other teams.
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Caro still saying we're one of 3 clubs going to make a major play for Jonathan Brown.
Brown > Judd IMO
Give Lions our first 3 picks + McGaune
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Caro still saying we're one of 3 clubs going to make a major play for Jonathan Brown.
Brown > Judd IMO
Give Lions our first 3 picks + McGaune
na dont think i agree mate. Too injury prone.
i watch judd closely and he is an amazing footballer. It kills me to say but he is the best i have ever seen in my time.
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Caro still saying we're one of 3 clubs going to make a major play for Jonathan Brown.
Brown > Judd IMO
Give Lions our first 3 picks + McGaune
na dont think i agree mate. Too injury prone.
i watch judd closely and he is an amazing footballer. It kills me to say but he is the best i have ever seen in my time.
Agree, offering Brown a 5 year deal would be suicide. He'll be 32 by the time that contract expires.
I'd look at Kerr though only for the right deal.
But our main priority should be to draft Vickery with pick 6-9.
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Caro still saying we're one of 3 clubs going to make a major play for Jonathan Brown.
Brown > Judd IMO
Give Lions our first 3 picks + McGaune
na dont think i agree mate. Too injury prone.
i watch judd closely and he is an amazing footballer. It kills me to say but he is the best i have ever seen in my time.
didnt you ever see gary ablett snr play?
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Caro still saying we're one of 3 clubs going to make a major play for Jonathan Brown.
Brown > Judd IMO
Give Lions our first 3 picks + McGaune
na dont think i agree mate. Too injury prone.
i watch judd closely and he is an amazing footballer. It kills me to say but he is the best i have ever seen in my time.
didnt you ever see gary ablett snr play?
fair point. okay second only to g ablett snr
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Not at 5 years
But a nice 3 year deal and I'd look at it
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Brown was the CHF in 3 flags and has proved to be a very top shelf. IMO he is the most vauble player in the league. I would kill for him at Richmond. As good as Judd is to say he is that much better the Voss/PLugger/Carey/AAbleetx2/Hird etc. is going over the top abit.
If we want him you have to chase him hard. 3 year deal wont cut it.
He would be the perfect leadershiping and abilty player to plug the gaping hop in the middle of our list from 22 year olds to 28 year olds. He would be a middle ground from the Richo - Deledio generations.