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Title: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: one-eyed on April 07, 2008, 02:07:43 PM
Plough's comments on any changes...

The Tigers have almost a full list to choose from. With no excuses to draw on, it makes next Sunday's encounter with Fremantle a critical test.

"It is very important, they have got a home game, and they got their first win on the board and we haven't won for a couple of weeks now and no side in the competition wants to be sitting back on one win after four rounds, so it becomes increasingly important and we understand that," Wallace said.

He made four changes entering the Collingwood clash but warned he would consider dumping several players after a second poor performance.

"As you do every week you tell guys where they are at, and there were a couple of guys under pressure leading into the game to retain their spots. Some of them might be under more pressure."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23495304-19742,00.html
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: {X} on April 07, 2008, 02:13:21 PM
petticoat, tivendale, bowden, polak, johnston and simmonds should all be dropped

maybe save simmonds

but i can see just petticoat being suspended and maybe tiv or bowden eing droipped
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 07, 2008, 02:49:52 PM
petticoat, tivendale, bowden, polak, johnston and simmonds should all be dropped

maybe save simmonds

but i can see just petticoat being suspended and maybe tiv or bowden eing droipped

wallace is that pathetic he will drop tivendale, petts(suspended) and thats about it.

how about making a stand u tool and dropping players like tuck, bowden, johnson, brown or god for bid ur god child mcmahon. one or 2 should go they do not deserve a spot on this list.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: {X} on April 07, 2008, 03:54:49 PM
i bet if we played a team without richo, sugar, bowden, tuck, tivendale, petticoat we would be better off

save mcmahon  brown and  snake, and give them 1 more chance

i bet we would have a better and more competive and rewarding effort at subiaco

bring in connors, edwards, mguane, collins, casserley, jack and cleve

would even rather jon in the team over tiv!
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 07, 2008, 04:00:02 PM
JON is a brainless dud compared to Tiv   :thumbsup
while Tiv might save his spot Jon will never play for Richmond again he off to WA end of season
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: TFL on April 07, 2008, 05:37:33 PM
Why dont we try something different and play Richo at CHB.

Then play Sarge, Hughes and Jack as our main forwards, with Brown, Morton as the crumbing forwards. Petts will be out anyway.

There wasnt a huge range to choose from to promote in yesterday's game. Cleve and Jack dominated early and their kicking for goal was A grade.

We need to get a better setup up forward, it just isnt working.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Little Jackie on April 07, 2008, 05:40:06 PM
Would think playing Richo at CHB is a great idea, similar to what Carlton did with Whitnall.
At least Richo wouldnt have to put up with poor disposal :lol
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 07, 2008, 05:45:58 PM
yep like it. like it a lot.

Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: {X} on April 07, 2008, 06:00:55 PM
richo is no good in defence, has no idea about anything to do with field kicking, cant hit a target , let ALONE A BARN!

richo has 1 of 2 spots, the bench and come on as a pinch hitter, or on a wing where he can run as much as he wants and run into goals, where his strike rate is much better than set shots

if he played on a wing as a ruck roving type big man link option(just like big cox when he rucks for wce), then maybe he could re invent himself as a player

the other option is retire and make babies that can kick
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: TFL on April 07, 2008, 06:04:40 PM
I disagree with X in regards to Richo not being able to hit a target. He is actually not a bad kick when not shooting for goal. Thats my opinion anyway.

I do agree that he would be better suited playing on the wing or ruck rover style rather than in the backline.

We could do a lot worse.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 07, 2008, 06:15:51 PM
Outs
 Pettifer whether suspended, or not for reasons we all know too too well.
Nathan Brown needs a kick up the anus. A stint at Coburg to re invigorate the footy instincts especially placing the hands in the right place when going for a mark above the head under pressure and to maybe get a bit of case of leather poisoning. Will hopefully distract his mind from his thriving designer tees business.
Bowden "a senior player" if that is what he wants the outside world to perceive him as should not be as disinterested as he is at the moment. Perhaps his poor form is only temporary as an agenda on behalf of the players to give TW the chop. Nevertheless whatever he is doing on match day is not football he is merely taking space on the ground that could be filled by 10 seagulls.
Tivendale the way forward for this footy club is to play the kids. Can't have Terry say we are the youngest list when all he does is promote Hyde and Tivvers as part of his overhauling and overwhelming team changes. He's failed before he will fail again.

Ins

Riewoldt- Kids in form for Coburg. May or may not equate to goals for Richmond but the youngsters need confidence to be nurtured for long period of time in the seniors rather than be promoted one week then dropped the next. Nurture at top level for the rest of the year and get the boy match hardened at the top level.

Edwards lacking crumbers in the forward line with polish. Impressive last year has pace to burn knows where to find it and knows where the goals are. Ready made replacement for Brown.

Polo Plays hard and tough. We need that. Can't drop a bloke if he plays 30 mins the week before. Not fair on him nor the team. Play him for weeks on end. Kids like Polo are the future. Anyone remember Dreamtime at the G IN 06. The right nurturing and confidence will see that every week.

Rance- Being totally wasted at Coburg reserves. What is he doing there? Playing on guys who will never get to the elite level will only diminish your confidence and ability. What are we saving him for? Throw kids into the fray and they will have a steep learning curve which will harden them. Collingwood Hawks Sts Geelong Dogs have all done it and they have seen results, rather than coaching in a self preserving way to limit on field damage on the scoreboard and hopefully save your job.
Come on Terry do it.

Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 07, 2008, 07:03:05 PM
Rance- Being totally wasted at Coburg reserves. What is he doing there? Playing on guys who will never get to the elite level will only diminish your confidence and ability. What are we saving him for? Throw kids into the fray and they will have a steep learning curve which will harden them. Collingwood Hawks Sts Geelong Dogs have all done it and they have seen results, rather than coaching in a self preserving way to limit on field damage on the scoreboard and hopefully save your job.
Come on Terry do it.

good post HT74
something l'm very against with Richmond is they draft these kids & treat them like they never play hard football before,  where in fact most of them have played senior football before they are selected to the elite U18' TAC comp were they are recruited from to AFL ranks & for interstate recruits they have played in the WAFL, SANFL, ACT, QFL,& others
if they dont make the team for TAC U18 comp every week because there large squads or comming back from injuries or whatever,  they play senior football for thier normal football club.   These kids have had to play hard senior football & do it with ease most times dominating because of there elite training which l can tell you most are brought to direaching & vomiting from hard training (excuse me for mentioning but its true) & not mentioned alot & kept quite
The young men of TAC are big in body & height often 6' to like basketball height & are very fit & often multi sportsmen in cricket, Basketball, indoor sports.
Playing elite kids at lower levels only makes them damaged goods in my view after being drafted to AFL clubs.  the development at Richmond which is well below any other clubs in the league l beleive is the cause of under development of our players & the way they are introduced playing limited time sitting on the pine is hurting our football club severely when they are dropped back to Coburg & not given the chance to show what they can do in 30 minutes cause there pumped with nerves & sick with butterflies & sometimes as far back as Coburg reserves were Hartigan played his last days & l beleive damages them mentaly
many teams have blooded draft picks this year & they are cementing there spots after 3 rounds we have all seen the likes of Morton, Rioli & now Kreuzer + many others the list is long but we are playing ours at Coburg 2nds really stumps me
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: 1965 on April 07, 2008, 07:09:25 PM
Why dont we try something different and play Richo at CHB.

Then play Sarge, Hughes and Jack as our main forwards, with Brown, Morton as the crumbing forwards. Petts will be out anyway.

There wasnt a huge range to choose from to promote in yesterday's game. Cleve and Jack dominated early and their kicking for goal was A grade.

We need to get a better setup up forward, it just isnt working.

CHB for Coburg?
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 07, 2008, 07:27:21 PM
Connors should be another who should come under serious consideration.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: {X} on April 07, 2008, 08:21:20 PM
and casserly
and collins
and gus
and putt

all of them , we draft these kids to play . not to rot and become screwed up in a pathetic vfl system

now wallace told gaspar that he would not be selected if the kids equal him or better him in form.
why does not this apply for all other senior players

did gaspar sleep with mrs wallace or something????
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 07, 2008, 08:23:33 PM
Gas  would not touch a the crispy critter X hahaah  :rollin :lol get it crispy critter
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: {X} on April 07, 2008, 08:27:30 PM
lol
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: mightytiges on April 07, 2008, 09:23:02 PM
Out:  Petts (susp.), Tivs, Polak

In: Hughes, Polo, Riewoldt

Yep get Richo on a wing. Start Lids in the midfield.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: 1980 on April 07, 2008, 09:42:07 PM

Riewoldt can kick as many goals as he wants for Coburg, but he's lost at AFL level.

If Hughes gets a run, he'll develop as a AFL footballer. Riewoldt wont.

So save your knives for Richo. If he kicks a bag this week, you'll be falling over yourselves to tell the world what a superstar he is and how you hope he never retires.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 07, 2008, 09:48:07 PM
and casserly

Coming back from injury - so he is a NO

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and collins

Agree play him

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and gus

see above - coming back from injury

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and putt

Not ready.... if we were to play Putt and he didn't have a good game people would be jumping up and down saying wasted draft pick etc... let's give this kid time to develop
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: mightytiges on April 07, 2008, 10:03:37 PM
So save your knives for Richo. If he kicks a bag this week, you'll be falling over yourselves to tell the world what a superstar he is and how you hope he never retires.
I'm not blaming Richo (even though he did have a shocker on Sunday) for our lazy idiotic midfielders always going to him. They act as though the opposition defenders aren't there when they kick it. On Sunday I had a good view behind one play where a Tiger ran out of the middle 15m on his own and kicked what would've been a perfect flat pass to Richo on the lead. Problem was there were 3 Collingwood defenders in the way of the path of the ball before he even kicked it ::). Blind Freddy could see the ball would never get to Richo. Just sick of our mids using Richo as an easy out when they have the ball instead of being able to find the best freer option. Blame also our lazy half-forward flankers (hello Kayne) for not presenting into space nor providing pressure inside 50 to keep the ball in. We start every bounce with 5 or 6 forwards yet when the ball goes forward where are our flankers  ???.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: tigersalive on April 07, 2008, 10:06:01 PM
Out:  Petts (susp.), Tivs, Polak

In: Hughes, Polo, Riewoldt

Yep get Richo on a wing. Start Lids in the midfield.

And dont start Foley in the forward pocket.   :help
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Little Jackie on April 07, 2008, 10:12:28 PM
Out Wallace .In. Anyone with half a brain :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: TFL on April 07, 2008, 10:17:16 PM
I just finished watching the game as i was at Coburg and couldnt go.

My thoughts are play Richo at CHF but starting from the square and he should to work between the 50m arcs.

Lids to play in the middle from the start along with Foley, Tambo, Tuck, Sugar and Newman.

King on the wing

My opinion is that we really are struggling for a hit up target coming out of defence. Richo playing between the arcs can help this. Along with the Ruckman they need to work hard to provide a target for the rebounders to hit up.

Playing Richo High will allow Hughes, Brown, Morton and or Jack to play into space and mark on the lead.

We need a better structure up forward, there are far too many bombs into our fwd 50 which dont even look like resulting in a score.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: torch on April 07, 2008, 10:30:27 PM
Out (In)

Pettifer (Riewoldt) ... Tivendale (Hughes) ... Polak (Polo) ... McMahon (Edwards) ... White (McGuane)


Forward Line (which is the massive problem)

Morton, Hughes, Richardson (he handballs to a running player or kicks to his target man riewoldt)

Brown, Riewoldt, Edwards

Target Men: Cleve @ CHF and Jack @ FF

Jack, starts deep in the square and doesn't lead untill players are near the 50 metre line ...

Morton in front leading to move out with his opponent ...

Edwards ... on the pockets and keep out of Jack's way ... ball hits the ground ... thats when Shane comes to play ...

everyone up the ground's Target is Cleve ... if no good ... Matthew and Mitch ...

Brown plays small ... not a leading forward ...

we do this ... and we will be a lot better


Midfield ...

Deledio, Foley, Tambling, Jackson, Newman

that is it

Pattison and Simmonds

Johnson in a back pocket

and Tuck on the bench or at Coburg ...

so over Tuck and hasn't been himself since 2005 ... where the f*** has his long kicking gone ???

get rid of him or tell him to kick the football long and f***ing pick up a man





whole team ... you don't chase or tackle or put no pressure ... off ...
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Little Jackie on April 07, 2008, 10:45:23 PM
I just finished watching the game as i was at Coburg and couldnt go.

My thoughts are play Richo at CHF but starting from the square and he should to work between the 50m arcs.

Lids to play in the middle from the start along with Foley, Tambo, Tuck, Sugar and Newman.

King on the wing

My opinion is that we really are struggling for a hit up target coming out of defence. Richo playing between the arcs can help this. Along with the Ruckman they need to work hard to provide a target for the rebounders to hit up.

Playing Richo High will allow Hughes, Brown, Morton and or Jack to play into space and mark on the lead.

We need a better structure up forward, there are far too many bombs into our fwd 50 which dont even look like resulting in a score.


Might have a job for you next year :shh
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: tigersalive on April 07, 2008, 10:53:22 PM
I just finished watching the game as i was at Coburg and couldnt go.

My thoughts are play Richo at CHF but starting from the square and he should to work between the 50m arcs.

Lids to play in the middle from the start along with Foley, Tambo, Tuck, Sugar and Newman.

King on the wing

My opinion is that we really are struggling for a hit up target coming out of defence. Richo playing between the arcs can help this. Along with the Ruckman they need to work hard to provide a target for the rebounders to hit up.

Playing Richo High will allow Hughes, Brown, Morton and or Jack to play into space and mark on the lead.

We need a better structure up forward, there are far too many bombs into our fwd 50 which dont even look like resulting in a score.


Couldnt have written it better myself.  :clapping
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: 1980 on April 07, 2008, 11:11:54 PM
So save your knives for Richo. If he kicks a bag this week, you'll be falling over yourselves to tell the world what a superstar he is and how you hope he never retires.
I'm not blaming Richo (even though he did have a shocker on Sunday) for our lazy idiotic midfielders always going to him. They act as though the opposition defenders aren't there when they kick it. On Sunday I had a good view behind one play where a Tiger ran out of the middle 15m on his own and kicked what would've been a perfect flat pass to Richo on the lead. Problem was there were 3 Collingwood defenders in the way of the path of the ball before he even kicked it ::). Blind Freddy could see the ball would never get to Richo. Just sick of our mids using Richo as an easy out when they have the ball instead of being able to find the best freer option. Blame also our lazy half-forward flankers (hello Kayne) for not presenting into space nor providing pressure inside 50 to keep the ball in. We start every bounce with 5 or 6 forwards yet when the ball goes forward where are our flankers  ???.

If every other forward we have ran as hard and presented as much as Richo, we may lick to him less. Not his fault for wanting the ball. Lids cant be bothered most of the time. Browny does but only when it suits him.

Problem is not Richo, its our ball movement. We dont get the ball into our 50 quickly enough and a hard running team (Pies, Roos) man up.

We fall down at HB. We need to move the ball quicker from there. We mess around, dont know what to do, handball backwards blah blah.

Too many team problems to lay at the foot of one of our few match winners

Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: cub on April 07, 2008, 11:36:23 PM
Out Wallace .In. Anyone with half a brain :thumbsup

Said I wouldn't comment until after rnd 10 - Hope that's not to late  :shh
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Little Jackie on April 08, 2008, 01:11:38 AM
Out Wallace .In. Anyone with half a brain :thumbsup

Said I wouldn't comment until after rnd 10 - Hope that's not to late  :shh

Round 12 the door will slam :shh
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: {X} on April 08, 2008, 07:48:02 AM
what do u know jack?

and wp, about putt, if he has a bad game, u dont throw the knives at him, u educate and nurture him and show him where he can improve

last yr, patto ok he had a bit more experience, but he was thrown in the deep end and intitally was dreadfull, but he quickly learned and adapted, putt and all our kids will be the same

wallace take risks!
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: tigersalive on April 08, 2008, 08:17:42 AM
Out Wallace .In. Anyone with half a brain :thumbsup

Said I wouldn't comment until after rnd 10 - Hope that's not to late  :shh

Round 12 the door will slam :shh

With who taking over then?

If we win less than 5 games I cant see him going on AT ALL but I also dont see the value in kicking him out mid-season.  Let him finish off the year and then start fresh with a new coach.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: wayne again on April 08, 2008, 02:30:21 PM
 This is what needs to be done in my opinion.

 OUT until as long as it takes. ( until they show skill desire and passion to win. )

 Brown Tuck Tiv Johston Pettifer Polak Bowden Maybe even Richo (skills based only.)

 IN week after week until above show anything slightly encouraging worthy of a position.

 INS

Riewolt Edwards Rance Connors White Casserly Putt Hughes any others i may have missed And Newman Captain.

I would prefer to what us loose games with our new young guns and finish last if thats what has to happens.I am sick of watching  the more senior players loose games as they did in 2007.

Patto was thrown in the deep end in 2007 and i think he has come out the otherside a verry good young player lets see what the other young kids can do.

I also believe that Wallace may take the heat off himself by doing this, explaining how young his list is.  He has changed our list now let them play.  :banghead :gotigers



Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 08, 2008, 02:55:39 PM
Yeah lets play Graham and Putt.

That'll work.

Fools.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: {X} on April 08, 2008, 06:12:02 PM
ur the fool
it will fast track their development.  they wont play any worse than the pathetic senior group we have
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Little Jackie on April 08, 2008, 08:13:52 PM
Out Wallace .In. Anyone with half a brain :thumbsup

Said I wouldn't comment until after rnd 10 - Hope that's not to late  :shh

Round 12 the door will slam :shh

With who taking over then?

If we win less than 5 games I cant see him going on AT ALL but I also dont see the value in kicking him out mid-season.  Let him finish off the year and then start fresh with a new coach.

I see great merit in sacking mid season.
Hopefully some winning spirit can be then introduced and we can finish the season on a good note
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Ramps on April 08, 2008, 08:31:27 PM
Theres no point playing kids like Rance in the coburg 2s.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 08, 2008, 08:35:25 PM
Theres no point playing kids like Rance in the coburg 2s.

yes yes and yes.
what a waste of time. wallace and his decisions have run this list to the state its in now.

he seems to look after his own interests instead of playing the kids.

cant wait to see the back of him
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Ramps on April 08, 2008, 08:44:41 PM
the club needs to find specific match ups down back for young defenders like Rance in AFL senior action, at some stage you gotta play the kids in the big action to see if they can play. the coburg 2s fair dinkum, those boys are probably drinking beers and eating pies during the course of the game.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 08, 2008, 09:22:45 PM
and wp, about putt, if he has a bad game, u dont throw the knives at him, u educate and nurture him and show him where he can improve

I am not talking about the coaches X - I was referring to the supporters.

We expect so much from our younger players that we want them to be world beaters at 18. I don't want to see the kid play a game, struggle and then see knives come out after 1 or 2 games
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: {X} on April 08, 2008, 09:25:57 PM
sorry fair enough wp

well tiger supporters can be as dumb as some of their players.

cant beleive all the poo tambling is getting from tiger fans, he needs our support not bashing.

speaking for myself, i would not be upset if we played the kids and lost week in week out as long as they are having a dip.

we cant do any worse than last yr, so why persist with a formular of proven failures

all i expect from the kids is to have a dip and learn
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 08, 2008, 09:30:52 PM

speaking for myself, i would not be upset if we played the kids and lost week in week out as long as they are having a dip.

we cant do any worse than last yr, so why persist with a formular of proven failures

all i expect from the kids is to have a dip and learn

Agree with that 100%

I'd love to see more kids play but I am mindful of some of them not being ready.

I watched Putt in VFL seniors praccy match the other week, he played in the ruck and against the bigger body player he was pushed out of the contest to easily.

I would hope Rance gets an opportunity to play Coburg seniors soon. I have no doubt he will play senior AFL footy this year just needs to match fit
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: {X} on April 08, 2008, 09:33:58 PM
agree with rance, his big enough , better developed than most of our mature player, as soon as he is match fit he should be in
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 08, 2008, 09:46:43 PM
Play the kids and play them for most of the game.
Nuture the lids and help the kids learn so that they become mature footballers.
Problem with our kids is they have no one of any substance to learn from down at Tigerland as our senior core are too self indulgent in themselves hence our kids always develop slower than kids from other clubs.
Is it the recruiting? No
Is it the kids and their attitude? Don't think so either
I just feel the kids are not entrusted with the responsibilities at this level as much as they should be by the coaching staff to self preserve the damage on the scoreboard with bigger bodies of seasoned campaigners on match day as well as giving those in charge the opportunity to provide a positive to the us that the kids are up and coming yet they never receive a game or they get one when it does not count for the club nor for the kid. No benefit for anybody.
Senior core has failed time and time again and has taken us nowhere except given us a few memorable moments in the past that are all too infrequent now.


Terry Play the Kids. Play the Kids. Play the Kids. Play the Kids. Play the Kids. :pray
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: 3121 on April 08, 2008, 09:48:49 PM
Theres no point playing kids like Rance in the coburg 2s.

yes yes and yes.
what a waste of time.


That's your opinion.  It's beneficial to develop our youngster physically as well as mentally.  The club won't devuldge whether Rance has issues, will they?  Polo is a perfect example of 'earning' his position.  I don't need to go into a long winded explanation on where he started and where he finished. ;)  As long as we don't have a long list of injuries our player need to be developed according to a plan, instead of being fast tracked into the Richmond side and they play poorly and then kids get the crap bagged out of them on the forums because we think they are not good enough.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: {X} on April 08, 2008, 09:55:46 PM
what really did polo do that was wrong

just color his hair ffs

if thats the case we should have dropped deledio 10 times overm, the introvert has np personality it seems and copies all and sundry to discover himself. soory lids, but jump out of ur shell and take the game on

so polo had /has attitude, so what, im glad he has, likewise connors, jack and king

they are our only extaverts we have, bloody pathetic and terry was pathetic for dropping polo cos he hated his spotted hair, well i bet all the players hate terrys leathering neck

as soon as we get caharacters with attitude, terry screws them
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 08, 2008, 10:08:56 PM
id rather play bowden on one leg than JON.

come on this guy is a absoloute dud. this as been our worst decision since choosing fiora over pavlich
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: one-eyed on April 09, 2008, 02:58:27 AM
According to the Herald-Sun Jack Riewoldt is set to win a recall

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23509470-19742,00.html
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: cub on April 09, 2008, 03:19:52 AM
If he does, he is a forward and must play and stay forward - I am starting to wonder if some understand these things. ???
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Mr Magic on April 09, 2008, 09:05:56 AM
B:     King Thursfield Moore
HB: Bowden Schulz Tambling
C:  Newman Johnson White
HF: Riewoldt Pattison Morton
FF: Edwards Richardson Brown

R: Simmonds Deledio Foley

IC: Polo McMahon Polak McGuane

Em: Jackson, Hughes, Connors

Out:
Tuck - Terrible the past 2 weeks. Does he follow the gameplan?
Petiffer - Suspended but would have been dropped.
Tivendale - Never to be seen again
Jackson - Not up to it unfortunately.

In:
Polo - Shouldn't have been dropped. Good form for Coburg.
Riewoldt - Deserves his chance needs to be persevered with.
McGuane - Adds flexibility
Edwards - Got to get this talented youngster in the lineup.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: wayne again on April 09, 2008, 09:32:58 AM
 
OUT/  IN

 Tiv / F Bourke
 Pettifer / K Bartlett
 Richardson / M Roach
 Tuck /  J Dyer
 Polak / J Jess.

 We would win by 10 goals.  :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :whistle
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: 1965 on April 09, 2008, 09:47:24 AM

OUT/  IN

 Tiv / F Bourke
 Pettifer / K Bartlett
 Richardson / M Roach
 Tuck /  J Dyer
 Polak / J Jess.

 We would win by 10 goals.  :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :whistle


swap Royce Hart for Roach and I'm with you.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 09, 2008, 10:00:59 AM
OUT = WALLACE

IN = SHEEDY
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: mightytiges on April 09, 2008, 04:20:03 PM

OUT/  IN

 Tiv / F Bourke
 Pettifer / K Bartlett
 Richardson / M Roach
 Tuck /  J Dyer
 Polak / J Jess.

 We would win by 10 goals.  :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :whistle

Tuck had more handballs in the first 10 minutes last week than KB did in his whole 18 year career lol.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Little Jackie on April 09, 2008, 04:26:25 PM

OUT/  IN

 Tiv / F Bourke
 Pettifer / K Bartlett
 Richardson / M Roach
 Tuck /  J Dyer
 Polak / J Jess.

 We would win by 10 goals.  :lol :lol :lol :lol :rollin :rollin :whistle

Tuck had more handballs in the first 10 minutes last week than KB did in his whole 18 year career lol.

Coaches fault as Shanes first option used to be kick as first option.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: mightytiges on April 09, 2008, 04:28:17 PM
B:     King Thursfield Moore
HB: Bowden Schulz Tambling
C:  Newman Johnson White
HF: Riewoldt Pattison Morton
FF: Edwards Richardson Brown

R: Simmonds Deledio Foley

IC: Polo McMahon Polak McGuane

Em: Jackson, Hughes, Connors

Out:
Tuck - Terrible the past 2 weeks. Does he follow the gameplan?
Petiffer - Suspended but would have been dropped.
Tivendale - Never to be seen again
Jackson - Not up to it unfortunately.

In:
Polo - Shouldn't have been dropped. Good form for Coburg.
Riewoldt - Deserves his chance needs to be persevered with.
McGuane - Adds flexibility
Edwards - Got to get this talented youngster in the lineup.

Not disagreeing Magic (I think Tuck will hold his place though) but you would keep Joel in?

I'd like some more pace in our forward line too to go with Edwards. Add some defensive pressure to keep the ball inside 50 when it hits the ground.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: mightytiges on April 09, 2008, 04:31:22 PM
Coaches fault as Shanes first option used to be kick as first option.
That's true Jack but his kicking is hardly a strong part of his game either.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: wayne again on April 09, 2008, 04:33:06 PM
Tuck had more handballs in the first 10 minutes last week than KB did in his whole 18 year career

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :clapping
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Little Jackie on April 09, 2008, 04:41:44 PM
Coaches fault as Shanes first option used to be kick as first option.
That's true Jack but his kicking is hardly a strong part of his game either.

Can tell you the coach has been in his ear :banghead
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: mightytiges on April 09, 2008, 05:09:52 PM
Coaches fault as Shanes first option used to be kick as first option.
That's true Jack but his kicking is hardly a strong part of his game either.

Can tell you the coach has been in his ear :banghead
He went overboard with the handball on Sunday but he was found out in 2006 just bombing it long like he did in 2005 when he walked in and surprised opposition sides. He needed to adjust but there has to be a balance. It would help too if our forwards spread properly so when they line up on one side of the forward line they leave the space open and not all lead to the one spot like seagulls on a chip. Funny how our Coburg boys understand this more than our senior players.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: The Rising of Phoenix on April 09, 2008, 05:13:20 PM
Coaches fault as Shanes first option used to be kick as first option.
That's true Jack but his kicking is hardly a strong part of his game either.

Can tell you the coach has been in his ear :banghead
He went overboard with the handball on Sunday but he was found out in 2006 just bombing it long like he did in 2005 when he walked in and surprised opposition sides. He needed to adjust but there has to be a balance. It would help too if our forwards spread properly so when they line up on one side of the forward line they leave the space open and not all lead to the one spot like seagulls on a chip. Funny how our Coburg boys understand this more than our senior players.

I agree to this wholeheartedly!  :bow  :cheers  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Mr Magic on April 10, 2008, 09:38:44 AM
Not disagreeing Magic (I think Tuck will hold his place though) but you would keep Joel in?

If Joel has another bad game then I'd consider it but there's a few I'd drop before him.
I thought the Medhurst matchup was v poor last week. Joel plays taller than that.
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 10, 2008, 02:37:11 PM
Not disagreeing Magic (I think Tuck will hold his place though) but you would keep Joel in?

If Joel has another bad game then I'd consider it but there's a few I'd drop before him.
I thought the Medhurst matchup was v poor last week. Joel plays taller than that.

agreed 100% bowden vrs medhurst. king vrs shannon grant.

notice a trend?? bowden is playing poor but on pavlich he will do better than most of the othersd.

one more bad game and yes drop him but this week id drop johnson b4 him to be honest..
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: Tigermonk on April 10, 2008, 02:48:54 PM
Thursfield is the key matchup for Pavlich & should hold him to at least 2 goals cause the lad is playing well
its finger biting Farmer  ;D we need to tag or knock the little black sucker out  :thumbsup dirty prick he is,  l hope Kingy gives him some black eyes  ;D  :lol & knocks his whitey teeth out just for measure,  if l was coach they would be my instructions to dump him hard cause he will do it to his opponant at any chance he will take you out, Tuck & Johnson on the Carr dudes & Jackson to take Black & that will free up our midfielders The Dangerous McPharlin needs to be matchup good his a very good player & Tarrant well you can put anyone on him cause he wont hurt us  :lol
Title: Re: Changes for Freo game?
Post by: TFL on April 13, 2008, 09:24:42 PM
I just finished watching the game as i was at Coburg and couldnt go.

My thoughts are play Richo at CHF but starting from the square and he should to work between the 50m arcs.

Lids to play in the middle from the start along with Foley, Tambo, Tuck, Sugar and Newman.

King on the wing

My opinion is that we really are struggling for a hit up target coming out of defence. Richo playing between the arcs can help this. Along with the Ruckman they need to work hard to provide a target for the rebounders to hit up.

Playing Richo High will allow Hughes, Brown, Morton and or Jack to play into space and mark on the lead.

We need a better structure up forward, there are far too many bombs into our fwd 50 which dont even look like resulting in a score.


Wasnt far off the mark there!!!!

Richo worked well around the ground and he is so hard to beat overhead when is running back towards goals.