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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 08, 2008, 05:58:10 PM
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VFL Round 3
Coburg Tigers vs North Ballarat
Saturday 12th April @ ABD Group Stadium (Coburg City Oval)
Ressies: 11.10 AM
Seniors: 2:00 PM
Note: No radio or tv broadcast
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But score updates from me ;D
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Coburg side for this week
B Carnell Silvester Connors
HB Oakley-Nicholls McGuane Robertson
C Tivendale Polo White
HF Collins Morton Jackson
F Riewoldt Hughes Edwards
R Cartledge N. Caruso Shelton
Int Trajkovski Liddle Carrick
Farrelly Gazzo Rance
Stewart Rayson Morris
Horne F. Caruso Vasilevski
http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&sID=54560&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=5297452§ionID=54560
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Hip hip hooray - Rance is in the Coburg firsts :thumbsup
See Polo and Cleve are named. Perhaps their injuries aren't that serious.
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Coburg side for this week
B Carnell Silvester Connors
HB Oakley-Nicholls McGuane Robertson
C Tivendale Polo White
HF Collins Morton Jackson
F Riewoldt Hughes Edwards
R Cartledge N. Caruso Shelton
Int Trajkovski Liddle Carrick
Farrelly Gazzo Rance
Stewart Rayson Morris
Horne F. Caruso Vasilevski
http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-118-0-0-0&sID=54560&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=5297452§ionID=54560
Casserly?
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Casserly?
Possibly Coburg Ressies coming back from injury
Well we know who's out
B Carnell Silvester Connors
HB Oakley-Nicholls ???Bowden Robertson
C Tivendale Polo White
HF Collins ??? ???
F ??? Hughes ???
R Cartledge N. Caruso Shelton
Int Trajkovski Liddle Carrick
Farrelly Gazzo Rance
Stewart Rayson Morris
Horne F. Caruso Vasilevski
Great chance for Rance to debut :clapping
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Wishful thinking but with so many spots open in the Coburg forward line with no Jack or Morton why not try Joel there with Fortunato and Gazzo at Cleve's feet and play Rance at CHB.
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For those interested here is the Reserves line up
B Vasilevski Gourdis Keogh
HB Rance Riddle Farrelly
C Corr Huy Clingan
HF Lynch Putt Clifton
F Collard Currie Dulic
R Foster Simpson Carrick
Int Cotchin Groves Casserly
Jones Cattapan Hopkins
Bramich
I believe that Rance will play seniors
I am looking forward to seeing Trent have a run around at Coburg tomorrow
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I believe that Rance will play seniors
Cheers for that TFL :thumbsup. Hopefully Cotch's hammy is fine.
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I believe that Rance will play seniors
Cheers for that TFL :thumbsup. Hopefully Cotch's hammy is fine.
ABout time. We protect our players too much.
There is a fine line between too hard and too soft but no <30 draft pick should play VFL ressies unless they have some other issue.
About time. :scream
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anybody have a score update for the reserves and how is gourdis going?
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If the Coburg ressies side really has Rance, Gourdis, Putt and Casserley as reported all playing today that is ridiculous.
I can understand Cotch and Collard being in there but not those 4.
How about some reward for Rance and Putts good form at the very least.
I hope sauce is wrong. :scream :scream :scream
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Cotch = class
Collard, Cass, Gourdis, Putt all playing
Coburg 2.11-23
N.Ball 3.2-20
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Cotch = class
Collard, Cass, Gourdis, Putt all playing
Coburg 2.11-23
N.Ball 3.2-20
No Rance OE? Maybe he will play seniors. :clapping
2.11 ;D Blowing a gale I'd imagine, keeping North Ballarat in the game it looks.
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any further updates
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No Rance OE? Maybe he will play seniors. :clapping
No Rance in the ressies.
I've got a new phone and it's doing something stupid :scream so I'll try to get a further update as soon as I can.
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Ressies by 70 pts
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Can we get some details on how Cotchin went and the other RFC boys as well in the C2s.
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2008 VFL Reserves
Coburg 2.11 8.12 12.16 22.17-149
North Ballarat 3.2 8.3 9.3 11.7-73
GOALS: Collard 4 Lynch 4 Currie 3 Casserly 2 Dulic 2 Hopkins Simpson Cattapan Cotchin Huy Carrick Putt
BEST: Clingan Casserly Foster Huy Lynch Carrick
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10 goal last quarter- good effort from them.
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QT
Coburg 6.3-39
Nth Ball 4.4-28
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Can we get some details on how Cotchin went and the other RFC boys as well in the C2s.
From WP :cheers
Cotchin only played the first half. Class.
Cass and Putt very good.
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WP's best for Coburg seniors that quarter
Joel, Tivs and both caruso brothers
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Cleve kicking straight today :thumbsup. Has 2 goals.
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Make that 3 for Cleve.
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65 to 32 Coburg's way
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Is Joel playing?
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Is Joel playing?
Yep. In WP's bests so far.
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HT
Coburg 6.3 10.5-65
Nth Ball 4.4 6.8-44
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Joel is playing across HB.
Bests: Nat Caruso (BOG). Cleve, Cartledge, Collins, Horne.
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Cartledge in the best again, looking like a good pick up as a backup ruckman.
:shh
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Another to Cleve. His 4th.
73 to 50
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Jack there watching and talking to Geoff Raines
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Jack there watching and talking to Geoff Raines
Jack R?
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Yep Riewoldt
76 to 59
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Yep Riewoldt
76 to 59
Why isnt he in Perth??! :scream :scream :scream
Next question would be is Connors or White not playing?
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3QT
Coburg 6.3 10.5 11.11-77
Nth Ball 4.4 6.8 8.12-60
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and why isn't Jack playing for coburg?
???
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Jack's meant to be in Richmond side in Perth 1965.
Why isnt he in Perth??! :scream :scream :scream
I didn't think of that tigersalive. Maybe I got my wires crossed. I'll check again with WP to be sure.
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Jack's meant to be in Richmond side in Perth 1965.
Why isnt he in Perth??! :scream :scream :scream
I didn't think of that tigersalive. Maybe I got my wires crossed. I'll check again with WP to be sure.
Maybe he meant "our" Jack. :shh ;D
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Is Rance playing in seniors? And if so hows he going so far? Anyone know
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It's not Riewoldt (Phew!). Sorry for the scare - wires crossed :rollin.
Connors is playing but White is not. Whitey must be the emergency they flew over to Perth with the 22.
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Conners is in Perth? He was on the news last night walking through the airport terminal next to big Richo.
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Just passing on the updates TT.
Down a point :(.
WP will reply back when the game is finished. Not long to go.
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Lost by 1 point :(. Goal after the siren.
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2008 VFL Seniors
Coburg 6.3 10.5 11.11 13.13 (91)
North Ballarat 4.4 6.8 8.12 13.14 (92)
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Cleve kicked 4
Rance got better as the game went.
Bests? Collins was very good. Joel and Polo v.good in the last.
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GOALS: Hughes 4 Connors 3 Caruso 2 Collins 2 Polo Gazzo
BEST: Hughes Caruso Bowden Tivendale Carnell Oakley-Nicholls
https://reg.sportingpulse.com/olr_v3/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=8&pg=1&a=MR_
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GOALS: Hughes 4 Connors 3 Caruso 2 Collins 2 Polo Gazzo
BEST: Hughes Caruso Bowden Tivendale Carnell Oakley-Nicholls
https://reg.sportingpulse.com/olr_v3/rpt_progressive.cgi?aID=8&pg=1&a=MR_
JON the man machine.
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Two weeks running the Burgers have coughed up a decent lead. They should be 3-zip :-\.
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BEST: Hughes Caruso Bowden Tivendale Carnell Oakley-Nicholls
WP reckons this is a fair call. Just likes the way Collins plays - classy. Rance looks very good too.
It was a very disappointing last quarter.
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An encouraging :clapping for JON
Good to see him get among the best :thumbsup
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An encouraging :clapping for JON
Good to see him get among the best :thumbsup
I actually went , JON is a shocker, the amount of mistakes he makes is nearly unbeleivable. He would of at least 10 turnovers to his name.
Would think that Connors is a walk up start next week. Hughes as well, needs to be played each week at Richmond, not at Coburg :banghead
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An encouraging :clapping for JON
Good to see him get among the best :thumbsup
I actually went , JON is a shocker, the amount of mistakes he makes is nearly unbeleivable. He would of at least 10 turnovers to his name.
Would think that Connors is a walk up start next week. Hughes as well, needs to be played each week at Richmond, not at Coburg :banghead
Hughes looks like a fish out of water every time he plays in the ones. I reckon he should play in the 2s until he develops more confidence. Give him another year down there I reckon.
I didn't see JON, just going on the best players that were posted. He must have done something right to get a mention. Sad to see how people just bag the crap out of him every time
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Moi, you could kick better than JON. Some of the mistakes were quiet unbeleivable , to his credit though, he did have a crack which is something, he will never make it at AFL level as his skills are not up to an acceptable standard.
I really like Connors, wasnt named in the best, but my mail is he will play next week ;)
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Moi, you could kick better than JON. Some of the mistakes were quiet unbeleivable , to his credit though, he did have a crack which is something, he will never make it at AFL level as his skills are not up to an acceptable standard.
I really like Connors, wasnt named in the best, but my mail is he will play next week ;)
Connors is my great white hope, so hope he plays soon.
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Moi, you could kick better than JON. Some of the mistakes were quiet unbeleivable , to his credit though, he did have a crack which is something, he will never make it at AFL level as his skills are not up to an acceptable standard.
I really like Connors, wasnt named in the best, but my mail is he will play next week ;)
Connors is my great white hope, so hope he plays soon.
Is playing next week ;)
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I went too. JON did a few really good things, but for each of those he would have made 2 MAJOR errors that really hurt. Nowhere near the best players.
Collins has me all excited. When this kid has more muscle and motor, he will be good. Just moves well and good skills and decision making. Hughes impressed me, the difference in work ethic from last year to now is immense. Just needs to learn to crash a pack a bit better when he's not in a position to mark. Connors quality but no fitness. Rance good signs as he worked into the game more and more as it went on
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I went too. JON did a few really good things, but for each of those he would have made 2 MAJOR errors that really hurt. Nowhere near the best players.
Collins has me all excited. When this kid has more muscle and motor, he will be good. Just moves well and good skills and decision making. Hughes impressed me, the difference in work ethic from last year to now is immense. Just needs to learn to crash a pack a bit better when he's not in a position to mark. Connors quality but no fitness. Rance good signs as he worked into the game more and more as it went on
Tanks Jezza Re your comments JON, thank god there are supporters on this site that have an idea. :thumbsup
Rance looks good, good size as well, moves like he knows where to be
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Spot on the mark Jezza :thumbsup
Rancey worked into the game well and hopefully he gets a chance to cement himself in the Seniors.
Cotchin got through well and looks all class.
Casserly was very good in the two's and kicked two huge goals. Should play seniors next week.
Putty continues to impress and is a very good player. Dave Gourdis was very solid down back and played his best game for the year. He appeared to be more comfortable down back today and hopefully it wasnt a one off. Collard kicked 4 goals and was solid, has so much talent but just needs to improve fitness. I hope we can get him right coz he will be a great pick up.
The Reserves won by aroudn 40 pts roughly, making it 2 from 2.
Will be back later, if you have any questions fire away.
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2 weeks in a row died out in 2nd half .Boys must have a fittness problem????
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Only saw the last 1/4 of the ressies and Putt was on the bench quite a bit of that. Gourdis did a few good things though playing at full back. Casserley's goal running from half back to the 50 and slotting it was pure quality. Only saw Collard get 1 touch as well. If he could get into it a bit more he could be that crumbing forward we seem to need so badly at the moment.
For Coburg Chris Stewart is a good size and was being used mainly as a backup ruckman. Might be some potential there (another Nth Heidelburg player).
Silvestor started well but had a bit of a JON game and gave away a couple of very cheap goals with mistakes that make you just whack yourself in the head. Can't really see the Cat ever getting there at AFL level.
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sylvester is a joke and mever should have been rookied
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Bit harsh X, while i agree with Jezza that Cat didnt play a great game today. He has been very solid down back in the first two games.
He wasnt beaten badly today just didnt give his usual drive from the backline.
Vasilevski played a great game today in the One's.
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Was Vasilevski wearing 33?
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seen enough of him to suggest he is crap
last yr for coburg he let th eteam in every big game and he showed v the saints in the nab cup that he is worse than jon
reality is the cat is crap
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Was Vasilevski wearing 33?
that's the one Jezza, was very clean again with his disposal today.
Joey Gazzo was also pretty good in the forward line.
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that's the one Jezza, was very clean again with his disposal today.
Joey Gazzo was also pretty good in the forward line.
Yeah, saw 33 do quite a few good things.
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Thanks for the reports everyone :cheers.
Just a couple of questions for those that went.
How was Connors' fitness given he most most of the preseason?
How was Joel's attitude? Was he accountable?
Who would be in line for promotion IYO next week?
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We travelled end to end following the coburg goals where Connors spent most of his time.
Worked hard presented/contested well and will definitely be a handy aquisition to the senior team after a few more games.
Was huffing and puffing a bit after his contests, so needs a few more weeks imo.
Bowden got plenty his attitude seemed fine and he was accountable but he did lairise a bit too much for my liking, seemed to treat the opposition with a bit of contempt if you like. but that's joel isn't it ::)
Must mention JON for those that wonder, seemed to get plenty of the footy but just doesn't have the confidence to take the right option when he gets it. if he learns to do this his disposal is good when he takes the first option, it is when he "thinks" that he gets stuck or stuffs up his disposal.
One passage stood out in my mind he got the ball in the clear and his first instinct was to look sideways, get this reflex habit out of the boy and we may just see something.
One thing I did like listening to Rawlings 'first time I have listened to him yesterday' and was quite impressed. no nonsense but no ranting and raving.
He was pretty peeed off at 3 qtr time with Coburg fing around with the ball when they got it and not looking for options up the ground.
This tells me at least at this level that the coaching staff are trying to weed out this indirect indecisiveness of the team.
The Ballarat boys were having a fine old time coming off laughing at how we had done this 2 weeks in a row now.
Think it is fitness and when we get that up, believe me we will be very hard to go past for the flag. :gotigers
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Connors did well and took some nice marks, i dare say he was played up forward due to the loss of Jack.
He was puffing at times but i would think he wouldnt be far away from Seniors, he just needs to play.
Polo may be a chance depending on todays game.
As for Joel, he did well showed a good attitude but didnt dominate in my opinion. Not sure what the point of only playing him for one week is, i say let him play for Coburg again next week and get him to really dominate a game. I would like to see him played on the ball.
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Does anybody know if Rhett Jordon (no 64 I think) played in the reserves?
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Roosters pip Tigers after siren
Carley Jellett | April 13, 2008 | The Age
NORTH Ballarat remains undefeated after turning around a six-goal deficit early in the match to snatch a one-point win after the siren against the Coburg Tigers at ABD Group Oval.
The come-from-behind win was sealed by Roosters big man Orren Stephenson and left Coburg with its second loss from a winnable position this season. Last week the Tigers gave up a 41-point three-quarter-time lead to lose to the Northern Bullants by three points. Coach Jade Rawlings said Coburg didn't do enough to seal the match when it had the opportunity yesterday.
"When you get beaten after the siren it's always disappointing, but we gave them a chance to get back in the game," Rawlings said, adding the fade-outs were a concern but the losses had been due to poor decision making, not fitness.
"I don't think it is fitness. It's a lack of composure at times and players' decision making. People are obviously going to look at the factors of the last two weeks and think it's fitness, (but) we couldn't be more pleased with our conditioning over summer."
Despite the loss, Rawlings drew on positives after the match. "We've played 12 quarters and I reckon we've played 9½ good ones," he said.
"There's plenty of positives, we are playing a reasonable style, the guys are having a go but we just aren't able to finish our good work."
Dropped Richmond defender Joel Bowden put in an impressive performance as did Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls and Cleve Hughes.
Rawlings said he expected Bowden to return to the Richmond side soon. "Joel was good. He's always got that ability to be able to find the footy, he had it, I think, 37 times today, so there was no problem there. He was solid down back and he went forward and was able to contribute to us kicking a couple of goals late as well.
"You wouldn't imagine he'd be spending too much time with us, depends how the senior side go."
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/roosters-pip-tigers-after-siren/2008/04/12/1207856925982.html
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Rhett Jordan didnt get a game again this week, unless there are some injuries he probably wont get much of a go at Coburg
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Rhett Jordan didnt get a game again this week, unless there are some injuries he probably wont get much of a go at Coburg
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It was a very disappointing final quarter.
Would think Joel would be in the mix, ditto Connors and Hughes. Personally I'd like to see Collins get a game. With Cleve though I am not sure at the moment if we can afford to have Polak, Reiwoldt and sometimes Richo or Schulz all in the forward line - would appear a bit too top heavy
It will interesting next week as Coburg are up against Port Melbourne which means the 12/10 (only 12 RFC boys can play) applies. Having said that against Nth Ballarat the split was 11/11
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Coburg site's Match Report Vs. North Ballarat Round 3 2008
coburgtigers.com.au
By Glenn Robertson.
Coburg returned to ABD Stadium on Saturday this week to take on North Ballarat. The Burgers team were strengthened by Richmond star Joel Bowden, however key forward Jack Riewoldt was elevated into the Richmond side.
A huge crowd attended in what is sure to be one of the most exciting games for the season. It was also great to see so many sponsors at the ground supporting the Burger side.
For the third week in a row the Burgers got off to an excellent start in the opening quarter booting six goals to take a handy two goal lead at the first break.
Nat Caruso found plenty of the ball as did Greg Tivendale and both players used their possession extremely well. Daniel Connors moved forward kicking three goals for the match and having a hand in a couple of others. Coburg’s brand of football the play, particularly their first halves, has been a joy to watch in season 2008.
¼ Time: Coburg 6.3 (39) North Ballarat 4.4 (28)
For the second consecutive week Cleve Hughes dominated up forward. He led extremely well and marked everything that came his way, finishing with four majors for the Burgers. However like fellow Burger forwards, Jack Riewoldt and Mitch Morton, Hughes is likely to be looked upon for Richmond next week.
The amount of possession was fairly even in the second quarter for both sides, but Coburg kicked more accurately finishing the quarter with four goals to Ballarats two. Fort Caruso continued on his consistent goal kicking form with two majors for the match, as did Andrew Collins.
½ Time: Coburg 10.5 (65) North Ballarat 6.8 (44)
The Burgers wasted opportunities in the third term kicking a very inaccurate; one goal six behinds for the quarter. The Tiger fans were getting a little rowdy during the quarter, and perhaps expected a little more than only a three goal lead at the last break. Joel Bowden found a lot of the ball across half back collecting 30 possessions, while Greg Tivendale again found form for Coburg picking up 22 touches in the midfield. The Coburg backmen had worked tightly together all day conceding only eight goals in three quarters and getting numbers to the drop of the ball.
¾ Time: Coburg 11.11 (77) North Ballarat 8.12 (60)
The final term was a nail bitter for all involved at ABD Stadium. Both sides disposal efficiency had dropped and there were a lot of tired players out there, never the less it was great to watch.
In what was a tipsy-turvy quarter the Burgers were actually ahead by five points when the final siren sounded. But to all Burger supporters demise the game hadn’t finished and Roosters player Orren Stephenson had the ball 50 metres out and kicked accurately to give the Roosters a one point victory.
For the second week in a row the Burgers seemed to have been in a winning position only to see the opposition claim an unlikely win.
Cleve Hughes was best a-field for the Burgers controlling the forward line finishing with four goals. Jarrod Oaklay-Nicholls excited the crowd with his speed on the wing while Nick Carnell won a lot of contested footy as always.
Coburg Tigers 6.3 10.5 11.11 13.13 (91)
North Ballarat 4.4 6.8 8.12 13.14 (92)
Goal Kickers: C. Hughes 4, D. Connors 3, F. Caruso , A. Collins 2, D. Polo, J. Gazzo 1
Best Players: C. Hughes, N. Caruso, J. Bowden, G. Tivendale, N. Carnell, J. Oakley-Nicholls
Reserves
The Burger reserves continued on their early season form thumping North Ballarat by 76 points. After a very errant first quarter in which the Burgers squandered a huge amount of goaling opportunities kicking eleven behinds, the forwards found their radar in the last term kicking ten goals and only a single behind.
Tas Clingan was best on ground finding plenty of the ball, but like most weeks with this bunch of blokes it was another superb team performance all over the ground.
Clayton Collard kicked 4 goals in only his second game for the Burgers, with Nick Lynch and Paul Currie adding another seven between them.
2007 number two draft pick Trent Cotchin made his debut for the Burgers and added a goal.
Coburg Tigers 2.11 8.12 12.16 22.17 (149)
North Ballarat 3.2 8.3 9.3 11.7 (73)
Goal Kickers: N. Lynch , C. Collard 4, P. Currie 3, T. Dulic , T. Casserly 2 S. Huy, B. Hopkins, D. Putt, N. Cattapan, T. Simpson, T. Cotchin, G. Carrick 1
Best Players: T. Clingan, T. Casserly, S. Foster, S. Huy, N. Lynch, G. Carrick
coburgtigers.com.au