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Title: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: TFL on April 17, 2008, 05:11:57 PM
B: Jake King, Will Thursfield, Kelvin Moore
HB: Chris Newman, Jay Schulz, Jordan McMahon
C: Brett Deledio, Shane Tuck, Matthew Richardson
HF: Matt White, Graham Polak, Richard Tambling
F: Nathan Brown, Jack Riewoldt, Mitch Morton
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Kane Johnson, Nathan Foley
I/C (from): Adam Pattison, Chris Hyde, Cleve Hughes, Daniel Jackson, Greg Tivendale, Luke McGuane, Shane Edwards


In: Tivendale, Hughes, Jackson
Out: Nil
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 17, 2008, 05:13:48 PM
Tivendale? Oh my God.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: one-eyed on April 17, 2008, 05:17:18 PM
Beat me too it TFL  :cheers
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: richmondrules on April 17, 2008, 05:21:46 PM
No Bowden.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: mightytiges on April 17, 2008, 05:32:47 PM
Richo named on the wing.

No Bowden or Petts. 

Looks like no change to me. I'm happy if that's the case. Reward the 22 who put in last week. 
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: tigersalive on April 17, 2008, 05:43:11 PM
I see no reason for a change and the only plausible one would be to reward Hughes but the kid will just have to keep working.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: one-eyed on April 17, 2008, 05:44:27 PM
WESTERN BULLDOGS

B: Callan, Lake, Morris
HB: Gilbee, Wight, Hargrave
C: Hill, Boyd, Cross
HF: Murphy, Hahn, Giansiracusa
F: Akermanis, Johnson, Welsh
FOLL: Hudson, Cooney, Griffen
I/C: Addison, Minson, Eagleton, Harbrow, Street, Ward, Skipper

IN: Skipper, Street, Ward
OUT: -

NEW: Callan Ward, Selection No.19 in the 2007 NAB AFL Draft, from Western Under-18s
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 17, 2008, 06:04:04 PM
WESTERN BULLDOGS

B: Callan, Lake, Morris
HB: Gilbee, Wight, Hargrave
C: Hill, Boyd, Cross
HF: Murphy, Hahn, Giansiracusa
F: Akermanis, Johnson, Welsh
FOLL: Hudson, Cooney, Griffen
I/C: Addison, Minson, Eagleton, Harbrow, Street, Ward, Skipper

IN: Skipper, Street, Ward
OUT: -

NEW: Callan Ward, Selection No.19 in the 2007 NAB AFL Draft, from Western Under-18s

Most skillfull forward line in the league.

Small defenders are going to have to be good.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 17, 2008, 07:34:47 PM
Tivendale? Oh my God.

for once we agree
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: {X} on April 17, 2008, 07:44:44 PM
cant believe tivendale is even named an emergency, thats a joke.

hope it is true that aker and the cheat brad johnson are really carrying injuries
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Darth Tiger on April 17, 2008, 08:16:04 PM
Looks fair to me, naming Tivva rewards effort at Coburg.  Does not mean that he will make the 22.

Would like to see a late change for Hyde out & Jacko in for run with either West or preferably Brad Johnson (a genuine superstar of the game).
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: bluey_21 on April 17, 2008, 08:25:36 PM
Just hope Edwards gets in :pray
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 17, 2008, 08:26:49 PM
IMHO if the winning side from last week are all fit they deserve to play this week
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Little Jackie on April 17, 2008, 09:15:59 PM
Went to Coburg last week, thought Tivs has earnt his recall, if he does get a game.
Wheres Connors ?????
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 17, 2008, 09:39:52 PM
Looks fair to me, naming Tivva rewards effort at Coburg. 

While Collins gets dropped to the Burger 2's  :-\
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on April 17, 2008, 10:28:55 PM
Please Terry keep the team as is.
Dropping someone after a four quarter team effort last week would not be right.
Hope Bowden stays at Coburg in the ensuing weeks. He will be an asset for them.
His community projects will really take off at the grass roots level.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: TFL on April 17, 2008, 11:23:38 PM
Collins has been good but i dont think he is ready for AFL yet, needs to develop his body still.

To me he is one who you would blood towards the end of the year to give him a taste.

He has been doing ok at Coburg but needs to stand up when the going gets tough.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: tigersalive on April 17, 2008, 11:48:41 PM
Went to Coburg last week, thought Tivs has earnt his recall, if he does get a game.
Wheres Connors ?????

Daniel Connors:
Daniel showed last year he has got terrific talent. He had a real setback in the pre-season with a stress fracture in his foot that kept him out for eight weeks plus. He’s getting himself as fit as he can and once he has done that, we’re looking forward to him playing AFL footy.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: mightytiges on April 18, 2008, 02:19:45 AM
Went to Coburg last week, thought Tivs has earnt his recall, if he does get a game.
Wheres Connors ?????

Daniel Connors:
Daniel showed last year he has got terrific talent. He had a real setback in the pre-season with a stress fracture in his foot that kept him out for eight weeks plus. He’s getting himself as fit as he can and once he has done that, we’re looking forward to him playing AFL footy.

Although he may play some games towards the end of the season, 2009 after a full preseason is looking more likely as the time he breaks into the senior side. Daniel virtually has had no preseason or practice matches this year.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: richmondrules on April 18, 2008, 07:38:28 AM
Just hope Edwards gets in :pray

I'd be really annoyed if he didn't.

I thought it was pretty telling that the team last week was the closest we had fielded to the team we were fielding at the end of last season bringing some of the younger boys in. I think it shows that the small momentum we were building towards the end of last year was in no small part to the efforts of our young cubs. Also shows up the quality of our seniors. The team at the beginning of this season really made me yawn. The team last week against Freo was exciting. I have a feeling when our young players click this club will really explode as a football team (in a good way of course). It may be a few years off yet but, IMO, the first signs are good.

Stick with the kids Terry!!
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: richmondrules on April 18, 2008, 07:51:26 AM
Went to Coburg last week, thought Tivs has earnt his recall, if he does get a game.
Wheres Connors ?????

Daniel Connors:
Daniel showed last year he has got terrific talent. He had a real setback in the pre-season with a stress fracture in his foot that kept him out for eight weeks plus. He’s getting himself as fit as he can and once he has done that, we’re looking forward to him playing AFL footy.

Although he may play some games towards the end of the season, 2009 after a full preseason is looking more likely as the time he breaks into the senior side. Daniel virtually has had no preseason or practice matches this year.

Come on guys. That's those pesky fact thingys again. You've been warned about littering the board with them. Pull your socks up you let the whole side down with posts like those.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: julzqld on April 18, 2008, 08:08:11 AM
Would it have made more sense to list Richo in the forward line but change him to the wing come game day?  Keep the opposition guessing.  Why alert them in advance of what you are going to do?  Make it so unpredictable that the opposition are left scratching their heads.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: tigersalive on April 18, 2008, 08:10:30 AM
Would it have made more sense to list Richo in the forward line but change him to the wing come game day?  Keep the opposition guessing.  Why alert them in advance of what you are going to do?  Make it so unpredictable that the opposition are left scratching their heads.

Naa that horse has bolted now, they know he will play either but they done but still dont know where exactly.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: richmondrules on April 18, 2008, 08:19:47 AM
Would it have made more sense to list Richo in the forward line but change him to the wing come game day?  Keep the opposition guessing.  Why alert them in advance of what you are going to do?  Make it so unpredictable that the opposition are left scratching their heads.

Naa that horse has bolted now, they know he will play either but they done but still dont know where exactly.

Rocket will have a plan for both situations now. Doesn't matter where they list Richo.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Smokey on April 18, 2008, 08:43:38 AM
Would it have made more sense to list Richo in the forward line but change him to the wing come game day?  Keep the opposition guessing.  Why alert them in advance of what you are going to do?  Make it so unpredictable that the opposition are left scratching their heads.

Naa that horse has bolted now, they know he will play either but they done but still dont know where exactly.

Rocket will have a plan for both situations now. Doesn't matter where they list Richo.
Yeah, I don't think any opposition coach takes one bit of notice of where players are named in the teams made public.  They know where players are likely to play and will have a number of plans to cope with the possibilities as they see them.  They may not foresee the occasional one (like Freo with Richo last week) but it wouldn't have mattered where he was named - they have their own intelligence sources and gut feel and would generally run with that.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: julzqld on April 18, 2008, 09:53:43 AM
Still if I was Plough, I'd have Richo all over the place, just to make manning up on him as hard as possible.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: richmondrules on April 18, 2008, 10:39:18 AM
Still if I was Plough, I'd have Richo all over the place, just to make manning up on him as hard as possible.

 :thumbsup Like your thinking julz. Name him at full back and let them waste their time thinking up a plan for something that will never happen. lol.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Tigermonk on April 18, 2008, 10:59:22 AM
Only out would be McGuane if he dont come up
X Tivendale has returned  ;D his haunting you  :thumbsup just showing you that his top VFL player,  but his AFL days are maybe over the pace of the game has caught him, But if he breaks in he deserves it.
Wallace has left the making a statement on Bowden a year to late on many other players that should have went before him but Joel's mistake riddled last season & early this season has taken its own toll on him & l beleive he is one of the players guilty of not playing to game plan structure with chip kicking, overuse & turnovers. chipkicker Hyde will be next to go & Johnson well his retiring with Tivendale years end anyway  ;D Conners one man team not worthy of a game this year.  Hughes should be brought in for this game at the place of McGuane l think he really needs to take the chance now. if not a unchanged lineup to what gunna be a good contest. fittest team & accurate kicking for goal wins, as long as we stop them midfield cause they kick 20 goals easy a week
Akermanus & Johnson will line up, It dont matter what plan thier got for Richo he will beat his opponant anyway its hard to match a great marking mobile player up,  so depends they might expose it & play off him themselves open the corridor up with a running player.
Insiders might bring the Bulldogs plans screaming back to earth  :thumbsup  :bow
 
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Stripes on April 18, 2008, 11:16:28 AM
I would line Richo up in the goal square at the start of the game and then have him run upto the wing once the siren has sounded, then get him to go back and then run forward. The more unpredictable we can make Richo the better we can utilize his strengths. Foremost I would like to see Richo used as a link players around the middle who floats forward.

It will be interesting to see if Rocket tries to 'tag' Richo. I just can't see how any player could keep up with him who is of comparitive size and marking ability.

We need to keep rotating our big forwards and have as much movement and team work in our F50 as possible. The minute we leave a stay at home forward (who ever it is) in the goal square we will become predictable and our midfielders will bomb it to them regardless of how many opposition are on them.

I would love to see more smaller players rotated through the forwardline - we need crumbers!

Stripes
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Struggletown on April 18, 2008, 11:39:47 AM
I reckon Mc Guane is the only player you could drop from last week.

Jackson will probably return, but Hughes may be a smokey to expose the Dogs lack of defensive height.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: tigersalive on April 18, 2008, 12:07:45 PM
As McGuane isnt even named for Coburg I sense he might actually named with an injury as an out tonight.  :-\

No matter, put Clever in for him.  Stick him at FF and put Sarge down back.  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Stripes on April 18, 2008, 12:20:51 PM
McGuane missing would be a shame especially considering his developing form.

Cleve is an enigma to me. He seems to have the talent but just doesn't seem to ever get the ball in his hands. He still seems like a nervy kid out there and doesn't know where to position himself. I'm not sure if it is a confidence thing but regardless he needs to show us (and the coaches) more committment and have a breakout week soon!

Jackson maybe an interesting prospect to try in the backline. He has the speed and size but is lacking with the height.

On the smaller ground of Telstra, it will be a completely different tussle than last week. Congested footy will be the norm and height will be much more important and will crumbers at both ends of the ground.

Stripes

Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 18, 2008, 01:10:14 PM
Jackson maybe an interesting prospect to try in the backline. He has the speed and size but is lacking with the height.

No thanks - can't kick.

Would rather the like of Connors there.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Little Jackie on April 18, 2008, 01:37:06 PM
Would it have made more sense to list Richo in the forward line but change him to the wing come game day?  Keep the opposition guessing.  Why alert them in advance of what you are going to do?  Make it so unpredictable that the opposition are left scratching their heads.

Naa that horse has bolted now, they know he will play either but they done but still dont know where exactly.

Rocket will have a plan for both situations now. Doesn't matter where they list Richo.
Yeah, I don't think any opposition coach takes one bit of notice of where players are named in the teams made public.  They know where players are likely to play and will have a number of plans to cope with the possibilities as they see them.  They may not foresee the occasional one (like Freo with Richo last week) but it wouldn't have mattered where he was named - they have their own intelligence sources and gut feel and would generally run with that.

Players dont play in positions,they go on match ups.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: 1965 on April 18, 2008, 02:33:58 PM
Would it have made more sense to list Richo in the forward line but change him to the wing come game day?  Keep the opposition guessing.  Why alert them in advance of what you are going to do?  Make it so unpredictable that the opposition are left scratching their heads.

Naa that horse has bolted now, they know he will play either but they done but still dont know where exactly.

Rocket will have a plan for both situations now. Doesn't matter where they list Richo.
Yeah, I don't think any opposition coach takes one bit of notice of where players are named in the teams made public.  They know where players are likely to play and will have a number of plans to cope with the possibilities as they see them.  They may not foresee the occasional one (like Freo with Richo last week) but it wouldn't have mattered where he was named - they have their own intelligence sources and gut feel and would generally run with that.

Players dont play in positions,they go on match ups.

Nonsense, a lot of players play in a position regardless of the match ups.

Simmo in the ruck, most of the forwards etc.

I expect better from you jackie.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Little Jackie on April 18, 2008, 03:18:10 PM
What I meant to say that you will find that each players knows who they are playing on and if they push over to another zone, there opponnent will go with them, eg If Simmo pushes in into F 50, his opponnent would go with him unless a message comes from the coaches box
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: 1965 on April 18, 2008, 03:30:56 PM

That's what you say now.

 :shh
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Little Jackie on April 18, 2008, 04:06:47 PM

That's what you say now.

 :shh

For what its worth, the team is picked , match ups against match ups. :shh
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: blx on April 18, 2008, 04:19:12 PM
i hope were not in for dissapontment in the next few hours with Patto and Titch named for the burgs  >:(
Title: Richmond final 22 - no change
Post by: one-eyed on April 18, 2008, 06:00:10 PM
No change


RICHMOND

B: Jake King, Will Thursfield, Kelvin Moore
HB: Chris Newman, Jay Schulz, Jordan McMahon
C: Brett Deledio, Shane Tuck, Matthew Richardson
HF: Matt White, Graham Polak, Richard Tambling
F: Nathan Brown, Jack Riewoldt, Mitch Morton
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Kane Johnson, Nathan Foley
I/C: Adam Pattison, Chris Hyde, Luke McGuane, Shane Edwards

EMG: Daniel Jackson, Greg Tivendale, Cleve Hughes


WESTERN BULLDOGS

B: Tim Callan, Brian Lake , Dale Morris
HB: Lindsay Gilbee, Cameron Wight, Ryan Hargrave
C: Josh Hill, Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross
HF: Daniel Giansiracusa, Mitch Hahn, Robert Murphy
F: Jason Akermanis, Brad Johnson, Scott Welsh
Foll: Ben Hudson, Adam Cooney, Ryan Griffen
I/C: Nathan Eagleton, Dylan Addison, Jarrod Harbow, Will Minson

EMG: Peter Street, Wayde Skipper, Callan Ward

http://www.afl.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=58096
Title: Re: Richmond final 22 - no change
Post by: richmondrules on April 18, 2008, 06:12:50 PM
No change

 :thumbsup

Nobody deserved to be dropped after last week. Pressure's on to stay in the team. Best way to do that? Play well and win.

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: F0551L on April 18, 2008, 06:59:17 PM
What I meant to say that you will find that each players knows who they are playing on and if they push over to another zone, there opponnent will go with them, eg If Simmo pushes in into F 50, his opponnent would go with him unless a message comes from the coaches box

 with todays  bench player rotation system  playing on your man  is more whos in your zone rather than a stated position 
the days of 18 set positions has gone
todays player plays the zone first
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: cub on April 18, 2008, 07:34:37 PM
100 % fine by me  :gotigers
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: DallasCrane on April 18, 2008, 08:04:39 PM
100 % fine by me  :gotigers

And if it wasn't?  ;D
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 18, 2008, 08:34:20 PM
no change...for once i agree
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: cub on April 18, 2008, 09:44:14 PM
100 % fine by me  :gotigers

And if it wasn't?  ;D

Ahhh Oh um yeah - well mmmm  :santa
Title: Re: Richmond final 22 - no change
Post by: mightytiges on April 18, 2008, 11:42:27 PM
No change

 :thumbsup

Nobody deserved to be dropped after last week. Pressure's on to stay in the team. Best way to do that? Play well and win.

 :gotigers
Spot on RROFO. It's perform and do your role or you're out. The right decision has been made.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: DallasCrane on April 19, 2008, 01:14:29 PM
Ahhh Oh um yeah - well mmmm  :santa

This is a true story CUB;
Back in the Frawley days I wrote a letter criticising him, one of the points being his selection. Gaspar had just come back from injury and was in terrible form, the worst of his career. Frawley's PA rang me and the conversation went a little (well, exactly) like this-
PA: This is Danny Frawley's PA, I just rang to see what your problem is.
DC: Danny Frawley has a PA? No wonder the club's going broke!
PA: Yes he does, now what exactly is your problem?
DC: I'll tell you what he problem is, it's Darren Gaspar.
PA: You do realise he has just come back from a knee reco don't you?
DC: Yes, I do, but if your not right to play then you should be in the reserves like everyone else.
PA: Do you think Collingwood brings up Nathan Buckley through the reserves?
DC: HE AIN'T NO NATHAN BUCKLEY!!!
DC: end call.

I learnt a lesson out of that CUB, I just accept what the club does now, because it can be more frustrating if you enquire into things!
Title: Re: Richmond final 22 - no change
Post by: Judge Roughneck on April 19, 2008, 09:35:49 PM
No change


RICHMOND

B: Jake King, Will Thursfield, Kelvin Moore
HB: Chris Newman, Jay Schulz, Jordan McMahon
C: Brett Deledio, Shane Tuck, Matthew Richardson
HF: Matt White, Graham Polak, Richard Tambling
F: Nathan Brown, Jack Riewoldt, Mitch Morton
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Kane Johnson, Nathan Foley
I/C: Adam Pattison, Chris Hyde, Luke McGuane, Shane Edwards

EMG: Daniel Jackson, Greg Tivendale, Cleve Hughes


WESTERN BULLDOGS

Poor form.

B: Tim Callan, Brian Lake , Dale Morris
HB: Lindsay Gilbee, Cameron Wight, Ryan Hargrave
C: Josh Hill, Matthew Boyd, Daniel Cross
HF: Daniel Giansiracusa, Mitch Hahn, Robert Murphy
F: Jason Akermanis, Brad Johnson, Scott Welsh
Foll: Ben Hudson, Adam Cooney, Ryan Griffen
I/C: Nathan Eagleton, Dylan Addison, Jarrod Harbow, Will Minson

EMG: Peter Street, Wayde Skipper, Callan Ward

http://www.afl.com.au/News/NewsArticle/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=58096
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: one-eyed on April 20, 2008, 05:25:33 AM
All 3 Bulldog emergencies played for Willy yesterday so it looks like Brad Johnson will be playing.
Title: Re: Richmond selected team for Round 5
Post by: tigersalive on April 20, 2008, 01:26:50 PM
No late changes according to TW on 3aw just then.  :thumbsup