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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on April 22, 2008, 07:22:16 PM
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VFL Round 5
Coburg Tigers vs Box Hill Hawks
Seniors:
Friday 25th April
2:00 PM
ABD Group Stadium (Coburg City Oval)
Ressies:
Sunday 27th April
12:00 PM ........ (VFL website has midnight :wallywink)
ABD Group Stadium (Coburg City Oval)
Broadcast:
Radio - 3SER Casey Radio 97.7 FM
Internet - http://202.130.204.44/3serlive.asx
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Seniors:
Friday 25th April
2:00 PM
ABD Group Stadium (Coburg City Oval)
Ressies:
Sunday 27th April
12:00 PM ........ (VFL website has midnight :wallywink)
ABD Group Stadium (Coburg City Oval)
How small are the ressies quarters to fit that in. :-\
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Seniors:
Friday 25th April
2:00 PM
ABD Group Stadium (Coburg City Oval)
Ressies:
Sunday 27th April
12:00 PM ........ (VFL website has midnight :wallywink)
ABD Group Stadium (Coburg City Oval)
How small are the ressies quarters to fit that in. :-\
They're on different days TA ;)
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Cotchin is still about a month away from his senior debut according to the Herald-Sun.
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Cotchin is still about a month away from his senior debut according to the Herald-Sun.
Sounds fair, no rush.
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Seniors:
Friday 25th April
2:00 PM
ABD Group Stadium (Coburg City Oval)
Ressies:
Sunday 27th April
12:00 PM ........ (VFL website has midnight :wallywink)
ABD Group Stadium (Coburg City Oval)
How small are the ressies quarters to fit that in. :-\
They're on different days TA ;)
Lol, whoops. ;D
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Cotchin is still about a month away from his senior debut according to the Herald-Sun.
Unleash him at Dreamtime. :thumbsup
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Cotchin is still about a month away from his senior debut according to the Herald-Sun.
Sounds fair, no rush.
Yep wait until he is fit enough to play out 4 quarters for Coburg.
Plough must have read Ramps post about keeping Cotch for a debut in the Dreamtime game.
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Here is the Coburg line up
B Bowden Silvester Oakley-Nicholls
HB Morris McGuane Robertson
C Howat Polo Hyde
HF Pettifer Pattison Morton
F Tivendale Hughes Graham
R Cartledge Jackson Shelton
Int Putt Gazzo Horne
Lynch Collins Cotchin
Casserly Carrick Liddle
Rayson Caruso Carnell
Where is Connors? :shh
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Hey yeah where is Connors, not in seniors or the burgers. Don't tell me he's playing for the ressies :banghead
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Cheers TFL :cheers. Good to see Gus and Putt may get a game. No Rance though ???.
It could be the ressies for Connors as Rawlings wasn't happy with Daniel's commitment in EOTT.
Daniel Connors
Struggled throughout the match. No question of his talent, but needs to focus on the basics better.
Cleve also got a whack for only working to the required level for 20 minutes.
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Im slowly coming to the conclusion that the coburg alliance will not help us long term because players who need to be developing in Coburgs seniors on a regular basis cant get a go because of the rules. None of our young players should be in Coburg 2s, they should all be playing in Coburg 1s.
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Im slowly coming to the conclusion that the coburg alliance will not help us long term because players who need to be developing in Coburgs seniors on a regular basis cant get a go because of the rules. None of our young players should be in Coburg 2s, they should all be playing in Coburg 1s.
Ramps there are no restrictions this week, its only against teams such as Port Melbourne and Frankston who dont have an alignment.
If a player isnt showing the right attitude, what more of a kick up the arse could you get than being dropped to the 3rds essentially.
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Im slowly coming to the conclusion that the coburg alliance will not help us long term because players who need to be developing in Coburgs seniors on a regular basis cant get a go because of the rules. None of our young players should be in Coburg 2s, they should all be playing in Coburg 1s.
Ramps there are no restrictions this week, its only against teams such as Port Melbourne and Frankston who dont have an alignment.
If a player isnt showing the right attitude, what more of a kick up the behind could you get than being dropped to the 3rds essentially.
What about a kid like Rance, which I still havent heard a bad word about, why is he stuck there then?
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Im slowly coming to the conclusion that the coburg alliance will not help us long term because players who need to be developing in Coburgs seniors on a regular basis cant get a go because of the rules. None of our young players should be in Coburg 2s, they should all be playing in Coburg 1s.
Ramps there are no restrictions this week, its only against teams such as Port Melbourne and Frankston who dont have an alignment.
If a player isnt showing the right attitude, what more of a kick up the behind could you get than being dropped to the 3rds essentially.
What about a kid like Rance, which I still havent heard a bad word about, why is he stuck there then?
It basically comes down to balance, he is a great kid and has a great attitude. It would be great for him to be playing seniors as he will only get better IMO. Richmond would definately have a say in the development of the players and where they play each week. Rance plays a similar spot to what JON is currently playing, i know who i would rather play but i doubt you will JON dropped from the seniors.
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Im slowly coming to the conclusion that the coburg alliance will not help us long term because players who need to be developing in Coburgs seniors on a regular basis cant get a go because of the rules. None of our young players should be in Coburg 2s, they should all be playing in Coburg 1s.
Ramps there are no restrictions this week, its only against teams such as Port Melbourne and Frankston who dont have an alignment.
If a player isnt showing the right attitude, what more of a kick up the behind could you get than being dropped to the 3rds essentially.
What about a kid like Rance, which I still havent heard a bad word about, why is he stuck there then?
It basically comes down to balance, he is a great kid and has a great attitude. It would be great for him to be playing seniors as he will only get better IMO. Richmond would definately have a say in the development of the players and where they play each week. Rance plays a similar spot to what JON is currently playing, i know who i would rather play but i doubt you will JON dropped from the seniors.
It is a strange one that, but I guess I'm not going to get a definitive answer why JON despite some horrible performances has never been dropped?
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I hear Mr. Neville will not be facing his former team tomorrow. ;)
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They had Barry Mitchell Box Hill coach on SEN before and they asked him if he was going to tag Trent Cotchin lol. Seems Cotch has made quite an impression despite no preseason and just 80% game time in one game.
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Im slowly coming to the conclusion that the coburg alliance will not help us long term because players who need to be developing in Coburgs seniors on a regular basis cant get a go because of the rules. None of our young players should be in Coburg 2s, they should all be playing in Coburg 1s.
Ramps there are no restrictions this week, its only against teams such as Port Melbourne and Frankston who dont have an alignment.
If a player isnt showing the right attitude, what more of a kick up the behind could you get than being dropped to the 3rds essentially.
What about a kid like Rance, which I still havent heard a bad word about, why is he stuck there then?
It basically comes down to balance, he is a great kid and has a great attitude. It would be great for him to be playing seniors as he will only get better IMO. Richmond would definately have a say in the development of the players and where they play each week. Rance plays a similar spot to what JON is currently playing, i know who i would rather play but i doubt you will JON dropped from the seniors.
It is a strange one that, but I guess I'm not going to get a definitive answer why JON despite some horrible performances has never been dropped?
Because each week he gets praise for his efforts in EOTT from Rawlings :-\
Jarrod Oakley-Nichols
When he got his running game going, he was a good player. Made some errors at crucial times, which reduced his rating from good to okay, but is definitely showing improvement.
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Im slowly coming to the conclusion that the coburg alliance will not help us long term because players who need to be developing in Coburgs seniors on a regular basis cant get a go because of the rules. None of our young players should be in Coburg 2s, they should all be playing in Coburg 1s.
Ramps there are no restrictions this week, its only against teams such as Port Melbourne and Frankston who dont have an alignment.
If a player isnt showing the right attitude, what more of a kick up the behind could you get than being dropped to the 3rds essentially.
What about a kid like Rance, which I still havent heard a bad word about, why is he stuck there then?
It basically comes down to balance, he is a great kid and has a great attitude. It would be great for him to be playing seniors as he will only get better IMO. Richmond would definately have a say in the development of the players and where they play each week. Rance plays a similar spot to what JON is currently playing, i know who i would rather play but i doubt you will JON dropped from the seniors.
It is a strange one that, but I guess I'm not going to get a definitive answer why JON despite some horrible performances has never been dropped?
Because each week he gets praise for his efforts in EOTT from Rawlings :-\
Jarrod Oakley-Nichols
When he got his running game going, he was a good player. Made some errors at crucial times, which reduced his rating from good to okay, but is definitely showing improvement.
Serves me right for not renewing my membership quick enough this year and not got my package yet to access EOTT and get those game reports. :(
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If a player isnt showing the right attitude, what more of a kick up the behind could you get than being dropped to the 3rds essentially.
That is a very good point :thumbsup
It basically comes down to balance, .....
Richmond would definately have a say in the development of the players and where they play each week.
That makes sense too ;D
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Any news on if Bowden, Jackson and Collins are in Coburg colours yet?
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Jackson, Cotchin, Howat, Bowden playing
Putt goal :thumbsup
Coburg 1.0-6
Box Hill 0.0-0
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putt 1st goal!!!!1
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bowden shocking
no defensive pressure what so ever no second ever
burgers 1.0.6
box hill 1.1.7
cleve just markd
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Small crowd. They're hoping for a late turn up.
Neville playing for Box Hill
JON there too. Bowden bumped off the ball by a small player and turnover.
6 - 7
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cleve goals
cob 2.0.12
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Cleve on Hack Dawson. JON long into space and Cleve marks with the flight of the ball. Praise for COtchin and JON's running.
12 - 7
Goals: Hughes, Putt
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Tivs, Petts playing too.
Cleve on the lead marks. Misses
13 - 7
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hughes marks 30 out from goal
tough angle misses
2.1.13
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goal to the hawks
2.1 a piece
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Silvester on Dowler. Twice beaten so far.
13 - 13
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cotchin playing well
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Cass, Graham there too. Haven't heard Collins' name yet.
Mucky footy. Plenty of turnovers. Crowd building up now.
14 - 13
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jackson doing nice things
carnell pont
goal box hill
14-19
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Jackson excellent at VFL level but skills let him down at times.
Cotch is playing well X
14 - 20
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jackson our best so far
cotch playing very well as is JON
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cotchin kicks inside 50
rayson going for goal
kicks on top of sqaure
box hill relieve
no score
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box hill mark in goal sqaure and will goal
4.2.26 box hill
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Petts goal. Needed that.
20 -26
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cotchin impressive , knows how to find the ball
pettifer goal
3.2.20 cob
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Jon doing ok
hughes marks on wing
bowden inside 50
oob
ball up/throw up
box hill free
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Has Joel hit a target yet ???
20 - 32
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petterson for BH going for goal no2
kicks it
BH 5.2.32
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Bowden spins around to Petts who goes one-handed = turnover :banghead
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Has Joel hit a target yet ???
20 - 32
no, joel is finished
jackson on a mission, wants to get back in the seniors unlike joel
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Winning the clearances but disposal is ordinary. Box Hill with a strong breeze though.
Tivs = turnover. 20 - 33
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Quarter time
Coburg 3.2-20
Box Hill 5.3-33
Goals: Putt, Hughes, Pettifer
13 RFC players: Cotchin, Jackson, Putt, Cass, Bowden, Petts, Silvester, Howat, Hughes, JON, Graham, Tivs, Cartledge
No Collins as far as I can tell
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dowler starting to get on top of sylvester
sylvester now moved off dowler, dont know why we rookied this hack
20-33 QT
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No Collins as far as I can tell
have not heard him either, have a feeling he may come in on sunday
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Hughes has been good on the lead. 3 marks. More CHF. Well on top of Dawson.
JON actually has done well. Got a fair bit of it nd by the sound of it used it well.
Jackson doing well in the clearances but disposal has been off.
Cotchin plenty of it. Sounds as though he's playing across HB.
Bowden - very soft so far. Got a fair bit of it but seems disinterested.
Silvester was well beaten by Dowler.
The rest I've only heard only a couple of times.
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I thought you could have as many RFC listed players as you wanted if you were playing an aligned team.
Is that just for finals??
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Cartledge there too so that's 13 RFC players. 7 Hawthorn players. All there 3 emergencies playing - McGlynn, Morton and Stokes so no change for them tomorrow.
20 - 39
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box hill getting alot of soft free kicks
goal box hill
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I thought you could have as many RFC listed players as you wanted if you were playing an aligned team.
Is that just for finals??
You're right X. There's 13 btw. I missed Cartledge.
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cleary must be gay, just said barry mitchell is a gorgeous guy wtf!
morris defending well
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Petts go one-handed again ::) so misses the mark inside 50. Box Hill clear.
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cotchin rarely waste a disposal, bloody petts going at it one handed again
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Petts go one-handed again ::) so misses the mark inside 50. Box Hill clear.
yep petts and bowden are gawn!
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4 unanswered goals to the dawks
cotchin is too good for this level, time to elevate him
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Last 4 goals to Box Hill. Box Hill more desperate.
Polo there too.
Good play by Hughes. Carnell goal.
26 - 45
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goal carnell, needed badly, now need the next 3
good work by cleve
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pettifer one hand again
idiot
cleve working hard , great defensve efforts up fwd
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27 - 45
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thats at leat 3 times maybe 4 that petticoat has gone for a 1 handed mark
drop him to the coburg ressies next week
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coburg getting on top in general play
petticoat point
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Petts misses too. 28 - 45.
Tivs caught holding the ball. Tivs, Joel, Petts having shockers. Tivs drops the bal againn. Free to Box Hill.
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tiv, bowden petts = jokes
wallace at the game watching
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tiv stuffed up again
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thats at leat 3 times maybe 4 that petticoat has gone for a 1 handed mark
drop him to the coburg ressies next week
Why wasn't he dragged ::)
Tivs another unforced turnover. Kicked it stright to a Hawk. 28 - 46
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tiv another turnover lol, how did this dud play afl at all
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thats at leat 3 times maybe 4 that petticoat has gone for a 1 handed mark
drop him to the coburg ressies next week
Why wasn't he dragged ::)
Tivs another unforced turnover. Kicked it stright to a Hawk. 28 - 46
should have been dragged
bowden is crap
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cotchin must be resting havent heard his name for a bit
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Bowden is getting bagged.
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Shocking skills by the sound of it. Turnover city both sides.
Commentators mocking Bowden for putting his head over the ball for once.
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john morris doing a great job
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jon is prob our best player atm
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Joel must have heard them. Good strong mark backing into the pack. Goal.
35 - 45
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joel courageous mark and goal he must have been told
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Tivs point. Box Hill run it up the other end for a goal.
36 - 51
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Half time
Coburg 3.2 5.6-36
Box Hill 5.3 8.3-51
Goals: Putt, Hughes, Pettifer, Carnell, Bowden
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bloody tiv, misses a sitter and they rebound and goal
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Tivs point. Box Hill run it up the other end for a goal.
36 - 51
are u listeing to radio or webstream OE, i seem to be a few seconds behind ya
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Really quiet quarter for most of the RFC players.
JON is probably the best RFC player. I would say the Burger players are getting their hands more on it than most of the RFC blokes.
Joel and Tivs getting a fair bit of it but stuffing it up nearly every time they get it.
Cotch was out there near the end but I didn't hear him otherwise all quarter.
Bowden 11 possies in the 1st; only 2 in the 2nd
Tivs 14 (8k 6h)
JON 14 (9k 5h)
Jackson 11 (5k 6h)
Hughes 4 marks.
Richo was there watching but has gone home lol.
Wallace with his wife there.
Terry said there's not a lot in it. BH a bit cleaner especially into the forward line. Coburg need more run. HFs too high up the ground early on but they'll sort it out at half-time.
Jack, Edwards, White now at richmond after good form at Coburg.
Ryan O'Connor:
Good crowd there now.
We haven't lost one of these ANZAC Day games so hopefully the boys can turn it around after half-time.
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Tivs point. Box Hill run it up the other end for a goal.
36 - 51
are u listeing to radio or webstream OE, i seem to be a few seconds behind ya
On the radio.
O'Connor said our competitive performances have been lacking in the last few weeks. We still feel we can mix it.
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Tivs point. Box Hill run it up the other end for a goal.
36 - 51
are u listeing to radio or webstream OE, i seem to be a few seconds behind ya
On the radio.
O'Connor said our competitive performances have been lacking in the last few weeks. We still feel we can mix it.
im on web
our competiveness has dropped cos bowden tiv and petts are there
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Tivs point. Box Hill run it up the other end for a goal.
36 - 51
are u listeing to radio or webstream OE, i seem to be a few seconds behind ya
On the radio.
O'Connor said our competitive performances have been lacking in the last few weeks. We still feel we can mix it.
im on web
our competiveness has dropped cos bowden tiv and petts are there
Sadly true. Poor examples. Mind you most RFC players have been quiet and need to lift.
3rd quarter started.
Cass from 50 .... point.
37 - 51
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Bowden run down. Circled the ball. Commentator calls him a prima donna.
37 - 52
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lol
prima poofta
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Petts over the head of JON. Turnover.
Coburg has built a defensive wall this quarter.
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Cartledge tap to Jackson tries to take them on but caught holding the ball.
Liddle with hospital handpass to Polo.
Geez we are playing crap.
Play in Box Hill's forward line.
Just 2 goals in the last 33 minutes.
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Box Hill defender gifts us a goal.
43 - 51
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we are against the wind this quarter and will have the wind in the last
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Jackson bursts out of the pack but kicks it OOTF :P. Box Hill goal on the turnover.
43 - 58
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Robertson moved off Shore. JON on him now.
43 - 59
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X do you know who kicked Coburg's last goal?
Radio signal has gone dead :-\
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bowden lol. what a joke
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X do you know who kicked Coburg's last goal?
Radio signal has gone dead :-\
missed it also, webstream gone dead also sorry oe
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Yep radio signal from game has gone. They're playing football music.
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a;; i have atm, is commercials dont know whats going
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Bowden back in the backline.
Apparently Howat gone for the day with a knee injury.
LOL what a shocking game. Have they played football before :lol.
Robertson to Bowden to Rayson inside 50. Misses.
9 points down
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How are we still so close if we've been so horrible?
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Box Hill are crap too. They are the bottom side.
We must have kicked a goal while the radio was down.
3/4 time
Coburg 3.2 5.6 7.8-50
Box Hill 5.3 8.3 9.6-60
Goals: Casserly 2, Putt, Hughes, Pettifer, Carrick, Bowden
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we have the wind in the last and look much fitter
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Even if we win this we can't be happy. Shocking skillless display.
Rawlings says to kick and run. Praised Liddle, Rayson for their desperation. Get extra numbers to the ball instead of spreading out. We've got the control of this game. Value the possession inside 50. Don't think the wind is going to do it and just bomb it long. Joel back inside 50 20m in front of Petts. Backline held up well. Praised JONNY. We need to show courage as whenever we've done it we've won the ball.
Rawlings told Cleary we haven't played well at all (der!) but we strarted to get on top that quarter. Our finishes haven't been our strength but we've got the momentum and the wind.
Howat with ice pack on the outside of his knee. He's walking unaided though.
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Tivs Mr Footy :lol
Bowden and Cartledge drop marks they should have taken :P but we maintain possession. Jackson 35m out. Goal!
56 - 60
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jackson going for goal 45 degree angle
kicks it well done
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Putt to Bowden contested mark. Back to Putt who puts it OOTF :P.
Commentator still bagging Joel. Saying Bowden overcomplicates things when he doesn't have too like just then.
Bowden marks inside 50. 3 marks so far this quarter. Goal from 50! Coburg in front.
62 - 60
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bowden marks in fwd 50
goal
we r in front
said it many times in the past, that joel is a fwd, when he first started playing he always played fwd or in th efwd half
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Because I have family here now and havent really analysed whats been posted can someone tell us how Cotchin has gone throughout the game
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Winning it out of the middle through Cartledge in the ruck against Renouf.
Cotch good first quarter Ramps (mostly off HB) but out of the game since.
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thanx. Ill be back in a couple of hours to see what happened.
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Petts goals from a free.
68 - 60
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Because I have family here now and havent really analysed whats been posted can someone tell us how Cotchin has gone throughout the game
first quarter and a half was in everything, every possession all class
quiet for a while , think he was resting , and last quarter has been real solid
cotchin is too good and too classy for this level, as soon as he is match fit, he will play for the rfv
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Coburg well on top. Cleve misses a open goal on the run :P.
69 - 60
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hughes misses all one way coburg traffic
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Turnover in the centre results in a shot for BH. Falls short off hands
69 - 61
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Cass kicks long to the hot spot but 3 on 1 Petts means BH clears.
Bowden to Graham to Rayson who then misses with the handball. Misses again with the handball to Gus. BH clear.
Comedy of errors.
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Lucky Dowler can't hold his marks. Game has evened up again.
Still 69 - 61
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Coburg win the contested footy again. Tivs from 55. Misses.
70 - 61
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jon still been very solid and good today
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He has X. Give him his dues today.
Coburg playing circle work overpossessing :P.
Was that Petts one-handed again ::)
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BH Goal against the run of play.
70 - 67
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Cleve a quick snap bounces the wrong side and misses.
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Tivs to Petts and kicks the goal.
78 - 67
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pettifer goal
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been a poor effort though imo, should have flogged this hawk team
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Cotchin to Carrick to Jackson but missed Hughes on the lead. Ball in our forward line. Cotchin snaps but Dawson marks.
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Jacko snap misses. Jacko has felt his upper leg a few times today
Siren goes
Final Score
Coburg 3.2 5.6 7.8 11.13-79
Box Hill 5.3 8.3 9.6 10.7-67
Goals: Pettifer 3, Bowden 2, Putt, Hughes, Carrick, Jackson, Casserly, Carnell
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jackson may have a groin strain, been our best player with jon and the cotch when on the ground imo
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Probably the worst display of football from a winning team I've heard in ages. Turnovers galore. But I guess a win's a win.
Coburg's Morris is on crutches with a bad ankle.
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Bowden on Casey radio
Good win after playing poorly early.
Good fun down here. Enjoying himself.
That's it. Microphone ran out of batteries lol.
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Nick Carnell wins the Gibbs-Lyon medal for B.O.G.
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glad he is having fun there cos thats where he is staying
carnell won the anzac medal but imo jackson deserved it
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Carnell said Bowden reved the boys up at half-time after a poor first half.
Commentator said Joel after a wishy-washy first half stood up in the end.
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Petts 19 possessions, 9 marks
Cartledge 44 hitouts :o
Graham 19 hitouts
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Carnell said Bowden reved the boys up at half-time after a poor first half.
Commentator said Joel after a wishy-washy first half stood up in the end.
joel played well when he went fwd cos he is a natural fwd but his defence game was crap
commentators can be sucks
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2008 VFL Seniors
Coburg Tigers 3.2 5.6 7.8 11.13 (79)
Box Hill Hawks 5.3 8.3 9.6 10.7 (67)
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Pettifer 3 Bowden 2 Carnell Tivendale Casserly Jackson Carrick Hughes
Box Hill Hawks: Shore 3 Pedersen 2 Kennedy 2 Morton Kenna Daniher
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Carnell Silvester Shelton Jackson Tivendale Bowden
Box Hill Hawks: Kenna Kennedy Markovic Morton Shore Clarke
REPORTED PLAYERS:
Coburg Tigers: nil
Box Hill Hawks: Zac Dawson (26) reported for charging Travis Casserly (37)
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sylvester, tiv, bowden..............wtf!!!!!
jon was better than all of them
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Jon was very ordinary, his man kicked 3 goals and killed him all day long. Not to mention the turnovers ::)
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Jon was very ordinary, his man kicked 3 goals and killed him all day long. Not to mention the turnovers ::)
Not according to the commentators.. They seemed to suggest Kris Shore kicked all his goals with Silvester on him .. JON went on him in the third term and held him goal-less But I stand to be corrected.
Heard most of the game and never did I hear JON turn-it-over, WTF are you on about??
Were you there??
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Were you there??
lol. Yep, you'll probably find he was. :thumbsup
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Just shows the difference listening to it on the radio and being there. From the commentary we were told JON didn't make a clear turnover today (unlike his more senior teammates) and he was one of our better players in the first half with his rebound in defence then he shut out Kris Shore in the second half who was their most dangerous looking forward. Whereas Bowden, Tivs and Petts once again showed why they are playing VFL. One-handed attempts at marks and running around in circles. Just poor form from senior supposedly AFL players
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whats going on have Coburg turned to poo lately
l see they won today but over Box Hill should have been a little easy for them
How did Cotchin play
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Jon was very ordinary, his man kicked 3 goals and killed him all day long. Not to mention the turnovers ::)
Not according to the commentators.. They seemed to suggest Kris Shore kicked all his goals with Silvester on him .. JON went on him in the third term and held him goal-less But I stand to be corrected.
Heard most of the game and never did I hear JON turn-it-over, WTF are you on about??
Were you there??
im with you. according to the .
radio, jon was pretty much faultless, all his possessions effective and was really good down back
find it strange not 1 commentator noticed any of "jons" turnovers or "mistakes" but picked up evry other ones made from all other players
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Dont worry about Jon tell me about Cotchin
see Joel played bad l said to the wife maybe he needs to be traded to Collingwood she said she be rapped her favorite player at the skunks :lol
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joel was crap
jackson bog
jon close secoond bog
cotchin when on teh ground was all class and is too good for vfl
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I was there today - am not a JON fan generally but a big improvement today - at least looked like a footballer - hit most easy targets and fed off quickly most times. When he had to hit a difficult target still cant nail them consistently but picked out some good options when he had time -only a couple of 50/50 balls from him today. He went on to Shore in the third and played deep back. Prior to that was runing off half back - appeared to be the loose man from time to time. Pettifer was loose man in defnece in the third and I thought did better there than up forward.
Cotchin is all class and although quiet in the middle of the match was our cleanest handler and best clearance player in the last. Absolute silk, closest comparision is G Ablett Junior, has the hunched shoulders and gliding through packs ability - doesn't look overly quick generally but shows nice closing speed and accelaration through contested situations when needed - probably looks quicker because of his good anticipation and very very clean hands. Better kick than G Ablett junior - especially on wrong side
Nice size for a young mid , strong in the legs - although upper body will improve with some preseasons and maturing. Could easily play next week and not look out of place but probably needs a few weeks to build up some fitness. Exciting times tiger fans - we need them too because Coburg has become boring as bat droppings with the superannuated brigade reurning and the likes of Riewoldt, Edwards, White Morton etc missing.
Happy to answer any questions.
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Cheers for the report Glove :cheers. What you've said about JON fits in with the radio commentary.
How much gametime did Cotchin play? From the radio commentary Cotchin was very good in the first quarter and a bit and got his hands on the footy a fair bit (it sounded as though he was playing across HB). We didn't him mentioned much after that until late in the game in the centre when Coburg were on top and winning most of the clearances.
Also how did Cleve do? He sounded as though he was in and out of the game but when he was in it he lead strongly and marked well across HF.
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JON constantly tries to do too much and while he may not directly cause the turnover, his disposal to a team mate who is under enormous pressure does cause the turnover.
I was standing right neat Wallace in the 1st qtr and even he was making comment that JON keeps running into traffic when he gets the ball and is putting his team mates under too much pressure.
Nick Carnell was fantastic today and really set the tone. Joel's leadership was fantastic, his half time rev up to the boys was very good.
Cothchin is all class, i love the way he busts his gut after disposing the ball to make himself an option again and provide run. He reads the ball ups very well and will be a fantastic player for us.
Cass copped a huge hit from Zac Dawson who was reported. He was feeling a little ordinary after the game.
Robbo was also very strong down back today also.
I thought Tiv struggled.
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Nothing wrong with JON, sometimes people want results straight away, he is doing ok imo.
Joel, could be back next week.
Petts has got the skillls, but mentally a bit of a sook - BIG ? on him.
Cotchin is class, fitness and gametime up and will be going in my supercoach.
Heard about his second efforts and he does it well.... :gotigers more later maybe .....
on a side note cogs walked past 'if u can say that' his hammy is fudged, big struggle for this boy the way he climbed the steps next to me - wish him all the best, but not looking to flash. :gotigers
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Forget about Cogs his finished :lol maybe smokey_58au can go down the club to rub his hammy for him cause he told me he was superfit & be running the seniors soon :lol
l'm getting conflicting reports on Bowden >:( did he play good or not & whats the report on Tivs
l tell ya, its a good feeling seeing the tigers having good players running around for Coburg & the senior team unchanged again
but l hope Rawlings dont drop his guard & continue to push the senior listed players harder cause if he dont it might rub off onto the Coburg team if these senior listed players start thinking their time is up & start doing things to get out
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Thanks for the reports TFL and CUB. Good to hear Cotchin is doing well.
Cogs didn't train this week at all. He didn't even do any running. Not sure where the RFC site got that he was a "test". Compare that to Danny who is training fully but was classed as a week away.
JON constantly tries to do too much and while he may not directly cause the turnover, his disposal to a team mate who is under enormous pressure does cause the turnover.
I was standing right neat Wallace in the 1st qtr and even he was making comment that JON keeps running into traffic when he gets the ball and is putting his team mates under too much pressure.
That's more like the JON we know but you wouldn't have got that impression from the commentary. In fact they were saying JON went onto Shore because he was getting away from Robertson.
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Cheers for the report Glove :cheers. What you've said about JON fits in with the radio commentary.
How much gametime did Cotchin play? From the radio commentary Cotchin was very good in the first quarter and a bit and got his hands on the footy a fair bit (it sounded as though he was playing across HB). We didn't him mentioned much after that until late in the game in the centre when Coburg were on top and winning most of the clearances.
Also how did Cleve do? He sounded as though he was in and out of the game but when he was in it he lead strongly and marked well across HF.
Cotchin played a fair bit, but was probably rotated more than most for a spell. Spent a fair bit of the second up forward. Coburg hamstrung a bit by losing Howat early so one significant runner down. Spent almost all last quarter on ball and really just showed how good he is!
I actually liked Cleve's game a lot - dont know that he had a good game stats wise but did all the thiings he didn't do last year - worked hard - led up competed well - good hands generally - was often outnumbered and did OK and more than OK on a number of occassions - good signs - still need to find a bit more because he cant rely on being just a lead and mark forward.
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Thanks for the reports TFL and CUB. Good to hear Cotchin is doing well.
Cogs didn't train this week at all. He didn't even do any running. Not sure where the RFC site got that he was a "test". Compare that to Danny who is training fully but was classed as a week away.
JON constantly tries to do too much and while he may not directly cause the turnover, his disposal to a team mate who is under enormous pressure does cause the turnover.
I was standing right neat Wallace in the 1st qtr and even he was making comment that JON keeps running into traffic when he gets the ball and is putting his team mates under too much pressure.
That's more like the JON we know but you wouldn't have got that impression from the commentary. In fact they were saying JON went onto Shore because he was getting away from Robertson.
Correct. Shore cut up Robbo a fair bit althought Roberston dod some good things coming back the other way. JON went back on to him in the third and took the honours. We all know JON's weaknesses - but on today's game you can at least say there are some improvements. Whether his poor decision making is terminal, time will tell. He was much more composed and in fact hit up a couple of lovely targets inside. If you saw him for the first time today and didn't know his history you would think he was a promising type.
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I agree with Glove about Cleve. He worked hard and chased and tackled fairly well which is a good sign. The game was a very ordinary level, Box Hill flooded heavily all day and Coburg really stuggled to deal with it, you could see in the third qtr that Box Hill were getting tired and that Coburg may run over them.
In regards to Tigermonks question. Bowden was very good in the second half and played good footy and also gave great leadership.
His first half was a typical Bowden game trying to do bullsh!t things and play around with the ball.
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Cotchin played a fair bit, but was probably rotated more than most for a spell. Spent a fair bit of the second up forward. Coburg hamstrung a bit by losing Howat early so one significant runner down. Spent almost all last quarter on ball and really just showed how good he is!
I actually liked Cleve's game a lot - dont know that he had a good game stats wise but did all the thiings he didn't do last year - worked hard - led up competed well - good hands generally - was often outnumbered and did OK and more than OK on a number of occassions - good signs - still need to find a bit more because he cant rely on being just a lead and mark forward.
Cheers TG. Good to hear on both fronts. Hopefully Cleve can keep working and improving and put his hand up for senior selection each week.
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In regards to Tigermonks question. Bowden was very good in the second half and played good footy and also gave great leadership.
His first half was a typical Bowden game trying to do bullsh!t things and play around with the ball.
And that's why he shouldn't come back into the senior side until he performs properly for 4 quarters at Coburg.
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Nothing wrong with JON, sometimes people want results straight away, he is doing ok imo.
Joel, could be back next week.
Petts has got the skillls, but mentally a bit of a sook - BIG ? on him.
Cotchin is class, fitness and gametime up and will be going in my supercoach.
Heard about his second efforts and he does it well.... :gotigers more later maybe .....
on a side note cogs walked past 'if u can say that' his hammy is fudged, big struggle for this boy the way he climbed the steps next to me - wish him all the best, but not looking to flash. :gotigers
rubbish petts has got no skills. he is a useless selfish footballer who is happy to get his 1-2 goals per match and do no more, while his opponent runs free and picks up a lazy 20 possy's a game.
if we r to move forward its better we do it without him.
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From the Herald-Sun
Brett Stubbs | April 26, 2008
JOEL Bowden has made an irresistible case for inclusion in the Richmond side after starring in the VFL for Coburg for the third straight week.
Playing mainly at half-forward, Bowden kicked two goals and was among Coburg's best in yesterday's 12-point win against Box Hill Hawks at Coburg City Oval.
Coburg's Richmond-listed players were pivotal in the come-from-behind win, with forward Kayne Pettifer booting three goals before moving up the ground after halftime.
Greg Tivendale collected 30 possessions on the wing.
Steve Kenna and Hawthorn-listed utility Josh Kennedy were among Box Hill's best.
Rawlings said his side showed character after hitting the front for the first time in the last quarter.
"We really toughed it out today," Rawlings said.
"We got a bit of momentum in the last quarter and we got a big lift from some of our senior players."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23599919-19742,00.html
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The Age's Coburg match report.....
JOEL Bowden has made an irresistible case for inclusion in the Richmond side after starring in the VFL for Coburg for the third straight week.
Playing mainly at half-forward, Bowden kicked two goals and was among Coburg's best in yesterday's 12-point win against Box Hill Hawks at Coburg City Oval.
Coburg's Richmond-listed players were pivotal in the come-from-behind win, with forward Kayne Pettifer booting three goals before moving up the ground after halftime.
Greg Tivendale collected 30 possessions on the wing.
Steve Kenna and Hawthorn-listed utility Josh Kennedy were among Box Hill's best.
Rawlings said his side showed character after hitting the front for the first time in the last quarter.
"We really toughed it out today," Rawlings said.
"We got a bit of momentum in the last quarter and we got a big lift from some of our senior players."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,23599919-19742,00.html
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total bs and propaganda
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Coburg Ressies squad tomorrow
Alex Rance
Daniel Connors
Andrew Collins
David Gourdis
Clayton Collard
Paul Currie
Cathal Corr
Fortunato Caruso
Chris Stewart
Josh Jones
James Keogh
Tom Simpson
Christian Mcerlain
Shaun Huy
Robert Trajkovski
Joseph Gazzo
Michael Farrelly
Matthew Vasilevski
Nicholas Lynch
Joshua Riddle
Steven Foster
Matthew Davis
Tas Clingan
William Smith
Benjamin Clifton
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Bit poo Connors is playing in the 3's and Hyde in the 1's. :-\
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Bit pooh Connors is playing in the 3's and Hyde in the 1's. :-\
Everything I have read says no one doubts his ability they are just trying to teach him an important lesson.
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Jon was very ordinary, his man kicked 3 goals and killed him all day long. Not to mention the turnovers ::)
Well JON did win the coaches award at the after match. Which isn't for BOG (Carnell got that obviously) but for the player they thought did their job, worked hard and did the team things.
So maybe he wasn't too bad after all :thumbsup
Personally thought it was JON"s best game this year. At the huddle at 3qtr time he received the "kudo's" of the coach. Thought his disposal was v.good - some beautiful passes to the leading target
Thought Cleve's last quarter was very good - he put up a great chase along the boundary - nneds to do more of that :thumbsup
As I said last week Cotchin = special ;D
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2008 VFL Reserves
Coburg Tigers 7.6 15.7 17.7 23.12 (150)
Box Hill Hawks 1.0 2.4 4.8 6.10 (46)
GOALS:
Coburg Tigers: Lynch 5 Gazzo 4 Connors 3 Caruso 2 Clifton 2 Gourdis 2 Collins Currie Collard Jones Rance
Box Hill Hawks: Conyers 3 Angelopoulos Dell Aquilla Wright
BEST:
Coburg Tigers: Rance Foster Collard Caruso Lynch Collins
Box Hill Hawks: Bull Conyers Ward O'Sullivan Warby Kelleher
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Get Rance into the Seniors. NOW! :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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yep rance is wasted in the ressies
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Agree. Rance and Collins should come into the seniors. It's not as though the Coburg seniors are flying and they need to add some class now that Jack, Edwards and co are playing with Richmond.
Actually it's good to see all 5 RFC players contributed in some way. Collard named in the bests is an encouraging sign. Hopefully that meant he is working harder.
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Rance was fantastic today, he run all over the ground is fantastic. He played on the wing for a while also and has a great motor.
He attitude towards footy is fantastic and he is a great leader.
Collard played most of the game in on the ball or wing today and was pretty good. He is getting better at handballing off when under pressure instead of taking on the man. I really think that his ability and talent have hindered his development as a player, i think he may have done it too easy as a younger player and hence has kept some bad habits. I think we really need to persist with him and he could turn into a real freaky player.
Collins worked well through the middle and Connors had a great first half and didnt do a great deal in the second. Looked a class about though, especially in the first half.
Dave Gourdis continues to come along as a key defender, his strength and pace is a real plus and his defence efforts continue to improve by the week. Wouldnt surprise to see him push for senior selection soon.
For the Coburg boys, Fort Caruso responded well to being dropped and played a very solid game on the ball. Benny Clifton was good once again on a wing and is proving a very handy player for the 2's. Big Fossie dominated around the ground in the ruck and Nick Lynch and Joey Gazzo continued their goal kicking spree's.
On a side note, John Morris has broken his foot (on friday) in two places and will be out for atleast 8 weeks. On a positive note this should allow Rance to cement a spot in the seniors.
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Rance was fantastic today, he run all over the ground is fantastic. He played on the wing for a while also and has a great motor.
He attitude towards footy is fantastic and he is a great leader.
Collard played most of the game in on the ball or wing today and was pretty good. He is getting better at handballing off when under pressure instead of taking on the man. I really think that his ability and talent have hindered his development as a player, i think he may have done it too easy as a younger player and hence has kept some bad habits. I think we really need to persist with him and he could turn into a real freaky player.
Collins worked well through the middle and Connors had a great first half and didnt do a great deal in the second. Looked a class about though, especially in the first half.
Dave Gourdis continues to come along as a key defender, his strength and pace is a real plus and his defence efforts continue to improve by the week. Wouldnt surprise to see him push for senior selection soon.
For the Coburg boys, Fort Caruso responded well to being dropped and played a very solid game on the ball. Benny Clifton was good once again on a wing and is proving a very handy player for the 2's. Big Fossie dominated around the ground in the ruck and Nick Lynch and Joey Gazzo continued their goal kicking spree's.
On a side note, John Morris has broken his foot (on friday) in two places and will be out for atleast 8 weeks. On a positive note this should allow Rance to cement a spot in the seniors.
Great report mate.
Wasn't expecting Rance on a wing
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He didnt play the whole game on the wing, probably most of a qtr i would say.
Collins will be close to getting back in the Seniors, he needs to be able to play consistant footy for the seniors before he can lay claims for a Richmond spot.
I think they obviously rate him at Richmond and are trying to encourage him along by naming him as an emergency, he certainly has some upside.
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Forget about Cogs his finished :lol maybe smokey_58au can go down the club to rub his hammy for him cause he told me he was superfit & be running the seniors soon :lol
You suffering from a little bit of alcoholic dementia TM? Reread the posts and point out to me where I said either of these things.
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Rance was fantastic today, he run all over the ground is fantastic. He played on the wing for a while also and has a great motor.
He attitude towards footy is fantastic and he is a great leader.
Collard played most of the game in on the ball or wing today and was pretty good. He is getting better at handballing off when under pressure instead of taking on the man. I really think that his ability and talent have hindered his development as a player, i think he may have done it too easy as a younger player and hence has kept some bad habits. I think we really need to persist with him and he could turn into a real freaky player.
Collins worked well through the middle and Connors had a great first half and didnt do a great deal in the second. Looked a class about though, especially in the first half.
Dave Gourdis continues to come along as a key defender, his strength and pace is a real plus and his defence efforts continue to improve by the week. Wouldnt surprise to see him push for senior selection soon.
For the Coburg boys, Fort Caruso responded well to being dropped and played a very solid game on the ball. Benny Clifton was good once again on a wing and is proving a very handy player for the 2's. Big Fossie dominated around the ground in the ruck and Nick Lynch and Joey Gazzo continued their goal kicking spree's.
On a side note, John Morris has broken his foot (on friday) in two places and will be out for atleast 8 weeks. On a positive note this should allow Rance to cement a spot in the seniors.
thank you once again tfl for your reports from Coburg.
your comments along with those from MT make this forum so enlightening for those who live away from the scene.
a big :thumbsup to you both
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Cotchin is a couple of weeks away from AFL footy according to David King tonight on 3aw.
Great report by the way TFL :cheers
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Just looking forward to the next couple of VFL weeks. No VFL footy next week and then following week the Coburg ressies have the bye. What will that mean for our RFC boys especially those playing with the ressies? It's not ideal to have fit RFC players without a game for 3 weeks :-\.
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Any sign of young Rhett Jordon playing for the twos?
:)
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No sign of Rhett, he was watching on Sunday but there are people missing out who are ahead of him so it is looking unlikely that he will play many games barring injury.
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No sign of Rhett, he was watching on Sunday but there are people missing out who are ahead of him so it is looking unlikely that he will play many games barring injury.
thanks
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Awesome report TFL :bow
BTW, how did Chris Stewart go in your opinion, personally think he looks a likely type and perhaps a rookie-list candidate
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Actually it's surprising how fast and agile Rance is for a bloke of his size - very solid unit for 18. Ditto Gourdis
I liked what i saw yesterday morning ;)
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Match Report Vs. Box Hill Round 5 2008
coburgtigers.com.au
FRIDAY 25TH APRIL 2008 – ANZAC DAY
SENIORS
The Burgers faced up against a winless Box Hill Hawks side this week at ABD Group Stadium on Anzac Day. A large crowd built on what was a fine weathered day and a good hard game of football was on show.
After a rusty first three quarters of football the Tigers put their foot down in the last term and ran away with a solid twelve point victory.
Unlike previous weeks Coburg got off to a slow start, allowing the Hawks to kick five goals in the first term, scoring only three themselves.
Jarrod Silvester continued on last weeks excellent form with a very solid game holding up the backline, and on some occasions leaving his man to be the third man up helping out team mates.
¼ Time: Coburg 3.2 (20) Box Hill 5.3 (33)
Joel Bowden again was a prominent player for the Burgers. He played mainly across the half forward line and finished the match with two majors. Kayne Pettifer was the Tigers other main man up forward finishing with three goals for the game.
The Burgers had more of the ball in the second term, but unlike the Hawks who kicked 3 straight goals, the Tigers were a little inaccurate slotting three goals-four behinds.
Daniel Jackson was a focal point around the ground and the big man took multiple contested marks again and used the ball very efficiently.
½ Time: Coburg 5.6 (36) Box Hill 8.3 (51)
Greg Tivendale was a great target running out of defence and collected a bundle of possessions on the wing, finishing the match with 30 touches.
The Burgers backline was fantastic in the third term. Everyone worked for each other and the midfielders ran back well to crowd the Hawks forward line, making it impossible for them to score. Coburg only added two majors themselves but ended the quarter only ten points behind.
¾ Time: Coburg 7.8 (50) Box Hill 9.6 (60)
It wasn’t until midway through the last term that Coburg were in front for the first time in the match. Burgers coach Jade Rawlings was proud of his boys to keep fighting all day long. “We got a bit of momentum in the last quarter and we got a big lift from some of our senior players” Rawlings said.
Nick Carnell and Paul Shelton were simply awesome, putting their body on the line on many occasions and winning the hardball in the packs. Both were crucial in the last term with fantastic clearance work.
Nick Carnell won the Gibbs-Lines Medal for best on ground.
Coburg won the Anzac Cup.
Next weekend both the seniors and reserves will not be playing due to the split round.
Coburg are at home again on Saturday 10th May 2008 starting at 1.10pm, against Collingwood. This is also a televised game. The Reserves will have a week off with a bye.
Coburg Tigers 3.2 5.6 7.8 11.13 (79)
Box Hill 5.3 8.3 9.6 10.7 (67)
Goal Kickers: K. Pettifer 3, J. Bowden 2, G. Tivendale, D. Jackson, N. Carnell, T. Casserly, C. Hughes, G. Carrick
Best Players: N. Carnell, J. Silvester, P. Shelton, D. Jackson, G. Tivendale, J. Bowden
RESERVES
The Reserves made it four wins from four games with a belting of Box Hill by 104 points on Sunday. Nick Lynch continued his fine goal kicking form with another five majors, while ten other Burger players contributed with at least one goal each.
The game was clearly over at half time as Coburg had piled on 15 majors to the Hawks measly 2.
Alex Rance was again in excellent form collecting best on ground, while Jo Gazzo, Daniel Connors and Fort Caruso all played impressive games,
and will be hoping for a re-call back into the seniors in the coming weeks.
The Reserves now sit on top of the ladder with a very healthy percentage of 218.
Coburg Tigers 7.6 15.7 17.7 23.12 (150)
Box Hill Hawks 1.0 2.4 4.8 6.10 (46)
Goal Kickers: N. Lynch 5, J. Gazzo 4, D. Connors 3, F. Caruso 2, B. Clifton 2, D. Gourdis 2, P. Currie, A. Collins, J. Jones, A. Rance, C. Collard
Best Players: A. Rance, S. Foster, C. Collard, F. Caruso, N. Lynch, A. Collins
Source: coburgtigers.com.au
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Match Report Vs. Box Hill Round 5 2008
coburgtigers.com.au
FRIDAY 25TH APRIL 2008 – ANZAC DAY
SENIORS
Daniel Jackson was a focal point around the ground and the big man took multiple contested marks again and used the ball very efficiently.
Since when has DJ been "the big man" at 188cm and 90 kg?
:thumbsup
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Awesome report TFL :bow
BTW, how did Chris Stewart go in your opinion, personally think he looks a likely type and perhaps a rookie-list candidate
Bluey Chris Stewart has a lot of talent, i think his work rate though is very questionable.
He plays it pretty tough and is a good size, good mark and good kick for goal.
You may know better than myself but i heard that when he played under 18's he was very highly rated but then was overlooked, i believe mainly due to his work rate. He can certainly be a little lazy at times and looks very laconic out on the ground.
He can certainly play though.
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Some great news on our youngsters.
Ta for the reports all. :)
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Match Report Vs. Box Hill Round 5 2008
coburgtigers.com.au
FRIDAY 25TH APRIL 2008 – ANZAC DAY
SENIORS
Daniel Jackson was a focal point around the ground and the big man took multiple contested marks again and used the ball very efficiently.
Since when has DJ been "the big man" at 188cm and 90 kg?
:thumbsup
90kg is one of the most heavy players on our list.
Infact, outside our 8 biggest ruckman and KPP - Jacko is the next highest weight, alongside Bowden who is a similar size and wa holding down CHB for us.
Jackson, Tuck, Johnson, Deledio are our biggest body mids at the current.
Newman is 5kgs less.
Polo, White, Tambling, Connors, Raines, Cotchin, Morton are 10 kgs lighter than Jackson! Another pre-season or 2 will do them wonders. Still only 19-22 age bracket.