One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: wayne on June 05, 2008, 05:02:32 PM
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Richmond
B: Jake King, Will Thursfield, Chris Newman
HB: Jordan McMahon, Graham Polak, Kelvin Moore
C: Matthew Richardson, Shane Tuck, Matt White
HF: Kayne Pettifer, Joel Bowden, Richard Tambling
F: Shane Edwards, Jay Schulz, Nathan Brown
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Brett Deledio, Nathan Foley
I/C: Trent Cotchin, Greg Tivendale, Adam Pattison, Luke McGuane
EMG: Mitch Morton, Jack Riewoldt, Daniel Connors
In: Graham Polak, Luke McGuane, Greg Tivendale
Out: Kane Johnson (knee), Jack Riewoldt, Chris Hyde
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tivendale for hyde. now thats what i call looking to the future ::)
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Not happy Jack got dropped. He was far from the worst against the swans and is a big part of future of club. Please somebody tell me we are foxing, that there will be a late change and he realy wil be in team.
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Wouldnt anyone with ""half a brain "" play Morton for Riewoldt. :o
Pettifer ::) How does he still get a game. Play the kids please.
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just as i expected..
its no wonder we get laughed at by all clubs
hyde for tivendale.....hahahahaha
masterstroke by TW- gee we didn't see that inclusion coming.
why the stuff is connors a emergency. play him for crying out loud, whats wrong with these idiots
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In: Graham Polak, Luke McGuane, Greg Tivendale
Out: Kane Johnson (knee), Jack Riewoldt, Chris Hyde
The Hyde-Tivs turnstile continues :P. Plough kept his word on 3XX about Tivs coming in if Sugar gets injured :-\.
Not sure why Jack a forward pays for us being pumped in the midfield against the Swans ???.
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we're obviously tanking.
Be happy.
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I think it's Tiv for Johnson ;D
No surprise with Hyde being dropped but certainly surprised about Jack :-\
Cannot not see Joel lining up at CHF :help
Interesting that we bring in the bigger bodies against a "bigger and more mature" Adelaide. :P
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The Hyde out Tivendale in or Tivendale out Hyde in pattern has continued. It been in place all season.
Pettifer retains his place ::)
Surely a few of Jack Mitch Polo Connors could get a game sooner or later rather than playing the cloggers up of our list like Petts Tivs and co. If we are to lose which more than likely we are we may as well do so playing the kids and getting the games into them at the highest level in terms of their development rather than continually giving AFL lifelines to blokes that have failed the system time and time again.
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Adelaide team
B: Graham Johncock, Ben Rutten, Nathan Bassett
HB: Nathan Van Berlo, Nathan Bock, Michael Doughty
C: Andrew McLeod, Tyson Edwards, Chris Knights
HF: Brent Reilly, Scott Stevens, Richard Douglas
F: Jason Porplyzia, Kurt Tippett, Bernie Vince
Foll: Ivan Maric, Simon Goodwin, Scott Thompson
I/C: Robert Shirley, David Mackay, Ken McGregor, Luke Jericho
In: Jericho, McGregor
Out: Brett Burton (susp), Jonathon Griffin (hip)
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The forecast is saying 14 degrees and possible showers. So there still might be a late change.
Pettifer retains his place ::)
6 tackles must have saved Petts.
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Oh my gosh :(
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haha on the money again
Jack got the ass looks weak as l said does nothing at AFL level
Hyde well the coach has to blame someone for his mistakes :rollin Scapegoat for Wallace's bad matchup >:( what a sad prick Wallace is.
Tivendale ;D :thumbsup knew his was coming back GO get them Tivs :lol
Club is in damage mode ;D Wallace will play Tivs on McLeod :lol
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Tivs inclusion highlights the Richmond criteria for selection.
It is clear now that sustained quality form for Coburg will get you a spot if one opens up in the team regardless of your age, experience or future potential.
Until now I had always believed that the selectors look at performance and potential when choosing. Therefore if Tiv and Polo had both been named in the best for a number of weeks then Polo would get the call up over Tiv because of his potential.
Tiv has be the standout player for Coburg of late so, on performance alone, he deserves his place. On the other hand, if we are looking beyond the moment, I think his inclusion over Polo or Connors is a mistake as it is shortsighted.
I agree we need to provide incentive for effort and performance, and we need to encourage competition for spots in the team to ensure all players across the list never take their place for granted.
I think TW is right in not just handing places in the team to young players like he did to Lids and Bling. Using Geelong as a model and even Collingwood (I hate having to use them as a model of success! :banghead), players are never included in the team until they are more than ready to play. Take the Pies Nathan Brown (No 6 2006 draft pick) for example, he sat his first year out in the 2s before being elevated and made an immediate impact.
But if the performance and form of two players are close then I think it is a mistake not to look at their potential. Tiv is a good average player but Polo, Connors and Collins could be great players and are a very good chance of being part of our future structure.
I am fearful we are reverting back to our sub standard team. I would much rather lose with a young team who fight than lose with the same bunch of meaningless possession acquiring seniors. We were looking good because of the 1% and in the past players like Bowden, Petts and Tiv have been terrible with these team orientated elements.
IMHO It is a mistake to elevate Tiv.
Stripes
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Damn straight from the few games ive watched tivs play at coburg he racks up the possies and plays great he truly deserves his spot back in the side but for who?
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as long as Tivs kicks the ball long into the forward line l be happy :thumbsup
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Tivs inclusion highlights the Richmond criteria for selection.
It is clear now that sustained quality form for Coburg will get you a spot if one opens up in the team regardless of your age, experience or future potential.
Until now I had always believed that the selectors look at performance and potential when choosing. Therefore if Tiv and Polo had both been named in the best for a number of weeks then Polo would get the call up over Tiv because of his potential.
Tiv has be the standout player for Coburg of late so, on performance alone, he deserves his place. On the other hand, if we are looking beyond the moment, I think his inclusion over Polo or Connors is a mistake as it is shortsighted.
I agree we need to provide incentive for effort and performance, and we need to encourage competition for spots in the team to ensure all players across the list never take their place for granted.
I think TW is right in not just handing places in the team to young players like he did to Lids and Bling. Using Geelong as a model and even Collingwood (I hate having to use them as a model of success! :banghead), players are never included in the team until they are more than ready to play. Take the Pies Nathan Brown (No 6 2006 draft pick) for example, he sat his first year out in the 2s before being elevated and made an immediate impact.
But if the performance and form of two players are close then I think it is a mistake not to look at their potential. Tiv is a good average player but Polo, Connors and Collins could be great players and are a very good chance of being part of our future structure.
I am fearful we are reverting back to our sub standard team. I would much rather lose with a young team who fight than lose with the same bunch of meaningless possession acquiring seniors. We were looking good because of the 1% and in the past players like Bowden, Petts and Tiv have been terrible with these team orientated elements.
IMHO It is a mistake to elevate Tiv.
Stripes
Agree. We'll also see a return of the giant U-turns when he's on the wrong foot which allows oppositions time to get numbers back :-\.
I bet the argument from the club will be that we lost Sugar to injury and so we needed to maintain the same number of "experienced" mids by bringing Tivs in. The problem with that argument is Tivs doesn't play the same role as Sugar in the midfield so what's the point. You're better off going with say a Polo as whether it works or not at least your looking towards the future.