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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 22, 2008, 10:29:05 PM
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As mentioned on BF, Wallace will be in Footy Classified's hot seat tomorrow (Monday) night.
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Two wins in a row with the big centenary game against the cheaters coming up. Could TW have timed it better.
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What sort of questions will they ask him?
What sort of questions would you ask him?
Stripes
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watch Caro clam up ;D
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Coming up now.
Hutchy saying "Mark Williams snub of Joel Bowden"
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Hutchy saying "Mark Williams snub of Joel Bowden"
Williams didn't give Joel any votes in the coaches votes. Sour grapes :wallywink.
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Terry's neck scares me. :lol
Speaking well though.
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Cant complain about that.
Good question from Arch that made Terry have a um and ah. :rollin
Good interview but should have found a way to give the century year a plug. ;) :thumbsup
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Lol.
What did Caro just say?
THere are still problems at Richmond but it's "not Terry."
Who could Caro be referring to? ;) :lol
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At least that question from Glenn is a genuine insight on what other clubs perceive us as in recent times. Made Terry aquirm slightly.
Overall a reasnonable interview. Terry was very coherent however Caro could have involved herself more and what she did ask seemed to be based on things she has read on Richmond Forums. :lol
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Summary
* Lyon said Terry's appareance had been booked for a couple of weeks. Plough told the boys at the airport winning would do him a favour.
* Thought it was in safe hands as the ball went near Joel.
* Votes - We as coaches look more at our own side but Joel was the standout in Terry's opinion. Williams gave three Port players votes.
* We've played Joel forward at Coburg but we'll play him where we think best. We had Joel ready just in case Chad Cornes got out of control. Not worried about Joel when we sent him back to Coburg but just redefined his role. Our sides haven't been great tackling sides. Never said you won't get a game if you have no tackles. What he said he's said is if you want to put all your eggs in the offensive side you better be exceptional at it.
* Terry said he's been in the past more in the Eade/Knights attacking gamestyle as that's what footy he believes people was to see but you've also got to win games.
* Taking out last year (shocking run with injuries like Collingwood in 2005), been competitive the other 2 years. When you've had a disaster in your 3rd year there's pressure.
* We've developing a side to be on the verge of ready in 2 years [paraphased that bit]. We had the most 21 or under players on the weekend (with Collingwood). Compared us to Carlton [I think he meant list wise and where we've come from in terms of rebuilding].
* Never had a edict from the board or CEO to take a backward step from the media. He's own choice.
* We've put more games in under 23's on our list than any other side.
* It varies how long you give the kids. There were people saying after 3 years Cleve wasn't going to make it. It all depends on the players. Believes it's a 4 year structure for most players. Believes Meyer and JON will get there. Meyer had a hip injury, JON is just 20.
* Archer said there's signs we are finally playing for each other after years of playing for themselves when it got tough. Plough mentioned the age gap. He said our leadership group had brought the group together (going down to Bridge Rd etc).
* Caro asked that supporters can't understand some recruiting decision from 5 years before Terry came to last year in terms of McMahon. Terry responded by saying some people only want to see the bad things in some players. Said where do you want to start ... okay let's start with last one McMahon. Jordie was crucial in our win on Saturday. He's run and carry was vital to our team but some people only see a couple of errors here and there.
* Yes certainly we can make the 8. We played 7 out of the top 8 in the first 11 rounds. Now play 7 of the bottom 8 in the last 11 games.
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Caro said afterwards that talk of getting rid of Wallace this year was stupid. There's still problems down at that club but Terry isn't one of them. She said "the club is rebuilding its soul".
She also said she's not at war with Miller when quizzed by the others. Hutchy and Archer thought she went soft on Terry whereas Lyon thought it went okay.
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Hutchy saying "Mark Williams snub of Joel Bowden"
Williams didn't give Joel any votes in the coaches votes. Sour grapes :wallywink.
Only two Tigers received votes...
Hughes 7 votes
Joel 5 (all from Wallace)
The other 3 were Port players (Brogan, Motlop and someone else).
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A nice soft interview. Once Terry gave an answer to a question they just moved onto the next topic rather than grilling him like they could have. If it was Miller Caro would have gone for his throat lol.
From what Plough said I think we can say Danny, JON and Cass will still be at Punt Rd next year. That's the biggest thign I got out of the interview along with him openly saying we're going for it as far as making the finals.
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Hutchy saying "Mark Williams snub of Joel Bowden"
Williams didn't give Joel any votes in the coaches votes. Sour grapes :wallywink.
Only two Tigers received votes...
Hughes 7 votes
Joel 5 (all from Wallace)
The other 3 were Port players (Brogan, Motlop and someone else).
They only show the Top 5
There weren't 30 votes listed there as Hughes was the top with 7, it must have been fairly spread out
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Yep got the impression that kids are that kids and they have time on their side. Garry tried to grill him slightly on the progress of Danny Meyer and JON as first round draftees and Terry was just as adamant saying all clubs have failed in first choice selections and that in the case of JON he was only 20 years of age. Exactly the kids will be at Punt Rd next year no doubt judging on the context of the interview. Fact that we won in Adelaide against a team we have struggled with over there made the air more ambient and light and hence there was no pressure on Terry and hence the panel was not in a mood to send a bloke to the gallows.
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Hutchy saying "Mark Williams snub of Joel Bowden"
Williams didn't give Joel any votes in the coaches votes. Sour grapes :wallywink.
Only two Tigers received votes...
Hughes 7 votes
Joel 5 (all from Wallace)
The other 3 were Port players (Brogan, Motlop and someone else).
They only show the Top 5
There weren't 30 votes listed there as Hughes was the top with 7, it must have been fairly spread out
Indeed. Footyheads usually posts the full votes ( used to at least) but yes seems a well spread amount. I'd be interested to see the full votes as to who were Mark Williams top 5/ :whistle
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Sour grapes by Chocco. Remember in 2003 the week Captain Blood passed away and we played Port on the Sunday at the Dome. After they beat us he instructed the Port players not to sing the song after their win claiming that they didn't need to after beating teams of the ilk of us. As if victory against the Tigers were a God given right, That's why I was so satisfied in watching him try and justify his teams failure in 2003 especially after the same thing occurred in 2002 when they finished top and Sydney beat them in their home Qualifying final and then The Skunks in the Prelim. Hated it when they won the flag in 2004 and ruined what would have been a wonderful achievement by the Lions even though pound for pound they probably were better than Brissie who merely knew how to win under finals pressure.
Obviously losing hurt but the fact that it was us and it was us that ended his teams run this season hurt a lot more and obviously he has some huge disrespect of for us as a club or a team and it shows whenever we beat them. Let it be a lesson to him and his footy club to be humble in victory and let him be more acknowledging of other teams. Here's to some more wins against the Bogans in the future especially if all these kids development starts fast tracking and we become more competitive and dangerous. More pain for you and your mob Chocco. :lol
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Sour grapes by Chocco. Remember in 2003 the week Captain Blood passed away and we played Port on the Sunday at the Dome. After they beat us he instructed the Port players not to sing the song after their win claiming that they didn't need to after beating teams of the ilk of us. As if victory against the Tigers were a God given right, That's why I was so satisfied in watching him try and justify his teams failure in 2003 especially after the same thing occurred in 2002 when they finished top and Sydney beat them in their home Qualifying final and then The Skunks in the Prelim. Hated it when they won the flag in 2004 and ruined what would have been a wonderful achievement by the Lions even though pound for pound they probably were better than Brissie who merely knew how to win under finals pressure.
Obviously losing hurt but the fact that it was us and it was us that ended his teams run this season hurt a lot more and obviously he has some huge disrespect of for us as a club or a team and it shows whenever we beat them. Let it be a lesson to him and his footy club to be humble in victory and let him be more acknowledging of other teams. Here's to some more wins against the Bogans in the future especially if all these kids development starts fast tracking and we become more competitive and dangerous. More pain for you and your mob Chocco. :lol
Love it. :clapping
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Terry's neck scares me. :lol
:rollin
I noticed his neck too - very red and veiny! :-X
I learnt nothing new from the interview. TW was able to answer every question as he wanted and sometimes his replies didn't even appear to be answering the question at all. I am impressed by his devotion to his plan and the kids in general. Will be interesting to see who is delisted considering this at years end.
Stripes
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Garry tried to grill him slightly on the progress of Danny Meyer and JON as first round draftees and Terry was just as adamant saying all clubs have failed in first choice selections and that in the case of JON he was only 20 years of age.
The reason why we get grilled more than others is because of our situation we need every single draft pick to make it.
The Hawks don't get grilled over Dowler, the Cats over Tenace, the Dogs over Wight, the Pies over Egan because the teams are performing well and have done for the last 2 years.
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Caro said afterwards that talk of getting rid of Wallace this year was stupid. There's still problems down at that club but Terry isn't one of them. She said "the club is rebuilding its soul".
Yeah she waffled something about not being at "war" with Miller. The problem in Caro's view was/has been the recruiting which Miller was in charge in and now he isn't :-\ and therefore the war that she isn't having has been WON ::)
I also thought that Tezza's reply about kids needing at least 4 years in the system was a good one. Hopefully takes the pressure off some of the kids. Along with pointing our JON's just turned 20, he threw Lids in there too saying he's just turned 21 - now that is scary ;D
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"the club is rebuilding its soul" - Caroline Wilson
that is spot on. great quote and so very true.
:)
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Sour grapes by Chocco.
I'm sorry but it's not sour grapes. You can all circle jerk over Bowden's game as much as you like. The fact is for all his disposals, he wasn't that damaging. I doubt any club would trade for Bowden, he'd be a PSD selection at best.
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Sour grapes by Chocco.
I'm sorry but it's not sour grapes. You can all circle jerk over Bowden's game as much as you like. The fact is for all his disposals, he wasn't that damaging. I doubt any club would trade for Bowden, he'd be a PSD selection at best.
infamy
I actually think that your case would have been better served in Williams had given Joel 3 or 2 votes, but to give him ZERO surely says more about him and his attitude to being beaten by a team that he clearly doesn't rate, than it does about Joel's game.
The fact that the panel raised it even before the votes were given surely puts it into perspective - it was a bizarre non-vote. How could anybody have three Port players ahead of him, and give Brogan top votes in a losing side?
As to to your comment about trade value - you could say that about virtually all 30 year old players, doesn't make them any less valuable to their current club.
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Video of Terry's interview......
http://ninemsn.video.msn.com/v/en-au/v.htm?f=39&g=B3B8C8A9-4848-4116-B3DD-3136834C4329&p=AUsport_AUAFL&t=m2399 (http://ninemsn.video.msn.com/v/en-au/v.htm?f=39&g=B3B8C8A9-4848-4116-B3DD-3136834C4329&p=AUsport_AUAFL&t=m2399)
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Sour grapes by Chocco.
I'm sorry but it's not sour grapes. You can all circle jerk over Bowden's game as much as you like. The fact is for all his disposals, he wasn't that damaging. I doubt any club would trade for Bowden, he'd be a PSD selection at best.
infamy
I actually think that your case would have been better served in Williams had given Joel 3 or 2 votes, but to give him ZERO surely says more about him and his attitude to being beaten by a team that he clearly doesn't rate, than it does about Joel's game.
The fact that the panel raised it even before the votes were given surely puts it into perspective - it was a bizarre non-vote. How could anybody have three Port players ahead of him, and give Brogan top votes in a losing side?
As to to your comment about trade value - you could say that about virtually all 30 year old players, doesn't make them any less valuable to their current club.
I'm sorry, but I just can't agree, if you simply don't rate a player who plays unaccountable football in defence then it doesn't matter how many disposals and marks he gets, you still don't have to rate it.
Personally I'd have given Bowden 1 or 2 votes, but that's it
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"the club is rebuilding its soul" - Caroline Wilson
that is spot on. great quote and so very true.
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And has been since GM/TW came on the scene - not that Caro would ever ever admit to that.
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"the club is rebuilding its soul" - Caroline Wilson
that is spot on. great quote and so very true.
:)
And has been since GM/TW came on the scene - not that Caro would ever ever admit to that.
Soldier Caro would admit Terry has but not her enemy and war combatant G MIller ;D
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yep Caro loves the forums ;D dont ya Caro ;D
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Sour grapes by Chocco. Remember in 2003 the week Captain Blood passed away and we played Port on the Sunday at the Dome. After they beat us he instructed the Port players not to sing the song after their win claiming that they didn't need to after beating teams of the ilk of us. As if victory against the Tigers were a God given right, That's why I was so satisfied in watching him try and justify his teams failure in 2003 especially after the same thing occurred in 2002 when they finished top and Sydney beat them in their home Qualifying final and then The Skunks in the Prelim. Hated it when they won the flag in 2004 and ruined what would have been a wonderful achievement by the Lions even though pound for pound they probably were better than Brissie who merely knew how to win under finals pressure.
Obviously losing hurt but the fact that it was us and it was us that ended his teams run this season hurt a lot more and obviously he has some huge disrespect of for us as a club or a team and it shows whenever we beat them. Let it be a lesson to him and his footy club to be humble in victory and let him be more acknowledging of other teams. Here's to some more wins against the Bogans in the future especially if all these kids development starts fast tracking and we become more competitive and dangerous. More pain for you and your mob Chocco. :lol
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Yep never forget Williams saying before that game in 2003 that training was more value to them than playing us. Well whenever you mouth off something stupid and disrespectful it eventually comes back to bite ya :wallywink.
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Sour grapes by Chocco.
I'm sorry but it's not sour grapes. You can all circle jerk over Bowden's game as much as you like. The fact is for all his disposals, he wasn't that damaging. I doubt any club would trade for Bowden, he'd be a PSD selection at best.
infamy
I actually think that your case would have been better served in Williams had given Joel 3 or 2 votes, but to give him ZERO surely says more about him and his attitude to being beaten by a team that he clearly doesn't rate, than it does about Joel's game.
The fact that the panel raised it even before the votes were given surely puts it into perspective - it was a bizarre non-vote. How could anybody have three Port players ahead of him, and give Brogan top votes in a losing side?
As to to your comment about trade value - you could say that about virtually all 30 year old players, doesn't make them any less valuable to their current club.
I'm sorry, but I just can't agree, if you simply don't rate a player who plays unaccountable football in defence then it doesn't matter how many disposals and marks he gets, you still don't have to rate it.
Personally I'd have given Bowden 1 or 2 votes, but that's it
If the coach tells you play as an offensive half back and you then get 39 disposals of which half I'd say were not chips around the back line, the result is still about 20 possessions that were very damaging how have you not done your job, its not his decision how he plays, its how Tezza tells him how and where to play.
Bowden set up some simply first class forward thrusts last week, no other player could've done it better than he did, simply on fire, he didn't even miss a target. :clapping