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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: RonBranton on September 02, 2004, 11:17:31 AM
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Schwab talked with (the great RFC man) KB for about 10 minutes this morning.
He started be pointing out that the loss for this year is now estimated to be 2.4m - some 20% above what was being predicted only a month ago. His group wants access to "the books" and CC has not yet allowed that.
He described CC as the worst president that RFC had ever had, both on and off the field.
KB asked him if he really ever believed that CC would leave voluntarilly. Schwab answered by saying that Daphne did and at the time his situation was better than Casey's. The current situation is worse than when the Save Our Skins program was run, according to Schwab.
CC is asking for the RFC community to trust him - again - but he has "no skill base" with which to solve the problems. He repeated that there had been no disclosure yet regarding financials.
KB pointed out that the AFL had expressed their satisfaction with the RFC business plan. Schwab argued that the AFL should not take sides in these cases and that he was confidant that his group could build a good relationship with the AFL.
Schwab said that the RFC should be better than where we are. We had fallen away in every area except 2004 membership which was up but still nothing to be proud of. He pointed out that 27,000 members was still below the last year of Daphne and that in recent years Collingwood and Carlton had increased by 5 to 10 thousand and that our membership should be 40,000. He said we should not congratulate ourselves on 27,000 members.
So far it had just been sumarizing why the current position under CC was unacceptabl;e - KB asked him "where to now"
Schwab said that if CC did not agree to stand down his group would push for an EGM in December, expand their group from 7 to 9, and take on the existing board.
KB thanked him for his input and told him that he will see him at the club for a drink and a chat with the players as usual next week, and looked forward to having a dance with froars at the B&F.
(all but the last sentence is true - ;)
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Ronnie is turning into the OER comedian :lol
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He started be pointing out that the loss for this year is now estimated to be 2.4m - some 20% above what was being predicted only a month ago. His group wants access to "the books" and CC has not yet allowed that.
Big bad meany.
He described CC as the worst president that RFC had ever had, both on and off the field.
Yeah, so there. ::)
If you haven’t got something more to offer, other than “we’re better than them and that’s why you should vote for us” then you are seriously kidding yourselves.
With campaigns like this, you obviously can’t offer RFC anything, but it sounds like you could make it good as a politician.
KB pointed out that the AFL had expressed their satisfaction with the RFC business plan. Schwab argued that the AFL should not take sides in these cases and that he was confidant that his group could build a good relationship with the AFL.
Why not, coz it doesn't suit you? Bullies they are those AFL people.
Schwab said that the RFC should be better than where we are.
Why can you do something about it now when you couldn't do anything about it when you were already on the Board? :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Schwab said that if CC did not agree to stand down his group would push for an EGM in December, expand their group from 7 to 9, and take on the existing board.
I’m confused. Isn’t this what was happening anyway? Coz, did they or did they not agree to hold the meeting in December instead of January. :-\
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KB thanked him for his input and told him that he will see him at the club for a drink and a chat with the players as usual next week, and looked forward to having a dance with froars at the B&F.
Ah, but he's not the one i'm saving the last dance for
idiot lol :rollin
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Ronnie an idiot Froars?, thats a bit strong ! Confused and misled, maybe ;)
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Umm, our swear monitor changes words - wasn't exactly the word i put lol
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Really Brendan Schwab never ceases to amaze me with his continual drivel.
Mickey Nuff Nuff take a bow you clown.
But if Brendan can repeat the same stuff over and over and over again so can I
Schwab talked with (the great RFC man) KB for about 10 minutes this morning.
He started be pointing out that the loss for this year is now estimated to be 2.4m - some 20% above what was being predicted only a month ago. His group wants access to "the books" and CC has not yet allowed that.
Wow! I am staggerd I really am. ::) The fact the papers have been saying for months that the loss "will be at least $2 million" it shouldn't come as any great surprise that it will probaly be worse - fact Mickey - our crowds dropped away in the second half of the season - for a Club that did a lot of its forecasting based on crowd figures (you and Welsh were part of that board remember that signed off on the 2004 budget) then what do you expect.
He described CC as the worst president that RFC had ever had, both on and off the field.
And IMO Brendan is one of the worse directors we have ever had.
He had so much respect for the position that his average attendance at board meetings over his time on the board is 8.5. But you see Brendan will tell you he was present for 11 meetings in 2003. What he doesn't tell you that his record in 2002 was 9 and 2001, 8.
KB asked him if he really ever believed that CC would leave voluntarilly. Schwab answered by saying that Daphne did and at the time his situation was better than Casey's. The current situation is worse than when the Save Our Skins program was run, according to Schwab.
Glad you bought this up Brendan. Leon Daphne said that his tenure as president was linked to Gieschen's tenure as coach. He decided to resign as he said he would when Gieschen "quit" - despite a lot of people pleading for him to stay. Leon Daphne is a man of great honour and integrity. There's a lesson there don't you reckon Brendan.
Perhaps you can ask your finance man Mike Humphris about the pre-SOS days Brendan - he was there then. Or has that been wiped from history too - like your previous stint on the board seems to have been in your mind at least.
CC is asking for the RFC community to trust him - again - but he has "no skill base" with which to solve the problems.
Hmmm no skills - wonder how he attracted Greg Miller?
I'll tell you something Brendan - I trust Casey a helluva lot more that I trust you
KB pointed out that the AFL had expressed their satisfaction with the RFC business plan. Schwab argued that the AFL should not take sides in these cases and that he was confidant that his group could build a good relationship with the AFL.
To have good relationship with the AFL - I reckon they would need to have some respect for you - think about that.
As for taking sides :'(- fair dinkum - this isn't high school - (who's my best friend this week )
The AFL have a responsibility to ensure that Clubs are being run properly - do you really think if things were grim as Brendan keeps going on about- they would have granted the re-direction order?
He said we should not congratulate ourselves on 27,000 members.
Oh I think we should - alot of people thought we'd be lucky to get 20,000 members in 2004.
The more this clown speaks the more I know I am making the right decision in not voting for this ticket. Instead of being called the Alternative Ticket - they should be call the UNACCEPTABLE TICKET
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One thing, should be an interesting evening at the B& F :o
Wonder who goes and who wont turn up, If Mickey turns up, he would need to be wearing his Mickey mouse ear muffs ! :lol
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LMAO@ A ticket that hid behind a member.
For the first time in a long time the club seems to be doing everything right while schlobb
carries on with the same stats and rant..
Even if the egm comes to life it's hardly a competitive atmosphere.
I'd like to see a 2nd,serious ticket put in a bid.
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I agree Ox. Twiddledee vs Twiddledum at the minute.
I find it amusing Schwab claiming we are in a worse position now than during the S.O.S. period when he also claims he hasn't had access to the books to know ::). Add to that despite the loss we will definitely still have a club when October 31st, 2004 comes around. That wasn't the case before Oct 31st, 1990. If we didn't raise $1 million in the two months before that date it was no more RFC. A loss even a large one as we had this year isn't a debt Brendan ::).
As for the comment we should have a membership of 40,000. Well DER Brendan! Talk about telling us things blind freddy knows :sleep. If we weren't absolutely crap on-field for the vast majority of the past 20+ years (not just the last 5) we could have had that many members. Guess who was on the board for 5-6 years of that period. Once again Schwab conveniently trying to avoid his responsibility in all this. I could once again go through all the stupid decisions the board, on which Schwab was on, made and agreed to but we all know what they were. That comment is also insulting to work Trent Jacobs in his first year and others at the Club put in to increase our membership by 10% despite no help from the footy department. As WP said some Tiger supporters were claiming we'd be lucky to get to 15-20,000 members if Frawley stayed on. With Wallace now on board we are likely to see another if not larger increase in 2005 with or as is more likely without Schwab.
As for holding an EGM in december when the AGM is scheduled for then ??? :help
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Show the money
03 September 2004 Herald Sun
Mark Stevens and Jon Pierik
RICHMOND president Clinton Casey was accused yesterday of breaking several promises as tension between the warring factions at Punt Rd escalated.
Brendan Schwab is furious a key member of his ticket, Michael Humphris, has so far been refused access to financial information.
As part of the peace deal hatched in July, Casey agreed to allow Humphris to look at the club's books.
But Humphris and Schwab are still waiting and are questioning why it has taken so long.
"I haven't had a response yet . . . you have fears that it (the loss) is growing day by day," Humphris said last night.
"I'm here to help the club. We want to be of assistance.
"There have been delays. I'm not sure why. It is becoming increasingly frustrating."
Schwab has threatened to force an early election if the books aren't opened soon.
But Casey said last night the Tigers' treasurer and financial controller had been trying to contact Humphris.
"We're trying to set up a time for next week, but Michael has been unavailable," Casey said. "We're ready to go, but apparently he has been away."
Casey said the financial position would be given to Humphris in the presence of AFL officials.
"We want to ensure the correct perspective is portrayed with the results," he said.
Casey strongly denied reports the club's loss would blow out to $2.4-$2.6 million.
He said the amount reported did not take in AFL distribution or Jack Dyer Foundation money.
"Our result is unchanged. Once we balance everything off it will be $2-2.1 million, which we have been articulating for months. There will be no surprises."
Schwab said Casey had failed to negotiate his exit and a smooth transition to a new board of directors as well as provide the financial information.
Schwab said that if these conditions weren't met soon, he would look at forcing an election before December's AGM.
That meeting was originally slated for January before the two parties agreed on a change.
"Some six weeks have elapsed since that agreement was struck and we have yet to be provided access to that financial information," Schwab said.
"We hold a strong view that Clinton has been the worst-performing president in the history of the club.
"This decision about his own future is the immediate point in negotiations."
Schwab has a seven-man ticket to run against the Tigers' nine-man board.
"We have deliberately run with a ticket of seven so there is some scope for negotiations to a new board, so new candidates can come from the existing board or from outside both groups," Schwab said. "But should there not be satisfactory negotiations, then we will expand our group to the full complement of nine."
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,10653256%255E19742,00.html
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:help Thanks for repeating that Brendan ::) ::)
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Schwab may be a nuff nuff, but he's not the one that made the club lose $2m+
There's a few ppl on this site that are too quick to forgive just because Wallace is coach. As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have Wallace and a healthy bank account that lets him go out and get us another team full of Nathan Browns, than a Wallace with his hands tied behind his back for the next 2 years.
Casey not handing over the books is a serious thing for every Richmond member to worry about. He hid how much we were losing last year, and didnt even tell his own board. He is not off the hook, and he is accountable firstly and foremostly to his members, not the AFL poofs.
Its time for Leon Daphne to return to the club as the president.
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Everyone knows that with a decent ticket, Casey would be on his ass.......If Schwab and Welsh weren't part of this ticket and had two other faces in it....I reckon Casey would be in trouble.
Maybe the smoking @ pokie venue legislation has caused us to lose $2mill..... ::) ::) ::) ::)
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Schwab may be a nuff nuff, but he's not the one that made the club lose $2m+
Then why replace one nuff nuff with another? What difference will it make to the Club?
There's a few ppl on this site that are too quick to forgive just because Wallace is coach.
You may have misinterpreted what has been said, because I don’t know that anyone on here has forgiven anyone for anything. The reason we don’t rate Schwab is because he couldn’t do the job as President if he had a hand up his back prompting him how to go about it. Basically, he isn’t a President’s button hole. And that’s the main antagonism towards him. If he looked like he had half an idea what was going on I’d support him, but the facts are he’s got no idea how to run a Laundromat, let a lone an AFL club.
You only have to read the comments he makes. They are not even his own. He read them somewhere, thought they sounded ok, so he used them. He couldn’t assess anything unless someone else did it for him.
Casey not handing over the books is a serious thing for every Richmond member to worry about. He hid how much we were losing last year, and didnt even tell his own board. He is not off the hook, and he is accountable firstly and foremostly to his members, not the AFL poofs.
RFC has a licence to be in the AFL. On that basis, I would think it is accountable to the AFL first.
Its time for Leon Daphne to return to the club as the president.
He said ‘no’ some time ago and he's not the answer either. He's had his go.
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Schwab may be a nuff nuff, but he's not the one that made the club lose $2m+
Nuff Nuff aint the word.
With regard to him not being the one that made the club lose $2m+ - I could argue that Clinton Casey didn't either. There are 9 people on the board - this seems to be constently lost. Who's to blame? All of them - not 1 person, not 2 all 9 of them. Brendan Schwab has not and will not take any responsibility for decisions that were made while he was on the board (and he was part to) and that is one of the main reason I don't trust or respect him.
The fact is whether Brendan wants to admit it himself he is as responsible as every other board member.
There's a few ppl on this site that are too quick to forgive just because Wallace is coach. As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have Wallace and a healthy bank account that lets him go out and get us another team full of Nathan Browns, than a Wallace with his hands tied behind his back for the next 2 years.
I haven't fogiven anyone nor, have I forgetten the people who are responsibility. But as I said there is more than 1 person to blame here.
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Schwab may be a nuff nuff, but he's not the one that made the club lose $2m+
Nuff Nuff aint the word.
With regard to him not being the one that made the club lose $2m+ - I could argue that Clinton Casey didn't either. There are 9 people on the board - this seems to be constently lost. Who's to blame? All of them - not 1 person, not 2 all 9 of them. Brendan Schwab has not and will not take any responsibility for decisions that were made while he was on the board (and he was part to) and that is one of the main reason I don't trust or respect him.
The fact is whether Brendan wants to admit it himself he is as responsible as every other board member.
There's a few ppl on this site that are too quick to forgive just because Wallace is coach. As far as I'm concerned, I'd rather have Wallace and a healthy bank account that lets him go out and get us another team full of Nathan Browns, than a Wallace with his hands tied behind his back for the next 2 years.
I haven't fogiven anyone nor, have I forgetten the people who are responsibility. But as I said there is more than 1 person to blame here.
No. There is only one person to blame. Casey.
If you go back to the start of the season when Welsh and Schwab resigned, it was because Casey was making the decisions without consulting his board. Their allegation was that Casey was misleading his board as to the club's financial position. Casey did not share with his board the clubs books in 2003, but signed them himself and gave them to the AFL.
Not one board member was given the 2003 financial statements to review or sign. That was the reason they gave for resigning from the board.
Just because you dont like Schwab, doesnt mean Casey is all of a sudden a democrat in the way he runs the club. He was accused of being a dictator when Frawley was coach, and he still is. Wallace's appointment doesnt all of a sudden change the way the club is run at the board level.
Both of them are bad for the club. But only one of them is responsible for the money we're losing. And $2m losses set clubs back 2-3 years in their development, and no matter how good a coach Wallace is, this makes his job harder.
Its a sad indictment on our club that we have a shocker like Casey as president who loses $2m and misleads both his board and members about it, and the only challengers are the Pahoffs and Schwabs. Where the fk is Macek and Daphne when we need them?
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No. There is only one person to blame. Casey.
Cannot agree with you here 1980. Brendan Schawb & Peter Welsh were on the board when decisions were made and therefore as Directors of the club they are repsonsible.
If you go back to the start of the season when Welsh and Schwab resigned, it was because Casey was making the decisions without consulting his board. Their allegation was that Casey was misleading his board as to the club's financial position.
When Peter Welsh resigned he said "it was nothing sinister, he just didn't have the time" but now it is because of Casey - which is it?
Allegation is the key word - they have made allegations but the haven't backed it up with much fact at this stage.
Casey did not share with his board the clubs books in 2003, but signed them himself and gave them to the AFL.
Not one board member was given the 2003 financial statements to review or sign.
Incorrect - firstly because under Corporation Law they are required to be signed by 2 directors which they were.
How do I know this? I have a copy of the RFC Club's annaul report with me - and believe me it is signed by 2 Directors
Secondly, they are lodged with ASIC first then the AFL receive a copy of them. Members receive an extract of the accounts but on request can have full copy of them.
They make an interesitng read by the way ;)
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They make an interesitng read by the way ;)
Do they mention the smoking legislation? I cant get past this......I almost burst out laughing loud during the AGM when he mentioed this as an excuse for lack of revenue 2 years after it had been enforced.
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Do they mention the smoking legislation? I cant get past this......I almost burst out laughing loud during the AGM when he mentioed this as an excuse for lack of revenue 2 years after it had been enforced.
Yes it does say that the Government's anti smoking legislation effected revenues from gaming venues - it was down $400k+ on budget in 2003.
An intresting sidenote to that is that the State Government cut from Pokie revenues in 2002/03 was down by around 50-60%.
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WP, 2 directors is not 9 board members. We have 9 ppl on the board. And the other 7 were not shown the books and still have not seen them. What sort of stuffn board is this with everyone sitting around not caring a less about money being thrown away?
Out of the 2 directors that signed it, neither Welsh nor Schwabs name is there. Hence they have the right to challenge the board for poor governance. In fact, I am shocked the others are not jumping up and down. Its a directors duty, and I'm not yet sure what is worse. Casey bankrupting the club, or the other directors sitting there letting him do it.
I wouldnt be commenting on any of this, except for the fact that Casey still refuses to hand over the books. There is something he is hiding. Clearly.
Casey has been shadowy on the books all along. Announcing small losses, then larger ones, until when the heat was on, he came out and declared the full $2m.
We share the same view about Schwab, but leaving Casey there to do as he pleases will not help the club move forward. He is responsible for losing money and not telling either his board or members.
Both should fk off. And I want both to be criticised equally
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WP, 2 directors is not 9 board members. We have 9 ppl on the board. And the other 7 were not shown the books and still have not seen them. What sort of stuffn board is this with everyone sitting around not caring a less about money being thrown away?
1980 - there was a board meeting in December and an AGM in January - ther other 7 people would have seen the books - because we (the members) all had the information prior to the AGM. Then the info was available a the AGM because we had to vote on it. So they saw them - because as I said we all did.
If Schwab and Welsh were not happy with what they were reading why didn't they say sometihng at the AGM. They both sat there and said nothing - absolutely nothing. Another one of the reasons I don't trust them.
Do I trust Casey? - not really but with the choices currently available - I go with Casey because IMHO he is a much better option that Schwab
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If the ticket filled the 2 places with, say, one of them Rex Hunt or someone with cred like Benny Gale, how would you feel about the ticket then ppls?
Just curious. I'm almost persuaded to go with the status quo in Casey because they seem to be doing a few good things of late - Wallace, new ceo, etc and after the draft, if we do well there, i don't see much hope for Schwab and co.
But if they brought in 2 other ppl with cred would be a tough decision, especially if one of them were to usurp Mickey Mouse as leader of the group.
Your thoughts please.
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No go for me froars. Any group that elects Schwab as their leader has less of a clue than he has.
Regarding others coming into the group, people who know what they are doing wouldn’t want to have any part of anything Schwab was involved in to begin with.
No credibility as far as I am concerned. The damage was done at the very beginning. Adding one or two new people now would just be window dressing.
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Regarding others coming into the group, people who know what they are doing wouldn’t want to have any part of anything Schwab was involved in to begin with.
I thought Benny gave the group the thumbs up at the beginning - anyone know what Leon Daphne and others said?
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1980 - there was a board meeting in December and an AGM in January - ther other 7 people would have seen the books - because we (the members) all had the information prior to the AGM. Then the info was available a the AGM because we had to vote on it. So they saw them - because as I said we all did.
If Schwab and Welsh were not happy with what they were reading why didn't they say sometihng at the AGM. They both sat there and said nothing - absolutely nothing. Another one of the reasons I don't trust them.
Do I trust Casey? - not really but with the choices currently available - I go with Casey because IMHO he is a much better option that Schwab
There's no way to answer this without looking like a Swab supporter. Which I'm not. I'm just anti-Casey, and even more pisd off because he's being challenged by a limp dik like Swab, which means he'll get away with losing us lots of money.
But, before Frawley announced he'd not continue in 2005, everyone called Casey a dictator and wanted him to go. Now that Wallace is coach, we're happy to sweep it all under the carpet.
The thing that will hold back Wallace will be he's got no money. And for that Casey, not swab, is responsible. And whether swab resigned before or after the AGM, the fact is he resigned. And his basis for doing so was that Casey was witholding from the board the club finances and books. And he is still doing it.
If swab had a stronger ticket, Casey would be gone. The fact that he doesnt means Casey will continue to fill the board with Anthony Mitten.
Before swab challenged, Daphne and Macek were on the radio screaming that Casey was a dud. Now they're nowehere to be found. And that is what I'm most pisd off about.
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I think TS summed it up beautifully with the "replacing one nuff-nuff with another nuff-nuff" comment. We did that 5 years ago with the choice (or lack) of coach and we saw what mess that eventually got us into. In fact it's these stupid decisions in regards to the footy department that are the main reason for where we are now and Casey, Schwab and Welsh were all boards members for at least 5 of the past 6 years and all carry blame whether they admit it or not. So no I don't see anti-Schwab comments as pro-Casey nor anti-Casey as pro-Schwab unless someone is openly pushing for the election of one of these twits.
Although it looks unlikely I hope a third alternative free of ex-board members comes forward. To answer froars question the "names" would have to replace Schwab and Welsh as part of the ticket as well as demontrate commitment and present their plans for RFC's future. Unfortunately when those that claimed publicly Casey should go were pressed to run against him they said they didn't have the time nor inclination. We can all state the bleedingly obvious about what went wrong. It's a whole different ball game to come up with viable solutions.
The current alternative hasn't after all this time publicly presented any future plans for the RFC (apart from fairy-floss keywords) and as a result they have given Casey the political up-hand and as each day goes by Schwab's chances of winning diminishes. As I said in my last post, in a year where we have lost $2 million and come last on-field, a half-decent alternative should have Casey on his knees with no support whatsoever. The fact that that hasn't occurred alone says something about how poor and weak the current alternative really is.
As for not being shown the books. It's called playing polictics and no giving your opponent an advantage. Technically no time-frame was publicly agreed upon that I can recall so as long as Casey eventually shows them the books he can string Schwab along. This would only backfire if there's something to hide. Now that Casey's said publicly he will show Humphris the books sometime next week he has to show them. I'm not defending Casey's actions but it's no surprise that the incumbant doesn't jump when the challenger says so.
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Casey's ego and money won't allow RFC to go under, which is much more than Schwab can guarantee therefore he gets my vote.
What has Schwab been doing to help the club in the last 5 years - Zip, nada, niet, nil, nothing, zero....I think you get the drift!
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Casey's ego and money won't allow RFC to go under, which is much more than Schwab can guarantee therefore he gets my vote.
Couldn't agree more bg
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But, before Frawley announced he'd not continue in 2005, everyone called Casey a dictator and wanted him to go. Now that Wallace is coach, we're happy to sweep it all under the carpet.
Not so 1980. The same reservations about the alternative ticket were being raised prior to the Frawley announcement and well before the Wallace appointment.
You could rightly claim that some are leaning toward Casey since, but the overwhelming majority on the boards have not changed. They are still not pro-Casey but are still not convinced about a Schwab-led ticket being a viable alternative. Me included.
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Tidbid in the H.Sun saying a third party may be formed...did not mention names.
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The same reservations about the alternative ticket were being raised prior to the Frawley announcement and well before the Wallace appointment.
Exactly right FishFinger. From the start, some of us thought Schwab was just on an ego trip. Pure and simple.
Schwab couldn’t care less whether he was in charge of an AFL club, some soccer body or an ice cream shop, as long as he felt he had some power.
And right from the start, he has shown nothing to suggest otherwise. He has gained no momentum or support from anyone, anywhere. If anything, people have moved away from aligning themselves with him and his group. Apart from anything else, his enthusiasm for all things Richmond hardly pours out of him and makes you think he really cares enough or is that interested in the long-term future of the Club. Because if he was wholehearted about this, people would jump on the band wagon and support him just as whole heartedly. Instead the wishy washy support he has says something about the way he has gone about this whole thing.
People can say all they like that he is a Richmond person, but I reckon that Eddie McGuire is more of a Richmond person than Schwab ever has been. No joke.
Add to all that the fact that the man can’t see past his nose and you know why people won’t support him. Even if he was Pinnochio, he still couldn’t see far enough to help RFC get off mediocrity street. Especially when the people behind him are just as short-sighted as he is.
To put Schwab in would be a step backwards. At least Casey goes out and puts his reputation on the line. If he fails, it won’t be for lack of trying.
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Tidbid in the H.Sun saying a third party may be formed...did not mention names.
I wonder if that's just a handy rumour because alot of Tiger members are disappointed with the choice of Casey or Schwab or there's more to it. I wish there was another and this time half-decent alternative. They wouldn't have much competition to win at an election.
Not mentioning any names doesn't give the rumour much credibility.
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Tidbid in the H.Sun saying a third party may be formed...did not mention names.
I wonder if that's just a handy rumour because alot of Tiger members are disappointed with the choice of Casey or Schwab or there's more to it. I wish there was another and this time half-decent alternative. They wouldn't have much competition to win at an election.
My sentiments exactly MT. Swab challenging for the board has done nothing more than to increase Casey's hold on the presidents position.
What I'd give for a viable alternative to such perennial losers.
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As the old timers would say, Brendan Schwab not worth two-bob.
Thats sounds like a good slogan actually, with any luck he might use it for the election ;)
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As the old timers would say, Brendan Schwab not worth two-bob.
Thats sounds like a good slogan actually, with any luck he might use it for the election ;)