One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on September 17, 2008, 10:37:54 PM
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According to BF, Steve Wright announced we are sponsoring 2 rookies.
the big announcement relates to an initiative by rfc. Steven wright announced that we sponsor 2 rookies. Hmmm. Tiges to have 6 instead of 4 rookies
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=12490565&postcount=147
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bg25 says the Club is trying to raise funds for two new rookies. Calling it the 'rookie pledge'. $500 a pledge.
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bg25 said yep it's 6 rookies all up if they get the pledges.
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Not sure how we can 6 rookies when we have 2 vets outside the senior list unless these rookies are international (Irish I guessing)?
Anyway mhill on BF says it'll cost 100k all up ($50k per rookie) and the club already has 60 of the 200 pledges needed. Glad to see the club being proactive.
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Not sure how we can 6 rookies when we have 2 vets outside the senior list unless these rookies are international (Irish I guessing)?
Anyway mhill on BF says it'll cost 100k all up ($50k per rookie) and the club already has 60 of the 200 pledges needed. Glad to see the club being proactive.
Maybe the extra rookie spots we can have due to the Gold Coast coming and taking draft picks starts next year, MT?
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Good.
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Not sure how we can 6 rookies when we have 2 vets outside the senior list unless these rookies are international (Irish I guessing)?
Anyway mhill on BF says it'll cost 100k all up ($50k per rookie) and the club already has 60 of the 200 pledges needed. Glad to see the club being proactive.
Maybe the extra rookie spots we can have due to the Gold Coast coming and taking draft picks starts next year, MT?
GC doesn't enter the National draft until 2010 but they do have access to bottom age draftees next year whereas existing clubs don't. You may be still right though about the extra rookie spots TA. I forgot about that :thumbsup. From memory it was 3 extra spots IIRC. We'll also be getting an Irish kid according to Ricky Nixon a couple of weeks ago.
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Thet got 100 pledges may have been 102 cannot remember :P
I think the rule for the number of rookies changes next season because of the GC17 thing, clubs can have 2 extra rookies in 2009
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I think the rule for the number of rookies changes next season because of the GC17 thing, clubs can have 2 extra rookies in 2009
Yeah, and 2010.
Compensation for priority access for GC17 to 20 Qld teenagers who would opt to stand out of the draft.
http://news.theage.com.au/sport/afl-details-gold-coast-draft-concessions-20080627-2xxu.html
Will probably increase by another rookie in 2011.
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I think the rule for the number of rookies changes next season because of the GC17 thing, clubs can have 2 extra rookies in 2009
Yeah, and 2010.
Compensation for priority access for GC17 to 20 Qld teenagers who would opt to stand out of the draft.
http://news.theage.com.au/sport/afl-details-gold-coast-draft-concessions-20080627-2xxu.html
Will probably increase by another rookie in 2011.
Cheers WP and FF :cheers.
Presumably one of the rookies will be an Irish kid.
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Interesting that Balmey this morning mentions there is a new rookie rule.....
"There's a new rule next year where after round 11 one rookie will be able to play senior footy, without having to put a player on the long-term injury list," Balme said.
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2008/10/15/23655_gfc.html
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Interesting that Balmey this morning mentions there is a new rookie rule.....
"There's a new rule next year where after round 11 one rookie will be able to play senior footy, without having to put a player on the long-term injury list," Balme said.
http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2008/10/15/23655_gfc.html
Hmmm very interesting... and I would think a very good idea
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Agree WP. A very good idea. It would also help someone who may be a chance to get a mature rookie position as they would be ready-made or an international rookie.
Collard would be our obvious candidate at this stage you would think if he's not promoted. If we keep Polak on the senior list and then put him on the long-term injury list then that would free up two rookies to eventually play on the senior list next year.
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I'm guessing Cartledge will be promoted due to our depleated Ruckstocks, leaving Collard on the rookie list and Howart and Silvester delisted. We will gain an Irish rookie and four others. Of those four I would once more guess that the first two will be the best project players/talent overlooked in the draft while the final two will be insurance players much like Howart and Silvestor were for us this year.
Polak will be placed on the Long-Term injury list immediately and Collard will be elevated.
I think the new rule is an excellent one. It's always good to see a Rookie play and succeed.
Stripes
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We would have to delist or drop someone back to the rookie list for us to promote Cartledge. We are currently at the maximum 35 senior listed players that are allowed by Oct 31.
Interesting that the rookie delistings haven't been mentioned yet. Perhaps we are waiting to see what shape they return back in for the start of preseason training before making a final decision or perhaps we are waiting until we raise the money for the 2 extra rookies.
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we should Rookie - Polak and keep Collard ... leaving 4 Rookie spots for what i believe should be for 17/18 year olds who do not get drafted.
Polak's Rookie position then leaves another spot on our Senior list ...
not sure about Cartledge ...
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we should Rookie - Polak and keep Collard ... leaving 4 Rookie spots for what i believe should be for 17/18 year olds who do not get drafted.
Polak's Rookie position then leaves another spot on our Senior list ...
not sure about Cartledge ...
One of the rookie spots will be for an Irish kid as well.
I would have Polak on the rookie list as well but it looks like the club is concerned about our finances and minimizing our TPP so he'll remain on the senior list because we'll be rightly paying him as a senior listed player while he recovers after the accident.
Cartledge is now too old to be rookied in 2009 so he will be either delisted or promoted.
Rookie spots:
1. Collard
2. Irish kid
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4 spots open for 17/18 year olds who slip through the draft. Hopefully 1 ruckman, 1 key forward, 1 key defender and 1 mid.
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Reward for club rookies
Jon Ralph | October 27, 2008
AFL rookies will have greater opportunity to shine next year, with clubs able to automatically elevate a rookie halfway through the season.
As part of the compensation for clubs giving away valuable draft picks to the Gold Coast, all 16 clubs will be allowed two extra rookies in the 2009-10 seasons.
In the past, clubs have had to put a senior-listed player on the long-term injury list for eight weeks to elevate a rookie.
That has seen the unfortunate situation where a well-performed rookie has had to return to the rookie list, and VFL footy, despite showing strong form in the AFL.
Starting next season, if a player has impressed enough a club can decide to elevate him irrespective of the club's injury list.
Clubs without two listed veterans can already nominate a rookie to play during the year, with Carlton rookie Michael Jamieson competing in 16 games last season.
The new ruling will give some clubs as many as two extra players on their list in the second half of the year.
It is another win for rookie-listed players, with some of the stars of the competition coming from the rookie list over the past decade.
Players such as Dean Cox, Brett Kirk, Brad Sewell, Dean Brogan, Tarkyn Lockyer, Ben Rutten and Nathan Foley have all been promoted rookies.
AFL football operations manager Adrian Anderson said yesterday the rule would help clubs maximise the extra rookies on their lists.
"There will be an opportunity to upgrade a rookie at the halfway mark of the season without having to put someone on the injured list," Anderson said.
"I was just talking to Mick Malthouse at the (International Rules) jumper presentation and of the players here in Perth, 10 have made their way off rookie lists.
"There are a lot of great players among them and it goes to show it is a vital pathway for players that missed out on being drafted."
The Gold Coast club will get access to 16 uncontracted players plus selections 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, and 15 in the 2011 national draft.
Existing clubs will be compensated with a future draft pick for losing an uncontracted star, with a complicated formula to determine the number of the draft selection
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24554863-19742,00.html
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Well I guess that means we will be able to elevate at least two rookie listed players next year. One for Polak at the beggining of the season, and one midseason
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A rule change from the AFL that is actually a sensible one for a change. If a rookie is starring at Coburg then he deserves a chance to be called up without having to wait for a long-term injury.
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After yesterday we have 5 rookie spots to fill but at least one of those will be for an Irish kid.
Rookie spots:
1. Silvester
2. Irish kid
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Allfooty.info has done a phantom rookie draft:
For Richmond:
8. Will Young (192cm, 83kg, tall forward/defender)
24. Mitch Frail (198cm, 74kg, ruckman/tall forward)
39. Hamish Paynter (179cm, 77kg, midfielder)
53. Tim Bongetti (191cm, 87kg, tall forward/defender)
65. Fortunato Caruso (172cm, 70kg, small forward/midfielder)
Click the link below for the full mock rookie draft:
http://www.allfooty.info/2008/11/2008-afl-draft-ultimate-mock-draft.html
They have Gourdis going to Freo and Meyer to Port. So take it for what it's worth.
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Hope they grab as many bottom aged players as possible in the rookie draft - kids that are just a little young and need another year to mature = example Palmer
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Hope they grab as many bottom aged players as possible in the rookie draft - kids that are just a little young and need another year to mature = example Palmer
unfortunately that is not possible, bottom aged players are ineligible for the rookie draft
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Yep rookies have to be at least 18 years old and under 23 except for a mature rookie (Silvester).
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imho we should look at grabbing the bottom age players with our last 2 national draft picks which are really late picks, kA key forward that may go earlier in the draft next year should be considered imho.
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Foley was on SEN talking about starting off as a rookie and through hard work has now become vice-captain. He thought his height or lack of it was why he was overlooked in the National draft. Clubs were more interested in 6' 2" athletic types. He trained with Melbourne before talking to Richmond and the rest as they say is history.
Mark Doran mentioned that 17 rookies have gone on to become premiership players including the reigning premiership captain.
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Just confirming Richmond has picks 8, 24, 39, 53 and 64 in the rookie draft.
The full rookie draft order is here:
http://www.allfooty.info/2008/12/rookie-draft-order.html