One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on October 25, 2008, 04:30:55 PM
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Only 152 days to go lol
Here's wayne's highlights package from R1 this year to whet the appetite :thumbsup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5EUN-tRZFM
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I still can't believe Richo didn't get that free.
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If I can get my hands on a HDD recorder by round 1 next year, i'll do highlights for every win we have.
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If I can get my hands on a HDD recorder by round 1 next year, i'll do highlights for every win we have.
Hopefully for our sake more of Ratten looking dumbfounded ;D
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Only 152 days to go lol
Oh One Eyed You make it sound sooooo far off
:'(
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Warnock is a plank apparently according to this article straight from their coaches mouth
By Matt Burgan
4:39 PM Mon 27 October, 2008
CARLTON coach Brett Ratten says boom recruit Robbie Warnock will be a key plank in lifting the club off the bottom of the hit-outs table in 2009.
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=69303
I think he means he is either as thick as a plank or after Simmonds and Patto finish with him he will feel like he has been hit with one many times over.
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The media have certainly jumped on the Blues bandwagon. Training vision on the news and a number on stories on the paper and on the web like they are the only ones who have started preseason this week :sleep.
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Same thing happened last year with all the euphoria on Judd etc.
This year Warnock and what not. Let it happen. Last year Terry had them primed and focused for round 1 with all the talk on Carlscum. The media have jumped on again this year and I can see come March 26 next year the media will be expecting Richmond once again to play the role of necessary victim to this Carlton juggernaut. How sweet it will be to ruin their start two years in a row. Bring it on. :thumbsup
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Wouldn't worry about reading this dribble, it is going to be so sweet to knock them off their off season dreams of granduer perch in round 1
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=663095
Carlton captain Chris Judd says the early signs are there for the Blues to make a long-awaited finals appearance next season.
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Wouldn't worry about reading this dribble, it is going to be so sweet to knock them off their off season dreams of granduer perch in round 1
http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=663095
Carlton captain Chris Judd says the early signs are there for the Blues to make a long-awaited finals appearance next season.
One man band :whistle. I'd rather read how our cubs are killing it on the track :thumbsup.
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Generous of the Herald-Sun today to make it Carlton membership drive day :chuck. Jon Ralph is only missing a pic of himself with blue and white pom-poms :-X.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24638933-19742,00.html
Hopefully 'we know their coming' when round 1 arrives and send them back to where they came from with their tail between their legs :thumbsup
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The Blues are going to have to live up to a LOT of hype next year.
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The Blues are going to have to live up to a LOT of hype next year.
Yep, it should take the pressure off us for a while, well until we lose 2 games in a row anyway and then the hounds will be out baying for blood
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It seems that all the hype around Carlton for next year is all positive, like it was before last season...yet all the hype around Richmond always seems to be negative - will TW keep his job?
It would be nice to have the media building us up as much as they do the Bluebaggers. We just don't seem to have the players with the positive profile or buzz around them as the likes of Judd, Fev, Kruezer, Murphy and Gibbs. You would think after finishing higher on the ladder and with a player who almost snatched the Brownlow in 2008 we would be rated higher than the Bluebaggers by the football community.
I guess we have to earn more respect after so many false dawns and near misses over the journey.
Stripes
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SEN's late show 'Gladiators' got onto us and Carlton last night and how we were both up and coming sides at around the same level and both have expectations of finals next year. One of them then said the round 1 game will be a crunch game for how the rest of the season will go. The winner will gain massive momentum for the rest of the year while the loser especially if it's a poor loss could flop.
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SEN's late show 'Gladiators' got onto us and Carlton last night and how we were both up and coming sides at around the same level and both have expectations of finals next year. One of them then said the round 1 game will be a crunch game for how the rest of the season will go. The winner will gain massive momentum for the rest of the year while the loser especially if it's a poor loss could flop.
Too much talent at our club now to flop. The only way that will happen is if we have a horrendous run with injuries or some unforeseen off-field turmoil envelopes the club. Not saying we will be premiers or even top 4 but out stocks are now sufficient to keep us from the bottom at least for the next couple of seasons.
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They said the same thing before round 1 this year except they were expecting us to be the ones to rollover for Judd's party :wallywink. To say the result of a round 1 game affects the rest of the season is ridiculous. The Swans over the last five years have made it an artform to start the year poorly before still ending up in the finals.
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The Blues are getting the Bombers treatment of last year in the media.
The Bombers had an article pretty much every day for the whole off-season.
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No marketing needed for round-one clash
Martin Boulton | December 17, 2008
IN MARCH this year, Richmond and Carlton's Thursday night opener between Richmond and Carlton dragged more than 70,000 to the MCG.
On that evening, the interest in the game was generated largely by the arrival at Carlton of Chris Judd.
Next year, when the same clubs face off at the same venue, the drawcard will be another former Eagle champion and Brownlow medallist, Ben Cousins.
Carlton had the home gate last time, and it's fitting that the Tigers, having taken the plunge on Cousins, will reap the home-game benefits of the monstrous event.
But as much as Richmond and Carlton fans alike might be salivating at the prospect of season-opening showdown between the old teammates, Tigers coach Terry Wallace said was it too early to say whether Cousins would play in round one.
"We know he's kept himself in good shape, (but) from a football sense we have to ease him into the early part of our training regime because our guys have been up and running for a couple of months," he said.
"He's got a lot of time, its a long while between now and the start of the (season), but he's got a lot to prove as well.
"… He gains an opportunity and what he does with that opportunity, how he presents himself, whether he starts playing at Coburg or AFL level, that will be up to Ben and how he conducts himself at our football club."
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/no-marketing-needed-for-roundone-clash/2008/12/16/1229189623683.html
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Anyone want to have a go at our midfield starting line up for this game
I think it will be
Tuck Based on his latter half of 2008 year he has to be in here I would have thought
Jackson I think Judd will be tagged all day and I think Jackson is the man to do it, based on the latter half of his 2008 year he probably has the runs on the board vs other potential taggers in Polo/Kingy
Foley Our clearance king, you would think he would have to be in here as well. He is too small and doesnt seem to be a strong enough mark to play either back or forward. It would either be in the middle or on the bench.
But that leaves Cousins and Lids not in the starting midfield and I would think at least one of them have to be in there. Then you have Cotch and then the next level of Cogs/Hislop/Thomson/White/Tambling etc.
I would like to see Lids in the middle to give Gibbs/Murphy a bath and for Cousins to run all over Nick Stevens, but that would mean Tuck or Foley not in there.
One thing for sure the pressure on the midfield will be intense to perform as our midfield quality and quantity is lifting from previous years.
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Carlton fans expect them to line up:
Thornton Jamison Browne
Grigg Bower Simpson
Gibbs Harley Stevens
Houlihan Waite Walker
Bett Fevola KReuzer
Warnock Judd Murphy
Scotland Yarren Russel Cloke
IMO the backline is pretty weak. Deledio, Cousins, Brown, Cotchin, Richo, Morton etc. should be able to kick a few goals if our midfield breaks even. I expect Coughlan, Foley, Tuck, Thomson etc. to break even.
Thursfeild -> Fev
Newman -> Houlihan
Schultz/MooreMcGaune - >Walker/Waite?
Would love for Rance to smash Kruzer.
We need to find a small defender to play on betts / yarren - and all the small for like milne type fookers.
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Our possible small defenders for next year are King, Raines, Tambling, McMahon, Hislop and maybe even Polo. Bling and McMahon are more offesive rebounding defenders. Kingy and Raines play similiar styles but are more defensive minded though Kingy aerial weakness has been exploited recently and Raines is coming off poor form before a major injury.
I think we may find Hislop will become that defender we need to blanket players such as Betts, Milne etc with Raines the other likelihood.
The midfield battle should be the most interesting. We need to use players such as Tuck, Cousins, Cogs, Thomson, Lids and Foley to out-muscle their smaller skilled mids. Judd and Stevens are strong but Gibbs, Murphy and co we should be able to expose. The line-ups appear very evenly matched.
A fully fit Simmonds should be able to towel up Warnock and Cloke. Patto less so.
Our forwards are relatively weak but so is their backline so it will depend who has developed the most since last season.
Should be a ripper game - hope we tear them a new one! :thumbsup
Stripes
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I still think the Blues will need Waite at CHB. I can't see them getting away with just Bower and Jamieson. The others in Bents line-up aren't tall key defenders when we're likely to have talls Richo, Jack, Cleve, Simmo when he's resting, rotating up forward. A third tall could easily stretch the Blues defence without Waite especially when Richo pushes inside 50.
In the midfield I think we'll start with Foley, Tuck and Jacko (tagging Judd). We then have Cotch, Lids and Cuz as the second tier :o and then the likes of Sugar, Blingers, Thommo, Whitey, etc as our third tier. We finally have some flexbility and depth in the midfield to play around with. Judd, Gibbs and Stevens will be the Blue mids will have to contain. Murphy's kicking can be suspect at times.
Both clubs have the potential to play finals next year so it'll be a good first up test. A win would generate some significant momentum for the rest of the season.
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You'd almost give Vickery a debut game against Carlton in a forward pocket in those circumstances.
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You'd almost give Vickery a debut game against Carlton in a forward pocket in those circumstances.
It'd be a bold selection but if he kicks 2-3 goals then not only would it be a massive boost to his confidence but it would force Ratten to find a tall to match-up on him. If he has to use Waite down back then that frees up Richo on the wing.
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2009 Round One Betting Market Open
Richmond $1.93 v Carlton $1.80 MCG
Brisbane $1.33 v West Coast $3.10 G
Collingwood $1.45 v Adelaide $2.60 MCG
Fremantle $1.75 v Western Bulldogs $2.00 S
Hawthorn $2.10 v Geelong $1.67 MCG
Melbourne $3.40 v Nth Melbourne $1.28 MCG
Port Adelaide $1.38 v Essendon $2.85 AS
St Kilda $1.36 v Sydney $2.95 TD
http://www.tab.com.au/Sports/Betting/PlaceFixedOddsBet.aspx?State=1&LocationCode=0&Competition=102&MeetingType=1]Source: TAB Sportsbet (http://)
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In a nutsell I hate Carlton and their supporters - hope we bend em over Big Time - Captain obvious here ;D
I know over the years Skunks have taken over, but too me they are level playing field.
ie: You know pond scum, all the duck and fish excretion and whatever else is down the bottotm of a stinky sewer filled pond, well skunks and Blooz are the bedrock below that stuff.
Once again :santa
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Either the bookies think Port will improve big time or Essendon is crap ;D.
I'm happy if we go into round 1 again underrated. No Nick Stevens for the Blues and Browny surely won't kicked 7 straight points again.
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Richo, Brown, Deledio, Cotchin, Cousins....equal to any list of stars the Blues may have.
We'll have 40,000 of the tiger Army there in full voice and we wil have the best list among the big 4. We'll stuff them.
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Here's wayne's highlights package from R1 this year to whet the appetite :thumbsup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5EUN-tRZFM
The Gunners blocked my video because I used Welcome to the Jungle!!!
I have made a NEW HQ version, it has also been trimmed a little, and there is no music just commentary.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=2xNhR7YOmPE
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Here's wayne's highlights package from R1 this year to whet the appetite :thumbsup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5EUN-tRZFM
The Gunners blocked my video because I used Welcome to the Jungle!!!
I have made a NEW HQ version, it has also been trimmed a little, and there is no music just commentary.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=2xNhR7YOmPE
lol, so that's what Axl has been doing, checking you tube vids for copyright infringements ::)
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http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7rMy6JVRYPY
lol :clapping this is funny!
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Here's wayne's highlights package from R1 this year to whet the appetite :thumbsup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5EUN-tRZFM
The Gunners blocked my video because I used Welcome to the Jungle!!!
I have made a NEW HQ version, it has also been trimmed a little, and there is no music just commentary.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=2xNhR7YOmPE
Lol, classic. ;D I like it with the commentary just as much. :thumbsup
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Axel Rose - patents lawyer inc :wallywink. It's still just as good wayne :thumbsup.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7rMy6JVRYPY
lol :clapping this is funny!
LOL. I like the bit where Richo demands the ball off Clever ;D. He'd get dragged for that ;).
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CARLTON ruckman recruit Robbie Warnock has been sidelined for up to eight weeks with a stress fracture in his foot.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/foot-injury-puts-warnock-out/2009/01/07/1231004104166.html
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24886051-19742,00.html
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CARLTON ruckman recruit Robbie Warnock has been sidelined for up to eight weeks with a stress fracture in his foot.
Effectively means they'll go into round 1 unchanged from last year in terms of their ruck deficiencies. Relying on Cloke, Hampson and also Kreuzer which they didn't want to do.
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CARLTON ruckman recruit Robbie Warnock has been sidelined for up to eight weeks with a stress fracture in his foot.
Effectively means they'll go into round 1 unchanged from last year in terms of their ruck deficiencies. Relying on Cloke, Hampson and also Kreuzer which they didn't want to do.
They beat us last time up without Warnie.
This will be a bloody tough game.
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CARLTON ruckman recruit Robbie Warnock has been sidelined for up to eight weeks with a stress fracture in his foot.
Effectively means they'll go into round 1 unchanged from last year in terms of their ruck deficiencies. Relying on Cloke, Hampson and also Kreuzer which they didn't want to do.
They beat us last time up without Warnie.
This will be a bloody tough game.
Oddly last year we often left our worst efforts to when the opposition had their best player(s) out. No Judd (lost our centenary game) and no Burton and Porplyzia (flogged at footy park) :P. Go figure we then beat the premiers with no Foley and Browny.
Round 1 will be a tough 50/50 game but Browny won't kick 7 points again :scream.
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Round 1 will be a tough 50/50 game but Browny won't kick 7 points again :scream.
I'm sure MT that after his first couple you will be out there with your compass and protractor. :lol
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Yep, Browny won't kick 7 points again that's true however Carlton have a habit of beating teams when they have something to celebrate or are expected to lie down and die. We will have the media hype with Cuz coming to play. They have been party poopers before and being the scum that they are they will do it again at some point in time to someone also.
Our centennary
Skunk Centennary
1999 Prelim with Essendon.
Our result in this game will set us up in the sense of how we will finish up come the end of the season. It will be bloody hard to say the least. A loss in rd 1 then a trip to Skilled Stadium followed by the Dogs in Rd 3 at the Dome and Damian Barrett and co may be writing Plough's coaching epitaph and our seasons obituary.
We need to be focused. Rd 1 anything but a win could leave us well behind in the pecking order.
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we will win the first of heaps for the season better believe it cause its gonna happen
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Seems everyone is going to copy Hawthorn's cluster. This from the Blues' training report:
"We were working on some quick ball movement out of defence and we're trying a bit of a different zone set-up for defending kick-ins as well, so it helped the forwards and the defenders."
Also Fev is in the rehab group.
http://www.afl.com.au/AFL2008/News/Article/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=71201
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Also Fev is in the rehab group.
With his drinking problem so he should be
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http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=7rMy6JVRYPY
lol :clapping this is funny!
Brilliant, did cousins get reorted though
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Round 1 will be a tough 50/50 game but Browny won't kick 7 points again :scream.
I'm sure MT that after his first couple you will be out there with your compass and protractor. :lol
:lol yep poor goalkicking is a well known pet hate of mine :yep.
Yep, Browny won't kick 7 points again that's true however Carlton have a habit of beating teams when they have something to celebrate or are expected to lie down and die. We will have the media hype with Cuz coming to play. They have been party poopers before and being the scum that they are they will do it again at some point in time to someone also.
Our centennary
Skunk Centennary
1999 Prelim with Essendon.
2001 SF
R22 1997 which cost them a spot in the finals after we came back from 7 goals down
Round 1 Judd party last year
The Blues games have been rare times we've done our own spoiling when everyone expected us to just roll over. Even in GFs back in a day it was better to be the underdog :-\.
Our result in this game will set us up in the sense of how we will finish up come the end of the season. It will be bloody hard to say the least. A loss in rd 1 then a trip to Skilled Stadium followed by the Dogs in Rd 3 at the Dome and Damian Barrett and co may be writing Plough's coaching epitaph and our seasons obituary.
We need to be focused. Rd 1 anything but a win could leave us well behind in the pecking order.
Yep win at least two out of the first three and build on the momentum to carry us through the season. Then the only thing Damien Barrett will be doing is getting Mike Sheahan his morning coffee and unjamming the Herald-Sun office photocopier lol.
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Round 1 will be a tough 50/50 game but Browny won't kick 7 points again :scream.
Geez MT Browny had a bad enough day with the boot without you adding to it. ;)
He only kicked 6 pointers that day. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Round 1 will be a tough 50/50 game but Browny won't kick 7 points again :scream.
Geez MT Browny had a bad enough day with the boot without you adding to it. ;)
He only kicked 6 pointers that day. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
LOL you're right Magic. The 7th miss didn't make the distance from 45m out :P.
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Geez MT Browny had a bad enough day with the boot without you adding to it. ;)
He only kicked 6 pointers that day. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
LOL you're right Magic. The 7th miss didn't make the distance from 45m out :P.
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Not Browny's best by a long shot. Best forgotten.
It will be interesting to see how he goes this season, my gut is he might struggle a little more.
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It will be interesting to see how he goes this season, my gut is he might struggle a little more.
Good thing about the depth the RFC is building is that in the past he would have been played the whole season because there would have been no alternative. 2009 onwards though it will be survivial of the best.
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It will be interesting to see how he goes this season, my gut is he might struggle a little more.
Good thing about the depth the RFC is building is that in the past he would have been played the whole season because there would have been no alternative. 2009 onwards though it will be survivial of the best.
Morton is our next Browny with someone like Nahas also fighting for the small, elusive forward position also. Browny is slowly losing his pace and sidewards movement which makes it difficult for him to loose his defender on the lead. His finishing skills infront of goal are still first rate but he struggles to crumb a goal and apply defensive pressure on oppositions running defenders now days which you need as a small forward. Hard to say for such a champion (2005??) but he may lose his place over the next couple of years.
Stripes
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It will be interesting to see how he goes this season, my gut is he might struggle a little more.
Good thing about the depth the RFC is building is that in the past he would have been played the whole season because there would have been no alternative. 2009 onwards though it will be survivial of the best.
Morton is our next Browny with someone like Nahas also fighting for the small, elusive forward position also. Browny is slowly losing his pace and sidewards movement which makes it difficult for him to loose his defender on the lead. His finishing skills infront of goal are still first rate but he struggles to crumb a goal and apply defensive pressure on oppositions running defenders now days which you need as a small forward. Hard to say for such a champion (2005??) but he may lose his place over the next couple of years.
Stripes
Sadly that broken leg robbed us of Browny's best :(. I wonder if Morton will eventually be able to push into the midfield as Browny can on top of being a clever small forward. IIRC Browny helped turn the round 1 game last year moving into the centre in the second quarter.
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Judd keen to run more this AFL season
Roger Vaughan | The Age
Carlton play Cousins' new club Richmond in round one and Judd, like everyone else, is relishing the prospect of the two Brownlow Medallists playing against each other.
"I've spoken to him and I'm rapt to see him get another go, but I haven't caught up with him yet," Judd said.
"I'm looking forward to it (round one), he's a great player and a player I've never played against, so it's another big challenge for me.
"We're both looking forward to it, hopefully he has a good year."
The Blues and Tigers finished not far outside the top eight last year and there are big expectations about their 2009 prospects.
http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-sport/judd-keen-to-run-more-this-afl-season-20090116-7iuh.html
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Geez MT Browny had a bad enough day with the boot without you adding to it. ;)
He only kicked 6 pointers that day. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
LOL you're right Magic. The 7th miss didn't make the distance from 45m out :P.
Not Browny's best by a long shot. Best forgotten.
It will be interesting to see how he goes this season, my gut is he might struggle a little more.
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They might play him behind the ball a bit more. He did a bit of that last year and grabbed more of the ball.
His real value is sharking the packs and snapping the crucial goal so I hope you're wrong about the pace dropping off.
If it has, I'd be thinking he'll pull the pin at the end of this year.
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Walker injures shoulder
Carlton’s Andrew Walker injured his right shoulder during training at Visy Park on Friday. Walker had scans on the shoulder on Friday afternoon and will meet with Carlton’s medical team and his surgeon early next week to review the extent of damage and plan the appropriate course of rehabilitation. Although the injury is to the same shoulder that kept Walker out of the first fifteen matches in 2008, it is not a recurrence of the same injury. Walker, 22 years old, has played 81 games for the Blues since his debut in Round 5, 2004.
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/tabid/4311/Default.aspx?newsid=71466
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Ch 10 during the Superbowl today was pumping up the Cousins vs Judd round 1 meeting as part of their new AFL season promo - "the most highly anticipated opening game to a season" - or words to that effect. "They shared the ultimate prize together (show clip of 2006 GF) and now they face each other on opposite teams".
They also showed Cuz posing in our 2009 guernsey with the new "d"-shaped idiot Smith logo. Why aren't these new portraits on the RFC website ???.
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They also showed Cuz posing in our 2009 guernsey with the new "d"-shaped idiot Smith logo. Why aren't these new portraits on the RFC website ???.
Cos it was only done late last week (Friday IIRC) :thumbsup
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They also showed Cuz posing in our 2009 guernsey with the new "d"-shaped idiot Smith logo. Why aren't these new portraits on the RFC website ???.
Cos it was only done late last week (Friday IIRC) :thumbsup
Okay fair enough :cheers.
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Caro again from today's Age....
The AFL has predicted a sell-out at the Richmond-Carlton clash, which should see Cousins and his former premiership teammate Chris Judd oppose each other for the first time. Blues chief executive Greg Swann has said the game has taken on Anzac Day-like qualities in terms of public interest and potential attendance figures.
Last season the opener was played between the two teams on the eve of Good Friday and although the old rivals had finished 15th and 16th the previous season more than 72,000 turned up to watch Judd make his debut in navy blue.
Link from The Age. (http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/cousins-on-track-for-roundone/2009/02/02/1233423135626.html)
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imho this game as the season opener for us has become the biggest game of the home and away season, we now have 2 proper blockbuster games, this one and the dreamtime game vs essendon. i dont understand why our club partakes in wannabee blockbusters ie. the game vs North. The game vs North, imho is not and never will be a blockbuster.
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imho this game as the season opener for us has become the biggest game of the home and away season, we now have 2 proper blockbuster games, this one and the dreamtime game vs essendon. i dont understand why our club partakes in wannabee blockbusters ie. the game vs North. The game vs North, imho is not and never will be a blockbuster.
Making out it is a blockbuster (against North) might help us get 10-15k more people through the gate.
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I would still like to be beating North more regularly than we have in the past 25 years
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A Grand Final with North participating is not a blockbuster.
Cannot understand why we even call this Eureka game a blockbuster. Last years match drew a crowd of 39000 and they were in front all day yet there were no more than about 8000 of their fans there. So much for a club that claimed to have 30000 or so members last year. They have been are and will be a nothing club and the sooner we disassociate ourselves from this venture the better. I guarantee that this years round 5 game at the dome will draw about 45k and 35k will be tigers will be shinboners and about 5k will be neutrals to see Cuz play if he will be playing.
Shinboner spirit my a*$%.
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I actually couldn't give a rats if we promoted every single game as a blockbuster. If it means more people attend then it means we earn more in gate revenue and have a higher currency to sponsors. Bring it on.
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Making out it is a blockbuster (against North) might help us get 10-15k more people through the gate.
Doesn't mean much when it's their home game
Unless we share the gate ;D
But I agree with Ramps - a game against North aint no blockbuster
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Ok people time to make a call here, please do not come back with the old; don't get cocky or you never know or any other excuses. We will win this game and we will win by a great margin!!!!!!!!!! There is no excuse now, we are the strongest we have ever been ATM going into round one. Carlton on the other hand will go in very under maned.
If you come back with a post saying anything else than we will win then you are kidding yourself, time to stand up and Tigers and win these games. In the past we have lost to undermaned teams, there are no excuses now.
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Ok people time to make a call here, please do not come back with the old; don't get cocky or you never know or any other excuses. We will win this game and we will win by a great margin!!!!!!!!!! There is no excuse now, we are the strongest we have ever been ATM going into round one. Carlton on the other hand will go in very under maned.
If you come back with a post saying anything else than we will win then you are kidding yourself, time to stand up and Tigers and win these games. In the past we have lost to undermaned teams, there are no excuses now.
I was very nervous about this game untill I saw what happened at carlton yesterday.Tigers by 45 points.
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Geez I hate when we go in favourites.
I still have nightmares about the Centenary game when Judd was missing to get too cocky about any thought of a win.
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Geez I hate when we go in favourites.
No need to worry. ;D
Head To Head (Mar 26 2009 7:42PM)
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Status Win Select
1003 Carlton Open $1.80
1012 Richmond Open $1.93
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im so happy its almost like we just won a game when i see those stuff.kwit blues out there smashing each other in the face.
Is their a better site to see just before you play them R1, than what OHELP me did. Low act for sure but it couldn't have happened to a better club. Bunch of crooks those pricks are.
I think if anyone from the RFC was to see O Help me out on the street they should thank him dearly.
IMO i think we should win this game now.
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You're right WAT it is time for a line to be drawn in the sand
The tiges are going to smash the blues to a pulp in Round 1 and kick the season off to a flyer
The tiges may not smash them and may lose the first game
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You're right WAT it is time for a line to be drawn in the sand
The tiges are going to smash the blues to a pulp in Round 1 and kick the season off to a flyer
The tiges may not smash them and may lose the first game
Thats the attitude Chuck, there are NO excuses and I don't read the small print....... :whistle
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with what is in store after round 1 i would expect the same old season from the RFC if we fall to the Blues.
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Carlton ignoring the rules. What's new ;D.
Carlton coach Brett Ratten snubs pre-season rules
Mark Stevens | February 25, 2009
CARLTON has instructed its players to ignore NAB Cup trial rules and act as if they are in the cut and thrust of Round 1.
Blues coach Brett Ratten said yesterday he was prepared to accept the consequences of playing under home-and-away conditions in Sunday's quarter-final against Hawthorn.
"We'll just be practising what we'll do for Round 1," Ratten said.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25102778-19742,00.html
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I'm on Ratten's side in this. I wish all clubs had the same mentality and forced the AFL to stop the madness. How the hell you are supposed to PRACTICE your game strategies effectively when the PRACTICE match you are playing in forces significant changes in order to be successful (win). You could see that it significantly affected our game vs Freo when we continually got done (or told to play on) with short kicks to switch or control play from the backline. Any wonder most teams haven't tried to hard to win a NAB Cup game - up until this year at least, you went back to normal rules in the Knockout rounds. :banghead
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The Blues took the first round seriously with the different rules. I wonder if he would've said this if they weren't playing the Hawks.
I don't mind trialing new or changed rules in the preseason. It often shows how ridiculous most of these changes AA comes up are :chuck.
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I'm on Ratten's side in this. I wish all clubs had the same mentality and forced the AFL to stop the madness. How the hell you are supposed to PRACTICE your game strategies effectively when the PRACTICE match you are playing in forces significant changes in order to be successful (win). You could see that it significantly affected our game vs Freo when we continually got done (or told to play on) with short kicks to switch or control play from the backline. Any wonder most teams haven't tried to hard to win a NAB Cup game - up until this year at least, you went back to normal rules in the Knockout rounds. :banghead
agree totally.
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who gives a toss about what Ratten said. His a stuffhead.
Our main concern should be Carlton Round 1 and nothing else.
This circus thats going on at the moment is playing right into the Blues hands like it did with us last year.
I expect a loss Round 1
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who gives a toss about what Ratten said. His a effhead.
Our main concern should be Carlton Round 1 and nothing else.
Didn't read the post did you? That's exactly what Ratten was saying.
This circus thats going on at the moment is playing right into the Blues hands like it did with us last year.
I expect a loss Round 1
You expect a loss in every round.
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who gives a toss about what Ratten said. His a effhead.
Takes one to know one
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I'm not quite sure what he means. If the player kicks 15 mtrs and is told to play on ... what? Is he going to stop and pretend he's been paid the mark? So the player kicks backwards and is not paid the mark is he going to do the same?
Yeah good luck with that.
The only rule I can think of is the rushed behind rule. Big deal, if the game is close they're going to just rush the ball through for the final few minutes. Yep I can see that working.
What are the other rule changes. As far as I can make out they're just going to be practising losing the game, being tackled and giving away fee kicks.
If you're playing the game you've got to play the rules no matter how silly or inappropriate they may seem.
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I'm not quite sure what he means. If the player kicks 15 mtrs and is told to play on ... what? Is he going to stop and pretend he's been paid the mark? So the player kicks backwards and is not paid the mark is he going to do the same?
Yeah good luck with that.
That would be great to see, I would enjoy seeing a blue or two getting absolutely creamed after claiming a non NAB cup mark. Hopefully so bad they wont make R1.
As RROFO said just cant see them doing what Ratten said.
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I'm not quite sure what he means. If the player kicks 15 mtrs and is told to play on ... what? Is he going to stop and pretend he's been paid the mark? So the player kicks backwards and is not paid the mark is he going to do the same?
Yeah good luck with that.
The only rule I can think of is the rushed behind rule. Big deal, if the game is close they're going to just rush the ball through for the final few minutes. Yep I can see that working.
What are the other rule changes. As far as I can make out they're just going to be practising losing the game, being tackled and giving away fee kicks.
If you're playing the game you've got to play the rules no matter how silly or inappropriate they may seem.
and will Rattan tell the umps don't worry about the three extra points for any goal we kicked outside the 50m???
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Round 1 tickets are now on sale at Ticketek
http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=RICHM0109
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Round 1 tickets are now on sale at Ticketek
http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=RICHM0109
do you know if thats for afl memebers also.
I have about 15 tickets to buy, both club and afl and was told friday is the day.
Can someone confirm?
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Round 1 tickets are now on sale at Ticketek
http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=RICHM0109
do you know if thats for afl memebers also.
I have about 15 tickets to buy, both club and afl and was told friday is the day.
Can someone confirm?
Not sure daniel but the ticketek site has "AFL Reserve (allocation exhausted)" and then when you select it it says "On Sale Soon: Fri 06 Mar 2009 9:00AM (AEDT)".
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Round 1 tickets are now on sale at Ticketek
http://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=RICHM0109
do you know if thats for afl memebers also.
I have about 15 tickets to buy, both club and afl and was told friday is the day.
Can someone confirm?
Not sure daniel but the ticketek site has "AFL Reserve (allocation exhausted)" and then when you select it it says "On Sale Soon: Fri 06 Mar 2009 9:00AM (AEDT)".
thanks for that
just called the afl and yes out on sale for AFL members today for club.
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Round one ticket information
richmondfc.com.au
3:25 PM Mon 02 March, 2009
Richmond's clash with Carlton in round one is shaping to be a blockbuster match, with a large crowd anticipated.
The Richmond Football Club encourages any patrons wishing to attend the game to pre-book a reserved seat through Ticketek to guarantee admission and avoid disappointment.
Below are the on-sale dates for Club member and general public reserved seat sales at Telstra Dome and the MCG.
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Venue On-sale Date Ticket agent
MCG – Club member 9am, Mon Ticketek – www.ticketek.com.au,
reserved seat upgrades March 2 all Ticketek outlets or phone 132 849
MCG – General public 9am, Tue Ticketek – www.ticketek.com.au,
reserved seating March 10 all Ticketek outlets or phone 132 849
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During the members on-sale period, members will only be able to purchase tickets for themselves if they hold a membership with entry entitlements to the game.
At the time of upgrading to a daily ticket, members will have the opportunity to purchase additional tickets for non-members (as long as there is at least one member upgrade in the transaction).
Members without entry entitlements (including members who already hold a season reserved seat and non-access members) will be required to wait until the public on-sale to purchase tickets.
Please note - Members wishing to purchase a reserved seat upgrade will be required to quote the 12-digit membership barcode number printed on your membership card.
Season reserved seating is available through the Club by calling 1300 136 605.
http://richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/72743/default.aspx
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I am looking to sit behind the goals on level 1 as normal in the GA but until it's declared a fully ticketed those seats wouldn't be for sale, would they?
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Ratten is complaining about Carlton having to travel to Bunbury, WA to play Freo prior to our round 1 game.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/72982/default.aspx
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Then they get a week off before the season proper starts... ::)
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Ratten is complaining about Carlton having to travel to Bunbury, WA to play Freo prior to our round 1 game.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/72982/default.aspx
Thats where we are moving too once we finish mining, very very soon, the house has just finished being built and we have just about finished furnishing it!!! :thumbsup. Dont know what the limp going on about, best grounds in the West down there... :wallywink
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Got to love this Blues fan comment on Cousins :wallywink.
[Comment From mark]
"do you think the blues will beat the tigers in round 1 and do you think judd will have the the better of cousins given that one gets the hard ball and one does not"
Here's Bruce Matthews view on round 1 btw:
"Carlton would have to start favourite, but not having Nick Stevens available because of the one-match suspension is a worry, given his rebound off half-back. Perhaps Gibbs can do that job. I think the Blues are further advanced than Richmond right now. I think it's safe to say that Judd will be more value than Cousins. He's flying after the first uninterrupted pre-season for a while"
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25165069-19762,00.html
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There's a deja vu about round 1 this year. Plenty of commentators taking preseason results seriously and pumping up Carlton before a ball has been bounced.
As for Cousins not winning the hard ball :stupid.
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The Club is reminding supporters via email to pre-book tickets for round 1...
ROUND 1 TICKETS
The RFC encourages any patrons wishing to attend the Richmond v Carlton game to pre-book a reserved seat through Ticketek to guarantee admission and avoid disappointment.
Round one ticket information
richmondfc.com.au
Richmond's clash with Carlton in round one is shaping to be a blockbuster match, with a large crowd anticipated.
The Richmond Football Club encourages any patrons wishing to attend the game to pre-book a reserved seat through Ticketek to guarantee admission and avoid disappointment.
Below are the on-sale dates for Club member and general public reserved seat sales at Telstra Dome and the MCG.
MCG – Club member reserved seat upgrades
9am, Mon March 2
Ticketek – www.ticketek.com.au, all Ticketek outlets or phone 132 849
MCG – General public reserved seating
9am, Tue March 10
Ticketek – www.ticketek.com.au, all Ticketek outlets or phone 132 849
During the members on-sale period, members will only be able to purchase tickets for themselves if they hold a membership with entry entitlements to the game.
At the time of upgrading to a daily ticket, members will have the opportunity to purchase additional tickets for non-members (as long as there is at least one member upgrade in the transaction).
Members without entry entitlements (including members who already hold a season reserved seat and non-access members) will be required to wait until the public on-sale to purchase tickets.
Please note - Members wishing to purchase a reserved seat upgrade will be required to quote the 12-digit membership barcode number printed on your membership card.
Season reserved seating is available through the Club by calling 1300 136 605.
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Those arrogant sobs at the site "Talking Carlton" believe they are going to flog us by over 40 with Fev kicking 7 goals.Their confidence is absolutley sickening.
Worth a look if you need another reason to hate them.
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Those arrogant sobs at the site "Talking Carlton" believe they are going to flog us by over 40 with Fev kicking 7 goals.Their confidence is absolutley sickening.
Worth a look if you need another reason to hate them.
A little off-topic, but over at Saintsational, many ladder predictions have them finishing 2nd or 3rd :sleep
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Is that 2nd or 3rd last wayne lol.
Those arrogant sobs at the site "Talking Carlton" believe they are going to flog us by over 40 with Fev kicking 7 goals.Their confidence is absolutley sickening.
Worth a look if you need another reason to hate them.
So Tucky doesn't exist and someone should remind them we had no Cotch, Cogs or Cuz in round 1 last year when we knocked them off :wallywink. T
The way they are carrying on about how good they are after losing to Geelong is quite funny. Sure they had Fev, Judd, Murphy and Gibbs missing but Geelong were without Bartel, Selwood, Enright, Scarlett, Harley and Mooney plus Hawkins was off injured early on and they had a half-fit Steve Johnson playing his first game for the year. Geelong just did what they had to do to win while the Blues were going flat chat :sleep.
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Is that 2nd or 3rd last wayne lol.
Those arrogant sobs at the site "Talking Carlton" believe they are going to flog us by over 40 with Fev kicking 7 goals.Their confidence is absolutley sickening.
Worth a look if you need another reason to hate them.
So Tucky doesn't exist and someone should remind them we had no Cotch, Cogs or Cuz in round 1 last year when we knocked them off :wallywink. T
The way they are carrying on about how good they are after losing to Geelong is quite funny. Sure they had Fev, Judd, Murphy and Gibbs missing but Geelong were without Bartel, Selwood, Enright, Scarlett, Harley and Mooney plus Hawkins was off injured early on and they had a half-fit Steve Johnson playing his first game for the year. Geelong just did what they had to do to win while the Blues were going flat chat :sleep.
I was going to say I dont think they have heard of Tuck MT...To them we have only 3 midfielders in our whole team-Lids,Axel and Tambling.
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It's talk like that which makes it all the more galling when we lose to these ignorant lying cheating tanking Mongrels. Plus Carlton always seem to be there stealing our limelight and running off with it, thus leaving us in their wake.
This round 1 fixture will be more heartbreaking for us as a club if we go down and will set a trend for the rest year. In so many words me gets the feeling if the Blues win we may not recover and have a poor season yet if we win we will have a good season and probably make the 8 barring injuries to key personnel and suspensions whereas for the Blues a round 1 loss to us won't be doom and gloom.
Either way we need to put the boot into them otherwise we may be singing after a win come round 4 and by that stage of the year we'll need to be travelling at 66% win loss for the remaining 18 rounds to finish 13-9 and be certain of finals.
Although we had an excellent finish results wise to last season you need to put everything into persepective that when the heat was on against Adelaide we failed abysmally and we surrendered meekly to Carlton in the last quarter also. The loss to Geelong was a given and was always on the cards.
Furthermore wins in the second half of the year can be deceiving as teams are tanking/jostling and manipulating their positions to attain the best draft picks and others may be resting players for finals or for next season.
Although we won 8 games in the second half the ones that actually meant the most were Port Essendon Brisbane as they were against teams around us on the ladder and they were mini elimination finals, but the final margins were 4 4 and 3 points. It easily could have been a 5-6 second half and a finish of 8 13 and 1. Even the game against Hawthorn I can't help but feel was slightly tainted due to the Hawks eyeing off finals and playing with other things on their mind. Although we were weakened with Axel missing that day I still feel we are a long way off. We match up well with the Hawks but we really struggle against the Cats.
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Tuckerbag,sure we had some close wins last year but there were some close losses as well.I think 11 wins was a fair return for our season.
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Not at all mat I think 11.5 wins was sensational considering that 3.5 was the total for 2007. The point I am trying to make is that in the 2nd half of the season depending on the draw you can come across some teams who have put the cue in the rack and that can exentuate your win loss ratio.
Nevertheless the finish to our season and events in the draft has provided us with a boost in terms of profile confidence members and cash. All good. However there are still deficiencies we need to address in the side and that is the point I am also trying to project. 4 wins under 10 pts 1 loss under 10 pts and a draw was the final statistic. Our 11-10-1 could easily have been an 8-13-1. Such is the closeness of the comp.
Just as a stat in 1994 when me made a huge stride and we finished 12-10 we were 5-2 in games that finished with margins of 18 pts or less and in 1995 when we reached the prelim we were 15-6-1 after HA season
which included 7 wins under 18 points including the Bombers in the 2nd semi 2 losses and a draw.
In 1996 we finished 11-11 in 9th with a record of 1 win 6 losses in the close ones under 18 points.
In 2001 we finished 15-7 including a 4-0 record in the close ones
in 2002 our record was 7-15 including 3-5 win loss record in close games.
We sometimes with the psyche we may have due to the lack of success we have experienced may have overestimated the abilities of our side. We all may be guilty of it due to the fact we desperately want to achieve success and we are thinking positive thinking the glass is half full due to our youth and our finish last year as opposed to it being half empty.
I am trying to possibly draw parrallell lines with 94-96 and 2001-02 in terms of periods in our history of moderate success where our follow up years after we took a large stride we made critical errors both on and off field and we fell back. That is the fear I have. It's only a natural emotion I have after the lack of success we have had to endure since 1982.
According to the above stats I have presented we are possibly at the evolution of where we were at in 1995 now. A breakout year into the 8. Again if the stats are anything to go by we will do okay against the teams around us eg the Lions Bombers Port Blues Freo. In order to make the leap into the 8 we need to beat the Adelaide's, North's and Sydney's of this world just like we beat the Hawks Eagles and Essendon's in 1995 and entrentched ourselves. The key is the follow up season how the club, administrators coaches and players react to it that will make or break us. :pray
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The word at the MCG this week was that 80,000 are expected for the Richmond-Carlton, Cousins-Judd opener.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/nrl/story/0,27074,25178885-14823,00.html
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The word at the MCG this week was that 80,000 are expected for the Richmond-Carlton, Cousins-Judd opener.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/nrl/story/0,27074,25178885-14823,00.html
I'm one of them! Flying down on Tiger Airways too!!! :gotigers
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The wife and I are flying over from Perth for Round 1....Never been to a Tiger home game before let alone a game at the "G".
Words cant describe how EXCITED I am.!!!!!!!!!
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beating carlton will come down to can we stop there midfield, we will incur losses on whoever plays on Judd but the other carlton mids can be stopped and we have some players who can do jobs. Thomson on Gibbs just 1 example.
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The wife and I are flying over from Perth for Round 1....Never been to a Tiger home game before let alone a game at the "G".
Words cant describe how EXCITED I am.!!!!!!!!!
WOW dude you are in for a treat and picked a great game. Dare say you will be BLOWN away by a fanatical tiger army at close to it's best, let's hope the team can do the job. Either way, don't think you will ever forget it :thumbsup
Seriously you haven't seen a game until you have been to a match like this at the home of the Tiger and football, you'll be able to taste the electricity in the air.
::WARNING:: Be prepared this is feral rivalry at its best
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Green with envy] enjoy the experience Matto you will see just how behind Subi is
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Green with envy] enjoy the experience Matto you will see just how behind Subi is
As long as he doesn't see how behind Richmond is!! :'(
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The wife and I are flying over from Perth for Round 1....Never been to a Tiger home game before let alone a game at the "G".
Words cant describe how EXCITED I am.!!!!!!!!!
I just hope you get a chance to sing the song after the game mat.
No sweeter feeling than belting it out at the 'G with other Tiger fans in full voice, especially after beating the Blue scum.
Enjoy the game. 8)
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Thanks guys ,Now Im even more EXCITED.
Looking forward to going to a game where the support is 50/50 instead of 95/5% we get at Subi.
The wife is excited too......more about the shopping than the game I suspect.
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At least we did better than what the Blues are going the minute against Freo. 20 points down and playing in 30 degree heat lol.
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Blues big man Simon Wiggins was reported for rough conduct earlier in the second quarter after laying a tackle on Dockers rookie Greg Broughton and faces a nervous wait to discover his fate ahead of the round one clash with Richmond in a fortnight.
http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24153&start=60
Rumour on talking carlton is Grigg may have done his hammy. Not confirmed.
And to top it off Jordan Russell tackled Judd his teammate by mistake as Judd was bursting out of a pack :rollin.
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Blues big man Simon Wiggins was reported for rough conduct earlier in the second quarter after laying a tackle on Dockers rookie Greg Broughton and faces a nervous wait to discover his fate ahead of the round one clash with Richmond in a fortnight.
http://www.talkingcarlton.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24153&start=60
Rumour on talking carlton is Grigg may have done his hammy. Not confirmed.
And to top it off Jordan Russell tackled Judd his teammate by mistake as Judd was bursting out of a pack :rollin.
How important is Wiggins to the Blues structure?
A little off the point but I just read on another site that the game may be fully ticketed and 50-60 thousand tickets have already been sold! :help I think I'll have to buy a ticket! :o
Stripes
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Freo flogged the Blues by 43 points.
Wiggins and ex-Demon Chris Johnson were reported.
Grigg out with a hammy.
Not a good night for the bluebaggers in a full dress-rehersal.
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Wiggins is just a passenger in their line up so I would not worry too much. If anything I almost hope he gets off as he has minimal impact and who knows if they are forced to play someone in his possie he may have a night out against us which would be horrific.
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The Blues, boasting a near full strength side including skipper Chris Judd, were outgunned by the youthful Freo side 20.6 (126) to 12.11 (83).
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/73241/default.aspx
:thumbsup
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Grigg is a bigger loss for them than Wiggins. They now need to find another tagger for Lids.
I see on BF Foxsports news is saying Fev has hurt his ankle last night. He apparently came back on afterwards so he may have just rolled it at the time and will be okay for round 1 but Kel could still test it out early in the game ;).
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Grigg is a bigger loss for them than Wiggins. They now need to find another tagger for Lids.
Gibbs did a good job on Lids last game they played :-[.
I think they'll go head to head again.
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Grigg is a bigger loss for them than Wiggins. They now need to find another tagger for Lids.
Gibbs did a good job on Lids last game they played :-[.
I think they'll go head to head again.
Then Lids should continually push forward and drag Gibbs out of the play and out his comfort zone as he doesn't have the athleticism in a one-on-mark duel to go with Lids. Having said that with no Stevens and Jacko tagging Judd then Gibbs becomes their 2nd most dangerous midfielder to us. We may go with a run with player on Gibbs to shutdown his effectiveness. Murphy may still get a fair bit of the ball but his kick isn't as good or penetrating as Judd or Gibbs' which is important when nearly every kick forward goes in Fev's direction.
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Mike on SEN after midnight. Story by his son Tony that there's fears Fev has broken his foot and could miss round 1. Had scans Sunday morning. A Carlton fan on BF said the doctors have said it isn't broken.
Edit: 1am
Tony has elaborated.
Fev did some injury his ankle/foot during the Freo game but thought he'd be okay. When he got home it was still sore. He contracted the Blues club doctor and he went for scans Sunday morning. Scans have shown there's nothing severe such as a broken foot or anything like that but he's done some tendon/ligament injury and he is in doubt for round 1. Fev was on crutches yesterday.
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Fev did some injury his ankle/foot during the Freo game but thought he'd be okay. When he got home it was still sore. He contracted the Blues club doctor and he went for scans Sunday morning. Scans have shown there's nothing severe such as a broken foot or anything like that but he's done some tendon/ligament injury and he is in doubt for round 1. Fev was on crutches yesterday.
Part of me wishes he'll be ok to play against us because of the round 1 spectacle but then I bitchslapped myself back into some common sense as no-one will care come finals time.
Fingers crossed he misses because safe to say that would be a huge advantage and go a long way towards gaining 4 precious points to kickstart our season.
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from today's Australian....
Carlton full-forward Brendan Fevola will have precautionary scans today after limping off with a foot injury against Fremantle in a practice match at Bunbury in Western Australia on Saturday.
The Blues, who did not arrive back in Melbourne until 5am yesterday after a delayed charter flight home, are anxiously waiting on Fevola's medical report after a clash with opponent Chris Tarrant. They are hoping the damage is restricted to bruising.
Shaun Grigg is in doubt for the opening round because of a hamstring strain.
Carlton could field as many as three rookie-listed players against Richmond at the MCG on Thursday week. Impressive pre-season form could pave the way for the Blues to upgrade ruckman Sam Jacobs, tagger Aaron Joseph and forward Jeffery Garlett to their primary list.
As well, teenage forward Mitch Robinson, recruited from Tasmania in last year's national draft, could make his senior debut against the Tigers.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25190950-5012432,00.html
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Fevola set for round one despite bruised heel
By Ben Broad
Mon 16 March, 2009
CARLTON superstar Brendan Fevola is expected to train this week despite leaving the ground with a bruised heel in his team’s NAB Challenge loss to Fremantle at the weekend.
Carlton is also hoping exciting youngster Shaun Grigg overcomes a hamstring niggle in time for the clash. He too left the field against Fremantle at the weekend.
Full article at:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/73260/default.aspx
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Let's hope they both play (and reinjure themselves in first two minutes)
:lol
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I don't really care, I'm more interested in Foley's condition. ???
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from today's Australian....
Carlton could field as many as three rookie-listed players against Richmond at the MCG on Thursday week. Impressive pre-season form could pave the way for the Blues to upgrade ruckman Sam Jacobs, tagger Aaron Joseph and forward Jeffery Garlett to their primary list.
As well, teenage forward Mitch Robinson, recruited from Tasmania in last year's national draft, could make his senior debut against the Tigers.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25190950-5012432,00.html
How many times do players these bob up and biatchslap us :banghead
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I hope Fev plays underdone so he can still absorb most of their F50 but will struggle to convert. The ideal situation for me if it eventuates.
Stripes
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I hope Fev plays underdone so he can still absorb most of their F50 but will struggle to convert. The ideal situation for me if it eventuates.
Stripes
rubbish
i dont want him to play at all.
we have had our turn at valuable players missing so its about time other clubs suffered as we have.
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I hope Fev plays underdone so he can still absorb most of their F50 but will struggle to convert. The ideal situation for me if it eventuates.
Stripes
rubbish
i dont want him to play at all.
we have had our turn at valuable players missing so its about time other clubs suffered as we have.
Now that's the type of replies I am used to seeing from you Daniel. Direct and to the point. None of this measured responses that you have been writing of late. ;)
Carlton are very 'Fev-centric' much the same as we were with Rich because of his ability to win the game off his own boot but as we are too too familiar with at Tigerland, any over reliance upon one target (no matter how good a player he is) is dangerous. With Fev playing Carlton becomes more predictable and if he is playing underdone then even better. A 70% fit Fev playing is actually better than no Fev at all because the Blues will be forced to become more unpredictable and, heaven forbid, share the goal scoring around targetting the best leading option rather than just the same target every time.
This is why I hope he plays but plays underdone.
Stripes
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I want Fev to play because I want us to smash their best availible team.I dont want to hear any pathetic excuses from them.
Carton Suck Carlton Suck Carlton Suck Carlton Suck.
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SEN just said Wiggins got his off his charge. The Match Review Committee through it out.
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Wasn't Stevens already suspended for round 1? ???
Match review panel offers Stevens one week ban
By David Reed 4:51 PM Mon 16 March, 2009
CARLTON faces the prospect of being without Nick Stevens for their season opener against Richmond after he was charged with striking by the match review panel.
Stevens was cited after a clash with Fremantle's Nic Suban in the NAB Challenge match in Bunbury and even an early guilty plea will see him banned for a match.
The incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), low impact (one point) and body contact (one point) drawing 125 demerit points.
The problem for Stevens is that he has been suspended within the past three years which increases the penalty by 10 per cent to 137.50 points. He also has 68.75 carry over points taking his total to 206.25 points and a two-match sanction.
An early plea reduces this by 25 per cent to 154.69 points and a one-match ban.
He risks a two-match ban if he rolls the dice and takes his case to the tribunal.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/73286/default.aspx
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Yes he was already susended MT.
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Yes he was already susended MT.
Cheers WAT.
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It makes no difference to our game but Stevens is challenging the charge and risks being out until round 4.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/73319/default.aspx
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Gibbs wants to match-up on Cousins.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/73337/default.aspx
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It makes no difference to our game but Stevens is challenging the charge and risks being out until round 4.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/73319/default.aspx
3aw just said Stevens got the charge downgraded at the tribunal but he still copped a week lol.
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It makes no difference to our game but Stevens is challenging the charge and risks being out until round 4.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/73319/default.aspx
3aw just said Stevens got the charge downgraded at the tribunal but he still copped a week lol.
He was going to miss the match against us as he was carrying a week from last year, but its always good to see Carlton get their right wack
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Caro reckons Carlton will win on Thursday night week.
She is also tipping Judd to get back to his best and win the Brownlow.
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Brendan Fevola's OK despite crutches drama
Jon Ralph | March 18, 2009
BRENDAN Fevola is on crutches just eight days before Carlton's season opener against Richmond, but the club maintains he will play.
Fevola is one of the main drawcards for the blockbuster MCG clash against the Tigers and their new recruit Ben Cousins, which is expected to draw 80,000 fans next Thursday night.
The Blues spearhead bruised his heel in a marking collision against Fremantle in Bunbury on Saturday and was still on crutches at the club's private training session yesterday.
But Carlton manager Steven Icke said he had been cleared of any bone damage, and yesterday emphatically stated Fevola would be playing against the Tigers.
"We expect him to play in Round 1. He's protecting the heel. but the advice we have been given is that he will play Round 1, that he will be available for Round 1," Icke said yesterday.
He said there was nothing alarming about a player being on crutches only a week out from a game.
Doctors often require players to use protective moon boots or crutches to give their injured joints total rest.
Icke said Fevola was likely to hit the training track early next week.
"(The crutches) are just a way of keeping any sort of contact off the heel," he said.
"He will train this week, but he may not do work on the ground, he may do his work in the gym and the pool.
"We will basically keep him off his feet, and let the bruise come out, then we expect him to train fully next week."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25203016-19742,00.html
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Trying to out-play Foley's injury. ;D
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Gibbs wants to match-up on Cousins.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/73337/default.aspx
We should put Thomson on him and try and cut him out of the game.
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Really undecided going into this game, probably the most undecided I have ever been going into round one!! I really thought we would cream the Blues come round one but with our injuries and our shakey pre-season I am not so sure. I don't want to hear about the pre-season not meaning anything either. I just have a bad feeling that based on what I have seen and read we will go into this game pumped up like a hot air balloon and do one of the following:
1. Overuse the handball
2. Turn the ball over out of the backline and centre
3. Concentrate too much on this freaking rolloing zone that I am sick of
4. Panic and end up Richo and Cousins focused
5. Miss goals and lose confidence'
We need to get a really good start in this game, this is an area we have really let ourselves down in the past, partucularly round one. We must also focus on forward pressure and prevent the Blues from running the ball out of our forward line so easily. Cousins, Deledio and Foley must play out of the centre from the bounce. If Foley is injured then I would play Brown out of the centre from the start in his place.
Skill level will also play an extremely important part in this game, we must hit targets from the first bounce, no excuses.
We can win this game but we must be switched on from the opening bounce.... GO TIGES
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Not that easy to pick a side. Still struggling with the back and forward flanks..wish Cotchin & Connors were available.
B Tambling McGuane Thursfield
HB Rance Moore Newman(c)
C Richardson Deledio Cousins
HF Morton Riewoldt Bowden
FF: Brown Schulz Edwards
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
IC: Polo Thomson Browne McMahon
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Not that easy to pick a side. Still struggling with the back and forward flanks..wish Cotchin & Connors were available.
B Tambling McGuane Thursfield
HB Rance Moore Newman(c)
C Richardson Deledio Cousins
HF Morton Riewoldt Bowden
FF: Brown Schulz Edwards
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
IC: Polo Thomson Browne McMahon
I think you have only got 1 wrong in the 22 MM. Raines will play R1 instead of Rance. Possibles are Jackson/White for Polo/Thomson.
As for the team, I agree with the mids and forwards, I think the back 6 will be:
B Raines McGuane Thursfield
HB Tambling Moore Newman(c)
Pretty happy with the look of the team regardless. Throw in Cotchin and it looks even better. Rance, Vickery, Post and Collins are kids I think will make it. Johnson, Hislop, Coughlan, Hughes, Pattison, Jackson, White, King and Pettifer are depth. Nahas and Connors are kids with decent potential but a question mark. All in all, there is a group here who have every right and expectation of giving a good account of themselves.
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I think you have only got 1 wrong in the 22 MM. Raines will play R1 instead of Rance. Possibles are Jackson/White for Polo/Thomson.
Ta smokey. it's really just the team I'd pick.
He'll likely be picked in Wallace's team but I am not a wrap for Andrew Raines (loved the way his old man played) but I want him well out of the back half and he's not in my 22.
I also think Terry will pick McMahon ahead of Polo, in fact it's a cert. :P
Gus Graham will likely play round 1 ahead of Browne too.
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I think you have only got 1 wrong in the 22 MM. Raines will play R1 instead of Rance. Possibles are Jackson/White for Polo/Thomson.
Ta smokey. it's really just the team I'd pick.
He'll likely be picked in Wallace's team but I am not a wrap for Andrew Raines (loved the way his old man played) but I want him well out of the back half and he's not in my 22.
I also think Terry will pick McMahon ahead of Polo, in fact it's a cert. :P
Gus Graham will likely play round 1 ahead of Browne too.
Yep, I think you are correct on all 3 of these.
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The RFC site now has a countdown clock till the game starts
(http://www.afl.com.au/portals/0/images/promos/club_countdown_rich.jpg)
7 days 2 hours to go
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Not that easy to pick a side. Still struggling with the back and forward flanks..wish Cotchin & Connors were available.
B Tambling McGuane Thursfield
HB Rance Moore Newman(c)
C Richardson Deledio Cousins
HF Morton Riewoldt Bowden
FF: Brown Schulz Edwards
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
IC: Polo Thomson Browne McMahon
I think you have only got 1 wrong in the 22 MM. Raines will play R1 instead of Rance. Possibles are Jackson/White for Polo/Thomson.
As for the team, I agree with the mids and forwards, I think the back 6 will be:
B Raines McGuane Thursfield
HB Tambling Moore Newman(c)
Pretty happy with the look of the team regardless. Throw in Cotchin and it looks even better. Rance, Vickery, Post and Collins are kids I think will make it. Johnson, Hislop, Coughlan, Hughes, Pattison, Jackson, White, King and Pettifer are depth. Nahas and Connors are kids with decent potential but a question mark. All in all, there is a group here who have every right and expectation of giving a good account of themselves.
I know Jordie doesn't have many fans but he will be part of the starting back six.
B: Raines Moore Thursfield
F: Betts Fevola Kreuzer
HB: McMahon McGuane Newman
HF: Houlihan Cloke Walker
C: Richo Deledio Tambling
C: Waite Gibbs Simpson
HF: Brown Reiwoldt Cousins
HB: Johnson Bower Hadley
F: Bowden Schulz Morton
B: Thornton Jamison Armfield
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
R: Hampson Judd Murphy
Int: Graham/Browne, Jackson, White, Edwards
Int: Yarran, Russell, Robinson, Wiggins
Emg: Polo, Thomson, Rance
I'm assuming Grigg and Scotland won't play for the Blues. Jacobs could come in (just promoted off the rookie list) as another ruck to free up Kreuzer. Joseph was also promoted.
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Didn't think Browne could play for us being a Rookie??
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Didn't think Browne could play for us being a Rookie??
We can still promote him early next week I believe before the game with Petts on the LTIL until round 3.
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Mmmm interesting prospect MT, maybe they are waiting to see who will fit the club better at the moment, Browne or Nahas, my money would be on Browne from what I have heard.
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Bring on Ben Cousins
Jon Ralph | March 20, 2009 12:00am
CARLTON captain Chris Judd can't wait to line up against former teammate and Richmond recruit Ben Cousins, and is predicting they will be direct opponents at times on Thursday night.
Judd has been in regular contact with Cousins, whose erratic behaviour led to him taking over the West Coast captaincy in 2006, and said the former Eagle was ready and raring to go.
The Richmond-Carlton blockbuster, which will open the season on Thursday - should draw more than 80,000 fans to the MCG.
Judd revealed yesterday he had finally been able to do the leg weights that have given him back his breakneck speed and power after groin problems.
And with Cousins fresh from two excellent pre-season performances for Richmond, fellow Brownlow medallist Judd said he was counting down the days to the Round 1 clash.
"I really am (looking forward) to it. Like everyone I have followed his progress and by the sounds of it he had a great game on the weekend, so we are looking forward to playing not only him, but the entire Richmond football club next Thursday," Judd said.
While Judd is sure to have a Tiger tagger such as Daniel Jackson firmly at his side for most of the night, he said he and Cousins were sure to cross paths.
Two of the champions of the modern era are ready to square off against each other, even if only briefly.
"Particularly with the way teams are zoning now, a lot of the time you are not on any one player for any period of time, so there's every possibility we will play on each other for a time, and it will be exciting," Judd said.
"He is going really well. I had a quick chat to him maybe a week ago on the phone. I think I am doing something for his (Nova) radio segment next week. He is going really well," Judd said.
Judd said Carlton was wary of paying attention only to Cousins, and would instead ensure it gave appropriate respect to the whole side.
"The focus won't (just) be on him from our point of view. In the press there will be a lot of focus on him, but from our point of view we will be focusing on the entire footy side," he said.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25213133-19742,00.html
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Regardless of our own opinions on Jackson, surely he will be tagging Judd all game wont he, that is unless he is getting a bath but I would be confident he will be in the starting 18 on Judd initially wont he?
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There are still questions marks over Fev, but it sounds like he will play, they'll probably just stick a needle or two into the foot before the game.
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There are still questions marks over Fev, but it sounds like he will play, they'll probably just stick a needle or two into the foot before the game.
It has never been an issue. Fevola will be in their starting team.
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There were a rumour on SEN this morning that Fev has a "hotspot" but it's probably crap as most SEN rumours are.
Regardless of our own opinions on Jackson, surely he will be tagging Judd all game wont he, that is unless he is getting a bath but I would be confident he will be in the starting 18 on Judd initially wont he?
Yeah you would think so Chucky as Jacko is meant to be our No.1 tagger now. Jacko still needs to get his hands on the ball as well and try to hurt Judd the other way. That 55m goal on the run Jacko kicked at the start of the last quarter last year got us on a roll to win the game.
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There were a rumour on SEN this morning that Fev has a "hotspot" but it's probably crap as most SEN rumours are.
Regardless of our own opinions on Jackson, surely he will be tagging Judd all game wont he, that is unless he is getting a bath but I would be confident he will be in the starting 18 on Judd initially wont he?
Yeah you would think so Chucky as Jacko is meant to be our No.1 tagger now. Jacko still needs to get his hands on the ball as well and try to hurt Judd the other way. That 55m goal on the run Jacko kicked at the start of the last quarter last year got us on a roll to win the game.
Jackson a much better long kick than the dinky crap he does sometimes, kick it long to the goal square son
he might even surprise himsellf.
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The forecast says 24 degrees and fine for next Thursday.
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The forecast says 24 degrees and fine for next Thursday.
lmao
relax one-eyed.
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The forecast says 24 degrees and fine for next Thursday.
lmao
relax one-eyed.
na leave him alone he is excited son as we all are.
we have had to put up with crap on TV for 6 months.
im posted in this hole of a city called Sydney for work till end of April but i have booked in 4 return trips for the first 4 rounds.
bring it on i say. beat the blues and im off to the swan to down a number of pints. smash them and i wont go back to my mrs all weekend,
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The forecast says 24 degrees and fine for next Thursday.
lmao
relax one-eyed.
LOL got another one for ya Ox ;)
TV schedule...
Ch 10 and One HD in Melbourne from 8pm
In Perth One HD is showing game at 7pm WA time, Channel 10 is showing game at 8pm WA time.
Live on Channel 518 (Main Event) from 6:30pm in Qld, NSW and the ACT. One HD won't show the game in Brisbane and Sydney until 11:15pm.
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Fev only did light duties at Carlton's training today. In rehab doing handball only and although he was freestanding he looked to be standing more on his toes with his injured right foot/heal. The Blues believe he'll definitely play Thursday night.
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Fev only did light duties at Carlton's training today. In rehab doing handball only and although he was freestanding he looked to be standing more on his toes with his injured right foot/heal. The Blues believe he'll definitely play Thursday night.
;D
Ducks and Drakes. :cheers
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Bruised heel won't keep Fevola out of big clash
Martin Boulton | March 22, 2009
HE SPENT a few days last week on crutches, but Brendan Fevola will run onto the MCG with his Carlton teammates on Thursday night.
The Blues' spearhead did very little at training yesterday, having suffered a bruised heel in the club's final interclub practice match, although Kade Simpson said it would "take more than that" to keep Fevola out of the club's season-opener, against Richmond at the MCG.
"I don't think anything will keep 'Fev' out of round one," Simpson said. "Big crowd, he'll be there."
The build-up to the clash, featuring former West Coast premiership teammates Chris Judd and Ben Cousins, has been keenly followed by fans and players across the country, with Eagles captain Darren Glass telling the AFL website he would be "glued to the TV" on Thursday night.
Cousins suffered concussion in a NAB Cup quarter-final 25 days ago, but returned to play a full practice match against the Brisbane Lions on the Gold Coast eight days ago.
Simpson said yesterday that Judd had had a seamless pre-season after arriving at the club after season 2007 with a severe groin injury.
"There's a fair bit of hype around the game and Cousins v Judd, but I'm not sure if they'll play on each other," Simpson said. "It might happen once or twice, which would be good for the game."
The Blues' third round pick in last year's national draft, Mitch Robinson, is expected to make his debut after playing half a match with VFL affiliate the Northern Bullants on Friday.
Heath Scotland and Andrew Walker came through the same match after missing the NAB pre-season competition and could also play this week, according to Simpson.
"They both got through a bit over half the match, so they'll definitely be a chance to play," he said.
Football operations manager, Steven Icke, told The Sunday Age Shaun Grigg was expected to play despite training away from the main group yesterday.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/bruised-heel-wont-keep-fevola-out/2009/03/21/1237526398144.html
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If the Blues want to play underdone players again then all the better. They'll be exposed in the last quarter.
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Rumour has it Browne is playing
http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=231778&postcount=550
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Forecast for Thursday
Cloudy. Isolated showers until evening. Light winds tending west to southwesterly up to 30 km/h around dawn.
City Shower or two. Min 16 Max 22
http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDV10450.shtml
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Rumour has it Browne is playing
http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=231778&postcount=550
Great lets hope we hear tomorrow.
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wow!
Andrew Browne 'rumoured' to be playing Round 1?
how brilliant would that be for him!
from reports, he has become Richmond's 2nd best ruckmen after two practice matches!
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Carlton to try out debutants against Tigers
Jake Niall | March 23, 2009
Carlton is expected to play two and possibly 3 debutants on Thursday night - ruckman Sam Jacobs, Mitch Robinson and possibly either Aaron Joseph or Jeff Gartlett, both of whom are on the club's rookie list. Former Demon Chris Johnson will make his Carlton debut.
Brendan Fevola is set to play, despite a heel problem that caused him barely to train on Saturday, but Andrew Walker, who is recovering from a shoulder injury and lacks match conditioning, is unlikely to be ready.
Heath Scotland, too, might not have sufficient conditioning to make the round-one team, although he has gained some fitness from playing the past three games in the VFL.
The major absentee for Carlton is midfielder Nick Stevens, who is suspended, with Andrew Carrazzo missing as he recovers from a broken arm.
With Jacobs sharing ruck duties with Matthew Kreuzer, Carlton will be in a position to play Cameron Cloke as a permanent forward supporting Fevola. Senior coach Brett Ratten has emphasised the need to develop forward targets besides Fevola.
Shaun Grigg, a hard-running midfielder/half-back, is given a good chance of playing, having overcome hamstring tightness. His situation should become clearer after Carlton's training today.
Carlton and Richmond will name their teams by 5pm on Wednesday.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/carlton-to-try-out-debutants/2009/03/22/1237656769670.html
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wow!
Andrew Browne 'rumoured' to be playing Round 1?
how brilliant would that be for him!
from reports, he has become Richmond's 2nd best ruckmen after two practice matches!
Does that say something about Andrew Browne or something about our ruck division? :-\
Good on him anyway if true, hope he has a good night. Talk about a baptism of fire. Fingers crossed he comes through unscathed with body and mind both intact.
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From what i've seen, Sam Jacobs is a lumbering type ruckman, similar to Browne. He's had 3 years in the system though, so he may be a little fitter.
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Fev to play, Scotland likely
By Dave Reed | Mon 23 March, 2009
CARLTON coach Brett Ratten says Brendan Fevola is a certainty and experienced defender Heath Scotland is a likely starter for the Blues' round one match against Richmond at the MCG on Thursday night.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/73562/default.aspx
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AGE PREVIEW
RICHMOND V CARLTON
MCG, Thursday 26 March, 7.40pm
Head to head:
Carlton 115, Richmond 84, Draws 2
Head to head, last five games:
Carlton 2, Richmond 3
Recent history:
Rnd 14, 2008
Carlton 1.5 5.9 10.12 17.16. (118) d
Richmond 2.7 7.9 10.13 12.16 (88)
M.C.G. Crowd: 73503
Rnd 1, 2008
Carlton 4.3 9.6 10.10 11.13 (79)
Richmond 4.3 8.5 11.5 17.7 (109)
M.C.G. Crowd: 72552
Betting
TAB Sportsbet Carlton 1.62, Richmond 2.20
Centrebet Carlton 1.67, Richmond 2.20
Possible line-ups:
Richmond
Raines Thursfield Moore
McMahon McGuane Newman
Foley Cousins Richardson
N Brown Schulz Bowden
Morton Riewoldt Tambling
Simmonds Tuck Deledio
Jackson Graham Edwards White
Emerg: Polo Coughlan Thomson
Missing from best 22: Trent Cotchin
Carlton
Jamison Thornton Bower
Simpson Waite Walker
Hadley Gibbs Grigg
Robinson Fisher Houlihan
Cloke Fevola Betts
Kreuzer Murphy Judd
Garlett Scotland Johnson Jacobs
Emerg: Russell Wiggins Armfield
Missing from best 22: Nick Stevens, Robert Warnock, Andrew Carazzzo
Summary:
These teams swapped wins last season, and appear closely matched again. The fitness cloud over Blues superstar spearhead Brendan Fevola tips the odds in favour of the Tigers. In the round one loss last year, he was off-key, kicked two goals, and Carlton lost. In round 14, he booted four, and the Blues prevailed. Both teams have strong midfields, and young, developing backlines, but Richmond has the edge in the ruck thanks to the mobile, big-bodied Troy Simmonds, and if Fevola is not at the top of its game, the Tigers defence, led by Moore and Thursfield, should be able to limit the Blues to a manageable total. Richmond's spread of potential goalkickers looks wider, with Brett Deledio a force when not scorching around the midfield, Nathan Brown back to full fitness and Morton and Riewoldt fast becoming potent targets. The absence of Stevens and Carazzo will take the edge off Carlton's blue chip midfield, and they could be playing as many as three first-gamers. In what should be a memorable start to the season, the Tigers could again prove good value first-up.
Key:
Brendan Fevola. Simply put, if he plays, fully fit, Carlton are favourites. If not, Richmond should win.
Tip:
Richmond by 18 points
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfmatchpreview/richmond-v-carlton/2009/03/23/1237656818219.html
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Does that say something about Andrew Browne or something about our ruck division? :-\
A bit of both I reckon
Although I think it says alot about Andrew Browne and the work he has put in since drafted.
I think it also says (hopefully) that our ruck stocks are getting a bit deeper which means guys aren't going to be given (gifted) games - that's gotta be a plus
If this rumour is true, then good on the kid
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Not sure about the outs for our best 22 only being Cotchin from the Age report, what about Johnson & Coghlan. The only thing that really worries me about this game and always worries me is this. We have crap starts to games normally, we seem to love letting teams get 4-5 goals up and then play catch up for the night. That is when we really start turning the ball over and over using it.
The key to a win here is a lead of 3 goals in the first qtr to us, then keep the pressure on and build on that lead all game. Muck up the start, let the big game pressure get to us and we could be gone in the 1st... :pray
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Possible line-ups:
Richmond
Raines Thursfield Moore
McMahon McGuane Newman
Foley Cousins Richardson
N Brown Schulz Bowden
Morton Riewoldt Tambling
Simmonds Tuck Deledio
Jackson Graham Edwards White
Emerg: Polo Coughlan Thomson
Missing from best 22: Trent Cotchin
A uninjured Sugar would still be in our best 22 as well. ........ Edit. beat me to it WAT
That side would be close to what we put out on the ground with Gus placed by Browne. Let's hope we kick straight :pray. I agree WAT we can't play catch up footy this time around. Let's come out hard and put some scoreboard pressure on the Blues.
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WAT you worry to much
the boys know whats expected have some belief and trust this is the year of the TIGER
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WAT you worry to much
the boys know whats expected have some belief and trust this is the year of the TIGER
Too many games and years of listening to the hype surrounding round one to then see the team go onto the ground and not back it up. Look we can win no doubt about it and in fact we should win. All I am saying is we need to make a good start, Carlton always seem to get off the mark pretty well. Lets hope we go out there and get it on straight away.
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WAT I will have the radio on tuned in at Leinster a couple of 6 packs and it will be game on and all over by 1/2 time Tiges with a big lead and the blues crying in there blue bonnets
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WAT I will have the radio on tuned in at Leinster a couple of 6 packs and it will be game on and all over by 1/2 time Tiges with a big lead and the blues crying in there blue bonnets
Well good on ya mate, lets hope we can do it. I will be watching the telecast on WIN at 8.30pm in Paraburdoo with about 10 six packs... :thumbsup Good old Leinster, I worked there in 89-91, good town.
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Fev on Ch 7 news said he won't be missing this game. The Blues train tomorrow so we'll see how much training he does.
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All Kel needs to do to test it out is run Fev around and then when he is standing alongside Fev just go how's the foot ..... stomp! :eyebrow
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All Kel needs to do to test it out is run Fev around and then when he is standing alongside Fev just go how's the foot ..... stomp! :eyebrow
How is Kel going MT, didn't get much of a review from Royal and hasn't really shone to date. Is he up to Fev???
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Brendan Fevola says I'll play hurt
Chris de Kretser | March 25, 2009 12:00am
BRENDAN Fevola says his bruised heel is still sore, but it won't stop him playing in tomorrow night's sold-out season opener against Richmond.
"It's sore. I'm still limping," Fevola said yesterday.
The Blues full-forward said he had been receiving intense treatment for the injury that he suffered in a practice match in Bunbury 10 days ago.
Fevola has spent extended time in a hyperbaric chamber and it is possible he will take to the MCG with the aid of painkilling injections.
It is not uncommon for injections to be used on bruised heels and Fevola is known to be comfortable with the prospect.
"I've been in a hyperbaric chamber for four days," he said yesterday.
"The treatment is two hours at a time."
Fans snapped up the last public and AFL Reserve tickets yesterday, meaning a crowd of more than 90,000 is possible.
The number of MCC members who walk up on the night will determine whether the match will break records.
Despite the sell out, Channel 10 is refusing to screen a live broadcast.
The eagerly awaited clash between Ben Cousins and Chris Judd will be shown on a 30-minute delay.
Fevola said he had to wear a gas mask and a big moon helmet during his hyperbaric chamber treatment.
"Thankfully another one of the guys was in there with me the other day so we had a game of poker," he said.
"Otherwise we spend the time playing Monopoly or Scrabble. It's so boring."
Fevola left no doubt he would take the field tomorrow.
He has even rejected an invitation to play poker with some Formula One drivers and Shane Warne at Crown tonight so he has the best preparation for the game.
"I'm playing the next day so I can't be up late," he said.
Channel 10 chiefs last night said they required several days notice to alert the public to a change to its advertised broadcast time.
But Richmond president Gary March last night called on the network to reverse its decision. "I would have thought there was still enough time to change their scheduling," March said.
"It's disappointing for those people who can't get along - it will probably be our biggest home-and-away game, with a finals-like atmosphere."
Tomorrow's forecast is 22C with a few light showers.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25238006-19742,00.html
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Step, Stomp and do whatever you like Kelvin.
Fev is fair game. :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Why is everyone assuming Kel will go too Fev?
For mine:
Thurstfield to Fevola: Fevola has never been a huge stand and mark foward, he is average over head but lethal on the lead. Therfore I would put our most conservative backman on him allowing him to just concentrate on Fev rather then Moroe or McGuane who offer more rebound. Newman loose man in defence helping out.
Moore on Cloke: Cloke while play up the ground which will allow Moore to slot in at CHB. This means Moore won't have to follow Cloke up the ground so much and will be able to offer more rebound and help out the deeper defenders
McGuane on Kruezer: Kruezer, when foward, generally plays pretty deep. If he goes onto the ruck then put McGuane onto a medium forward like Russel, Fisher or Walker.
Then have Raines on Betts and McMohan or Gartlett/Yarran
In reality Carlton's foward line is really not that impressive. Kruezer is still developing and doesn't have any really outsanding weapons, while Cloke is an honest trier at best. Betts will snag a few as we struggle to mind small fowards, but other then Fev they look light on goal scoring power
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Mostly because Moore has been the man before.
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I for one expect luke mcguane to go to Fevola.
I also expect Mcguane by the end of 2009 to be the tigers best defender.
Mcguane will improve a heap this year. He has had a massive pre-season
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I for one expect luke mcguane to go to Fevola.
I also expect Mcguane by the end of 2009 to be the tigers best defender.
Mcguane will improve a heap this year. He has had a massive pre-season
Was a thursty man and still am but think mcguane like you say will step up big this year from what I have seen so far.
Only ? would be if mguane would be a waste on fev as thursy is more just a stopper type player where luke can cause more damage running off his opponent. Still if Luke was to play on him and hold him like I would expect I dont see where else they are gunna get enough goals to worry us and that of course would be a good move as it wuld just about guarentee us the win.
Man it's tomorrow, far out, Im pumped, ITS HERE - BRING IT ON!
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Yes, enough talk.
Bring it on.
:cheers
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Fevola said he had to wear a gas mask and a big moon helmet during his hyperbaric chamber treatment.
"Thankfully another one of the guys was in there with me the other day so we had a game of poker," he said.
"Otherwise we spend the time playing Monopoly or Scrabble. It's so boring."
Scrabble against Fev would be fun, a heap of 3 letter words and you'd be helping him spell them each time. :lol
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Seems the Blues will be debuting 3 rookies...
Promoted rookie Garlett may debut for Blues
By Jason Phelan | Wed 25 March, 2009
CARLTON has elevated rookie forward Jeff Garlett to its senior list for the injured ruckman Robbie Warnock.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/73700/default.aspx
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Fev didn't train with the main group at Carlton training session today and Ch 10 said he had a noticeable limp. However their footy manager said he trained two days ago and got through fine. Ducks and drakes!
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Fev will probably still play after a jab or two but he won't be anywhere near 100%. Kel make sure you run him around and do the STOMP! ;)
McGuane is for the tallest forwards. You'd expect him to play on either Cloke or Kreuzer. As TA said Kel usually gets Fev and he's done a good job on him last year. Fev only kicked a couple of late goals last time after the game was over and the Blues midfield was way on top.
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We have to be careful that another carlton forward doesnt pop up and slot 4 or 5. In the past that has happened alot.
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We have to be careful that another carlton forward doesnt pop up and slot 4 or 5. In the past that has happened alot.
Especially when it's been some nobody on debut who ends up you never ever see again :scream
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We have to be careful that another carlton forward doesnt pop up and slot 4 or 5. In the past that has happened alot.
Our boys will be on the ball on that and would surely be reminded by Terry. I expect Robinson to be one to pop up and do some damage and as would Garlett, I would also think a late change for them with Scotland out and Armfield in.
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Ben Cousins dominates Carlton plans
Jon Ralph | March 26, 2009
BRETT Ratten watched a horror film last week, minus the cheesy American dialogue.
The Blues' second-year coach had witnessed new Tiger Ben Cousins' handy first-up performance live in the Docklands stands, but this was something else altogether.
Days after a scouting party of Carlton coaches flew to the Gold Coast to watch the Richmond-Brisbane Lions clash, Ratten caught it on DVD.
"I saw one game live, and watched a fair bit (of the other) on video," Ratten said this week.
"(Cousins) was very good last week when (Nathan) Foley went off injured with that ankle.
"He went into the midfield and that real run and carry and his ball use was very good, so he was back to getting close to his best."
Cousins at his best would be enough to turn tonight's game into Fright Night for Ratten's Carlton.
In a 15-minute media conference this week, Ratten alternately pumped up the Cousins-Judd hype, then attempted to push the message his Blues were taking on Richmond, not Cousins alone.
But there was no hiding the intent in his voice when describing Cousins' form. He knows the former Eagle will be more than a bit-parts player this year.
"I think the build-up at the start of the season is big. But with Ben and Chris in the game, it will probably take more focus than probably any game for a long time," Ratten said.
The one commodity Ratten is not short on this week is information. Former Eagles coach Darren Harris - now a Blues development coach - has preached about Cousins' work-rate and game style.
And former teammate Judd has been on hand to impart the type of details that might help the Blues combat his rare brilliance.
Richmond has been subtly pushing the message in recent weeks not to expect too much from Cousins early. Even opinions about his 21 possessions against Collingwood were mixed.
Some argued he won easy touches in a free-flowing contest, butchering more than his fair share of them.
But for a player's first real performance in 19 months, it was extraordinary.
His running power was still clearly apparent and he won the ball at will. While he was rusty early, within a quarter he was breaking lines like the Cousins of old.
Now, after a perfect tune-up against Brisbane, Cousins is by his own admission "ready to go".
His preparation in the past month has been perfect, he has three games under his belt and he is quickly adapting to Richmond's game style.
Much has been made of the hamstring struggles in his last year at West Coast.
But in his 11 completed years at West Coast, he averaged 19.5 games a season without one serious injury.
Ratten predicted Cousins would start the game, but expected any head-to-head Cousins-Judd clash to be circumvented by the heavy tag the Blues captain would receive.
But he kept to himself whether the Blues would run a heavy tag on Cousins.
"First game of the season or any game, you respect the player and who they are . . . We look at all their players. This is what we can do and this is how we will stop it. Ben will be in that assessment as well," he said.
Ratten said Bryce Gibbs was a chance to match up on Richardson if the Tigers playmaker started up the ground.
The Blues have noticed Richmond's key backs cannot be dragged up the field, and might try to exploit that tactic. But the line of questioning kept on being dragged back to you know who.
Eventually Ratten drew his own line when the questions persisted.
"This media conference here has been made up of Ben, but Richmond have got another 20-odd players we will focus on," he said.
"Ben will be a part of it, but the impact Matthew Richardson has on the Richmond football team is pretty big.
"Nathan Brown's performance last week was very good. (Jonathan) Brown was in sparking touch -- he looked like he was back in career-best form up in Brisbane.
"And the way Richmond hold back and their backmen don't push out of that back 50 too much, we will have to have a look at that and how we can score, and it doesn't involve Ben, but we will have a look at that."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25242809-19742,00.html
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"Expert" tips
Herald-Sun: 4 - 10 ......... Mike, Sheeds, Robbo and Bruce Matthews tipped us. Yep you guess it - Damian Barrett tipped Carlton ::).
The Age: 4 - 16 ........ Caro, Rex, Dan Silkstone and a Scottish Terrier.
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Fev will probably still play after a jab or two but he won't be anywhere near 100%. Kel make sure you run him around and do the STOMP! ;)
What foot has Fev hurt?
If it's his kicking foot and he numbs it up, will it affect his kicking?
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We need to put Carlton to sword early tonight. The first 1/2 has to be a full assault. We shouldnt take the chance that this is a close game going into the second, when games become 30 minute games then it becomes difficult. Hopefully we put them away early.
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With Gibbs playing on Richo like he did last time we matched up against the Blues, I suspect he will have another quiet game. Saying this though, Richo was slightly injured last time so maybe he will prove me wrong.
Gartlett on Raines or McMahon will also be interesting. I suspect Rainses will be run down by this fellow creating at least a couple of goals during the game. On the other hand they may use the defensive forward to pressure McMahon desposal thus slowing our drive out of our backhalf. I think the latter is more likely than the former.
Excited about the game and hope Browne and Schulz can shine tonight.
Stripes
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I suspect Rainses will be run down by this fellow creating at least a couple of goals during the game.
Spot on. I had kittens when I saw Raines named in the BP.
Surely Terry's learned by now that the opposition will know to target him at the point of disposal every time.
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Baz on SEN just said that Fev is out and Kreuzer will play FF :lol
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Baz on SEN just said that Fev is out and Kreuzer will play FF :lol
:gotigers
Just hope this doesn't hurt the MCC walk up crowd numbers.
Stripes
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If Fev is out then even more we can't drop our guard. They'll be weaker but more unpredictable up forward as they won't be going to Fev 90% of the time.
I loved how jealous Clarkson and Laidley were this morning. Clarkson saying if Hawthorn was first up they would sell out the 'G too and Laidley won't be watching at all :wallywink.
With Gibbs playing on Richo like he did last time we matched up against the Blues, I suspect he will have another quiet game. Saying this though, Richo was slightly injured last time so maybe he will prove me wrong.
Waite was on Richo last time on a wing and did a reasonable job then took over in the last quarter after Richo went off with that hammy. In round 1 last year Richo up forward gave Jamison a bath.
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If Fev is out then even more we can't drop our guard. They'll be weaker but more unpredictable up forward as they won't be going to Fev 90% of the time.
It was a SEN rumour, so Fev will probably be playing
I loved how jealous Clarkson and Laidley were this morning. Clarkson saying if Hawthorn was first up they would sell out the 'G too and Laidley won't be watching at all :wallywink.
Only if the MCG gave access to all the pet members Hawthorn has :lol
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Well I am coming close to posting my last posts for the evening folks because the game starts in 1hr and 20 minutes and I will be watching the delayed telecast at 8.30pm WST. :'(
Good luck to the boys and I really think we need this win first up, no matter what and there can't be any excuses this time like a lot of people did when we lost in the Heritage round.
It is really time for the RFC to stand up and start playing the football that we expect and SHOULD expect. If you say names like; Deledio, Foley, Richardson, Brown, Cousins, Tuck, Newman, Sanchez, Simmonds & Raines you would expect us to win. These players have been in football long enough now to know how to play these games to win.
The rest of the side now needs to stand up and be counted, if we lose this game I really don't give a poo if we make the finals or not. Round one or not this is a must win for this club in more ways than one. We have the whole football world including the team itself and us supporters running around saying how this is a big year for us a ra ra ra and how good we look.
Well I will say it again, no excuses boys.
Nike....... just stuffing do it!!!!!
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Aaargh what a terrible half, turnover after turnover with poor disposal
Hope the second half is better as this is just too painful to watch. At least I seen Tambo go in real hard against Waite which was pleasing to see.
I think I can hear the sack TW calls already
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Extremely disappointing. White and Morton are about the only players who can hold their heads up. What were the medical staff thinking letting Cuz go back on after he was complaining about his hammy? :banghead Things just went from bad to worse! The skills coach needs to be taken out to the middle of the MCG and shot in front of all Richmond supporters. Evidently the occasion got the better of us - we were like dears caught in the headlights. So embarassing. Cuz must be wondering if this is more punishment for him.
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Robert Walls thought Riewoldt played good. Good would have been if some of his goals went through. Not good enough. But not the only offender.
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The skills coach needs to be taken out to the middle of the MCG and shot in front of all Richmond supporters.
Dont let one of the players do it they would most likely miss! :lol
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hoodwinked.
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Just got home, dont know how i'll feel in the light of day, but i said at the start of pre season, same old players making the same mistakes, we have no skills, we cant hit a target, add that to some bad umpiring decisions and some arsey shots from the blues and some great play by the blues, cousins injury and it all adds up to a shocking night. We were unbelievably bad. We sat behind Michael and Tom Roach and i thought to myself "Tom, they did the right thing getting rid of you, they spared you this poo"
:banghead :banghead
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KAPOW Toothless Pathetic football once again from the same offender RICHMOND FOOTBALL CLUB
where we went wrong
Edwards still looks like he did last year, underdone another David Bourke skinny ribs
Wallace played Raines, the worthless turnover king, oh sorry was that McMahon l missed what a joker, another skinny underdone player worthless.
McGuane flapping them arms around like he was Peter garret from Midnight Oil wtf
Backline setup wrong, we needed King playing down there not Edwards
No Thursfield at the start & Raines down there forget it.
Judd had a dinner with Jackson that was no tag as Judd did as he pleased another big blunder
Medical & Fitness staff hahaha what a laughing stock of the AFL. POW they got that wrong bigtime that another man down at least 4-6 weeks for Cousins.
Tambling can hold his head high he played well but the rest never changes,
Richo misses goals Rewoldt the same skinny kid cant kick for poo
Our percentage shot like the last 25 years will be low at years end but it wont matter cause from 9th 2008 it back to 16th after that floging by a Carlton side with 5 new kids & no Stevens or Carrasso & others
We are the laughing stock of the AFL
only good thing that came out of tonights game was Wallace who positioned the side wrong again will be handing over the job to Sheedy before the end of season & it be goodbye Wallace, Raines, McMahon, Johnson, Simmonds,Edwards,
SKILLS aint nothing changed at TIGERLAND
Next time the Tigers have a huge game they are meant to win please everyone stay home
RICHMOND are scared of big crowds lol
oh & the new captain, PFFT what a joke another no talkin Johnson
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Robert Walls thought Riewoldt played good. Good would have been if some of his goals went through. Not good enough. But not the only offender.
Personally I don't believe Riewoldt is up to it.
:clapping been saying that since he came to the club another skinny who cant kick
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Tonight was not a good night for the club. The continual under performance cannot continue without action.
Players were not interested in the last quarter, it was embarrassing.
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KAPOW Toothless Pathetic football once again from the same offender RICHMOND FOOTBALL CLUB
where we went wrong
Edwards still looks like he did last year, underdone another David Bourke skinny ribs
Wallace played Raines, the worthless turnover king, oh sorry was that McMahon l missed what a joker, another skinny underdone player worthless.
McGuane flapping them arms around like he was Peter garret from Midnight Oil wtf
Backline setup wrong, we needed King playing down there not Edwards
No Thursfield at the start & Raines down there forget it.
Judd had a dinner with Jackson that was no tag as Judd did as he pleased another big blunder
Medical & Fitness staff hahaha what a laughing stock of the AFL. POW they got that wrong bigtime that another man down at least 4-6 weeks for Cousins.
Tambling can hold his head high he played well but the rest never changes,
Richo misses goals Rewoldt the same skinny kid cant kick for poo
Our percentage shot like the last 25 years will be low at years end but it wont matter cause from 9th 2008 it back to 16th after that floging by a Carlton side with 5 new kids & no Stevens or Carrasso & others
We are the laughing stock of the AFL
only good thing that came out of tonights game was Wallace who positioned the side wrong again will be handing over the job to Sheedy before the end of season & it be goodbye Wallace, Raines, McMahon, Johnson, Simmonds,Edwards,
SKILLS aint nothing changed at TIGERLAND
Next time the Tigers have a huge game they are meant to win please everyone stay home
RICHMOND are scared of big crowds lol
oh & the new captain, PFFT what a joke another no talkin Johnson
geez that must have taken some effort... :lol
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;D
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We can harp on all we like about the players and we will but ultimately the players are a reflection of the ethos of what this club currently stands for. Its been hapenning for 27 years and that falls on the off field area. Whether it be board coaches whatever. Occasionally a flower grows out of the dirt but I did say occassionally which means too infrequently and never often enough for it to make an overall significant impact.
Lamentably we have failed in a big game against an opposition who was at either on par with us or just above/below us based on recent seasons 07/08 so we can't have the excuse that we were playing a higher echelon side.
Failure it hurts time and time again.
We can single out individuals who play as they represent the non playing employees but for far too long 27 years to be exact(and counting) its that non playing employees who have determined the destiny of this once great footy club.
Nobody can put a positive spin on this and all we have done is reaffirmed the general concensus that we are marshmallows and failures and when that aptly describes something you love then that really hurts.
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Shocking game plan, we just don't play the zone well. We need to come up with a better more accountable game like man on man.
Anyway its only the first game
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I didn't post when I got home. Too peeed off.
Morton was our only effective forward and the only one who could kick straight apart from his first up miss. Great mark too.
Agree with TM about Blingers. He played well. It was laughable seeing him busting his guts out chasing one Blue after another while his teammates stood and watched and refused to put in any second efforts and in many cases first efforts >:(.
Whitey did okay for the time on the ground he had.
Moore maybe was okay.
We had plenty of prima donnas who obviously were believing their own publicity and resting on last year's 2nd half of the year efforts.
Two of our 3 key defenders Thursty and McGuane had absolute shockers.
Lids - where were you? I knew the white flag had been put up when he was moved to across HB.
Jack - has the yips big time. Not the only one mind you and our set shots have been an issue all preseason as well.
Foley - he played like he had a numb foot from a jab. He couldn't kick properly to save himself. 9 clangers wasn't it :P.
Our older senior players did sweet all while our leadership group had a forgetable night. No one stood up.
Terry had his match-ups wrong and players out of position. Edwards is not a small defender/HBFer even though he has been trialed down there over the preseason. Shane has no idea what he is doing down there. At least when he went forward in the second half while still ordinary he at least had some instinct for where he needed to be. After having a fairly stable backline in last year why alter it by adding both Edwards and Raines. It was the Benny Hill show down there.
Momentum is everything in this game these days and we just screwed ourselves over time and time again. The first 15 minutes we dominated the centre clearances but kicked 1.4 ::) while gifting the Blues 4 goals from our own stupidity when the ball should never have been down in our backline in the first place if we had kicked straight :banghead. We should've been 4 goals up at the start but nup we gift them soft goals which boosts their confidence while draining ours as the mistakes compound and next you know the momentum swings in the middle and we're 5 goals down at 1/4 time. Then next up after conceding the first two goals we kick the next 3 and regain the momentum of the game at least in general play. 28 points down but ahead for the quarter going into time-on and we're at least back in the game. But nup we cough up another two late soft goals when the ball should have again been in our forward line and the game's over. 16 goals directly from our turnovers they said on SEN last night.
Soft, insipid, weak, pathetic .... yep you name it :banghead
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Lids had a shoulder injury in the 2nd quarter. Not bad enough to stop him playing out the game, but would have affected him.
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Lids had a shoulder injury in the 2nd quarter. Not bad enough to stop him playing out the game, but would have affected him.
your point is????
if your on the ground your fit, if your not then go on the bench.
How edwards gets a game over Polo i cannot believe.
Our youngsters are so poo it was like watching Coburg Tigers play Carlton.
Edwrads, Mcmahon, Jackson, Tambling, Raines, Mcguane.
Wow what a list TW has crated with such damagin playings like these ones
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Lids had a shoulder injury in the 2nd quarter. Not bad enough to stop him playing out the game, but would have affected him.
your point is????
if your on the ground your fit, if your not then go on the bench.
I know you're a simpleton, but minor injuries are never that straight forward. If every player stayed on the bench for an injury they could keep playing on at 75%+ and wouldn't get worse, then you'd end up with 15 players on the ground at the end of every match. Fact is he wasn't 100%, that doesn't excuse any lack of effort, but it may go to explain some aspects of his game last night.
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Lids had a shoulder injury in the 2nd quarter. Not bad enough to stop him playing out the game, but would have affected him.
your point is????
if your on the ground your fit, if your not then go on the bench.
How edwards gets a game over Polo i cannot believe.
Our youngsters are so poo it was like watching Coburg Tigers play Carlton.
Edwrads, Mcmahon, Jackson, Tambling, Raines, Mcguane.
Wow what a list TW has crated with such damagin playings like these ones
I can add to that, if you cant kick goals, get out of the forward line, if youcant/dont want to chase get off the ground, if you cant/dont want to tackle get off the ground! :banghead
Oh wait, we wont have a team :banghead
I would rather see 2 players playing their guts out than 18 passengers :banghead
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Not good at all, gutting actually.
Well the hype has been cut out of us, and we will see in the next couple of weeks how we respond.
I cant credit that game to the side that was out there, everything that could have went wrong did. It was a strong side which did not perform, we had the yips in front of goal, we had shocking disposal, we could not mark (McGuane WTF), we were the turnover kings, our disposal was crap, we could not tackle..............
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Discusting, disgracefull, unreal and I feel embarised supporting this club. Why is Edwards a football player??? He should be a stuffing librarian. Brown getting the big bucks for doing stuff all. I said from the start this game needed to be won, I also said that the Blues had a better lead into the season ans had better skills. All I heard was pre season, pre season stuffing pre season, wake up people we wre poo.
For stuffs sake dont any of you even try to blame the coaches.... they don't turn the ball over like the stuffing useless players that we have do.
We have no chance of beating the Cats next week so please dont fool yourselves.
Cousins, poor bloke, now what Richmond, the hype, the player, what he brings to the club, it's all gone you let this poo consume you and look now!!!
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Edwards tackling the opposition would be like being tackled by my 9 year old son. The guy needs to put on some weight!!!!
I'm sorry but I can't see how Tambling was one of our best. Robert Walls was very critical of the number of his disposals and for once I had to agree with him (oh the shame!). Jack Riewoldt also needs to step up. Morton was the only forward who can hold up his head.
BTW on PRE someone said it looked like Richo was crying after the game.
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I'm sorry but I can't see how Tambling was one of our best. Robert Walls was very critical of the number of his disposals and for once I had to agree with him (oh the shame!). Jack Riewoldt also needs to step up. Morton was the only forward who can hold up his head.
BTW on PRE someone said it looked like Richo was crying after the game.
Julz this isn't being critical of you but Robert Walls is a typical commnetator who is "seduced" by stats. It was what Tambling did off the ball that was good, the stuff that isn't seen on the TV, Walls despite being at the game wouldn't notice that. Did Tambling turn it over? Yeah he did at least he was trying unlike some of his other team mates who appeared to be disinterested and thats being very kind
As for Richo when I got home it was said to me that after the game Ch10 focussed on him and he looked devastated on the verge of tears... who can blame him
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I was devestated during and after this game. I had a loud annoying Carlton supporter next to me that I had to physically restrain myself from throwing over the balcony on more than one occasion who actually cheered when Cousins injuried his hamstring! He pointed and sounded like he was going to wet himself with excitment when he witnessed the injury. This was after spending the first half of the game yelling out how crap our players are, the club was etc I can't tell you how hard it was not to hurt this guy and I'm not usually a violent person. >:(
Anyway, onto the game. Morton, Tambling, Raines, Cousins and Browne were the highlights for me.
Morton kicked 4 and was dangerous all night infront of goal.
Tambling was poised, clean and elusive. He was the only player on the ground wearing the yellow and black that I felt would always do something positive if he had the ball in his mitts.
Cousins reads the game so well and switches play beautifully. He set up a number of our goals this way and was excellent by foot. Why we didn't go through him more is beyond me. Foley seemed to ignore him even when he was the best option!?
Raines is a player I don't usually rate highly but he proved run and guts last night. Like Cousins, his injury will be a blow for the side.
Browne was good in the middle and followed up his tap work at ground level. He was good by foot and in congestion by hand. I was impressed with his first game.
Conversely, players I was embarrassed that they were wearing our gernsey last night were -
Simmonds - was woeful. Couldn't mark or kick and was slow around the ground.
Brown - At one stage last night, in the last quarter, I heard a Tigers supporter honestly ask his mate if Brown was playing. That really sums up his impact on the game. He was no where.
Lids - made one bad decision after another. Couldn't get the ball.
McMahon was terrible. Never lays a tackle and was fooled in his role as a rebounding backman. This guy only seems to perform if he is feed the ball.
Edwards was sh.ite! He is no backman and needs to be removed from the team immediately for Polo. He is still too slight and unexperienced.
Schulz has no confidence in himself. Unless this changes then he can not be our FF.
Our Backline! was shocking. We had no small backmen to stop their small forwards....like last year, and the year before etc.
And I save my biggest disappointment to someone I usually support - Terry Wallace.
Our defence across the ground was disgraceful last night. Carlton moved through the zone with ease and they had free players all over the ground to kick to. This meant our backline was continually left one out and without aid. On the MCG the sheer volume of space made the zone useless and with our players we obviously can not pull it off. The scoreboard showed clearly the tactic did not work.
In addition, in the second half, I saw little changes made which also concerned me. Things were obviously not working out yet TW persistented with the same matchups and tactics.
I'm not writing off TW yet but unless he can change our defensive strategies quickly to something that better suits our list, then regardless of what I or anyone here thinks, we will have a new coach sooner rather than later.
Very disappointing night and I just hope the side and coaches learn from their mistakes and improve next week.
Stripes
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Robert Walls is a stupid man
Tambling played a good game last night & can hold his head high
Considering Carlton had control all night
Tambling attack on the ball injuring Waite is exactly what we need more of
Tambling is also bulking up nicely & is carrying his extra weight & size well
If he dont break completly loose this year l gaurentee he will be hard to stop next season
Took Cooney 4-5 years to get it together
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Raines is a player I don't usually rate highly but he proved run and guts last night. Like Cousins, his injury will be a blow for the side.
Not too sure about this Stripes, I thought he put our other players under the hammer something shocking by holding onto the ball too long
Simmonds - was woeful. Couldn't mark or kick and was slow around the ground.
Brown - At one stage last night, in the last quarter, I heard a Tigers supporter honestly ask his mate if Brown was playing. That really sums up his impact on the game. He was no where.
Lids - made one bad decision after another. Couldn't get the ball.
McMahon was terrible. Never lays a tackle and was fooled in his role as a rebounding backman. This guy only seems to perform if he is feed the ball.
Edwards was sh.ite! He is no backman and needs to be removed from the team immediately for Polo. He is still too slight and unexperienced.
Schulz has no confidence in himself. Unless this changes then he can not be our FF.
Our Backline! was shocking. We had no small backmen to stop their small forwards....like last year, and the year before etc.
Agree with all this especially Brown and Simmonds, I was expecting a lot out of our senior players and got let down something fierce. I cant fathom how so many of our older experienced stars had shockers.
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I'm sorry but I can't see how Tambling was one of our best. Robert Walls was very critical of the number of his disposals and for once I had to agree with him (oh the shame!). Jack Riewoldt also needs to step up. Morton was the only forward who can hold up his head.
BTW on PRE someone said it looked like Richo was crying after the game.
Julz this isn't being critical of you but Robert Walls is a typical commnetator who is "seduced" by stats. It was what Tambling did off the ball that was good, the stuff that isn't seen on the TV, Walls despite being at the game wouldn't notice that. Did Tambling turn it over? Yeah he did at least he was trying unlike some of his other team mates who appeared to be disinterested and thats being very kind
As for Richo when I got home it was said to me that after the game Ch10 focussed on him and he looked devastated on the verge of tears... who can blame him
as i said we have destroyed this bloke in every sense of the word as we will destroy Cotchin and Cousins it seems.
IM SICK TO DEATH OF TAMBLING DOING WORK IN AND UNDER. WTF IS WRONG WITH ALL YOU LOT??? WP INCLUDED
he is a top draft pick who is paid big bucks and in his 4th year 15 possy's and a 3 or 4 clangers is not acceptable.
He was not our worst but its players like him dragging us down.
To his credit he does try, sadly not hard enough. Does he even know how to hold a tackle??
Tambling amongst most of our youth are rubbish
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l thought he had improved last night & he gaining size & strength
dont be so harsh on him so early l'm sure he will repay us
He also has a young family which alot of footballers dont have & it may take him a little longer
l seen this kid play before he was drafted & his very talented
we just need another blackman to play along side him ;D they seem to play well together in teams l noticed
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I'm sorry but I can't see how Tambling was one of our best. Robert Walls was very critical of the number of his disposals and for once I had to agree with him (oh the shame!). Jack Riewoldt also needs to step up. Morton was the only forward who can hold up his head.
BTW on PRE someone said it looked like Richo was crying after the game.
Julz this isn't being critical of you but Robert Walls is a typical commnetator who is "seduced" by stats. It was what Tambling did off the ball that was good, the stuff that isn't seen on the TV, Walls despite being at the game wouldn't notice that. Did Tambling turn it over? Yeah he did at least he was trying unlike some of his other team mates who appeared to be disinterested and thats being very kind
As for Richo when I got home it was said to me that after the game Ch10 focussed on him and he looked devastated on the verge of tears... who can blame him
as i said we have destroyed this bloke in every sense of the word as we will destroy Cotchin and Cousins it seems.
IM SICK TO DEATH OF TAMBLING DOING WORK IN AND UNDER. WTF IS WRONG WITH ALL YOU LOT??? WP INCLUDED
he is a top draft pick who is paid big bucks and in his 4th year 15 possy's and a 3 or 4 clangers is not acceptable.
He was not our worst but its players like him dragging us down.
To his credit he does try, sadly not hard enough. Does he even know how to hold a tackle??
Tambling amongst most of our youth are rubbish
Blingers is an easy target (re: comparisons to Buddy) for supporters especially after disasters like last night while others who seem to be fan and media favourites and ARE on big $$$ escape scorn and criticism. I had this debate with one of our supporters on the train home. Lids, Browny, Foley, Simmo, ...... you could named 17 of them were utterly useless last night. No one is saying Richie starred but the tv didn't show him busting his backside all night and singlehandedly trying to do positive things for the team while his teammates sat back and spectated. Blingers at least hurt two Carlton players going hard for the ball. I didn't see some of our autograph boys do that. They couldn't have cared less based on their lack of running, contesting and defensive efforts last night.
Individually we don't have a 14 goal worse 22 on our list compared to Carlton. Our workrate and being able to function as a team was 14 goals worse.
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Most have probably said what I am about to say but I need to vent!! :banghead
I'm gutted! Absolutely gutted! Its totally spoiled my weekend!
Watching Raines play was like watching someone riding a bicycle down hill whilst pedaling in first gear. Lots of leg speed and movement with nothing productive coming from it. I thought his decision making was appalling. Put players under so much pressure and for mine. He was one of the worst along with McMahon. As others have said, so many fundamental errors. We looked lazy and disinterested.
We were out of position on most occasions and any semi productive play was through excruciating over use of the footy. Our game plan was incredibly ineffective and I know its hard to tell from the TV but from what I saw it looked like we were zoning when we should have been man on man. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we have some success with man on man in the latter stages of last season?
Someone needs to take that zoning crap and stick it where the sun don't shine because all it did was give Carlton time & space. For mine, zoning only works when you are in control of the game. It is so easy to run through a zone when there is nobody there to guard it.
As a side issue, I do think we were caught up in the pre-match hype and the bubble seriously burst on the night. The scary thing is that Carlton didn't really play that well. Even their first gamers were making us look foolish. It just goes to show that if you play bad enough, you can be beaten by anyone.
The only positive I will get out of this is that after last nights performance Carlton think they are the real deal and end up with delusions of grandeur because all they beat last night were witches hats.
On last nights form we will get absolutely caned by the cats. Do the electronic scoreboards display 4 digits for final scores? If not we will probably test it out next week.
Anyone heading down to Kardinia next week deserves the Victoria Cross or at least a padded cell.
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If you're a masochist One HD is replaying the game at 7.30pm tonight :help
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Anyone heading down to Kardinia next week deserves the Victoria Cross or at least a padded cell.
the way I feel at the moment tiga it's padded cell
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I have a big question to ask-
DO THE PLAYERS WANT TERRY WALLACE TO BE THEIR COACH?
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Anyone heading down to Kardinia next week deserves the Victoria Cross or at least a padded cell.
the way I feel at the moment tiga it's padded cell
I'm with you WP. Padded cell. I have 3 tix one for me one for me sister and one for my dad. All worried Tigers.
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I have a big question to ask-
DO THE PLAYERS WANT TERRY WALLACE TO BE THEIR COACH?
a big NO if you ask me.
Surely they cant
I cant stand the pies or North but gee they play for their mates and for their coach.
Average footballers both teams have but gee they give it 100% and cant help but feel so jealous every time i see them chase and tackle someone to the ground.
The RFC is a cancer riddled Football Club that just wont go away
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a big NO if you ask me.
So how do you explain your favourite player Richo saying Tezza's a good coach ;D
Take a big deep breath b4 you answer ;D
I'm with you WP. Padded cell. I have 3 tix one for me one for me sister and one for my dad. All worried Tigers.
8 of us going down there next week Tucker.... :help
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a big NO if you ask me.
So how do you explain your favourite player Richo saying Tezza's a good coach ;D
Take a big deep breath b4 you answer ;D
I'm with you WP. Padded cell. I have 3 tix one for me one for me sister and one for my dad. All worried Tigers.
8 of us going down there next week Tucker.... :help
dont worry ill be there as per usual. I enjoy punishing myself i really do.
we are competetive down there though and have won a game recently, cant remember which year.
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We won in 2006 before that in 1990.
1992 loss 126 points
1993 loss 50 points
1994 loss 64 points
1996 loss 3 points
1997 loss 32 points
1998 loss 15 points
2001 loss 42 points
2005 loss 1 point
2007 loss 70 points
Avg losing margin 45 points.
Based on last night I would take that margin now and not play the game. :help
Saves us all a trip to the Cattery and that sheep shearing shed of a ground and the priviledge of verifying why people from Geelong are living proof that people living in Tassie are good swimmers.
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I have a big question to ask-
DO THE PLAYERS WANT TERRY WALLACE TO BE THEIR COACH?
NO, they dont understand the game plan ;)
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I have a big question to ask-
DO THE PLAYERS WANT TERRY WALLACE TO BE THEIR COACH?
NO, they dont understand the game plan ;)
Once again no vitriol or criticism of TW. Impostor I say.
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Jack was vitriolic last year when he possibly was a little ahead of himself regarding Terry and his Tenure.
Now Terry after last night has been sentenced to death and his awaiting execution.
Jack is back albeit waiting outside the prison holding up a sign Burn Baby Burn
waiting for the news to filter through that the execution has taken place at the gallows.
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Jack was vitriolic last year when he possibly was a little ahead of himself regarding Terry and his Tenure.
Now Terry after last night has been sentenced to death and his awaiting execution.
Jack is back albeit waiting outside the prison holding up a sign Burn Baby Burn
waiting for the news to filter through that the execution has taken place at the gallows.
the execution is just weeks away, thank god ;)
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the execution is just weeks away, thank god ;)
Yeah right
It must be true Eddie McChin said so on SEN right
Round 4 - Sheeds to take
Terrific stuff
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the execution is just weeks away, thank god ;)
Yeah right
It must be true Eddie McChin said so on SEN right
Round 4 - Sheeds to take
Terrific stuff
No it can't be true. Jackstar is not Eddie.
:shh
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I just watched the first half of last night again on One HD :P. It looked just as bad although you don't see players ignoring wide open options.
I know it didn't have any affect on the result as we committed hurry curry all night but sheesh we got no help from the umps. Richo's tackle on Johnson 20m out called play on, Browny's mark not paid, Rainesy getting hit high on the boundary, Morton scragged by the jumper without the ball. When things go wrong they go wrong :-\.
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I just watched the first half of last night again on One HD :P. It looked just as bad although you don't see players ignoring wide open options.
You sadist ;D
I know it didn't have any affect on the result as we committed hurry curry all night but sheesh we got no help from the umps. Richo's tackle on Johnson 20m out called play on, Browny's mark not paid, Rainesy getting hit high on the boundary, Morton scragged by the jumper without the ball. When things go wrong they go wrong :-\.
Yep everything that could have went wrong did last night. Oh well that games gone time to focus on next week now.
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I have a big question to ask-
DO THE PLAYERS WANT TERRY WALLACE TO BE THEIR COACH?
NO, they dont understand the game plan ;)
If what you say is true Jacko and we end up at 0 and 3 ... then the board needs to end the tenure in the hours after the game vs the dogs.
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Rubbish, 0 and 3 was always likely if we lost round 1
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I have a big question to ask-
DO THE PLAYERS WANT TERRY WALLACE TO BE THEIR COACH?
NO, they dont understand the game plan ;)
If what you say is true Jacko and we end up at 0 and 3 ... then the board needs to end the tenure in the hours after the game vs the dogs.
From all that I have heard is that the players are fully behind TW, do you know something we don't or is it wishful thinking?
Hopefully all involved with the tiges on and off field can get its head out of the sky now and focus on playing footy and working hard.
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Rubbish, 0 and 3 was always likely if we lost round 1
Yep and 1 and 5 is likely after six rounds too.
Lets hope the RFC stays firm until at least halfway through the season.
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Rubbish, 0 and 3 was always likely if we lost round 1
No "likely". I would have thought virtually inevitable. Geelong will whip us and thre will be a pitiful support turn up to back a dispirited team at the Dome after that.
To be honest I'm already just looking forward to the Dreamtime when we might just be up to beating an equally poor Essendon.
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Okay, I have calmed down so here goes.....
What I saw on Thursday night was pretty much psychological.
The players basically went to pieces in a similar way to the Magpies, Roos, Crows and Swans games last year.
To me, the players looked laboured and under pressure - not from the opposition - but the weight of expectation.
This is more than likely the result of media and supporter expectation but largely because their coach is in the last year of his contract and there would be a huge amount of pressure to deliver him a new contract.
And they can't handle it - this team has showed us that it can't collectively handle pressure - physically or mentally - when the moment of truth arrives.
They have another month to make amends but it is obvious - to me judging the style of play, the skills or game plan from Thursday night is not that relevant.
Whether it is Wallace or anyone for that matter - you have a coach in charge of a team that is mentally shot and when change is made, they will most likely play with a freedom and energy associated with a new beginning.
Hope I'm wrong but that is my take.
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Rubbish, 0 and 3 was always likely if we lost round 1
Yep and 1 and 5 is likely after six rounds too.
Lets hope the RFC stays firm until at least halfway through the season.
stay firm, why ?
We have put up with 4 and half years of spin for what?
You are a gluten for punishment
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Rubbish, 0 and 3 was always likely if we lost round 1
Yep and 1 and 5 is likely after six rounds too.
Lets hope the RFC stays firm until at least halfway through the season.
Chuckie I agree that club should be strong but to be strong requires a healthy dose of facing reality.
If we are 1 and 5 with a poor percentage, then reality states we will not be renewing the contract.
It would be best to clear the air when the decision becomes obvious.
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We have put up with 4 and half years of spin for what?
So the removable sticker I had printed with "Wallace sacked" wasn't a waste. :P
It's worn out from having to continually peel it off multiple years of calendars and move it back after each predicted round passes by.
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Chuckie I agree that club should be strong but to be strong requires a healthy dose of facing reality.
If we are 1 and 5 with a poor percentage, then reality states we will not be renewing the contract.
It would be best to clear the air when the decision becomes obvious.
Until it is impossible to reach the finals Wallace should not be sacked, once we are sure we cant make the finals then fine; sack him, shoot him, burn him, truss him up and give him to jackstar as a plaything, whatever.
It is important the club rectifies its mistakes of the past and sacking another coach when the season goal he has been given is not yet decided is luduicrous.
1 and 5 with poor percentage with the draw we had and with the draw left there is still a fair even chance of making the finals.
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stay firm, why ?
We have put up with 4 and half years of spin for what?
You are a gluten for punishment
The only punishment I am suffering is reading your posts, your personal vendetta against TW must be based in a lot of hatred.
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stay firm, why ?
We have put up with 4 and half years of spin for what?
You are a gluten for punishment
The only punishment I am suffering is reading your posts, your personal vendetta against TW must be based in a lot of hatred.
Nah, not at all.
I cant help it if he has you ""conned""
he bascially cant coach.
You obviously dont understand what Terrys game plan is.
Its doesnt work, as was seen the other nite.
The only thing I care about is the RFC
By the way, when Wallet is gone, he will leave the same mess he left at the Western Bulldogs, its amazing how people forget or have selective memories.
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stay firm, why ?
We have put up with 4 and half years of spin for what?
You are a gluten for punishment
The only punishment I am suffering is reading your posts, your personal vendetta against TW must be based in a lot of hatred.
Nah, not at all.
I cant help it if he has you ""conned""
he bascially cant coach.
You obviously dont understand what Terrys game plan is.
Its doesnt work, as was seen the other nite.
The only thing I care about is the RFC
By the way, when Wallet is gone, he will leave the same mess he left at the Western Bulldogs, its amazing how people forget or have selective memories.
Some people jack just accept that the RFC will always be failures if we persist with this game plan and the same old coaches who coach for thier careers.
Some peoeple say its Culture i say its been the coaches we have had.
This guy has no idea how to coach nor does he have any idea how to recruit.
Thats why we are in the mess we are in.
How in gods name is Schulz and pettifer still on this list is beyond me.
If we are going to lose to the cats then i hope we get smacked because if that will bring on the 2nd nail for this idiot then so be it.
He is the cancer at the moment by lettting the likes of edwards, schulz, tambling and mcmahon run the show.
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Nah, not at all.
I cant help it if he has you ""conned""
he bascially cant coach.
You obviously dont understand what Terrys game plan is.
Its doesnt work, as was seen the other nite.
The only thing I care about is the RFC
By the way, when Wallet is gone, he will leave the same mess he left at the Western Bulldogs, its amazing how people forget or have selective memories.
Not conned at all, my club has given him the goal of reaching the finals this year. Until the time that we cant make the finals his position should be secure, when we are in the position that we wont make the finals then he is gone and good riddance as he failed to meet the goal he was set.
But at the moment I stand by my clubs word and support my club fully.
Thursday was gutting but I wont turn on my club like a schoolgirl after one shocking game.
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Some people jack just accept that the RFC will always be failures if we persist with this game plan and the same old coaches who coach for thier careers.
Some peoeple say its Culture i say its been the coaches we have had.
And I wonder why we cant get a good coach, could it be because we eat our own.
In regards to coaching for their career what else can our coaches do with the weight of expectation placed upon them by us success starved supporters.
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You are a gluten for punishment
Easy Jack! If you are going to start calling people protein composites then I will be forced to put in a protest with the Admins! This sort of below the belt talk is just not on. It's obvious that in your absence you haven't realised that this forum is now 100% "Gluten Free" ;)
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Rubbish, 0 and 3 was always likely if we lost round 1
Yep and 1 and 5 is likely after six rounds too.
Lets hope the RFC stays firm until at least halfway through the season.
stay firm, why ?
We have put up with 4 and half years of spin for what?
You are a gluten for punishment
If we don't make massive improvement in the next week or two, I'd doubt any of us will be "getting firm" let alone "staying firm".
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Nah, not at all.
I cant help it if he has you ""conned""
he bascially cant coach.
You obviously dont understand what Terrys game plan is.
Its doesnt work, as was seen the other nite.
The only thing I care about is the RFC
By the way, when Wallet is gone, he will leave the same mess he left at the Western Bulldogs, its amazing how people forget or have selective memories.
Not conned at all, my club has given him the goal of reaching the finals this year. Until the time that we cant make the finals his position should be secure, when we are in the position that we wont make the finals then he is gone and good riddance as he failed to meet the goal he was set.
But at the moment I stand by my clubs word and support my club fully.
Thursday was gutting but I wont turn on my club like a schoolgirl after one shocking game.
Agree Chuck! What is more embarrassing, the loss or our supporters carrying on like we do?
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Yes but it wasn't like it was just a small loss, it was a huge loss and the public scrutiny was firmly on the Tigers beforehand. The occasion was great and we failed dismally. This time last year we were near the top of the ladder. This week we'll be lucky if we're not bottom of the ladder. I think the supporters do have a right to vent - just maybe not ad nauseum. I'm not looking forward to next week for sure.
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Dont worrying about the supporters carrying on,
There high profile supporters who made the club that are furious at the coaching on game day
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Dont worrying about the supporters carrying on,
There high profile supporters who made the club that are furious at the coaching on game day
you been listening to my phone calls Monk ? :shh
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Easy Jack! If you are going to start calling people protein composites then I will be forced to put in a protest with the Admins! This sort of below the belt talk is just not on. It's obvious that in your absence you haven't realised that this forum is now 100% "Gluten Free" ;)
Yeh Tiga, I had some heavy hitting names lined up ready to fire back such as adenylate kinase and glutamine synthetase.
However I didnt want to derail the important topics being discussed such as;
- WTF is a "Coften"
- Why TW should be ritually dismembered and fed to a ravenous pack of guinea pigs
- Ethical use of the emoticon ;)
But be warned I am keeping an eye on things ;)
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Some people jack just accept that the RFC will always be failures if we persist with this game plan and the same old coaches who coach for thier careers.
Some peoeple say its Culture i say its been the coaches we have had.
And I wonder why we cant get a good coach, could it be because we eat our own.
In regards to coaching for their career what else can our coaches do with the weight of expectation placed upon them by us success starved supporters.
dont you think we blood/y deserve better Chuck.
Come on mate we deserve better than what this club has done to us in the last 25 years and rightly so we eat our own.
5 years is 5 years and thats ample time to make a difference. Nothing has changed since he arrived.
Still got the same old players doing the same old things.
we are on the road to nowhere with Wallet at the club
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Dont worrying about the supporters carrying on,
There high profile supporters who made the club that are furious at the coaching on game day
you been listening to my phone calls Monk ? :shh
always got me ears pricked :thumbsup
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Some people jack just accept that the RFC will always be failures if we persist with this game plan and the same old coaches who coach for thier careers.
Some peoeple say its Culture i say its been the coaches we have had.
And I wonder why we cant get a good coach, could it be because we eat our own.
In regards to coaching for their career what else can our coaches do with the weight of expectation placed upon them by us success starved supporters.
dont you think we blood/y deserve better Chuck.
Come on mate we deserve better than what this club has done to us in the last 25 years and rightly so we eat our own.
5 years is 5 years and thats ample time to make a difference. Nothing has changed since he arrived.
Still got the same old players doing the same old things.
we are on the road to nowhere with Wallet at the club
Do you know something Daniel I dont think I have read one positive post from you on this forum about the entire RFC since I joined. You are the worst RFC insulter I have ever come across, you should be ashamed of yourself. Having a say is one thing but you just cant let it go can you, back the club as a whole for a change.
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dont you think we blood/y deserve better Chuck.
Come on mate we deserve better than what this club has done to us in the last 25 years and rightly so we eat our own.
We deserve much better I honestly believe that.
But until we set a standard and stay true to our word we will not receive loyalty because we are not giving it.
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Dont worrying about the supporters carrying on,
There high profile supporters who made the club that are furious at the coaching on game day
Oh those supporters who believe they have more right to a say in what happens at Richmond than the rest of us. They are upset and because they are upset it carries more weigth..... please give me a break, if they don't like things they can pack up their bat and ball and go home .... I have said this before they have no right to attach "strings" to their support of this club... we the vast majority don't they shouldn't either :wallywink
We deserve much better I honestly believe that.
But until we set a standard and stay true to our word we will not receive loyalty because we are not giving it.
Well said Chuck :clapping
Agree Chuck! What is more embarrassing, the loss or our supporters carrying on like we do?
Yeah we've reacted the way the media expected and wanted us too and the frenzy continues... Personally we as supporters should be fuming with the latest Damien Barrett vendetta piece in Saturday's HUN (page 84 I think it was) not patting him on the head and giving him more ammo
I repeat I was disgusted with Thursday night's effort but I will not carry on like some have because it isnt the end of the world.... 21 rounds to go...
Yes but it wasn't like it was just a small loss, it was a huge loss and the public scrutiny was firmly on the Tigers beforehand. The occasion was great and we failed dismally. This time last year we were near the top of the ladder. This week we'll be lucky if we're not bottom of the ladder. I think the supporters do have a right to vent - just maybe not ad nauseum. I'm not looking forward to next week for sure.
Absolutely right Julz it wasn't a small loss it was a shocker and because of the attention leading up to the game it makes the result worse but I just reckon we have to stand firm as club... and whether we like it or not move on
Although if I was given a chance to address the players this week I'd certainly let rip ;D
And unless the bulldogs or Dockers win by more than 84 points we are definitely on the bottom of the ladder at the end of this round
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Dont worrying about the supporters carrying on,
There high profile supporters who made the club that are furious at the coaching on game day
High profile supporters are the main reason we've been poo for over 25 years
you been listening to my phone calls Monk ? :shh
Just because you have a high opinion of yourself, doesn't make you "high profile"
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Dont worrying about the supporters carrying on,
There high profile supporters who made the club that are furious at the coaching on game day
High profile supporters are the main reason we've been poo for over 25 years
you been listening to my phone calls Monk ? :shh
Just because you have a high opinion of yourself, doesn't make you "high profile"
Your funny.
if it wasnt for high profile supporters putting pressure on March/Wallace re Cousins, Cuz wouldnt of been drafted and we wouldnt have the extra members or $$$$$$$
Dont you think it was funny that March said there was no way we were taking Cousins and 2 weeks later he was staying at Marchs place.
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
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Dont worrying about the supporters carrying on,
There high profile supporters who made the club that are furious at the coaching on game day
High profile supporters are the main reason we've been poo for over 25 years
you been listening to my phone calls Monk ? :shh
Just because you have a high opinion of yourself, doesn't make you "high profile"
Your funny.
if it wasnt for high profile supporters putting pressure on March/Wallace re Cousins, Cuz wouldnt of been drafted and we wouldnt have the extra members or $$$$$$$
Dont you think it was funny that March said there was no way we were taking Cousins and 2 weeks later he was staying at Marchs place.
:banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
I think if our president is making decisions based on some supporters opinions then he should be sacked
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i ask you a question and I know the answer I might add, why did he change his tune re Cousins.
If you want too, go google articles on what March said in the papers , then to have him do a 180 degree turn.
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Those high profile supporters have been around the club for 27 years. Wallace has been there less than 5.
Not hard to figure out who has been fuckinh the club up since our last GF appearance.
And they may be influential supporters, but they aint high profile. Because if they were high profile, its their front yards the supporters would be driving manure trucks towards
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ABC Grandstand.
Mark Maclure questions whether Wallace has lost the players, while Stan Alves believes it is the players who are shirking the responsibility.
http://blogs.abc.net.au/grandstand/2009/03/the-burning-iss.html?site=afl (http://blogs.abc.net.au/grandstand/2009/03/the-burning-iss.html?site=afl)
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High profile supporters are the main reason we've been poo for over 25 years
not the shytehaus players?
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i ask you a question and I know the answer I might add, why did he change his tune re Cousins.
If you want too, go google articles on what March said in the papers , then to have him do a 180 degree turn.
I think it may have had more to do with the massive support from the AFL and the general public, even opposition supporters. Once the ball was rolling it was pretty hard to stop.
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i ask you a question and I know the answer I might add, why did he change his tune re Cousins.
If you want too, go google articles on what March said in the papers , then to have him do a 180 degree turn.
I think it may have had more to do with the massive support from the AFL and the general public, even opposition supporters. Once the ball was rolling it was pretty hard to stop.
Yeh his options were pretty limited IMO after the circus built up to the levels it did. He would have been forever known as the man who stopped Cuz playing footy again. Imagine if he prevented Cuz from playing with the tiges what would have happened after the R1 loss and not having our "saviour" in Cuz playing for us, he would have been blamed totally for that loss.
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ABC Grandstand.
Mark Maclure questions whether Wallace has lost the players, while Stan Alves believes it is the players who are shirking the responsibility.
http://blogs.abc.net.au/grandstand/2009/03/the-burning-iss.html?site=afl (http://blogs.abc.net.au/grandstand/2009/03/the-burning-iss.html?site=afl)
I asked this same question in here afew days ago. Jacko reckons that the answer is YES, the Plough has lost the playing group and that Campbell has their ears.
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ABC Grandstand.
Mark Maclure questions whether Wallace has lost the players, while Stan Alves believes it is the players who are shirking the responsibility.
http://blogs.abc.net.au/grandstand/2009/03/the-burning-iss.html?site=afl (http://blogs.abc.net.au/grandstand/2009/03/the-burning-iss.html?site=afl)
I asked this same question in here afew days ago. Jacko reckons that the answer is YES, the Plough has lost the playing group and that Campbell has their ears.
Sounds like a interesting development but unlikely none the less. Campbell needs to improve his own coaching before he concerns himself with a senior position. He needs to start being harder on the list during training drills and ensure that mistakes made by the midfield group are corrected immediately. He also needs to work on our tackling, shepherding and blocking to create pressure, turnovers and space for players like Foley, Lids, Tuck, White and Jackson. Until he starts to make a positive difference to our midfield unit that is noticable during the season, it will not matter whether he is the most popular assistant coach in Australia, he will have no chance to become a senior coach this year, next year or in the future.
He needs to develop the players he is responsible for and going on our last preformance, the midfield unit was nothing to get excited about.
He and all the coaches need to start making the list more accountable during training and focus on our defensive game as much as our offensive game.
So in my eyes Campbell still has to do a lot more work to even be considered for a future coaching gig. TW is still miles a head of him with the list and tactically but all of them need to improve all we could have all new coaches next year.
Stripes
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Campbell has what it takes, be assured of that
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Campbell has what it takes, be assured of that
For someone who has only made 1 post on OER ...
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your point is?
oh , sorry i did not know that everyone here are experts!
everyone has a first post by the way, and i have read many of yours, many are very reactionary, very desparate, show no control. but i guess you are greek
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Campbell has what it takes, be assured of that
The proof is in the pudding and at the moment someone has swapped the salt for the sugar in the ingredients... :P
Whoever coaches our team needs to prove themselves first and Campbell still has to do that as an assistant coach first.
Stripes
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Campbell has what it takes, be assured of that
Based on what exactly? Certainly not success
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Campbell has what it takes, be assured of that
Based on what exactly? Certainly not success
Based on what rocket eade told me face to face!
what success as a player did paul roos have? he never played in a premiership team, we all now that wallace was a highly successful player
not all the best coaches were A grade players
so many experts on this forum, i would take eades word over anyone on this site. i have sat in the coaches box with eade and wayne during 2008, can tell you, all are impressed with wayne, onle so called rfc "experts" dont think highly of him.
i think members oer should take over and run the rfc :wallywink
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Campbell has what it takes, be assured of that
The proof is in the pudding and at the moment someone has swapped the salt for the sugar in the ingredients... :P
Whoever coaches our team needs to prove themselves first and Campbell still has to do that as an assistant coach first.
Stripes
campbell has had 1 yr as an assistant at the dogs, all respected him there, the players at the rfc respect wayne. voss has no experience at coaching full stop, but has the respect of his team, so your point is?
wayne does not have to prove to any of us how good he can coach, as long as he has the team behind him, he has the passion and intelligence to have a real crack at it
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Campbell has what it takes, be assured of that
The proof is in the pudding and at the moment someone has swapped the salt for the sugar in the ingredients... :P
Whoever coaches our team needs to prove themselves first and Campbell still has to do that as an assistant coach first.
Stripes
campbell has had 1 yr as an assistant at the dogs, all respected him there, the players at the rfc respect wayne. voss has no experience at coaching full stop, but has the respect of his team, so your point is?
wayne does not have to prove to any of us how good he can coach, as long as he has the team behind him, he has the passion and intelligence to have a real crack at it
I'm not trying to insult you with my comments TT, I'm meerly trying to state that before we begin to line him up to immediately replace TW he needs to put the score on the board. By that I mean I want to see what positive influence he has on the players he directly coaches which are the midfielders.
Making a judgement on one game alone (which is difficult and relatively meaningless really) our midfield did not perform positively and in particular did not show any additional aggression, defensive pressure/strategies nor improve in the area I feel we are most lacking - teammanship. I want to see Campbell make them accountable to each other, pull them up on their mistakes at training and work together to shepherd, block and tackle.
It has only been one game so I reserve my judgement on him as a assistant coach but until I see improvement and his influence on our midfielders both in attitude and in tactics then I for one am far from confident he will make it as an assistant coach let alone a ready-made senior coach.
Stripes
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i do hear you stripes and not insulted at all, being a tiger fan as you know can be very stressful
i personally would like hardwick to be our next coach but im in no position to employ the next rfc coach
then again, if by years end, we finish top 4, yes wishful thinking i know, but its a strange game, i reckon all of us would be kissing terry from head to toe
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i do hear you stripes and not insulted at all, being a tiger fan as you know can be very stressful
i personally would like hardwick to be our next coach but im in no position to employ the next rfc coach
then again, if by years end, we finish top 4, yes wishful thinking i know, but its a strange game, i reckon all of us would be kissing terry from head to toe
sorry tigertime got to disagree
Wayne has neither the required coaching experience, nor a history of playing in a succesful culture to be a great coach.
He was a soft footballer whose legacy was not being able to drag his team anywhere other than 9th. Looking for a richmond person to coach richmond would be a disaster, the only people qualified are over 55 yrs old.
Craig Mcrae would be a much much better option as caretaker coach.
Wayne Campbell, Geez, we have to do better than that.
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i do hear you stripes and not insulted at all, being a tiger fan as you know can be very stressful
i personally would like hardwick to be our next coach but im in no position to employ the next rfc coach
then again, if by years end, we finish top 4, yes wishful thinking i know, but its a strange game, i reckon all of us would be kissing terry from head to toe
sorry tigertime got to disagree
Wayne has neither the required coaching experience, nor a history of playing in a succesful culture to be a great coach.
He was a soft footballer whose legacy was not being able to drag his team anywhere other than 9th. Looking for a richmond person to coach richmond would be a disaster, the only people qualified are over 55 yrs old.
Craig Mcrae would be a much much better option as caretaker coach.
Wayne Campbell, Geez, we have to do better than that.
no worries then what the hell do you classify Al Clarkson, Paul Roos and Denis Pagan as?
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i do hear you stripes and not insulted at all, being a tiger fan as you know can be very stressful
i personally would like hardwick to be our next coach but im in no position to employ the next rfc coach
then again, if by years end, we finish top 4, yes wishful thinking i know, but its a strange game, i reckon all of us would be kissing terry from head to toe
sorry tigertime got to disagree
Wayne has neither the required coaching experience, nor a history of playing in a succesful culture to be a great coach.
He was a soft footballer whose legacy was not being able to drag his team anywhere other than 9th. Looking for a richmond person to coach richmond would be a disaster, the only people qualified are over 55 yrs old.
Craig Mcrae would be a much much better option as caretaker coach.
Wayne Campbell, Geez, we have to do better than that.
no worries then what the hell do you classify Al Clarkson, Paul Roos and Denis Pagan as?
You really are clueless arent you.
Pagan had years of success as a premiership coach at U19 and reserves level and was constantly overlooked for the senior gig before he finally got it. Campbell's had one year as an assistant and may years as a player in a poo team
No-one would be arguing against Campbell if he'd proven himself as a coach in a lesser league. He hasnt done anything
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Based on what rocket eade told me face to face!
Hey TT, thanks for naming where you get your information.
A lot of times we ge the old ;) and :shh in fact lately there has been heaps of ;) ;) ;) and :shh :shh :shh lately
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Wayne Campbell, Geez, we have to do better than that.
I dunno, I wouldn't mind giving that Geez fella a go. ;D
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Based on what rocket eade told me face to face!
Hey TT, thanks for naming where you get your information.
A lot of times we ge the old ;) and :shh in fact lately there has been heaps of ;) ;) ;) and :shh :shh :shh lately
i have nothing to hide, and its not like rocket told me in confidence and said "hey dont tell anyone , but i tell ya what, wayne would make a great coach , but dont tell anyone hey " lol
he told me alot more of what he thinks about some players around the traps, but sorry guys and gals, thats confidential
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i do hear you stripes and not insulted at all, being a tiger fan as you know can be very stressful
i personally would like hardwick to be our next coach but im in no position to employ the next rfc coach
then again, if by years end, we finish top 4, yes wishful thinking i know, but its a strange game, i reckon all of us would be kissing terry from head to toe
sorry tigertime got to disagree
Wayne has neither the required coaching experience, nor a history of playing in a succesful culture to be a great coach.
He was a soft footballer whose legacy was not being able to drag his team anywhere other than 9th. Looking for a richmond person to coach richmond would be a disaster, the only people qualified are over 55 yrs old.
Craig Mcrae would be a much much better option as caretaker coach.
Wayne Campbell, Geez, we have to do better than that.
no worries then what the hell do you classify Al Clarkson, Paul Roos and Denis Pagan as?
You really are clueless arent you.
Pagan had years of success as a premiership coach at U19 and reserves level and was constantly overlooked for the senior gig before he finally got it. Campbell's had one year as an assistant and may years as a player in a poo team
No-one would be arguing against Campbell if he'd proven himself as a coach in a lesser league. He hasnt done anything
the only clueless one on here is you champ.
FWIW i dont want Campbell i would rather Hardwick or Lethal but it doesn't matter if you are successful or not. It matters little
Hungry great player not so good coach
Tony Shaw- Ditto
I agree we need someone tough both phsically and mentally so they can bring that game to our club.
Sheeds forget it he is finished.
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humgry not a good coach hey? not sure about that
remember the mothers day massacre where we pumped the pies, kb had nothing to work with, his sacking cost us big time, we wil never know how good he could have been as a coach and as soon as he started to get some order, he was shafted and we went back 2 square 1
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but i guess you are greek
Nothing wrong with our Greek mates on here
well, some of them ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
know who I mean ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
:rollin
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humgry not a good coach hey? not sure about that
remember the mothers day massacre where we pumped the pies, kb had nothing to work with, his sacking cost us big time, we wil never know how good he could have been as a coach and as soon as he started to get some order, he was shafted and we went back 2 square 1
You have to excuse Daniel he is still learning to tie his shoelaces and is too young to remember anything prior to this millenium.
:lol
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humgry not a good coach hey? not sure about that
remember the mothers day massacre where we pumped the pies, kb had nothing to work with, his sacking cost us big time, we wil never know how good he could have been as a coach and as soon as he started to get some order, he was shafted and we went back 2 square 1
You have to excuse Daniel he is still learning to tie his shoelaces and is too young to remember anything prior to this millenium.
:lol
:lol daniel is a very negative poster from what i have read of latebut i guess you are greek
Nothing wrong with our Greek mates on here
well, some of them ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
know who I mean ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
:rollin
no idea sorry
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:lol daniel is a very negative poster from what i have read of late
Thats not right, he is only negative when the subject gets off Richo. Be fair please ;D
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but i guess you are greek
Nothing wrong with our Greek mates on here
well, some of them ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
know who I mean ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
:rollin
Thanks a million Moi. :thumbsup
I guess us Greeks haven't quite assimilated yet hey TigerTime as we don't have the same viewpoint as you. :whistle
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i do hear you stripes and not insulted at all, being a tiger fan as you know can be very stressful
i personally would like hardwick to be our next coach but im in no position to employ the next rfc coach
then again, if by years end, we finish top 4, yes wishful thinking i know, but its a strange game, i reckon all of us would be kissing terry from head to toe
sorry tigertime got to disagree
Wayne has neither the required coaching experience, nor a history of playing in a succesful culture to be a great coach.
He was a soft footballer whose legacy was not being able to drag his team anywhere other than 9th. Looking for a richmond person to coach richmond would be a disaster, the only people qualified are over 55 yrs old.
Craig Mcrae would be a much much better option as caretaker coach.
Wayne Campbell, Geez, we have to do better than that.
no worries then what the hell do you classify Al Clarkson, Paul Roos and Denis Pagan as?
You really are clueless arent you.
Pagan had years of success as a premiership coach at U19 and reserves level and was constantly overlooked for the senior gig before he finally got it. Campbell's had one year as an assistant and may years as a player in a poo team
No-one would be arguing against Campbell if he'd proven himself as a coach in a lesser league. He hasnt done anything
the only clueless one on here is you champ.
FWIW i dont want Campbell i would rather Hardwick or Lethal but it doesn't matter if you are successful or not. It matters little
Hungry great player not so good coach
Tony Shaw- Ditto
I agree we need someone tough both phsically and mentally so they can bring that game to our club.
Sheeds forget it he is finished.
Harsh call on Bartlett who was coaching a bankrupt club with no money and a list full of young kids and washed up has beens. Even Jeans couldnt get that list to win a game.
Tony Shaw was a rubbish footy player. Couldnt kick the ball more than 20 metres. And he got the gig as a favorite son, just like we want to do with Campbell. Says it all.
Cambell should coach a couple of years in the VFA like Knights did before being parachuted into the toughest job in the AFL.
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your point is?
oh , sorry i did not know that everyone here are experts!
everyone has a first post by the way, and i have read many of yours, many are very reactionary, very desparate, show no control. but i guess you are greek
you racist pr(ck
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but i guess you are greek
Nothing wrong with our Greek mates on here
well, some of them ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
know who I mean ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
:rollin
I didnt know jack was greek
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Well at least we won something last Thursday Night - the tv ratings
1 10 AFL: Carlton v Richmond 708,000
2 7 Packed to the Rafters 688,000
3 9 Underbelly: A Tale of Two Cities .....
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your point is?
oh , sorry i did not know that everyone here are experts!
everyone has a first post by the way, and i have read many of yours, many are very reactionary, very desparate, show no control. but i guess you are greek
you racist pr(ck
:lol are greeks a race lol
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your point is?
oh , sorry i did not know that everyone here are experts!
everyone has a first post by the way, and i have read many of yours, many are very reactionary, very desparate, show no control. but i guess you are greek
you racist pr(ck
not only racist but ignorant too.
:lol are greeks a race lol
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oh then you can excuse me as i am so ignorant lol
just a simpleton unlike yourself, i have never met you, do not know you, as you do not know me, but already i wish so dearly i was you :lol
now as you know i am ignorant, is not a greek person just a wannabe turk? or macedonian?
Alexander the great the greatest macedonian of all time that the greeks try to claim! lol
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so many uptight people here, some need a sense of humour
i suppose being a tiger fan can be stressfull :rollin
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oh then you can excuse me as i am so ignorant lol
just a simpleton unlike yourself, i have never met you, do not know you, as you do not know me, but already i wish so dearly i was you :lol
now as you know i am ignorant, is not a greek person just a wannabe turk? or macedonian?
Alexander the great the greatest macedonian of all time that the greeks try to claim! lol
no, don't know you, dont wanna know you either,
but I do know enough to know that you are racist.
I couldnt care less if you are macedonian or turkish, but I can guarantee you're a fool. Carry on
racist pr!ck
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so many uptight people here, some need a sense of humour
i suppose being a tiger fan can be stressfull :rollin
so racism is funny now is it?
You are a bigger moron than I imagined
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Firstly I must be a bit ignorant but how do you know anyone's race on this forum? Is it their avatar names?
Secondly who gives a flying ......!
We don't need another excuse to argue about anything other than football and make personal insults. I would like to see you more around here TT but only if you refrain from insulting people just because they don't agree with you.
That position is more than take around here ;)
Stripes
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humgry not a good coach hey? not sure about that
remember the mothers day massacre where we pumped the pies, kb had nothing to work with, his sacking cost us big time, we wil never know how good he could have been as a coach and as soon as he started to get some order, he was shafted and we went back 2 square 1
You have to excuse Daniel he is still learning to tie his shoelaces and is too young to remember anything prior to this millenium.
:lol
whilst i was dojng up my shoelaces i was watching another pathetic coach grace our club and thats hungry bartlett.
great player but no idea how to coach
now he is changing the game with his pathetic rule changes, along with the other clowns
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The best side that did not play against Carlton wold almost beat the side that we put on the park on Thursday...
Gilligan - Gourdis - JON
Polo - Post - Rance
Connors - Cotchin - Thomson
Johnson - Vickery - Collins
Nahas - Hughes - Putt
Pattison - Coughlan - Hislop
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ABC Grandstand.
Mark Maclure questions whether Wallace has lost the players, while Stan Alves believes it is the players who are shirking the responsibility.
http://blogs.abc.net.au/grandstand/2009/03/the-burning-iss.html?site=afl (http://blogs.abc.net.au/grandstand/2009/03/the-burning-iss.html?site=afl)
I asked this same question in here afew days ago. Jacko reckons that the answer is YES, the Plough has lost the playing group and that Campbell has their ears.
Correct
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Campbell has what it takes, be assured of that
Based on what exactly? Certainly not success
Based on what rocket eade told me face to face!
what success as a player did paul roos have? he never played in a premiership team, we all now that wallace was a highly successful player
not all the best coaches were A grade players
so many experts on this forum, i would take eades word over anyone on this site. i have sat in the coaches box with eade and wayne during 2008, can tell you, all are impressed with wayne, onle so called rfc "experts" dont think highly of him.
i think members oer should take over and run the rfc :wallywink
I think tigertime should know ;) seeing you have worked at 3 different clubs ;)
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but i guess you are greek
Nothing wrong with our Greek mates on here
well, some of them ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
know who I mean ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
:rollin
I am australian with greek grandparents, got a problem with that arse
I didnt know jack was greek
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but i guess you are greek
Nothing wrong with our Greek mates on here
well, some of them ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
know who I mean ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
:rollin
no
not at all jack
I am not the one that is racist on this site
I am australian with greek grandparents, got a problem with that behind
I didnt know jack was greek
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Campbell has what it takes, be assured of that
Based on what exactly? Certainly not success
Based on what rocket eade told me face to face!
what success as a player did paul roos have? he never played in a premiership team, we all now that wallace was a highly successful player
not all the best coaches were A grade players
so many experts on this forum, i would take eades word over anyone on this site. i have sat in the coaches box with eade and wayne during 2008, can tell you, all are impressed with wayne, onle so called rfc "experts" dont think highly of him.
i think members oer should take over and run the rfc :wallywink
I think tigertime should know ;) seeing you have worked at 3 different clubs ;)
mmm sybil complex.
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Champion Data dreamteam points vs Carlton.
Games TOG TOG% Pts p/min Pts
Matthew Richardson Mid / Fwd $434,600 1 116 93% 0.983 114
Troy Simmonds Ruc $370,900 1 87 70% 1.115 97
Mitch Morton Fwd $292,100 1 115 92% 0.843 97
Nathan Foley Mid $332,400 1 104 83% 0.904 94
Brett Deledio Fwd / Mid $433,000 1 112 90% 0.759 85
Chris Newman Def $363,200 1 117 94% 0.726 85
Shane Tuck Mid $403,200 1 84 67% 0.976 82
Matt White Mid $275,300 1 96 77% 0.833 80
Richard Tambling Mid $328,300 1 109 87% 0.679 74
Jay Schulz Fwd / Def $303,400 1 109 87% 0.633 69
Andrew Raines Def $188,100 1 108 86% 0.630 68
Jack Riewoldt Fwd $257,800 1 112 90% 0.589 66
Luke McGuane Def $229,100 1 125 100% 0.464 58
Nathan G. Brown Fwd $407,500 1 114 91% 0.500 57
Joel Bowden Def $436,600 1 99 79% 0.505 50
Ben Cousins Mid $364,000 1 77 62% 0.584 45
Kelvin Moore Def $287,800 1 125 100% 0.344 43
Jordan McMahon Def $373,900 1 101 81% 0.416 42
Shane Edwards Fwd / Mid $211,300 1 89 71% 0.382 34
Daniel Jackson Mid $318,300 1 95 76% 0.337 32
Will Thursfield Def $150,100 1 113 90% 0.150 17
Andrew Browne Ruc $ 75,300 1 46 37% 0.261 12
Carlton had 7 of the top 8 players on the ground - Wiggins, Hadley, Simpson, Gibbs, Judd and Kreuzer. All scored 100 points or more. The Blues also had 10 of the top 14 (greater than 90 points).
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The best side that did not play against Carlton wold almost beat the side that we put on the park on Thursday...
Gilligan - Gourdis - JON
Polo - Post - Rance
Connors - Cotchin - Thomson
Johnson - Vickery - Collins
Nahas - Hughes - Putt
Pattison - Coughlan - Hislop
:-\
lol you do take some medications dont you :rollin
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Champion Data dreamteam points vs Carlton.
Games TOG TOG% Pts p/min Pts
Matthew Richardson Mid / Fwd $434,600 1 116 93% 0.983 114
Troy Simmonds Ruc $370,900 1 87 70% 1.115 97
Mitch Morton Fwd $292,100 1 115 92% 0.843 97
Nathan Foley Mid $332,400 1 104 83% 0.904 94
Brett Deledio Fwd / Mid $433,000 1 112 90% 0.759 85
Chris Newman Def $363,200 1 117 94% 0.726 85
Shane Tuck Mid $403,200 1 84 67% 0.976 82
Matt White Mid $275,300 1 96 77% 0.833 80
Richard Tambling Mid $328,300 1 109 87% 0.679 74
Jay Schulz Fwd / Def $303,400 1 109 87% 0.633 69
Andrew Raines Def $188,100 1 108 86% 0.630 68
Jack Riewoldt Fwd $257,800 1 112 90% 0.589 66
Luke McGuane Def $229,100 1 125 100% 0.464 58
Nathan G. Brown Fwd $407,500 1 114 91% 0.500 57
Joel Bowden Def $436,600 1 99 79% 0.505 50
Ben Cousins Mid $364,000 1 77 62% 0.584 45
Kelvin Moore Def $287,800 1 125 100% 0.344 43
Jordan McMahon Def $373,900 1 101 81% 0.416 42
Shane Edwards Fwd / Mid $211,300 1 89 71% 0.382 34
Daniel Jackson Mid $318,300 1 95 76% 0.337 32
Will Thursfield Def $150,100 1 113 90% 0.150 17
Andrew Browne Ruc $ 75,300 1 46 37% 0.261 12
Carlton had 7 of the top 8 players on the ground - Wiggins, Hadley, Simpson, Gibbs, Judd and Kreuzer. All scored 100 points or more. The Blues also had 10 of the top 14 (greater than 90 points).
Carlton also had some serious ball winners out in Walker, Stevens, & Carrasso which makes our performance even dirty
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Champion Data dreamteam points vs Carlton.
Jordan McMahon Def $373,900 1 101 81% 0.416 42
Shane Edwards Fwd / Mid $211,300 1 89 71% 0.382 34
Daniel Jackson Mid $318,300 1 95 76% 0.337 32
Will Thursfield Def $150,100 1 113 90% 0.150 17
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Campbell has what it takes, be assured of that
The proof is in the pudding and at the moment someone has swapped the salt for the sugar in the ingredients... :P
Whoever coaches our team needs to prove themselves first and Campbell still has to do that as an assistant coach first.
Stripes
A sensible post by Stripes unlike some other people who are full of poo and clearly have issues of prejudice running through there vains. Anyway because I didnt want to respond to the idiot Ill simply say this ... get stuffed TT - no one gives a poo what you say, and rightly so.
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oh then you can excuse me as i am so ignorant lol
just a simpleton unlike yourself, i have never met you, do not know you, as you do not know me, but already i wish so dearly i was you :lol
now as you know i am ignorant, is not a greek person just a wannabe turk? or macedonian?
Alexander the great the greatest macedonian of all time that the greeks try to claim! lol
no, don't know you, dont wanna know you either,
but I do know enough to know that you are racist.
I couldnt care less if you are macedonian or turkish, but I can guarantee you're a fool. Carry on
racist pr!ck
:clapping at Blaisee posts
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ramps loves blaisee who makes him feel safe and popular. good on ya ramps
3 cheers for you. :cheers :cheers :cheers
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Have a nice day lad ;D
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i did have a nice and successful day, but the day is over, but i must say the evening will be special.
if you get lonely you can find comfort on here im sure
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Is tigertime daniel?
Hmmmmm
Anyway they are both :sleep