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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: torch on November 30, 2008, 09:50:56 PM
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as the topic says
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This is tough now :-\
B: McGuane Thursty Connors
HB: Newman Moore Tambling
C: Richo Deledio McMahon
HF: Morton Riewoldt Cotchin
F: Browny Hughes Bowden
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
Int: Patto, White, Johnson, Jackson
Emg: Edwards, Polo, Schulz
It depends on what you class as best. Cogs at his best pre-injury would walk into the side but right now he's an unknown.
I tossed up between Patto and Gus. It wouldn't surprise me if Gus surprises a few people next year if he has a full preseason. At the moment Patto is our second ruck.
I haven't included any newbies either.
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Yep very tough
B: McGuane Thursty White
HB: Newman Moore McMahon
C: Richo Deledio Tambling
HF: Morton Riewoldt Cotchin
F: Browny Hughes Connors
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
Int: Patto, Schulz, Jackson, Bowden
Emg: Edwards, Polo, Johnson
I considered but left out Raines, Cogs (not sure where he is at), Rance
Dont think any of the new guys will be ready, think we may have a chance at seeing Vickery later on in the year. Putt and Post probably in 2010.
Hislop and Thomson will need to force their way in based on performance, I cant place Johnson in the side at the moment and struggled a bit with Bowden. Probably Connors will slip out (but I really like this boy).
I also dont think there is enough pace on the bench and would lean towards Edwards/Polo in place of Bowden.
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This is my team by the end of the year -
B: McGuane Thursty Rance
HB: Newman Moore McMahon
C: Richo Deledio Tambling
HF: Morton Riewoldt Cotchin
F: White Hughes Connors
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley Browny
Int: Graham, Schulz, Jackson, Thomson Bowden
Emg: Edwards, Polo, Hislop, Pattison
I have left out our past captain and Bowden who I feel are all getting past their prime and will be overlapped in terms of form by the end of the year. Depending on Browny's form he may swap with Connors in the forwardline. I deliberated over Richo for quite some time too - I'm not sure whether he will see the year out with injuries but in the end I thought I would remain positive and leave the superstar in there.
I agree with Chuck regarding the new draftees but Vickery may finish the season in the forwardline.
Stripes
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Hislop Thursfield McGaune
Moore Rance Newman
Tuck Coughlan Connors
Cotchin Riewoldt Tambling
Brown Richo Morton
Simmonds Deledio Foley
White Thomson Vickery McMahon
- I would like Shane Edwards in the XXII but struggle to fit him in.
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This is tough now :-\
Which is good thing I reckon :thumbsup
Mine:
B: McGuane Thursty Moore
HB: Newman Schulz Tambling
C: Richo Deledio Polo
HF: Morton Riewoldt Cotchin
F: Brown Bowden Edwards
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
Int: Patto, White, Johnson, Thompson
Emg: Hughes, Jackson, McMahon
NB: Went with Bowden at FF, mainly because he can play defence too and could swap if need be with Schulz
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This is tough now :-\
Which is good thing I reckon :thumbsup
Too true. It means we are building depth.
Emg: Hughes, Jackson, McMahon
You reckon Jordie will be surplus next year WP?
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Emg: Hughes, Jackson, McMahon
You reckon Jordie will be surplus next year WP?
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There would be a fair few in that boat I would say that either reckon that or hope for that
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You reckon Jordie will be surplus next year WP?
Just reckon if a couple of the youngsters come along then he will drop down the pecking order a bit
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Just a slight update ;)
B: McGuane Thursty Tambling
HB: Newman Moore McMahon
C: Richo Cousins Deledio ---- that centreline ain't too shabby ;D
HF: Morton Riewoldt Cotchin
F: Browny Hughes Bowden
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
Int: Patto, White, Johnson, Connors
Emg: Edwards, Jackson, Schulz
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You reckon Jordie will be surplus next year WP?
Just reckon if a couple of the youngsters come along then he will drop down the pecking order a bit
Not if he remains a love child of Terry WP.
Good to see Cuz picked in the Centre MT. :thumbsup
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Just a slight update ;)
B: McGuane Thursty Tambling
HB: Newman Moore McMahon
C: Richo Cousins Deledio ---- that centreline ain't too shabby ;D
HF: Morton Riewoldt Cotchin
F: Browny Hughes Bowden
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
Int: Patto, White, Johnson, Connors
Emg: Edwards, Jackson, Schulz
Yes, well it does look quite good.
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Newman Thursfeild Tambling
Rance McGaune Moore
Cousins Coughlan Deledio
Cotchin Riewoldt Brown
Connors Richo Vickery
Simmonds Tuck Foley
Hislop McMahon White Morton
EM: Schultz/Hughes - Edwards/Raines - Thomson
:cheers
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Newman Thursfeild Tambling
Rance McGaune Moore
Cousins Coughlan Deledio
Cotchin Riewoldt Brown
Connors Richo Vickery
Simmonds Tuck Foley
Hislop McMahon White Morton
EM: Schultz/Hughes - Edwards/Raines - Thomson
:cheers
I have begun to dislike proposed teams with Richo at FF. We look much more dangerous with him on a wing.
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Newman Thursfeild Tambling
Rance McGaune Moore
Cousins Coughlan Deledio
Cotchin Riewoldt Brown
Connors Richo Vickery
Simmonds Tuck Foley
Hislop McMahon White Morton
EM: Schultz/Hughes - Edwards/Raines - Thomson
:cheers
I have begun to dislike proposed teams with Richo at FF. We look much more dangerous with him on a wing.
Newman Thursfeild Tambling
Rance McGaune Moore
Cousins Coughlan Richo
Cotchin Riewoldt Deledio
Connors Vickery Brown
Simmonds Tuck Foley
Hislop McMahon White Morton
EM: Schultz/Hughes - Edwards/Raines - Thomson
:cheers
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We have a problem up forward with our KPP stocks. We need to focus in the next 12 months on finding 1 or 2. Whether we trade for one or draft one.
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We have a problem up forward with our KPP stocks. We need to focus in the next 12 months on finding 1 or 2. Whether we trade for one or draft one.
We now have many of them -
Riewoldt
Hughes
Post
Vickery*
Schultz
Putt*
problem is they are young and unproven.
no doubt we lack a outstanding young forward prospect like a Franklin / T Cloke / Hawkins.
Jack should be at least one good one. If we get cousins our midfield should do most the work anyway.
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Put Ben Cousins in the guts
Jon Ralph | December 12, 2008
IT IS isn't quite the fabled centreline of Bourke-Barrot-Clay, but to success-starved Richmond fans it may as well be.
Reigning best-and-fairest Brett Deledio on one wing, second-year gun Trent Cotchin on the other, and recruit Ben Cousins firmly planted in the guts.
Add onball revelation Nathan Foley, improving midfielder Richard Tambling and the starch of Shane Tuck and Kane Johnson and you are getting somewhere.
Finally, after two finals campaigns since 1982, Richmond may have a midfield with enough firepower to compete with the league's heavyweights.
The "Add Cousins and stir" argument has merit at any AFL club.
Which of the 16 clubs would not want a 30-year-old midfielder who runs the lines, makes the right decision every time, and has kicked more than 200 career goals?
But the Tigers have a unique combination of circumstances that must have coach Terry Wallace salivating, at least about his possible recruit's on-field potential.
Every club has a player who struggles with taggers: Nick Dal Santo at St Kilda, Marc Murphy at Carlton, Dale Thomas and Scott Pendlebury at Collingwood.
But the Tigers have a raft of emerging midfielders who have shown an inability to wear down the elite shutdown players.
When all of Foley, Deledio and Tambling play in the midfield, one invariably gets off the leash.
But too often Deledio is pushed forward in search of goals, Tambling is released to half-back to inject some run, and the load falls to Foley.
He coped admirably in 2007, but slipped to seventh in best-and-fairest voting this year.
Like Dal Santo if Cousins had waltzed into Moorabbin, Foley would be the SuperCoach buy of the year if the ex-Eagle could be lured to Tigerland.
The more worrying factor for Richmond's brains trust is how Cousins would change the leadership dynamic of the playing list.
Wallace has spent his tenure at Tigerland trying to extract leadership and spark from a group renowned as timid and insular.
He has made considerable progress, and last month unveiled a young leadership group led by Chris Newman and vice-captain Foley.
A month ago there was a concern Cousins' dominant presence would have an inhibiting effect on a group that needs to go in the other direction.
What has changed since?
The distraction factor also looms large for a club set to face the white-hot spotlight all year.
Wallace knows he must perform this year to win another contract, and a raft of questions about Cousins would be preferable to those on his own tenure.
Cotchin was so impressive in his first season he could scarcely top that performance in the eyes of supporters, but he might benefit from some cover from a returning champion.
The bottom line is that Cousins brings excitement, dynamism and flair, and those commodities have been in scant supply at Punt Rd for two decades.
And if the Cousins adventure backfires, the Tigers have nowhere further to fall.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,24787808-19742,00.html
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Which is good thing I reckon :thumbsup
Mine:
B: McGuane Thursty Moore
HB: Newman Schulz Tambling
C: Richo Deledio Polo
HF: Morton Riewoldt Cotchin
F: Brown Bowden Edwards
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
Int: Patto, White, Johnson, Thompson
Emg: Hughes, Jackson, McMahon
NB: Went with Bowden at FF, mainly because he can play defence too and could swap if need be with Schulz
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I like this team so I will vote for this one.
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B: McGuane Thursty Moore
HB: Newman Schulz Tambling
C: Richo Deledio Polo
HF: Morton Riewoldt Cotchin
F: Brown Bowden Edwards
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
Int: Patto, White, Johnson, Thompson
Emg: Hughes, Jackson, McMahon
NB: Went with Bowden at FF, mainly because he can play defence too and could swap if need be with Schulz
I like this team so I will vote for this one.
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Certainly not a bad lineup but i would prefer to exclude Bowden, Johnson and Browny in preference to young quality players who will be our future. Richo, Simmonds and, if we pick him up, Cousins would be the only exception to my rule due to their star quality or structural importance.
The challenge of choosing a team becomes even more difficult if you add fully fit and in form players such as Cogs, Raines, Hislop and Thomson plus any potential improved players such as Polo, Connors, Gus, Rance, Putt, Vickery, Collins and, dare I say it, JON.
Stripes
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The challenge of choosing a team becomes even more difficult if you add fully fit and in form players such as Cogs, Raines, Hislop and Thomson plus any potential improved players such as Polo, Connors, Gus, Rance, Putt, Vickery, Collins and, dare I say it, JON.
From memory Jon Ralph had Rainesy in a BP in the paper. I think he also had Vickery on the bench although I can't remember the whole 22 he had.
B: Thursty Moore Raines
HB: Newman McGuane McMahon
C: Deledio Cousins Cotchin
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At this early stage, I'll throw my backline into the mix:-
BP Newman McGuane Thursfield
HBF McMahon Schultz/Rance Moore
Having 4 tallish defenders who can also run gives us much flexibility which is similar to the Cats defense of recent years. I personally think Rance will be given first go at CHB if he has a strong pre season but Schultz should be pounding the door down.
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At this early stage, I'll throw my backline into the mix:-
BP Newman McGuane Thursfield
HBF McMahon Schultz/Rance Moore
Having 4 tallish defenders who can also run gives us much flexibility which is similar to the Cats defense of recent years. I personally think Rance will be given first go at CHB if he has a strong pre season but Schultz should be pounding the door down.
Will be intersting to see the back 6 this year.
I would like to Richie in a Tadhg Kennelly / Andrew McLeod role on a half back stuff.
We need to find a back pocket to play on small forward - White / Raines / Hislop / Polo; hopfully someone steps up and next season Milne doesnt kick 9 goals or North dont kick 10 goals between their small aboriginal forward pocket bridage.
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Centre Line:
Matthew Richardson (34) Ben Cousins (31) Brett Deledio (22)
Ruck:
Troy Simmonds (31)
Ruck Rover:
Nathan Foley (24)
Rover:
Shane Tuck (29)
Mark Coughlan (27), Richard Tambling (23), Trent Cotchin (19), Tyrone Vickery (19) - add to the Midfield.
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So we have two on the LTIL, Pettifer and Polak.
Do we elevate someone straight away or just leave it until one of the rookies shows some good form and reward them then?
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So we have two on the LTIL, Pettifer and Polak.
Do we elevate someone straight away or just leave it until one of the rookies shows some good form and reward them then?
is Pettifer injured?
does it cost Richmond and other AFL Clubs to promote a Rookie listed player onto the Senior list during the year?
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So we have two on the LTIL, Pettifer and Polak.
Do we elevate someone straight away or just leave it until one of the rookies shows some good form and reward them then?
is Pettifer injured?
does it cost Richmond and other AFL Clubs to promote a Rookie listed player onto the Senior list during the year?
Elevated a rookie costs additional funds so the club is reluctant to do so unless they are willing to play the kid in the firsts.
Stripes
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thanks "Stripes"
do you know how much the "additional funds" cost?
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It's the difference between a minimum rookie wage and a minimum senior player wage
So around $20k
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Richmond list all set now!
so who is "YOUR" best Richmond team?
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off the top of my head mr torch
Newman Thursfield Tambling
Moore McGaune Rance
Richo Coughlan Cousins
Deledio Riewoldt Cotchin
Brown Hughes Morton
Deledio Tuck Foley
Connors Pattison White/Thomson McMahon
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I know Deledio is good, but I didn't know he could ruck and play HFF at the same time
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LOL Infamy ;D
So we have two on the LTIL, Pettifer and Polak.
Do we elevate someone straight away or just leave it until one of the rookies shows some good form and reward them then?
is Pettifer injured?
does it cost Richmond and other AFL Clubs to promote a Rookie listed player onto the Senior list during the year?
Elevated a rookie costs additional funds so the club is reluctant to do so unless they are willing to play the kid in the firsts.
Stripes
Next year don't they allow you to nominate a rookie who can play post round 11 without needing someone on the LTIL? So effectively we could have 3 rookies promoted and playing seniors if we wanted to stuff out the cash on them with Polly and Petts on the LTIL.
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My team:
fb: Matthew White Will Thursfield Luke McGuane
hb: Jordan McMahon Kelvin Moore Chris Newman
c: Matt Richardson Trent Cotchin Richard Tambling
hf: Brett Deledio Jack Riewoldt Shane Tuck
ff: Nathan Brown Cleve Hughes Mitchell Morton
ru: Troy Simmonds Ben Cousins Nathan Foley
ic: Tyrone Vickery Shane Edwards Tom Hislop Adam Thomson
em: Adam Pattison Daniel Jackson Alex Rance
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I know Deledio is good, but I didn't know he could ruck and play HFF at the same time
Newman Thursfield Tambling
Moore McGaune Rance
Richo Coughlan Cousins
Deledio Riewoldt Cotchin
Brown Hughes Morton
Simmonds Tuck Foley
Connors Pattison White/Thomson McMahon
:santa
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I know Deledio is good, but I didn't know he could ruck and play HFF at the same time
Would you have a problem if we had 2 of him?
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I know Deledio is good, but I didn't know he could ruck and play HFF at the same time
Would you have a problem if we had 2 of him?
Play one full forward. And the other in the guts.
Good times.
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I know Deledio is good, but I didn't know he could ruck and play HFF at the same time
Would you have a problem if we had 2 of him?
Play one full forward. And the other in the guts.
Lets get in touch with the guy who cloned Dolly :lol
Good times.
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I know Deledio is good, but I didn't know he could ruck and play HFF at the same time
Would you have a problem if we had 2 of him?
Stop teasing
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My team:
fb: Matthew White Will Thursfield Luke McGuane
hb: Jordan McMahon Kelvin Moore Chris Newman
c: Matt Richardson Trent Cotchin Richard Tambling
hf: Brett Deledio Jack Riewoldt Shane Tuck
ff: Nathan Brown Cleve Hughes Mitchell Morton
ru: Troy Simmonds Ben Cousins Nathan Foley
ic: Tyrone Vickery Shane Edwards Tom Hislop Adam Thomson
em: Adam Pattison Daniel Jackson Alex Rance
Given Joel and Sugar the flicks Ramps?
Can Whitey play on and contain a pest like Milne?
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My team:
fb: Matthew White Will Thursfield Luke McGuane
hb: Jordan McMahon Kelvin Moore Chris Newman
c: Matt Richardson Trent Cotchin Richard Tambling
hf: Brett Deledio Jack Riewoldt Shane Tuck
ff: Nathan Brown Cleve Hughes Mitchell Morton
ru: Troy Simmonds Ben Cousins Nathan Foley
ic: Tyrone Vickery Shane Edwards Tom Hislop Adam Thomson
em: Adam Pattison Daniel Jackson Alex Rance
Given Joel and Sugar the flicks Ramps?
Can Whitey play on and contain a pest like Milne?
Teams never line up like this anyway MT ... only just put him there for this exercise, as for JB and Sugar ... KJ should have retired or been retired, JB will play but I prefer to see younger players developed. One thing for certain is that we have built some depth.
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:)
closer to NAB Cup, so who (with injuries) is "your" best 22 for Round 1?
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fb: White McGuane Thursfield
hb: Tambling Moore Newman
c: Richardson Cousins McMahon
hf: Cotchin Schulz Morton
f: Brown Riewoldt Edwards
r: Simmonds Deledio Foley
ic: Tuck, Graham, Coughlan, Bowden
em: Connors, Raines, Post
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*Hughes is the only one I am iffy about.
It's there if he wants it, let's hope he does.
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FB Raines Thursfield McGuane
HB McMahon Moore Newman
C Richardson Cousins Tambling
HF Cotchin Riewoldt Morton
FF Brown Bowden Edwards
R Simmonds Deledio Foley
IC Tuck Johnson White Pattison
EM Jackson Connors Post
Depth: Schulz, Hughes, Thompson, Coughlan, King, Nahas, Hislop, Polo
12 months more: Collins, Vickery, Rance, Putt
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*Hughes is the only one I am iffy about.
It's there if he wants it, let's hope he does.
If there was one player I had to choose on the list who could make a real difference if he stands up, it would be Cleve 'Clean Knees' Hughes. Sadly I don't see it happening because whilst he has some talent, he just simply works nowhere near enough to ever be a convincing KPF. I think I'll be redirecting some of that hope towards J.Post.
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If there was one player I had to choose on the list who could make a real difference if he stands up, it would be Cleve 'Clean Knees' Hughes. Sadly I don't see it happening because whilst he has some talent, he just simply works nowhere near enough to ever be a convincing KPF. I think I'll be redirecting some of that hope towards J.Post.
Couldn't have said it better myself MM. Mr Post has me a little bit excited - in the right kind of way!!!! :o (Not that there's anything wrong with that)
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Couldn't have said it better myself MM. Mr Post has me a little bit excited - in the right kind of way!!!! :o (Not that there's anything wrong with that)
In fact I have convinced myself.. ;D
Cleve comes out of my team.
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The FF position is the one that someone needs to grab. Cleve needs to stand up otherwise the younger talls will bypass him.
This gets tougher each time you do it.
B: McGuane Thursty Tambling
HB: Newman Moore McMahon
C: Richo Deledio Cotchin
HF: Brown Riewoldt White
F: Bowden Hughes Morton
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
Int: Graham, Cousins, Edwards, Coughlan
Emg: Connors, Schulz, Post
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The FF position is the one that someone needs to grab. Cleve needs to stand up otherwise the younger talls will bypass him.
This gets tougher each time you do it.
B: McGuane Thursty Tambling
HB: Newman Moore McMahon
C: Richo Deledio Cotchin
HF: Brown Riewoldt White
F: Bowden Hughes Morton
R: Simmonds Tuck Foley
Int: Graham, Cousins, Edwards, Coughlan
Emg: Connors, Schulz, Post
No Raines MT? Bling or White may be moved to the middle with Cotchin injuried leaving Raines down in the backpocket. Graham and Cogs will have to work hard in the NAB games to earn their places. It will be interesting to see who drops out when Johnson returns from injury. I'm also assuming Hislop will get a game in the forwardline sooner rather than later which may leave Brown or even Bowden feeling the pinch....
It is getting harder
Stripes
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It will be interesting to see who drops out when Johnson returns from injury.
It sure is getting harder which is great to see :thumbsup.
The interesting thing about Sugar IMO, is will he be able to force his way back into the side based purely on his playing merit. If we get off to a flyer without him and there are no injuries relevant to his position it may be a struggle for him to get back in.
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Newman - Thursfeild - Rance
White - Moore - Tambling
Tuck - Deledio - Richo
Edwards - Riewoldt - Cousins
Brown - Post - Cotchin
Simmonds - Coughlan - Foley
Raines - Bowden - Pattison - Morton