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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on January 12, 2009, 05:40:19 PM
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Raines parts from clouds of '08
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen
Mon 12 January, 2009
IN TERMS of his career, Richmond defender Andrew Raines was flying.
Two seasons without missing a game had been followed by a great pre-season where he completed every session and was as fit as he’d ever been.
But then disaster struck, and in a flash his campaign was over.
In round two last year, the Tigers fell to North Melbourne by 41 points and were dealt an extra blow when Raines dislocated his kneecap.
"The most disappointing thing was that I was up and running, I’d had the best pre-season I’d ever had, I was in pretty good shape and then in round two the kneecap slides off the side of your leg and stuffed the whole year up," he told richmondfc.com.au.
"I didn’t think it was that serious at first, I thought it would be a three or stuff injury, and it ended up being 10.
"And then the more time you miss out, then you see the effect it has on the other parts of your body and I just went downhill from there.
"It’s very disappointing, but it makes you hungrier and makes you more determined to have a big year this year."
As one of the older players in the young brigade – 22 and with 53 games under his belt – Raines still sounds beyond his years when assessing the Tigers' 2008 season.
"I was very pleased and very proud of the boys," he said. "We didn’t quite get there – we finished in ninth again – so we didn’t get to the finals, which I was hoping to get back for but I was really happy with the boys.
"We’ve got a good crew together. I’m 22 and I’m one of the older young blokes and, if we all get to 25 or 26 years of age as a group, when we’re in our prime, then there’s some good times ahead.
"You can see what’s happened down at Geelong when that happens.
"We’re going somewhere as a group."
Coach Terry Wallace said that although Raines doesn't have the natural ability of some of his teammates, his intensity and resolve were clear strengths.
"He just had a horrific season, the kid just didn’t have an opportunity to get on the park," Wallace said.
"After the kneecap he lost a bit of size and shape to the leg, and so then he did a hammy and then did a thigh, so he had a wipe-off year.
"He started his pre-season back in August and he’s as fit as a mallee bull and pretty damned determined.
"To be honest, that’s how he needs to play. It is that attack on the footy, the intensity levels that he plays with and the real competitive nature that he plays with, that allows him to be a good player for us.
"I’m just very pleased to have him back, because he’s another number that puts pressure on everyone else."
http://www.afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=71232
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Make or break season for Rainsey. Has to do alot to get back up the pecking order and be considered for selection. Could be trade bait for the GC17.
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Interesting to see how he goes.
More pressure on his spot now than a season ago..
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His intensity and attack on the footy is unquestionable. What he does with it once he gets it...well that's another matter.
If his decision making and disposal skills have improved then he will be an asset for us this year. If not, then he will be making up the numbers at Coburg and probably traded or delisted at the end of his contract. He does have the same attack on the footy as his Dad did but Geoff knew how to dispose of the footy well.
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The AFL site has a poll asking if Rainesy is still in our best 22?
So far (51 votes):
Yes - 61%
No - 39%
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If there was a category for just hanging in by his nuts then I would have selected that one
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I thought Raines showed pretty good signs in Round 1 against Carlton
Obviously Round 2 was a write off
Happy to give him a chance, but at his age he has to start delivering or he'll be first in line to get the chop
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How did we all think Rainesy went last night in his first game back since his 2008 was written off by injury?
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Attack on the footy is excellent but his determination to run through everything in his way harms his performance, he needs to get some composure and instead of always trying to run through brick walls, he needs to look for an option and pass of the footy.
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he needs to get some composure and instead of always trying to run through brick walls, he needs to look for an option and pass of the footy.
Yep, or get some verve and swerve
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Attack on the footy is excellent but his determination to run through everything in his way harms his performance, he needs to get some composure and instead of always trying to run through brick walls, he needs to look for an option and pass of the footy.
Absolutely spot on Ramps
Agree 200%
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27 possies at 93% efficiency. Agree with Ramps' sentiments but a much improved performance from Geoff's boy.
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27 possies at 93% efficiency. Agree with Ramps' sentiments but a much improved performance from Geoff's boy.
wow thats surprising I wouldnt of picked that from being at the game hope fully the start to a huge year for young rainesy would be a good pickup in the dreamteam if he continues on with that form
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I didn't think he put a foot wrong all night.
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I didn't think he put a foot wrong all night.
I thought he got pinged a few to many times when he tried to "take them on" - his movement is pretty predictable, hence why (as I've said b4) teams have him worked out. the know which way he will go when he trys to baulk.
A couple of times the first option would have been better than trying to break the lines
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deer caught in the headlights.
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deer caught in the headlights.
You from the states?
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Loved the way his Dad played.
Not so keen on Pretty Boy Jnr.
Reckon he's outside our best 22.
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Was averaging 20 possies up until he went out last year, I'll stick with him @ 279 K in supercoach could be 1 of those bargins.
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I didn't think he put a foot wrong all night.
I thought he got pinged a few to many times when he tried to "take them on" - his movement is pretty predictable, hence why (as I've said b4) teams have him worked out. the know which way he will go when he trys to baulk.
A couple of times the first option would have been better than trying to break the lines
That's something I had noticed in his games previously but not so much in that game.
Felt he at least tried to straighten us up when we were often being pushed wide.
I suppose he did get caught but seemed to be able to get the hand pass away when necessary. I honestly noticed others being caught more than him.
Perhaps I should re-watch the game, though I found everything except the third quarter a bit dull and frustrating. Hard to appreciate the whole story on the TV too.
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raines is a limited footballer with a limited future.
He panics under pressure and his disposal is not up to the standard required.
However, I was happy to see him get back to full fitness on sunday and he did give his all. He will compete hard for the back pocket position with Jake King, may the best man win. Both will need to improve greatly to own the back pocket in the richmond senior side IMHO
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raines is a limited footballer with a limited future.
He panics under pressure and his disposal is not up to the standard required.
However, I was happy to see him get back to full fitness on sunday and he did give his all. He will compete hard for the back pocket position with Jake King, may the best man win. Both will need to improve greatly to own the back pocket in the richmond senior side IMHO
I agree with this, in an era where composure and good kicking skills will become the absolute minimum required to play in a successful side, Rainesy, King, Jackson, McGuane and Polo just to name afew, would be under the pump to keep there places on the list over the next 2 years.
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For someone who was playing his first game in a year I was very happy with Andrews performance on Sunday.
I love Jake Kings passion but lets face it ....Hes too small and gets too many goals kicked on him.
If Andrew can get anywhere near his 06 form that will do me.
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"Andrew Raines
Involved himself very well off half-back in his first game back from a knee injury sustained in the opening round. Had the ball 20 times, but was inconsistent in his efficiency. Still bounces the ball too soon in his run-and-carry efforts."
http://210.50.4.102/rfc/
Rawlings comment in his EOTT report today is another way of saying Rainesy holds onto the ball for too long and misses the first option to give off to.
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"Andrew Raines
Involved himself very well off half-back in his first game back from a knee injury sustained in the opening round. Had the ball 20 times, but was inconsistent in his efficiency. Still bounces the ball too soon in his run-and-carry efforts."
http://210.50.4.102/rfc/
Rawlings comment in his EOTT report today is another way of saying Rainesy holds onto the ball for too long and misses the first option to give off to.
yep panics, cant afford those in the team.
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more 'grunt' than McMahon
perhaps not as good a kick
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more 'grunt' than McMahon
perhaps not as good a kick
mcmahon is severly underrated by many , he is much more important to us than raines nd we need sanchez cos he never stops running and creating. never!
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I just think that Andrew needs an extended run in the team 4-6 weeks.He needs another chance and cant be judged on one game.
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I just think that Andrew needs an extended run in the team 4-6 weeks.He needs another chance and cant be judged on one game.
its not one game, im sure most have seen enough to know his limitations.
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He has played 2 games in 2 years....has just turned 23 and has 54 games under his belt.There may be more up side to his game-just give him a chance to settle back in the line up before we throw him on the scrap heap.
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The thing is Rainesy hasn't added any further strings to his bow since his 2006 rising star year. What you see now is what you saw then except that after 2006 opposition clubs have worked him out. He holds onto the ball for far too long and runs himself and the team into trouble. If he was to give off to the first option, run hard off the ball and then receive the ball back and then kick long, he'd be a dangerous player but he doesn't do that. He just tucks the footy under his arm and runs like he's playing NRL so his teammates especially upfield have little idea what he's doing :-\.
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Before he got injured he was ear marked for the middle, i still think that might be the best role for him , might also help him develop and give him more awareness and help him to dodge.
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Rainesy would need to show he can win the hard contested ball if he was to be moved into the middle. At the minute he's struggling even in his customary HBF role. Today he was out of sorts terribly even at VFL level :-\.
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hw is an overrated pretty boy living on his dads name
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