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Title: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: one-eyed on February 07, 2009, 07:26:42 PM
NAB Cup footy starts tonight. We get to see who we hopefully play in round 2.

It's also a chance to spot a cheap youngster for your Dreamteam/Supercoach side.

Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 07, 2009, 10:09:17 PM
The Pies are taking the NAB Cup seriously. Apart from Rocca and Medhurst they are playing a full strength side whereas the Eagles are youngsters with Kerr and Cox as the two subs. This is going to be a massacre.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 08, 2009, 06:32:56 AM
Only a Pies supporter could come up which such logic to have them now flag favourites lol

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13628796&postcount=1

They actually look like they have peaked too early although the Eagles were no competition. Swift looked okay for the Eagles although he is very slight for someone who had huge wraps pre-draft. I'd still take Cotch over Masten any day.
Title: Nick Maxwell gets 3 weeks
Post by: one-eyed on February 09, 2009, 04:56:04 PM
Maxwell will miss our 2nd round NAB Cup game if we get past Freo......

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New Collingwood captain Nick Maxwell is facing a three-match lay-off after being charged with rough conduct.

Maxwell made heavy contact with young Eagles player Patrick McGinnity during the opening match of the preseason competition on Saturday night.

The collision left McGinnity with a broken jaw.

Unlike O'hAilpin, Maxwell is able to serve some of his penalty during the preseason competition should he accept the offer.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/09/2486522.htm?section=sport

Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 09, 2009, 05:35:27 PM
I hate Collingwood but even I didn't think there was much in it watching it live. Maxwell probably would've got off if McGinnity's jaw wasn't broken. I guess these days you run the risk with any shirtfront or bump as any high contact even incidental is frowned upon by the AFL and the tribunal.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: F0551L on February 09, 2009, 11:36:47 PM
bugger me  from where i was sitting it was a great hit  maybe the wce should get in a couple of jars of toughen the  f up
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 14, 2009, 05:50:24 AM
Looks like a very similar year to 2008 for the Bombers. Sure they won but that all out attack gameplan didn't work last year yet they haven't changed it. They'll probably have a pretty good NAB Cup and first couple of rounds before they burn out again and end up bottom 4. Dempsey was very good, Lovett looked like he had his head switched on, Gumby showed signs and Quinn did alright for an Irish lad. But apart from that same old same old Essendon.

As for the Doggies they still haven't found a reliable KPP to solve their forward line problem. Grant like Gumby showed signs although his kicking can end up anywhere and he's not going to be able to carry the bullies at his young age and inexperience. The doggies as a whole were pretty flat too.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 14, 2009, 05:07:31 PM
I think they should re-name the NAB Cup 2009 - "HAPPY HANDBALL"

 :banghead :banghead

Constant handballing into trouble (aka one handball too many) seems to be the game of the moment  :P
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: wayne on February 14, 2009, 10:37:23 PM
I think they should re-name the NAB Cup 2009 - "HAPPY HANDBALL"

 :banghead :banghead

Constant handballing into trouble (aka one handball too many) seems to be the game of the moment  :P

All week i've been looking forward to watching any footy, but I turned this game off after the first quarter.  :scream
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 15, 2009, 06:53:46 PM
Agree WP about the happy handball  :P.

I know both sides last night had a number of their best players out but from the bits I saw of last night's game sheesh the Saints were ordinary. Still too slow in the midfield and without Riewoldt lacking other forward options.
Title: Nick Maxwell appeal fails - out for 4 weeks
Post by: one-eyed on February 17, 2009, 08:01:56 PM
Tribunal hands Maxwell four-match ban
By Ben Broad 6:56 PM Tue 17 February, 2009

COLLINGWOOD captain Nick Maxwell's challenge against his four-match ban for engaging in rough conduct against West Coast's Patrick McGinnity was dismissed by the AFL Tribunal on Tuesday night.

Collingwood produced medical evidence to show that the contact, that left McGinnity with a broken jaw, was from an accidental head clash, however the AFL did not accept the explanation and the original penalty stood.

http://afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=72233
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 17, 2009, 08:07:09 PM
What happens to the hip 'n' shoulder now ???

I know the kid suffered a broken jaw but I really cannot agree with this decision...

Is it or is it not a contact sport  ???

I wonder if the kid DIDN'T suffer a broken jaw if the result would have been the same...

Another example of the systems lack of consistency

Not defending Maxwell but if it was one of our blokes we'd be filthy on this decision I reckon
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 17, 2009, 11:14:02 PM
What happens to the hip 'n' shoulder now ???
Sadly it's R.I.P for it. Too much risk now to employ a fair hip and shoulder if the penalty is a month out of footy.

I can't believe I'm sticking up for a Magpie player but what a ridiculous decision. Footy is a contact sport and the injury  was an accident. There was no intent by Maxwell other than to bump McGinnity off the ball and clear a path for his teammate.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Mr Magic on February 17, 2009, 11:27:35 PM

I wonder if the kid DIDN'T suffer a broken jaw if the result would have been the same...


'If'? but he did.

I doubt this will change much at all.
Title: League guilty of injuring tradition (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on February 18, 2009, 03:02:33 AM
 :thumbsup

League guilty of injuring tradition
Michael Gleeson | February 18, 2009

ADRIAN Anderson (AFL) has been charged by the match review panel with a level-four offence for making forceful front-on contact with the tradition of the game.

Anderson is charged with rough contact in so much as his officers have sought to eliminate an accepted method of play, namely bumping an opponent.

The incident was assessed as intentional conduct (three points), high impact (three points) and body contact (one point). This is a total of seven activation points, resulting in a classification of a level-four offence, drawing 425 demerit points and a four-match ban. An early guilty plea reduces the penalty by 25 per cent and a three-match ban.

The summary of the offence is as follows: regardless of the AFL Tribunal's decision last night, the AFL's match review panel ruled that in its view it was negligent to bump, no matter how legally executed, if contact results in injury.

Anderson, as official custodian of the game, has instructed an interpretation of the rules such that a legal act can simultaneously be deemed an illegal act.

The circumstances of the breach were exposed in the Nick Maxwell case last night. Maxwell challenged player Patrick McGinnity of West Coast, who was parrying the ball near the boundary line.

Crucially, Maxwell opted against tackling McGinnity and chose to execute a bump, a choice hitherto available to the player, and given McGinnity was not in possession of the ball a tackle was not available to Maxwell. McGinnity was knocked over the boundary line and unfortunately will remain there for 10 weeks as his jaw was displaced in the clash.

The action, observed by the umpire, was considered undeserving of a free kick as Maxwell's elbow was down and his feet on the ground, and the West Coast player was in close proximity to the football and thus could have expected the contact.

It was, remember, an action that has been considered not only legal but a worthy part of the game until now. Thus the offence was to have injured.

Anderson's department has decreed that where the player has chosen to bump instead of tackle, he must wear the consequences if a player is injured. It is presumed that a player bumping, not tackling, is invariably seeking to maliciously injure.

Players, we are reminded, must observe a duty of care not to injure another. On that basis it would seem negligence extends to entering any contest during a football game lest an opponent — or teammate — is injured. Even accidentally.

St Kilda player Robert Eddy was also injured last weekend and will now miss a month because an umpire collided with him. The umpire's action was not negligence. It was an accident.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/league-injures-tradition/2009/02/17/1234632812116.html
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 18, 2009, 07:27:25 AM

I wonder if the kid DIDN'T suffer a broken jaw if the result would have been the same...


'If'? but he did.

I doubt this will change much at all.

Players have been hit with bumps like that Magic not sustained any injury and there has been no report...

As I said it's terrible the kids copped a broken jaw but that should not determine the penalty opr if there is a penalty/report (which in this case appears to be what has happened).

The contact should determine the penalty and I thought contact was reasonable in the circumstances...

Thank goodness they didn't have this ruling in 1995 or Scotty Turner would have been rubbed out for half a season
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 18, 2009, 11:44:22 AM
The tribunal contradicted themselves on the same day. If Maxwell should have shown a "duty of care" by not bumping McGinnity (even though the rules allow bumping within 5m of the ball and all players should be expecting contact around the ball ::) ) then how did Grover get off with his clenched fist to Polo's head  ???. Just more Anderson logic  :banghead.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: one-eyed on February 18, 2009, 12:06:54 PM
Just announced on SEN that Maxwell and Collingwood are appealing against the decision.

They are saying the suspension will give the Pies extra motivation to stay in the NAB Cup as each week longer they last the fewer games Maxwell has to miss during the H/A season.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Chuck17 on February 18, 2009, 03:28:55 PM
I was reading a post on BB about this which impressed me with its argument.  However I was more impressed by a bomber fan on that forum that can articulate in a coherent way without resorting to abuse.

PS I can't guarentee he didn't lift this from somewhere

http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=47090
"We acknowledge the shepherd was executed with a good technique" AFL legal Counsel Jeff Gleeson.

This statement is the crux of the entire matter, and reveals that the game is no longer the same. People are bemoaning that the head has always been protected, and that this is nothing new, but they ignore what the logical extension is.

A player can no longer go into a physical clash and know that, even if he does everything absolutely perfectly and within the written rules of the game, he is safe from the side effects. Just consider that for a moment. Not only is he now liable for his own actions, and expected to adhere to a strict code of behaviour, but he is also expected to somehow divine the future and allow for unforseen eventualities. In essence, we now demand that he predict the manifestly unpredictable. In a game that is literally BUILT on it's unpredictableness!

We use a non-predictable ball. Deliberately. We delight in seeing our greatest players track a ball that may bounce to the right one second, then shift back to the left. They prop, they shift their weight, they are in constant and random motion. It is the key to the game. And yet last night we introduced a new factor - you must be held accountable for not predicting what we really don't want you to predict anyway. Supporters of last nights events claim that the bump is not dead, it just has to be delivered correctly. Thing is, even the AFL admit that it was delivered correctly. The only thing Maxwell could have done differently was ......drumroll........ not to bump at all! Yep, Bingo! You've just killed it, in one swoop, without even having to declare it. It's simple: Players cannot now go into a contest, manage their actions perfectly, and be safe from retribution. So they won't. How can they?


Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 18, 2009, 09:26:23 PM
Very well said from whoever it was ... covers my view on it perfectly

Good find Chuck  :thumbsup
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 19, 2009, 04:36:19 PM
I was reading a post on BB about this which impressed me with its argument.  However I was more impressed by a bomber fan on that forum that can articulate in a coherent way without resorting to abuse.

PS I can't guarentee he didn't lift this from somewhere

http://www.bomberblitz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=47090
"We acknowledge the shepherd was executed with a good technique" AFL legal Counsel Jeff Gleeson.

This statement is the crux of the entire matter, and reveals that the game is no longer the same. People are bemoaning that the head has always been protected, and that this is nothing new, but they ignore what the logical extension is.

A player can no longer go into a physical clash and know that, even if he does everything absolutely perfectly and within the written rules of the game, he is safe from the side effects. Just consider that for a moment. Not only is he now liable for his own actions, and expected to adhere to a strict code of behaviour, but he is also expected to somehow divine the future and allow for unforseen eventualities. In essence, we now demand that he predict the manifestly unpredictable. In a game that is literally BUILT on it's unpredictableness!

We use a non-predictable ball. Deliberately. We delight in seeing our greatest players track a ball that may bounce to the right one second, then shift back to the left. They prop, they shift their weight, they are in constant and random motion. It is the key to the game. And yet last night we introduced a new factor - you must be held accountable for not predicting what we really don't want you to predict anyway. Supporters of last nights events claim that the bump is not dead, it just has to be delivered correctly. Thing is, even the AFL admit that it was delivered correctly. The only thing Maxwell could have done differently was ......drumroll........ not to bump at all! Yep, Bingo! You've just killed it, in one swoop, without even having to declare it. It's simple: Players cannot now go into a contest, manage their actions perfectly, and be safe from retribution. So they won't. How can they?



Awesome post. Totally agree :clapping


ps. the late great man did say Essendon supporters are Collingwood supporters who could read and write  ;D
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Mr Magic on February 19, 2009, 04:51:41 PM
The only issue I have in this incident is whether Maxwell's head catapulted into McGinty's jaw accidentally or whether it was his shoulder.
If it's Maxwell's head, he gets off as with accidental contact.
If it's his shoulder then the contact is too high and and no accident at all.
The AFL obviously think it's the later, lest I hope that they do. :-\

Still reckon all of this is a storm in a teacup regardless.
To suggest this will be the end of legal bumps is laughable.
Might iron out the odd illegal one though.

I also think people are confused about why 4 weeks.
The suspension isn't 4 weeks for a bump, it's 4 weeks because of Maxwell's carry over history and the appeal.
Most likely it was a 1/2 week suspension.

Storm in a tea cup.




Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 19, 2009, 08:06:24 PM
Pretty sure from the slow motion replay it was a head clash that resulted in McGinnity having his jaw broken. You're right Magic that Maxwell's priors bumped (excuse the pun) the penalty up to 4 weeks. If he had had a cleansheet and taken the early plea he would've got only 1 week.

The AFL consider Maxwell had a 'duty of care' and if he had gone directly for the ball instead of the bump (ie. he had another option) then no head clash would've have resulted and no injury. What I would argue is bumping is large part of our game tactically and Maxwell did the team thing bumping McGinnity 'fairly' out of the contest which allowed his teammate to freely run onto the loose ball. If he had gone for the ball it then becomes a 50/50 contest. It's unfortunate the kid ended up with a broken jaw but it was an incidental/accidental headclash and footy is a collision/contact sport. You're never going to remove collision injuries sadly. Just ask Browny  :(.

Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Chuck17 on February 20, 2009, 11:10:05 AM
Over on NBB they reckon Maxwell has been cleared.

Cant find confirmation on net though yet
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Chuck17 on February 20, 2009, 11:12:15 AM
Here we go, the bump is back

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25081613-19742,00.html
COLLINGWOOD has created history with captain Nick Maxwell becoming the first player to win an appeal under the new tribunal system. Maxwell overturned a charge of rough conduct and a four-match ban in front of the AFL Appeals Board at league headquarters at Telstra Dome.

Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: F0551L on February 20, 2009, 12:13:39 PM
 phew  common sense ( not as common as it ued to be thanks to all the bloody law and rules we NEED to have  :banghead :banghead) has finally prevailed  cant wait to hear all the bigs girls blouse supporters whinging on talkback radio tonight  :chuck :chuck :chuck  gimme a break
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Chuck17 on February 20, 2009, 10:14:40 PM
LOL at the umpire in the last qtr in the Blues vs Norths match letting out a big "oh poo" on a shocker of a bounce.

Also at Garland (sp?), if I heard right Buddy's cousin who weighs about 50kgs, couldn't look less like Buddy in build
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: DallasCrane on February 20, 2009, 10:47:58 PM
I think Carlton are looking good this year, hate to say that, bodes well for a great game rnd 1 though
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 21, 2009, 12:00:12 AM
I think Carlton are looking good this year, hate to say that, bodes well for a great game rnd 1 though
Agree DC. 80-90k crowd minimum. Both sides coming into round 1 on the back of massive hype.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Mr Magic on February 21, 2009, 12:04:19 PM
Agree DC. 80-90k crowd minimum. Both sides coming into round 1 on the back of massive hype.

Can both teams make the NAB final?
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: F0551L on February 21, 2009, 01:45:17 PM
 according to the fixtures they can


Round Two
 
Date Match Venue Ticket Agents On-sale
Thursday, 26 February 7:10pm 9. Richmond v Collingwood Telstra Dome Ticketmaster 1300 136 122
ticketmaster.com.au 9am Friday, 20 February
Saturday, 28 February 10. Geelong Cats/Adelaide v Sydney Swans/Port Adelaide To be confirmed To be confirmed 9am (local time) Monday, 23 February
Friday 27 February 7:40pm 11. Essendon v Brisbane Lions
 Telstra Dome Ticketmaster 1300 136 122
ticketmaster.com.au 9am Friday, 20 February
Sunday, 1 March 4:40pm 12. Carlton/North Melbourne v Hawthorn/Melbourne Telstra Dome 9am Monday, 23 February
Round Three
 
Date Match Venue Ticket Agents On-sale
Friday, 6 March 7:40pm 13. Winners of Matches 9 and 11 Telstra Dome To be confirmed
Saturday, 7 March 7:10pm 14. Winners of Matches 10 and 12 To be confirmed
Grand Final
Date Match Venue Ticket Agents On-sale
Saturday, 14 March 7:10pm 15. Winners of Matches 13 and 14 At venue to be
determined by the AFL To be confirmed
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on February 21, 2009, 03:31:54 PM
Yep

Winner of our game on Thursday plays winner of Essendon Bris Vegas in the semis.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 21, 2009, 06:13:04 PM
Agree DC. 80-90k crowd minimum. Both sides coming into round 1 on the back of massive hype.

Can both teams make the NAB final?
Yep Magic. We're in different groups. In fact we could end up playing Collingwood, Essendon and then Carlton in the next 3 weeks if we win our way through to the NAB Cup final.




Go Dees btw  ;D. 15 points up on the Hawks into the last quarter.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Chuck17 on February 21, 2009, 06:41:20 PM
Go Dees btw  ;D. 15 points up on the Hawks into the last quarter.

Just goes to show you how much you can read into these games
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 21, 2009, 06:48:35 PM
Quote
Go Dees btw  ;D. 15 points up on the Hawks into the last quarter.
Geez that's some choke even for a reigning wooden spooner. 33 points up at the start of the last quarter and then allowed the opposition to kick 6 goals to a point (3 of those goals in time-on) to lose. A shattering lost really even for a preseason game. Back-to-back spoons for the Dees. Roughead looked in ominous form for the Hawks. Won the game off his own boot.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: cub on February 21, 2009, 06:49:42 PM
 :banghead Damn was gunna call for a Carltank v Deez proper season grandfinal, stupid snow bunnies gave it up.

Yeah Yeah Hawthorn were not full strength, but Tankers were and North are gunna get their comeupance this year.

Shows how much you can read into these things.

That said think Us v Skunks is gunna be a good test.

Tell ya what the blooz supporters have allready got there Judd jumpers out and are dribbling all down the front .

Think it will be close between us again this year, but may have to load up and skin some of them baztardz for a second year running.

Round 1 is looming as massiver than what was allready massive  :rollin
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Chuck17 on February 21, 2009, 06:52:17 PM
Round 1 is looming as massiver than what was allready massive  :rollin

Never truer words spoken
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 21, 2009, 08:32:09 PM
Geelong are giving the Crows a spanking.

There's hardly anyone at the Dome tonight but with all the big supported Vic clubs winning this could turn out a record for crowds to the NAB Cup.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Ramps on February 21, 2009, 10:48:06 PM
Melbourne and North Melbourne are in deep trouble IMHO. Melbourne have the option of relocating to Casey and if they were smart theyd change the club name to Casey Demons and North ... well North should have gone to the Gold Coast with the proviso that there club name would have been Northern Kangaroos. North had a massive opportunity to lose the least of all clubs that have relocated. Anyway I dont see a good future for either of these clubs.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 22, 2009, 09:21:57 PM
The Dees are especially in trouble. They are going to be bottom 4 for at least the next couple of years and they have still don't have a major sponsor (almost fell off my chair when they said they had one lined up but are waiting for a better offer  ??? ). They are hardly attractive to major companies as wooden spooners playing Sunday on pay tv.


Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: WilliamPowell on February 22, 2009, 09:30:15 PM
Melbourne and North Melbourne are in deep trouble IMHO. Melbourne have the option of relocating to Casey and if they were smart theyd change the club name to Casey Demons and North ... well North should have gone to the Gold Coast with the proviso that there club name would have been Northern Kangaroos. North had a massive opportunity to lose the least of all clubs that have relocated. Anyway I dont see a good future for either of these clubs.

Tend to agree Ramps.

This time last year the media were carrying on about North and the support they were getting membership wise.... I said at the time it wasn't 2008 they needed to worry about it was trying to sustain those numbers in the future .... hate to say it but I told you so North

As for Melbourne.... well how do the relocate when their name is Melbourne.....

If I was Jim Stynes and his board I'd be staying in Tassie this and meeting with the government and saying we will move here and play 11 homes games a year here and btw can we have the $3 mill a year you give to Hawthorn
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Chuck17 on February 23, 2009, 11:49:36 AM
Roughead looked in ominous form for the Hawks. Won the game off his own boot.

Loved that kick of Dews to Roughead, 50m pass that was flat as and pinpointed Roughead who was in the middle of three Dees.

Hopefully the Dawks will reamin Buddy concious and allow Roughhead to get frustrated.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on February 28, 2009, 06:53:25 PM
With all the hype and attention on us, Carlton, Pies, Dons and Hawks, Geelong are quietly going on their business and looking ominous once again. No Ablett, Ling, Scarlett, Harley, Mooney, etc and they won pretty comfortably in the end over Port at AAMI.

All 3 ex-Tigers playing had quiet games too.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Hes My Hero on February 28, 2009, 08:18:07 PM
Hopefully the Dawks will reamin Buddy concious and allow Roughhead to get frustrated.

 :thumbsup :shh
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on March 02, 2009, 05:47:43 PM
With Croad having no preseason and still out and Gilham now also injured, it'll be interesting to see how the Hawks' backline holds up this year if both struggle to come up. Their zone will have to work overtime with no key defenders.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on March 06, 2009, 08:38:26 PM
I know no one cares about the NAB Cup but our goalkicking last week looks like costing us a spot in the preseason GF. Essendon are crap  :lol.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: tiogar on March 08, 2009, 09:13:57 AM
Frankly and honestly I expect Essendon to be bottom 4 this year. I'd be worried if I was a bomber. after years of success they seem to have settled into a boring mediocre style with dull faceless players. Essendon are crap as you say.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on March 08, 2009, 07:40:14 PM
Frankly and honestly I expect Essendon to be bottom 4 this year. I'd be worried if I was a bomber. after years of success they seem to have settled into a boring mediocre style with dull faceless players. Essendon are crap as you say.
Yep it's going to get worse before it's going to get better at Windy Hill. Bomber fans are going to have to get use to bottom 5 finishes. Back to the 70s at Bomberland.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Chuck17 on March 11, 2009, 01:19:20 PM
Just browsing on BB and the confidence is fairly low there as well.

They are bagging out some of their players as cant kick, cant play, they think their forward line stinks, they are questioning their recruiters and serving it up to Laycock as a dud.

It breaks my heart  :'(  ;D
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Chuck17 on March 11, 2009, 01:25:34 PM
While I am doing the rounds on NBB there is a funny photo of Travis Cloke copping the digit in his rusty bullet hole from a fan while lining up for a shot in last Friday's match.

http://www.magpies.net/nick/bb/viewtopic.php?t=48833

Unlike Cloke the kid didn't miss.

I know a lot of people wont see a humorous side in this but I couldn't help have a chuckle.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on March 12, 2009, 06:28:12 PM
Typical behaviour at a Collingwood game  :help :yep.

Just browsing on BB and the confidence is fairly low there as well.

They are bagging out some of their players as cant kick, cant play, they think their forward line stinks, they are questioning their recruiters and serving it up to Laycock as a dud.

It breaks my heart  :'(  ;D
They're only telling the truth  :lol. Laycock is a dud ;D
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Chuck17 on March 13, 2009, 08:53:25 AM
They're only telling the truth  :lol. Laycock is a dud ;D

A dud that cant kick straight lucky for us
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on March 13, 2009, 08:22:03 PM
Geelong still have the yips in front of goal in GFs.

Sounds like Egan has done his knee.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on March 13, 2009, 08:33:37 PM
The Pies losing another GF. World order is restored  :rollin
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on March 13, 2009, 09:13:55 PM
For the premiership is a cakewalk oops I meant pipedream
for the Crap Old Collingwood. :lol :rollin :lol
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on March 13, 2009, 09:42:09 PM
For the premiership is a cakewalk oops I meant pipedream
for the Crap Old Collingwood. :lol :rollin :lol
:rollin

It's like clockwork  :lol
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 13, 2009, 10:26:31 PM
Actually it was a relief to actually watch some decent footy rather than all that zoning crap

Thank you Geeeeeeeeeeeeeelong... I still can't stand ya but thank you



Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on March 14, 2009, 04:14:06 AM
Actually it was a relief to actually watch some decent footy rather than all that zoning crap

Thank you Geeeeeeeeeeeeeelong... I still can't stand ya but thank you
True WP. The Cats are going to be very hard to beat again this year. Round 2 will see where we a truly at even if we knock off the Blues.


ps. I'm still laughing at the Pies getting flogged in another GF  :rollin. It makes it even more sweeter if you have a read of Nick's Collingwood bulletin board. Some of those fruitloops there are blaming the umps after a 12 goal hiding  :lol  :stupid
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 14, 2009, 09:34:59 AM
True WP. The Cats are going to be very hard to beat again this year. Round 2 will see where we a truly at even if we knock off the Blues.


I think last night showed that Geeeeeeeeeeeelong are the best team in the comp by a long way. They just stepped up a gear and they couldn't be stopped

IMHO they are a better team than the Hawks even though the Hawks won last year's flag.

I reckon there is Geelong a gap then perhaps Hawthorn and then another group. I dn't think anyone can seriously bunch Collingwood in with the Cats & Hawks ::)
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: 2JD on March 14, 2009, 09:41:45 AM
Actually it was a relief to actually watch some decent footy rather than all that zoning crap

Thank you Geeeeeeeeeeeeeelong... I still can't stand ya but thank you
True WP. The Cats are going to be very hard to beat again this year. Round 2 will see where we a truly at even if we knock off the Blues.


ps. I'm still laughing at the Pies getting flogged in another GF  :rollin. It makes it even more sweeter if you have a read of Nick's Collingwood bulletin board. Some of those fruitloops there are blaming the umps after a 12 goal hiding   :lol  :stupid


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :rollin :clapping :ROTFL :thatsgold :woohoo :ROTFL :lol
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on March 14, 2009, 01:11:15 PM
I think last night showed that Geeeeeeeeeeeelong are the best team in the comp by a long way. They just stepped up a gear and they couldn't be stopped

IMHO they are a better team than the Hawks even though the Hawks won last year's flag.

I reckon there is Geelong a gap then perhaps Hawthorn and then another group. I dn't think anyone can seriously bunch Collingwood in with the Cats & Hawks ::)
Except deluded Pies supporters who got over-excited over beating sides who didn't care about the NAB Cup  :wallywink.

Agree about Geelong WP. Best side by a mile and playing great footy to watch. Hawthorn pinched one last year thanks to the Pussies choking in front of the big sticks.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: Chuck17 on March 16, 2009, 04:48:48 PM
Not that it bothers us but Stevens looks set to miss R2 through suspension as well barring a successful appeal

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/sport/afl/story/0,27009,25194260-5016140,00.html
MAGPIE Chris Bryan is in the clear for his bump on Joel Selwood, but Blue Nick Stevens has copped a one-match ban. The match review panel charged Stevens with striking Fremantle's Nick Suban. The Carlton midfielder's prior record means he can't avoid suspension with an early plea.

Stevens will already miss Carlton's Round 1 match against Richmond due to a suspension incurred last year, meaning he may miss the first two rounds of the season. If he takes the charge to the tribunal and loses he will risk adding another week to his suspension.

Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on March 16, 2009, 09:51:02 PM
Bryan is very very lucky to get off. His feet were off the ground when he collected Selwood.
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: WilliamPowell on March 16, 2009, 10:34:59 PM
Bryan is very very lucky to get off. His feet were off the ground when he collected Selwood.

Correct decision for mine..

He didn't make contact with the head.... sanity has prevailed.

Although next week I am sure they'll interept it in the totally opposite manner

That's how the system works isn't it  :-\
Title: Re: NAB Cup: non-Richmond games
Post by: mightytiges on March 17, 2009, 07:25:35 PM
Bryan is very very lucky to get off. His feet were off the ground when he collected Selwood.

Correct decision for mine..

He didn't make contact with the head.... sanity has prevailed.

Although next week I am sure they'll interept it in the totally opposite manner

That's how the system works isn't it  :-\
I'm not saying it was the wrong decision it's just Bryan was very very lucky Selwood slipped and moved to his right so Bryan only collected Selwood's shoulder. If Selwood had stayed where he was Bryan with his feet off the ground in the air would've collected Selwood high and been in trouble. You leave yourself open to be reported and suspended once you leave the ground to bump.