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Aaron Fiora could not escape Matthew Pavlich comparison
Mike Sheahan | February 21, 2009
FOR reasons beyond his control, Aaron Fiora will forever be known by Richmond's hardcore supporters as the player who cost them Matthew Pavlich.
It is as if he put his hand in the air on draft day in 1999 and cried, "Pick me, pick me".
It is a load he carried through the bulk of his nine years at AFL level.
Richmond surprised by taking the wispy Fiora at No. 3 in the '99 draft, with Fremantle taking Pavlich with the following pick.
"I'd be lying to say I didn't think about it a lot for a long time," Fiora said this week.
"I suppose supporters soon saw how big Pav was and that he was ready-made, and I was a skinny little kid who weighed about 67kg.
"Sometimes I'd get a bit down and think, 'Maybe I'm not good enough, yeah, Richmond probably did make a mistake'.
"Yeah, I thought like that at times.
"Then I thought, 'It's not my fault that's how it worked out'.
"You copped it on the field too. Blokes saying, 'How the hell did you get picked ahead of Pav '?
"You just sort of laughed and said, 'Go and tell the Richmond people that; it doesn't worry me too much'.
"It never hurt on the field; it's all part of the game. None of it is hurtful unless it's about race or religion, things like that."
Fiora said he was surprised to be taken ahead of Pavlich, thinking he was headed for Freo, with its second or third selection (No. 4 and 5).
Those at Freo at the time have indicated Fiora would have been preferred to Pavlich had it been a choice between the pair at No. 4.
Neither player had had a memorable under-18 carnival that year.
In Fiora's case, there was a big mark in one game, an impressive goal in another, yet nothing outstanding in quantity.
"People must have thought, 'There's something to work with'," he said.
It was his subsequent form at Port Adelaide that impressed the recruiters.
"I played about four or five games where it was amazing," he said.
"At Port Adelaide, I could always get the footy. Then when I got to AFL and didn't get as much of it, I'd think, 'What's going on, how come I don't get it as much any more?'
"I always thought I could be as good as how Pav was going. I always tried to convince myself I could be as good for my club as he is for his.
"Not thinking I could be a better footballer than him, though.
"But I probably wasn't as mentally strong. His down days, he just works through it a bit better, and that's why he's such a good footballer.
"He was always the best in the junior days. Maybe they (the recruiting people) thought he might have matured early.
"Maybe they thought I'd shoot up and get big quick and then improve in the first couple of years."
Whatever the rationale at the time, Pavlich is a giant in the game, Fiora contemplates life after football, and Richmond supporters ponder what might have been.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25084111-19742,00.html
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Aaron Fiora - renovating heart and home
Mike Sheahan | February 21, 2009
AARON Fiora remembers his first AFL coach, Danny Frawley, telling him his choices.
The Richmond coach of 2000 told the youngster from Adelaide he could sail through to 150 games, or apply himself and play 200-plus.
"Danny used to say, 'With your talent, you'll float through to 150'," Fiora told the Herald Sun this week.
Then the coach challenged him.
"Or, you can be a really good player and play your 200-odd."
Fiora pauses, then says "he was right . . . floated through and played the 140, yeah . . ."
Frawley's warning rings in his ears now, his AFL career over at 27. After nine seasons at two clubs. Just the 140 games.
Reluctantly, Fiora is addressing life after the AFL.
He is busy renovating his Northcote house, coming to terms with the pending arrival of his first child - his wife, Elly, is due in April - and getting to know his new teammates at East Ringwood.
He is, though, disappointed, a little confused, a bit angry.
How can it be over so soon? So suddenly? Not only did he have a year to run on his contract with St Kilda, he played in a preliminary final in his last game.
How on earth does that happen? To a bloke who played all 22 games in 2007. To a No. 3 choice in a national draft.
Fact is it happened and Fiora will play in the burbs this year. With his younger brother, Scott, 23.
He doesn't know how it all fell apart, but he accepts a share of the blame.
He acknowledges the huge gap between his best and worst throughout his career, knows he struggled mentally, that he was dogged by his lack of self-belief and did little about it, that he may even have been a bit pig-headed.
"I thought when I got drafted first round, 'I'm going to play 10 years, no worries'," he said.
"Now you know it just doesn't happen if you don't work hard enough."
Yet, he's still struggling to come to terms with the impact of that fateful meeting in October, when he was called in to see club officials at Moorabbin.
"Matty Drain (general manager of football and list management) told me they wanted to catch up with me just after the season, but I was going away for a couple of weeks," Fiora said.
"I just thought it would be a meeting about the next year, how it would be make-or-break sort of thing.
"I had a year left on a contract and I was thinking, 'If I don't have a good year, I'm out'. I just never thought about getting delisted.
"Came into the room and all the big boys are in there and I thought, 'Oh, well, maybe something's going on here'."
He was confronted by coach Ross Lyon, Drain and football manager Greg Hutchison, all wearing grim faces.
"Ross thought I'd had the best pre-season I'd ever had (2008), but that I hadn't improved on the year before and there must be something wrong and I might not have any more improvement left in me," Fiora said.
"I just sort of sat there. I was just shocked more than anything. I didn't know what to say. It was afterwards when I was driving home that I started thinking about it and what my responses could have been.
"It was way too late.
"No, I didn't argue. That might be a little bit of a downfall as well. I've just always copped it, never really come back with anything.
"I haven't really spoken to anyone about it. Not even my wife. She's not really into the AFL thing.
"Lately, she's been asking how I'm feeling. There was a bit where I was pretty angry and I was trying to keep away from her.
"I had some demolition work to do before these guys (builders) came in. Maybe that helped. I think I got a bit emotional at the time. It's the mateship thing.
"You don't miss doing the hard work, it's doing it with all your mates.
"The showers (after training). I don't know how to explain it, but it's that good.
"You get in there and talk crap with the boys, you hear from the young blokes what they've been getting up to. Then you jump into the ice baths and they're all yelling and screaming and 'Milney's' (Stephen Milne) going mad. It's just good fun. You feel so good you've done it all together."
Fiora suspects he has been his own worst enemy.
"If you talked to my teammates they'd probably say it was a mental thing. When I was going well, I couldn't keep it going and when I was going poor, I was really poor. I was never in between," he said.
"One thing I never did was talk to the good players. I never went to 'Richo' (Matthew Richardson), or Wayne (Campbell), or Paul Broderick or Matthew Knights or Robert Harvey to see what they used to do when they were in a bit of a lull."
He blames shyness and even a little bit of ego.
"Maybe a little bit pig-headed as well because I was a top draft pick and sometimes when you're young, without saying it, you think, 'I don't have to, I'll be right'," Fiora said.
"Then after a while you think to yourself, 'I'm not going so well, I should talk to these blokes' or the sports psych; he's right there, all I've got to do is go and say 'I need to catch up with you'.
"We might have spoken once, but I never followed it up.
"I think that's the thing that's probably killed me in the end.
"The difference between playing well to not playing well. If I could have been in between, I'd be still going.
"I probably never worked through things. There could have been times when I could have knocked it on the head, worked hard to get through it.
"Early on, the harder stuff, I was never that good at, but the last three years, it was never really an issue.
"I still wasn't the toughest man around, but when I had to go, I'd go.
"Also being an early draft pick and then not playing well and getting dropped.
"Should have seen someone earlier about working through those things."
Fiora played just 10 games in 2008 and was a surprise inclusion in the team that played Hawthorn in a preliminary final.
"Once the season finished, I was already looking forward to next year," he said.
"To be honest, it was probably the first time I've ever started following the off-season (training) program instead of just making up my own stuff."
He shrugs his shoulders and says he has moved on.
"I have now. Knowing that the top level's finished, there's bigger things to look forward to," Fiora said.
"I did think it was the end of the world for a while," and he smiles.
He leaves with a satisfactory financial settlement with the club, a modest degree of satisfaction to have played 140 games, and fond memories of 2007.
"I was doing the things I wasn't always good at that year: more tackles, more head-over-the-footy sort of thing, plenty of shots on goal," Fiora said.
"Ross kept persisting with me that year, then I came good; this year (2008), he just slipped me straight out so I was a bit filthy about that."
It seems confidence was critical.
"When I was confident, I always thought I could jump over anyone, mark anything," Fiora said.
"Then, something like one shocking kick and it's gone. It can be as easy as that. I always had faith in my ability. I always thought I was one of the best kicks, always thought I was one of the most skilled at both clubs.
"I've never doubted that I could play, sometimes I just doubted myself out there.
"Ross said at the meeting, 'We've probably got more belief in you than you do yourself'. He's probably right but then I thought straight away, 'Why the hell are you peeing me off'?"
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25084112-19742,00.html
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Well I'm very glad we got rid of him in the move to get Simmo, what a gift.
Bentliegh-esque mentioned in the tiger memories to forget taking this pansy over Pav.
God I hope we start getting a few more of these top ten to fifteen draft picks right over the next ten years.
Lids, Cotch, Jack all get the big tick
Bling, Meyer, Patto, JON have to be crosses so far
We now also have former top 15's in Jordie :help, Hislop, Thommo and picked up Vickery these I am prepared to put in the to be determined box (Jordie is very lucky to be there).
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Let's hope we not reading a similar article about Ritchie in a few years.
Big season coming up for Bling, I hope someone throws him this article.
Still he's already been way more productive than Fiora ever was for us. :P
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Let's hope we not reading a similar article about Ritchie in a few years.
Big season coming up for Bling, I hope someone throws him this article.
Still he's already been way more productive than Fiora ever was for us. :P
Spot on. I will give him 2 years but this year want to see some decent levels of consistency.
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Lol, Spud Frawley, motivation supremo. :-X :help :scream
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You almost feel sorry for him after reading that article, imho he could offer something at VFL level, and it seems he has learnt the lessons of life very very hard, youd almost take the chance of signing him as a coburg player and see if he has any potential down the track in some other capacity as an assistant coach type scenario. Plenty of ordinary players have become good assistants because they understood there own mistakes as players and passed on that life experience to younger players. I like to see people who have made mstakes admit they made them. Its a real shame for him though. He seems very unfullfilled in terms of his AFL career.
Bling hopefully doesnt become the next fiora.
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Agree Ramps. You feel sorry for him reading that. A former player actually admitting he cruised through.
It's the club's fault we went for Fiora over Pavlich. A classic case of getting it all wrong because we went for "need" over best available and even then Fiora never suited that "need" in the first place. The team of the late 90s was criticized for playing on passion alone and lacking footskills (have things changed :-\ ) and pace/run through the midfield. Fiora was highly rated as a junior especially coming from Port Magpies and we already had Richo and Ottens so we went in blindly looking for a midfielder. Too bad Fiora was just a flanker and not a footy smart one either. Hell we even overlooked Joel Corey :-\.
The ironic thing is though the club that did get Pavlich has been as crap as us too in the 10 years since that draft. Just goes to shows it takes building a whole team, list and club to be successful; not just one player no matter how good he is.
Another thing is you'd hope now the communication within the Tiger playing group and between the newbies and the oldies/leaders is fundamentally better and more open now. Teammates showing genuine interest in how each other is going. There's a lot of talk now about this current crop being a genuinely closeknit group because they have all come through together at the same time. So hopefully those bad old days and culture that Fiora mentioned are now long gone at Punt Rd.
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"No, I didn't argue. That might be a little bit of a downfall as well. I've just always copped it, never really come back with anything.
uhhh....more than likely.
Clearly the guy has dome major head miles over this and my heart goes out to him.
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Well I'm very glad we got rid of him in the move to get Simmo, what a gift.
Bentliegh-esque mentioned in the tiger memories to forget taking this pansy over Pav.
God I hope we start getting a few more of these top ten to fifteen draft picks right over the next ten years.
Lids, Cotch, Jack all get the big tick
Bling, Meyer, Patto, JON have to be crosses so far
We now also have former top 15's in Jordie :help, Hislop, Thommo and picked up Vickery these I am prepared to put in the to be determined box (Jordie is very lucky to be there).
Glad you were NOT my teacher, Bling, Jordie and Patto deserve a B to a C in my book. I dont belive it was Adam Fiona's fault he was picked but Frawley's, I reckon he came across to stuff the club up and the way he bags the Tiges on the radio only adds weight to the therory. How many good picks did we get when he had an imput?
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soft, gutless prick >:(
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I dont belive it was Adam Fiona's fault he was picked but Frawley's, I reckon he came across to stuff the club up and the way he bags the Tiges on the radio only adds weight to the therory. How many good picks did we get when he had an imput?
What's the old saying - where you see a conspiracy it's really incompetence ;D. The 1999 Fiora draft and 2001 superdraft were major stuff-ups under Spud. There's no one left from those drafts. Add Geisch's input where we have no-one left and that period 1997-2002 was a disaster zone as far as recruiting. That's why there's still a gap between our 30 year olds down to Newy. At least now we have a large group starting to move into their early 20s and the prime 22-27 age bracket.
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soft, gutless prick >:(
Yep exactly.
Your paid 200/300k not to mope around and feel sorry for yourself.
The article was soft as he was in every game he played for us.
Sadly Tambling is destined for the same career if he doesn't pull his finger out of his behind
Judd up until a few years was a brownlow medalist and a premiership captain. Hodge was in his shadows, albeit just.
Look at Hodge now. What a gun!!
I would love no better than Bling to prove me wrong but history of the RFC shows it he is on the same path
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Fiona (as my friends and I always liked to call him) and mistakes like him are the exact reason why recruiters now value player attitude much more than they once did. Camps, tests and years of observation (rather than just a few games) have made recruitment is a much more exact art science. Bling is no Fiona, he has a tremendous work ethic and maturity. Bling needs the confience and arrogance Fiora had, such as what he came to the club with before he was injuried in his first season.
Fiona was another terrible mistake by Spud and we have learnt from this period. If a few of our recruits do not live up to expectation then we now have a multitude of players who can step up past them. Depth is the key to a good side so recruits that don't develop do not leave a hole that can not be filled.
Fiona wasn't the worst recruiting mistake we made, it was the years after years of poor recruiting decisions that was the most destructive. Just another reason why recruiters and development coaches are so vital to ultimate club success.
I, like the rest of you, hope that players such as Bling, Polo, Patto and JON will be successes but unlike in the past, if they are not then we will have the depth to still create a success side.
Stripes
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Sadly Tambling is destined for the same career if he doesn't pull his finger out of his behind
Tambling has improved every year daniel.
He may not be the star we hoped he'd become but he's no Fiora.
Bling is currently serviceable at least.
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Well I'm very glad we got rid of him in the move to get Simmo, what a gift.
Bentliegh-esque mentioned in the tiger memories to forget taking this pansy over Pav.
God I hope we start getting a few more of these top ten to fifteen draft picks right over the next ten years.
Lids, Cotch, Jack all get the big tick
Bling, Meyer, Patto, JON have to be crosses so far
We now also have former top 15's in Jordie :help, Hislop, Thommo and picked up Vickery these I am prepared to put in the to be determined box (Jordie is very lucky to be there).
Glad you were NOT my teacher, Bling, Jordie and Patto deserve a B to a C in my book. I dont belive it was Adam Fiona's fault he was picked but Frawley's, I reckon he came across to stuff the club up and the way he bags the Tiges on the radio only adds weight to the therory. How many good picks did we get when he had an imput?
As I said crosses so far in terms of where they were picked as opposed to others in their drafts.
Bling, Meyer, Patto, JON may still come good, but currently Bling is looking ordinary in comparison to at least Franklin and Lewis, Meyer will (possibly) be coming good at another club, Patto looks to be a battler at best and JON......
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Sadly Tambling is destined for the same career if he doesn't pull his finger out of his behind
Tambling has improved every year daniel.
He may not be the star we hoped he'd become but he's no Fiora.
Bling is currently serviceable at least.
i dont think he is to be honest.
One really good game against the eagles and a few serviceable games dont make a player.
He is borderline in our best 22.
I have even read an article i think last year where he said "it was hard getting himself compared to Buddy"
My reply to that is tough. He was given an opportunity to play football with an AFL club, an opportunity that most people don't get so stop feeling sorry for yourself and play some fcu.kin football
Problem is he may not even have the talent
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Fiona (as my friends and I always liked to call him) and mistakes like him are the exact reason why recruiters now value player attitude much more than they once did. Camps, tests and years of observation (rather than just a few games) have made recruitment is a much more exact art science. Bling is no Fiona, he has a tremendous work ethic and maturity. Bling needs the confience and arrogance Fiora had, such as what he came to the club with before he was injuried in his first season.
Fiona was another terrible mistake by Spud and we have learnt from this period. If a few of our recruits do not live up to expectation then we now have a multitude of players who can step up past them. Depth is the key to a good side so recruits that don't develop do not leave a hole that can not be filled.
Fiona wasn't the worst recruiting mistake we made, it was the years after years of poor recruiting decisions that was the most destructive. Just another reason why recruiters and development coaches are so vital to ultimate club success.
I, like the rest of you, hope that players such as Bling, Polo, Patto and JON will be successes but unlike in the past, if they are not then we will have the depth to still create a success side.
Stripes
Problem is there have been worst decisions to come.
petticoat
patto
meyer
JON
Porn star mcmahon. come on boys was he seriously necessary stuff me dead
Lets see if Hislop is any good. Judging by the other night he will be another rubbish draft selection.
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Beck has escaped scrutiny for his decision in this draft on this thread. Spud was involved, but ultimately Beck made the call.
Also Fiona touches on the culture of the playing group at the time, which was arrogant without performance (hear that Daffy)!!
RFC in 09 is a different place to 99, and hopefully a sustained finals presence is near with a genuine tilt for a flag possible with this list minus plebes like AAron.
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I know it doesn't bear on the RFC choice but who was 1 and 2 in that draft?
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Beck has escaped scrutiny for his decision in this draft on this thread. Spud was involved, but ultimately Beck made the call.
Also Fiona touches on the culture of the playing group at the time, which was arrogant without performance (hear that Daffy)!!
RFC in 09 is a different place to 99, and hopefully a sustained finals presence is near with a genuine tilt for a flag possible with this list minus plebes like AAron.
Not sure if that's how I remember it. Fraudley told Beck to get him the best midfielder/linkman with good skills. Fiora was the best of those available at the time.
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I know it doesn't bear on the RFC choice but who was 1 and 2 in that draft?
your right.
it doesn't bear on the RFC selections.
i am only interested in who select and not other teams.
paul haselby
josh "i look 40 years old" frazer
darren glass
luke mcpharline
joel corey all round out the top 10 and we got Fiona
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1999 National Draft
1- Josh Fraser Collingwood (Priority)
2- Paul Hasleby Fremantle (Priority)
3- Aaron Fiora Richmond
4- Matthew Pavlich Fremantle
5- Leigh Brown Fremantle
6- Damian Cupido Brisbane
7- Danny Roach Collingwood 1
8- Joel Corey Geelong
9- Cayden Beetham St Kilda
10- Luke McPharlin Hawthorn
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Thanks for that :thumbsup
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Problem is he may not even have the talent
Harsh IMO but I guess he's open to some criticism as he's fallen short of expectations.
This season will tell us plenty about which way Richie is headed.
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........all round out the top 10 and we got Fiona
4 out of that Top 10 were outright duds (Fiora, Cupido, Roach and Beetham), 1 is average at best (Brown) and the jury is still out on 1 more (Hasleby) so we weren't the only ones in that draft to get it wrong. Hell, Freo picked Hasleby before Pavlich and you should listen to what many of their supporters think of him - you reckon Tambling is an under performer, well at least he has shown visible and significant improvement each year and still has time and youth on his side. More than half of the clubs with Top 10 picks got it wrong that year so don't generalise and single us out as the worst club at recruiting - we get some wrong just like all the others but certainly no more than our fair share.
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1999 National Draft
1- Josh Fraser Collingwood (Priority)
2- Paul Hasleby Fremantle (Priority)
3- Aaron Fiora Richmond
4- Matthew Pavlich Fremantle
5- Leigh Brown Fremantle
6- Damian Cupido Brisbane
7- Danny Roach Collingwood 1
8- Joel Corey Geelong
9- Cayden Beetham St Kilda
10- Luke McPharlin Hawthorn
Us taking Fiora ahead of Pavlich saved Collingwood from public ridicule in the draft. In fact they should still equally cop the criticism we have, for trading pick 3 + Clinton King to us for our pick 7 + McKee. So they missed out on Pavlich for Danny Roach and McKee.
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Fiora should be the antidote to any suggestion of not picking up the best available player...
We had Richo, Ottens, Holland, James, Gaspar back then so they went small.
The article just confirms that Fiora wasn't headstrong enough to make it in the AFL. The lad hardly put on an ounce of weight in his career - one has to wonder if he ever really bust his gut.
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Problem is he may not even have the talent
Harsh IMO but I guess he's open to some criticism as he's fallen short of expectations.
This season will tell us plenty about which way Richie is headed.
Sadly Mr Magic i think Bling will see a fair bit of Jade and the boys this year. I personally don't think he is in our best 22. He will have to earn his spot NOW rather than just getting a game on pure hope. (just on that, what is his spot?)
Edit to correct quoting - WP
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The article just confirms that Fiora wasn't headstrong enough to make it in the AFL. The lad hardly put on an ounce of weight in his career - one has to wonder if he ever really bust his gut.
That's the one thing that stood out to me
I couldn't believe he thought of things to say to the Saints after he left the building...... but said nothing while he was there....
It was your career Aaron ::) :banghead
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the old woe is me from Aaron. :sleep
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........all round out the top 10 and we got Fiona
4 out of that Top 10 were outright duds (Fiora, Cupido, Roach and Beetham), 1 is average at best (Brown) and the jury is still out on 1 more (Hasleby) so we weren't the only ones in that draft to get it wrong. Hell, Freo picked Hasleby before Pavlich and you should listen to what many of their supporters think of him - you reckon Tambling is an under performer, well at least he has shown visible and significant improvement each year and still has time and youth on his side. More than half of the clubs with Top 10 picks got it wrong that year so don't generalise and single us out as the worst club at recruiting - we get some wrong just like all the others but certainly no more than our fair share.
Paul Hasleby (born 12 June 1981) is an Australian rules footballer. He plays as a rover (or midfielder) for the Fremantle Football Club. In his debut season he was named the AFL Rising Star and has finished in the top 10 of the Fremantle Best and Fairest award (The Doig Medal) in every season that he has played, including runner-up in 2000 and 2004 and third in 2003. Whilst not the quickest player, he is noted for his quick hands and strong marking ability for a player of his size
Larke Medal 1999
AFL Rising Star nominee Rd 1, 2000
AFL Rising Star Winner, 2000
International rules series 2003
All-Australian 2003
Glendinning Medal Rd 16 2002, Rd 22 2003, Rd 6 2004
Just for the record, the jury's not out.
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Paul Hasleby (born 12 June 1981) is an Australian rules footballer. He plays as a rover (or midfielder) for the Fremantle Football Club. In his debut season he was named the AFL Rising Star and has finished in the top 10 of the Fremantle Best and Fairest award (The Doig Medal) in every season that he has played, including runner-up in 2000 and 2004 and third in 2003. Whilst not the quickest player, he is noted for his quick hands and strong marking ability for a player of his size
Larke Medal 1999
AFL Rising Star nominee Rd 1, 2000
AFL Rising Star Winner, 2000
International rules series 2003
All-Australian 2003
Glendinning Medal Rd 16 2002, Rd 22 2003, Rd 6 2004
Just for the record, the jury's not out.
Just for the record, yeah it is. That's not much of a return for a priority top order draft pick - the ONLY claim to fame worth anything to a 'top shelf' AFL player in that lot is All-Australian 2003. As for the rest - meh - many good ordinary players have achieved those. Actually, some good ordinary players have won All-Australian's too. Just like what Hasleby currently is - a frustrating good ordinary player.
6 out 10 not worth the pick they went for in that draft - don't single Richmond out.
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That's who Richmond wanted in the '99 draft.
One of many sensational players whose injury plagued careers will have them only remembered as good or ok.
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It was hard not to feel a little bit sorry for Aaron after reading that.
Having said that, it confirmed what I had always suspected about Fiora- he ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.
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Porn star mcmahon. come on boys was he seriously necessary eff me dead
To answer that question it is needful to look at the circumstances on why he was recruited and what other alternatives there were.
I am under the impression that it was recognised at RFC that our rebound out of defence was slow and stilted. That this type of approach was giving opposition teams more opportunity to flood back and block our scoring opportunities. I think it was reliased that this was not going to move our club forward and that a quick, accurate rebounding defender was needed to boost our scoring and give our forwards every opportunity to get the ball cleanly.
Were there options within the club to fulfil this role. I dont think so, Raines would be the only other candidate and I think he falls a bit short in this role IMO.
Were there any other options outside the club for this role. Honestly I don't know but they made a decision that McMahon was the best available for the role, he is quick and I believe his disposal is good.
I believe the role was absolutely necessary but whether McMahon is the best for the role my jury is still out although I think at the present time he is. Of course we would all like our footballers heavily accountable and tougher but these attributes in an extreme go against the role McMahon was recruited for.
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Sadly Mr Magic i think Bling will see a fair bit of Jade and the boys this year. I personally don't think he is in our best 22. He will have to earn his spot NOW rather than just getting a game on pure hope. (just on that, what is his spot?)
Running off half back with stints on the ball. If that doesn't work then I agree, Coburg may be calling.
Porn star mcmahon. come on boys was he seriously necessary eff me dead
Probably wouldn't have been if Wallace had developed Meyer or Tambling off HB earlier but for all his faults Sanchez is a fair way ahead of those two currently unfortunately.
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Paul Hasleby (born 12 June 1981) is an Australian rules footballer. He plays as a rover (or midfielder) for the Fremantle Football Club. In his debut season he was named the AFL Rising Star and has finished in the top 10 of the Fremantle Best and Fairest award (The Doig Medal) in every season that he has played, including runner-up in 2000 and 2004 and third in 2003. Whilst not the quickest player, he is noted for his quick hands and strong marking ability for a player of his size
Larke Medal 1999
AFL Rising Star nominee Rd 1, 2000
AFL Rising Star Winner, 2000
International rules series 2003
All-Australian 2003
Glendinning Medal Rd 16 2002, Rd 22 2003, Rd 6 2004
Just for the record, the jury's not out.
Just for the record, yeah it is. That's not much of a return for a priority top order draft pick - the ONLY claim to fame worth anything to a 'top shelf' AFL player in that lot is All-Australian 2003. As for the rest - meh - many good ordinary players have achieved those. Actually, some good ordinary players have won All-Australian's too. Just like what Hasleby currently is - a frustrating good ordinary player.
6 out 10 not worth the pick they went for in that draft - don't single Richmond out.
Freo have been waiting for Hasleby to come back from injury as long as we have for Cogs. Hasleby is now 27 going on 28 this year. One of those unlucky footballers who miss what should have been his peak years.
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Porn star mcmahon. come on boys was he seriously necessary eff me dead
To answer that question it is needful to look at the circumstances on why he was recruited and what other alternatives there were.
I am under the impression that it was recognised at RFC that our rebound out of defence was slow and stilted.
Was this said or are you just making it up?
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It was hard not to feel a little bit sorry for Aaron after reading that.
Having said that, it confirmed what I had always suspected about Fiora- he ain't the sharpest tool in the shed.
Thats exactly why the RfC has failed in the last 25 years because of duds like Fiora.
Why feel sorry for him? He was given a chance to earn big bucks and was no good and good riddons to the skinny little pri.ck.
Haselby ain the best player out there, but please dont compare him to Fiora. the only player worth comparing with him is our very own Jordan Mcmahon. the only difference between the 2 is that poo above his lip.