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Title: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 13, 2009, 10:56:46 PM
Richmond Tigers coach Terry Wallace is on death row
Mike Sheahan | April 14, 2009 12:00am

TERRY Wallace went into the 2009 season knowing nothing less than a top-eight finish would keep him in a job.

At a minimum. In reality, he would need one finals win, maybe even two, to earn him an extension at Punt Rd.
 
Three rounds into his fifth season, Richmond is winless and last on the ladder.

In the history of the final eight, only three clubs have lost their first three games and gone on to play finals.

Richmond isn't going to be the fourth.

The Tigers have won two of 12 quarters of football this year. They are a mess. The coach is on death row.

They play Melbourne, 15th, at the MCG on Sunday in what might be titled Sunday, Bloody Sunday -- the sequel.

Wallace's Richmond teams have won 35 of 91 games and, it might be argued, the group is only marginally more accomplished than Danny Frawley's wooden-spoon collection of 2004.

Coaches must be judged on their records; a 38 per cent win rate over four and a bit seasons simply isn't good enough.

Wallace's players continue to let him down, yet the fact is he picks his teams and the coaching staff in general must accept responsibility for the decision-making and skill execution of those players.

3AW's Rex Hunt, a Richmond premiership player, said after the Tigers' 47-point loss to the Western Bulldogs at Etihad Stadium: "It's a dark day in the history of the Richmond Football Club."

What made the performance even worse was the broad view the Bulldogs played at 70-75 per cent of their capacity, yet still won by eight goals.

They didn't kick a goal until the second quarter, their first seven scores were behinds, and several of their better players had quiet afternoons.

The one mitigating fact for Richmond this year is its tough start: Carlton, Geelong (at Geelong) and the Bulldogs.

Those three have won eight of nine games.

Clearly, many of us were deceived by Richmond's statistically impressive second half of 2008, when it won eight of 11 games.

Of the eight scalps, only Hawthorn finished in the final eight. The Brisbane Lions were the next best and they finished 10th.

The question now is: Can the coach survive long enough to enjoy a more accommodating next few weeks?

Wallace said on April 3, after the first-round humiliation to Carlton: "We want to be judged over the next month."

They might be 2-3 at the end of that month.

Given the public utterances of president Gary March since the end of last season, I suspect the die is cast, but Wallace is entitled to that month.

What has cruelled Wallace is the pathetic performance against Carlton. Three honourable losses would have been acceptable to this point; sadly, only the defeat at Geelong came with any honour.

Yet it's hard to see how this group is going to get significantly better in a hurry.

The players who can help are Trent Cotchin, Andrew Raines, Ben Cousins and Kane Johnson, and maybe Jordan McMahon.

Cotchin is a future star who hasn't played this year, Raines is handy, McMahon is young enough, but is he good enough?

Cousins and Johnson are in their 30s, as are Joel Bowden, Nathan Brown, Matthew Richardson and Troy Simmonds, all of whom played against the Western Bulldogs.

The indictment on the coach is the failure of so many, particularly Richard Tambling and Jay Schulz, to develop in his time.

There's the failure of Jake King and Luke McGuane to improve their foot skills; the failure of the club to pick and/or develop a back-up ruckman for Simmonds.

Drafting? It's a recurring nightmare.

The best player in the game was Shaun Higgins, taken at No. 7 in 2005.

Dylan Addison went at 27 in that draft.

The Tigers took Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls at eight, Cleve Hughes at 24. Richardson remains Richmond's best player. At 34.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25330115-5015601,00.html
Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 13, 2009, 11:02:59 PM
Richardson remains Richmond's best player. At 34.

Thats the scariest thing about our Football Club.
Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: mat073 on April 13, 2009, 11:41:20 PM
Richardson remains Richmond's best player. At 34.

Thats the scariest thing about our Football Club.


I agree 100%



Edited to correct quote
Title: Richmond coach Terry Wallace rejects sack talk - HUN
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 13, 2009, 11:53:16 PM
Richmond coach Terry Wallace rejects sack talk

Michael Horan | April 14, 2009 12:00am

TERRY Wallace refused to concede there is any extra pressure on himself or his team as it steels for the bottom-of-the-ladder battle against Melbourne.

Winless after three rounds on the back of a 47-point loss to the Western Bulldogs, there is speculation the Richmond coach's tenure could come to an abrupt end if the Tigers falter next week.

A club-record membership of 34,903 - built on the hype and hope of Ben Cousins' recruitment - is rapidly sliding into despair as Richmond finds itself last on the ladder.

President Gary March would not comment on the coach's security or future, and Wallace denied there was any extra pressure on the him or the team to win.

"In all honesty I don't think so at all. What you've got to do is just stay true to yourselves and get on with what's coming up over the next couple of weeks," Wallace said.

"Some might have picked us in Round 1 (v Carlton), don't think any would have in Round 2 or 3. We've played two of three undefeated sides - we're not at that level, we weren't at that level last year.
"That's the reality of where it's at.

"Clearly we need to do the next few weeks right."

But Wallace, in the fifth and final year of his contract, conceded Richmond lacked the skill to match the top sides.

"At the moment we're not showing that. . . We've got guys we've brought into the team that have turned the ball over at critical times of matches," he said.

"They have a go - that's a very tough thing as a coach - it's very difficult to come back into the changerooms when you know guys are having an absolute red hot crack for you, but their skill level is not up to it."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25330476-19742,00.html
Title: Re: Richmond coach Terry Wallace rejects sack talk - HUN
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 13, 2009, 11:57:25 PM
Richmond coach Terry Wallace rejects sack talk

Michael Horan | April 14, 2009 12:00am

TERRY Wallace refused to concede there is any extra pressure on himself or his team as it steels for the bottom-of-the-ladder battle against Melbourne.

Winless after three rounds on the back of a 47-point loss to the Western Bulldogs, there is speculation the Richmond coach's tenure could come to an abrupt end if the Tigers falter next week.

A club-record membership of 34,903 - built on the hype and hope of Ben Cousins' recruitment - is rapidly sliding into despair as Richmond finds itself last on the ladder.

President Gary March would not comment on the coach's security or future, and Wallace denied there was any extra pressure on the him or the team to win.

"In all honesty I don't think so at all. What you've got to do is just stay true to yourselves and get on with what's coming up over the next couple of weeks," Wallace said.

"Some might have picked us in Round 1 (v Carlton), don't think any would have in Round 2 or 3. We've played two of three undefeated sides - we're not at that level, we weren't at that level last year.
"That's the reality of where it's at.

"Clearly we need to do the next few weeks right."

But Wallace, in the fifth and final year of his contract, conceded Richmond lacked the skill to match the top sides.

"At the moment we're not showing that. . . We've got guys we've brought into the team that have turned the ball over at critical times of matches," he said.

"They have a go - that's a very tough thing as a coach - it's very difficult to come back into the changerooms when you know guys are having an absolute red hot crack for you, but their skill level is not up to it."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25330476-19742,00.html


gee i hope we sack this fool.

cant believe he says stuff like "having a real hot go"

you have got to be joking and i cant believes he talks about the lack of skill!!

who recruited most of them you fool?? you did
Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: TigerTime on April 14, 2009, 08:25:43 AM
what would everyone be saying if we win the next 10 straight?
Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: Beren on April 14, 2009, 12:30:55 PM
Disgraceful headline. ::)
No matter what the circumstances of yesterday's game/our coaching situation.
Thank goodness I don't buy that awful rag.
Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: WilliamPowell on April 14, 2009, 01:26:18 PM
what would everyone be saying if we win the next 10 straight?

We should have sacked him weeks ago when we had the chance  ;D

Disgraceful headline. ::)

Have to agree but not surprising

No doubt Mike's even more bitter than normal because he did pick us for the 8 this year ::) :P :wallywink
Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: Chuck17 on April 14, 2009, 01:27:25 PM
what would everyone be saying if we win the next 10 straight?

Well not much because half the posters here wouldn't be seen for quids if that was the case.
Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: bojangles17 on April 14, 2009, 01:33:25 PM
bloody tasteless headline...and too think the afl named a building in this prix honour, what next :wallywink
Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: big tone on April 14, 2009, 01:43:41 PM
what would everyone be saying if we win the next 10 straight?

Well not much because half the posters here wouldn't be seen for quids if that was the case.
Chuck... Chuck... Chuck!....
We have won two quarters out of twelve this year so i think winning the next ten is somewhat out of the question.
Do you think the 'posters here' are getting a kick out of our insipid proformances.
Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: Francois Jackson on April 14, 2009, 01:51:26 PM
what would everyone be saying if we win the next 10 straight?

Well not much because half the posters here wouldn't be seen for quids if that was the case.
Chuck... Chuck... Chuck!....
We have won two quarters out of twelve this year so i think winning the next ten is somewhat out of the question.
Do you think the 'posters here' are getting a kick out of our insipid proformances.

Thats the sad thing about these idiots on here, they think we are ooh so happy we are going to miss finals again.

yep so happy about the mess we find ourselves in.

Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: Chuck17 on April 14, 2009, 01:58:45 PM
Chuck... Chuck... Chuck!....
We have won two quarters out of twelve this year so i think winning the next ten is somewhat out of the question.
Do you think the 'posters here' are getting a kick out of our insipid proformances.

I didn't give any sort of indication that I believed it would happen, all I said was if it did (and once again I am not giving a statement on the probability, or lack of it  ;D) that half the chickenshit posters would be under rocks hiding.

And yes I think some posters are using where we find ourselves on the ladder to push their own agenda.
Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: Beren on April 14, 2009, 02:01:20 PM


Thats the sad thing about these idiots on here, they think we are ooh so happy we are going to miss finals again.

yep so happy about the mess we find ourselves in.

Not needed.
Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: big tone on April 14, 2009, 02:14:08 PM
Chuck... Chuck... Chuck!....
We have won two quarters out of twelve this year so i think winning the next ten is somewhat out of the question.
Do you think the 'posters here' are getting a kick out of our insipid proformances.

I didn't give any sort of indication that I believed it would happen, all I said was if it did (and once again I am not giving a statement on the probability, or lack of it  ;D) that half the chickenpoo posters would be under rocks hiding.

And yes I think some posters are using where we find ourselves on the ladder to push their own agenda.
I can only speak for myself Chuck but all i want is to walk away from a game with a smile on my face. To sing our song and be excited about who we play the next week, because we could beat anyone we come up against, whether it be a top side or a bottom side, and that my friend i have not felt for as long as i can remeber. What about you?
So if a few people seem a little jaded maybe they are!!
No aganda, just to want my team to sucseed.
It's no secret i think TW is useless and thats ok
Title: Re: Dead Man Walking - Sheahan
Post by: Chuck17 on April 14, 2009, 02:27:20 PM
Big Tone,

IIRC you were about the only poster who was expressing your view of our list during pre season at the max of of the hype.  As such I am pretty sure you have no agenda.

It is some of the others that obviously have agendas that have kidnapped my second best goat,  the RFC has my best one ATM

Title: Terry Wallace is gone, the only question is when: Sheahan (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on April 20, 2009, 06:16:03 AM
Terry Wallace is gone, the only question is when
Mike Sheahan | April 20, 2009

IT WAS the worst imaginable result for Terry Wallace's Richmond: a fast-finishing eight-point loss.

In a game they just had to win, the Tigers ran out of time after trailing Melbourne by 38 points midway through the third quarter. They might even have pinched the win but for sloppy conversion in the last quarter, but what's new?

One team that didn't deserve to win almost stole the points from a team that had forgotten how to win.

So, where does that leave things at Punt Rd?

The Tigers are 0-4 and out of finals contention. The coach is in his fifth and, just as certainly, last season at the club.

The question now is: Does he get to complete the season?

The answer isn't known. The probability is he will remain in the job unless he chooses to walk away.

If the Tigers were to lose against North Melbourne and Sydney (SCG) in the next two rounds, he might decide he no longer can help this group.

But first things first. Good luck to Melbourne.

It was the Demons' first win of the season and their fourth in 26 games under Dean Bailey's coaching.

They got stagefright in the second half, but held on in a performance that will do wonders for the club's spirit.

It was a win achieved without the class and experience of Brad Green, injured in the first quarter after eight disposals.

The Demons will be itching to get a crack at Adelaide at the MCG on Sunday. Suddenly, the season has a level of excitement.

Not so at Richmond, for all is lost. What makes the loss even worse is the fact Matthew Richardson and Joel Bowden were high among the better performers.

Bowden had 44 possessions, Richo kicked 4.5 and took 15 marks.

Both seem to have been round the place since the club's last great era, yet, even in their 30s, the Bowdens and Richardsons who enjoyed success at Punt Rd were their fathers, Michael and Alan, in the late 1960s.

Without denigrating Melbourne, how does a team that started the season with finals aspirations concede six straight goals to the short-priced favourite for the wooden spoon? While many of us overrated the list, the group is capable of much better than we are seeing.

When the urgency of the situation hit home, Richmond responded with 4.7 in the final term.

Wallace looked a forlorn figure in the coach's box.

Despite all the money they are paid and all the attention we give them, the coach is at the mercy of his players come match day.

He simply had to hope things ended up OK, and they didn't.

Despite the late surge, it was always a big ask after falling so far behind.

The reality is Melbourne could have effectively ended the contest much earlier had it not been so wasteful in front of goal.

Brad Miller and Michael Newton were the main offenders, but you couldn't query Miller's endeavour, and he did kick three with three assists.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25356255-19771,00.html