One-Eyed Richmond Forum
Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: pmac21 on April 21, 2009, 07:36:01 PM
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Just looking at the draw, I would say we are a chance in all games. We play Nth, Swans, Brissy, Power, Freo, Bombers.
What would happen if we won 6 in a row ???
Big game this week I reckon, call me an optimist but dont think we are dead just yet. Plenty of teams have lost 4 games in a row during the year. It is just magnified as it so early !!
C'mon Tigers.....Lift
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3 interstate trips in there - very much looking forward to them
Flights booked, car hired, tickets booked - let's go :thumbsup
:gotigers
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3 interstate trips in there - very much looking forward to them
Flights booked, car hired, tickets booked - let's go :thumbsup
:gotigers
as usual i have booked in both the swans and port games. I love to see us chip sideways, and watch matchups like Goodes/Hyde.
ill see you at the bar WP, although judging by some of your comments of late i doubt your the best company to keep at west lakes.
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ill see you at the bar WP, although judging by some of your comments of late i doubt your the best company to keep at west lakes.
Just look for the hat daniel and remember that despite our differences at AAMI they automatically disappear and we stand together as 1 :thumbsup
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Just looking at the draw, I would say we are a chance in all games. We play Nth, Swans, Brissy, Power, Freo, Bombers.
What would happen if we won 6 in a row ???
Big game this week I reckon, call me an optimist but dont think we are dead just yet. Plenty of teams have lost 4 games in a row during the year. It is just magnified as it so early !!
C'mon Tigers.....Lift
the nest 4 weeks willl decide terrys fate
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Great to see some optomism....if we could win 4 of the next 6-we would be in a better position than we were at the same last year.
Who Knows how many victories it will take to make the 8 this year.It might be one of those years where 11 wins is enough.
You can never have enough optomism.....It helps you sleep at night.
Dont like our chances against Sydney though.....They own us like Richard Hadlee owned Dean Jones
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Optimistically (yet conceivably) Richmond could be 4-6 after 10 rounds with a down hill run into finals.
LOL :o
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We won't win any with the current game plan.
March did say that the game plan was terrible, hopefully Terry goes back to a basic man on man style.
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We won't win any with the current game plan.
March did say that the game plan was terrible, hopefully Terry goes back to a basic man on man style.
its too late for terry
the horse has bolted
terry has failed us bigtime
his game plan should have been overhauled 3 years ago
why should terry changes his ways just cos he is in crisis and trying to save his bronzed arse, too late im afraid .
imo everyone is saying the board did the right thing last night and showed stregnth.
they are wrong, the board showed they are week by keeping terry on even if it is for the next few weeks. the board should not care if journos and past players say u should not sack coaches mid season.
the board and terrry are both just going with the flow
not good enough
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Either decision has positives and negatives.
Sacking Terry mid season puts doubt in prospective coaches minds that the employment security is shacky at Richmond. Knowing that the next coach wont be winning a premiership in the first year honoring contracts is very important. Also what can be achieved from sacking Wallace and have a care taker take over for the rest of the season. It's never worked, unless they had 2010 coach ready and waiting no point of doing it until that happens.
The problem is the 5 year deal crap that Casey served up to Wallace, Brown and Simmonds. All have come back to bite us. Nothing over 3 years should ever be signed.
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Flights booked, car hired, tickets booked
You forgot to book the therapy... ;)
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We won't win any with the current game plan.
March did say that the game plan was terrible, hopefully Terry goes back to a basic man on man style.
its too late for terry
the horse has bolted
terry has failed us bigtime
his game plan should have been overhauled 3 years ago
I'm not for Terry staying on, but I want to be able to watch a Richmond game and not cringe everytime we have the ball.
I want to have something worthwhile to watch and maybe even see a win!
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The problem is the 5 year deal crap that Casey served up to Wallace, Brown and Simmonds. All have come back to bite us. Nothing over 3 years should ever be signed.
Brown received a 3 year contract and was recontracted for 2 more on a vastly reduced salary during the recovery from his injury
Simmonds' 5 years has hardly come back to bite us, he was very good last year including selection for Victoria in the All Stars match so he would have always been recontracted for 2009 regardless. His 5 year deal was VERY VERY cheap and was a big win for the club.
Wallace's 5 years is still up for debate, I guess after all is said and done it will be seen as a failure, however given the lack of resources at the club when he was hired and the financial restraints we've had, it's not all his fault.
So a possible 1 out of 3 for you, that's worse than Terry's win/loss ratio at Richmond
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First time poster so please be gentle :)
For mine its not the length of the contract per se, its that they aren't performance based. Whether that be for coaches, officials or players. It's seems to be too easy for these key people to 'sit in' these contracts with seemingly little or no accountability for an outcome. As a supporter, it would be very interesting to know how (if at all) marquee players, coaches and or officials are measured and what consequence clauses (if any) exist?
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First time poster so please be gentle :)
Hi MattR welcome to OER :thumbsup.
You may have to learn to ignore the comments of a few posters who live in a parallel universe on here, if they make personal comments they should probably be taken that way but ignoring them is usually the best recourse.
Interesting question you ask and one I dont know but wouldn't mind knowing the answer to.
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Thanks Chuck17 :cheers
We do know that they collect very detailed stats on each player and have benchmarks for performance - I wonder how much 'extra' endeavour there would be if selection and remuneration were at least in part, linked to meeting or exceeding these over time?
Perhaps one of our posters who regularly meet with club staff could enlighten us?
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The problem is the 5 year deal crap that Casey served up to Wallace, Brown and Simmonds. All have come back to bite us. Nothing over 3 years should ever be signed.
Brown received a 3 year contract and was recontracted for 2 more on a vastly reduced salary during the recovery from his injury
Simmonds' 5 years has hardly come back to bite us, he was very good last year including selection for Victoria in the All Stars match so he would have always been recontracted for 2009 regardless. His 5 year deal was VERY VERY cheap and was a big win for the club.
Wallace's 5 years is still up for debate, I guess after all is said and done it will be seen as a failure, however given the lack of resources at the club when he was hired and the financial restraints we've had, it's not all his fault.
So a possible 1 out of 3 for you, that's worse than Terry's win/loss ratio at Richmond
5 year deals is business suicide.
Browns technically wasn't a 5 year deal so fine.
5 year deal for a coach is laughable. Wallace would have been under pressure at the end of 07 after 3 years and no finals, he would have been under pressure at the end of last year only to be saved with the wet sail of the teams good finish.
Simmonds hasn't worked out, the cash he was on for the 5 year deal was huge. He's missed chunks of it through injury and played 1 full good season. That's football, he can't help that. From a business point of view the 5 year deal was wrong, we would have given him an extension for far less than what he is earning now.
And to say Brown has taken a pay cut, is hardly a pay cut when it's from 800k to 700k a year.
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First time poster so please be gentle :)
For mine its not the length of the contract per se, its that they aren't performance based. Whether that be for coaches, officials or players. It's seems to be too easy for these key people to 'sit in' these contracts with seemingly little or no accountability for an outcome. As a supporter, it would be very interesting to know how (if at all) marquee players, coaches and or officials are measured and what consequence clauses (if any) exist?
If you keep adding sensible suggestions to the debate then you will in trouble. :lol
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Welcome to the aslylum.
:help
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The problem is the 5 year deal crap that Casey served up to Wallace, Brown and Simmonds. All have come back to bite us. Nothing over 3 years should ever be signed.
Brown received a 3 year contract and was recontracted for 2 more on a vastly reduced salary during the recovery from his injury
Simmonds' 5 years has hardly come back to bite us, he was very good last year including selection for Victoria in the All Stars match so he would have always been recontracted for 2009 regardless. His 5 year deal was VERY VERY cheap and was a big win for the club.
Wallace's 5 years is still up for debate, I guess after all is said and done it will be seen as a failure, however given the lack of resources at the club when he was hired and the financial restraints we've had, it's not all his fault.
So a possible 1 out of 3 for you, that's worse than Terry's win/loss ratio at Richmond
5 year deals is business suicide.
Browns technically wasn't a 5 year deal so fine.
5 year deal for a coach is laughable. Wallace would have been under pressure at the end of 07 after 3 years and no finals, he would have been under pressure at the end of last year only to be saved with the wet sail of the teams good finish.
Simmonds hasn't worked out, the cash he was on for the 5 year deal was huge. He's missed chunks of it through injury and played 1 full good season. That's football, he can't help that. From a business point of view the 5 year deal was wrong, we would have given him an extension for far less than what he is earning now.
And to say Brown has taken a pay cut, is hardly a pay cut when it's from 800k to 700k a year.
Simmonds signed for $1.2 million for 5 years, that's $240,000 per year. Do you have any idea how cheap that is for a ruckman? The average AFL wage is around $280k per year, so he's well under that. If we had to resign him again after his first 3 years, he'd be looking at around $500k per season. We effectively got 5 years out of him for 3 years salary. Hell, we were paying Ottens around $650k per year, it saved us a fortune.
Brown resigned for around $300-400k per season, not $700k, he wasn't worth that much after his injury.
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Flights booked, car hired, tickets booked
You forgot to book the therapy... ;)
booked in for that too once I'm home :thumbsup ;D