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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on April 28, 2009, 09:46:09 PM
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Why is Jacko being accused of a "chicken wing" tackle like the ones in the NRL? ??? Sure Harvey's other arm was pinned but that's what you want to do in a tackle and in any case Harvey injured his free arm when trying to break his fall in the tackle. It seems some in the media and at North (check out BF) are trying to portray Jacko as deliberately going out to injure Harvey.
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Yeah, it should be a rooster wing tackle seeing it's North.
The chicken wing tackle seems to be on the media agenda and they've jumped on this because Harvey got injured in a tackle. I thought the danger was not being able use your arm(s) to protect your head being driven into the ground, which wasn't the case with Jackson's tackle.
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Why is Jacko being accused of a "chicken wing" tackle like the ones in the NRL? ??? Sure Harvey's other arm was pinned but that's what you want to do in a tackle and in any case Harvey injured his free arm when trying to break his fall in the tackle. It seems some in the media and at North (check out BF) are trying to portray Jacko as deliberately going out to injure Harvey.
Heard it on 3AW with DEEEERRRWAYYYNE and Heeeeeeeeals and while they vaguely said at the end they were not trying accuse Jackson of anything the previous 10 minutes was completely different.
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AFL may pluck out 'wing' tackle after Brent Harvey injury
Jon Ralph | April 28, 2009 10:15pm
THE AFL will keep a vigilant watch on the "chicken-wing" tackle that left North captain Brent Harvey's season in tatters on Saturday.
Harvey could miss up to 12 weeks after his right arm was grabbed by Richmond tagger Daniel Jackson in a tackle, preventing the Roo from bracing his fall.
The Kangaroos captain dislocated his left elbow.
The NRL has worked hard to stamp out the chicken-wing tackle.
League players have become expert in ripping their opponent's arms back, sometimes dislocating joints and ripping pectoral muscles.
Hawthorn forward Cyril Rioli is one of several AFL players who are skilled at seizing their opponent's arm to prevent them from disposing of the ball properly.
AFL football operations manager Adrian Anderson said last night he had scrutinised Jackson's tackle on Harvey and saw nothing wrong with the technique.
"I have had a look at it, and in itself it didn't seem to be a major issue with that tackle, but we will continue to closely monitor any trends developing with tackling techniques," he said.
"Clubs and players have taken tackling to new heights in recent seasons and we will be keeping a close eye on the way that it develops."
Harvey insisted yesterday he had no ill-feelings towards Jackson, but said the rugby league tackle technique needed to be looked at.
Geelong's Jimmy Bartel and Essendon's David Myers also appeared to be victims of the chicken-wing tackle on the weekend, but both escaped unscathed.
"I think it's pretty dangerous if you pin one arm. You're going to hit your head and get concussed or you're going to break an arm," Harvey told Channel 10.
"If people are going out to certainly do that, we probably need to look at it."
Harvey remains determined to defy medical opinion and return in about eight weeks.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25402009-19742,00.html
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So Adrian now seems to be working on restricting tackles.
First the 9 pointer in the NAB Cup
Then restricting the bump
Now talking about restricting tackles
How about a switch to a round ball and a stop off in Ireland as we make our progression to the NBL?
Too many rule changes for my liking!
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Had a discussion with a NRL follower last night and they said it wasnt a chicken wing tackle as a chicken wing involves actually taking the arm away from the body and lifting it - like when you are trying break a chicken "wish bone"
have to say if you look at the tape, Jacko releases Harvey's arm as it comes away from his body
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Harvey could miss up to 12 weeks after his right arm was grabbed by Richmond tagger Daniel Jackson in a tackle, preventing the Roo from bracing his fall.
Incorrect. The problem was that he did try to brace his fall with his left arm but it slipped forward and the tackle rolled awkwardly.
The hurt his left arm, not right.
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Why is Jacko being accused of a chicken wing tackle?
Because the morons in the press and media have to MAKE UP SENSATIONAL stories to please their RATINGS HUNGRY EDITORS.
Higher ratings means more marketing power to suck in advertisers.
More advertisers equals higher profits and shareprices and a higher salary for the editor.
Did anyone notice that I didn't mention readers, viewers or footy fans? We don't count in the MEDIA EQUATION.
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its all bs, and its all harveys fault for trying to break his fall by landing on his arm, he should know better and its all about not accepting responsibilty and passing the blame on someone elso, in this case , jacko
softies
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Players are taught to pin an arm so they can win a soft free by restricting the player from disposing of the ball correctly.
The umpire usually misses this and pays soft frees more against teams like us and in favour of the stronger team/players (Perceived).
ie We get pinged! wheras the abletts judds of the world can do 720 degree spins drop the ball and play on is called.
If the AFL don't like it maybe they should turn the focus on the untouchables 'umpires' and make them accountable for their decisions. Dont start me on these girly little efrs should be seen not heard, Kennet I am on with this one.
Anyway like others are saying why not just get a round ball put hankys in the back of players shorts make the ground rectangle and then all the little sooks can be happy. f me :banghead
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Broken Jaw one week, popped elbow the next - Lets line up a third against the swans and maybe just maybe we are getting a bit of mongrel back into the Richmond team.
I dont wish harm on anyone but it is certainly a positive as far as I am concerned we are the one's dishing it out.
Accidents or not we are obvioulsy the aggressors in these situations :clapping :thumbsup :bow
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Chicken wing tackle a paltry issue: Gieschen
afl.com.au
By Jason Phelan and Ben Broad 1:53 PM Fri 01 May, 2009
THE CHICKEN wing tackle has received plenty of exposure in light of the injury to Kangaroos' skipper Brent Harvey, but AFL umpires manager Jeff Gieschen is confident the practice isn't about to become commonplace.
Harvey will miss up to three months after dislocating his elbow in such a tackle on Saturday against Richmond, but Gieschen maintains the incident involving Daniel Jackson was an unfortunate accident.
"We haven't seen a trend to say that chicken wing tackling is coming into AFL football," Gieschen said of the practice that sees the tackler take his opponent to the ground with one arm pinned.
"What we see in AFL football these days from all players is a real desperation to tackle and sometimes that means they'll stretch and lunge with one hand or grab a player by the arm or by the shorts or what have you.
"I think coincidentally this week we saw a couple of tackles that people try and draw a bow with that they might be similar to chicken wing tackles in rugby [league], but we certainly haven't seen a trend in that area.
"If anything did crop up and we saw things happening that were bit unusual then we'd certainly look at that because our philosophy is to protect the ball player at all times and make sure the safety of the players is paramount.
“[But] we haven't seen any trend or anything at this stage to alarm us."
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/76042/default.aspx
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The Giesch to the rescue! ;D
Spot on, nothing in it. :thumbsup
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Why are they STILL calling it a chicken wing tackle?
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I chuckled at the article title's play on words about poultry.