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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerTime on May 05, 2009, 10:33:28 AM
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richo surely will go on the LTIL, so will will elevate a rookie? and who?
do you think its time to have a real good look at gourdis
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No need to rush into a decision.
Browne went back on the rookie list because Petts is playing again, but at the moment ruck isn't a problem.
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richo surely will go on the LTIL, so will will elevate a rookie? and who?
do you think its time to have a real good look at gourdis
That's a great point. I think it would be in the best interests of the whole club if we replaced the big feller with a real raw talent and who knows.
Vickory, Post, Putt, Gourdis
In my opinion all should be given a debut and an extra game before a return of a Pettifer, Hughes etc.
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vickery post and putt are all on our list and have time , but gourdis is a rookie, and i reckon we should have a real look at him, we all know he is fast and athletic but a sus kick, but maybe we should see what he can do on the big stage
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vickery post and putt are all on our list and have time , but gourdis is a rookie, and i reckon we should have a real look at him, we all know he is fast and athletic but a sus kick, but maybe we should see what he can do on the big stage
TT is it just me but replacing Richo with Goudis who has as you say a sus kick, does not sound verry comforting.
:gobdrop I doubt that we have got any skills coaches down at Richmond so how to they fix this??
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it wont hurt to see what he can offer, richo cant kick, but has kicked 800 goals, buddy cant kick but is a match winner
it wont hurt to just try and you never know , strange things can happen in footy
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Good point. Fingers crossed, it is time for someone to step up and get there chance weather it is Vickery, Post, Putt or Goudis, who ever its is hope they play well and get given plenty of chances this year ahead of the older guys.
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Richmond won't elevate Gourdis unless 1) he is killing them in the 2nds (which he isn't) or 2) every other forward option gets injuried or drops well behind him in form. So the probability is fairly remote. Just costs the club too much money especially if they are not going to play the rookie.
You would have noticed when BrownE was elevated he was played immediately. I still think there is enough players out of the team on the list, specially forwards, who will be used well before going through the expensive process of elevating a rookie who is struggling with form himself.
Stripes
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Browne should be elevated immediately and ruck in tandem with Graham with Pattison as permanent forward for the rest of the season.
Got to play all kids now and get them games ready for 2010. Cant believe I an saying this.
As for the over 30's Cousins is the only one I would keep as long as he doesnt do a hammy for the rest of the season.
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sounds good pmac. was standing nearby when Browne came off into the crowd on Saturday at Coburg. He is a monster.
Only other rookie option may be Silvester but with Thursfield about we seem to have enough depth in defence.
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Only other rookie option may be Silvester but with Thursfield about we seem to have enough depth in defence.
thursfiled isn't playing good footy and based on last weekend along way off a recall
Silvestor is valid option IMHO :thumbsup
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Richmond won't elevate Gourdis unless 1) he is killing them in the 2nds (which he isn't) or 2) every other forward option gets injuried or drops well behind him in form. So the probability is fairly remote. Just costs the club too much money especially if they are not going to play the rookie.
You would have noticed when BrownE was elevated he was played immediately. I still think there is enough players out of the team on the list, specially forwards, who will be used well before going through the expensive process of elevating a rookie who is struggling with form himself.
Stripes
agreed...only if he begins to dominate at the burgers will we see him leapfrog the likes of Post and Vickery...TBH from what ive seen of Vickery he's a bloody long way off...im thinking the chances are more likely to be split bw Hughes and sarge
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Browne and Silvester would be the two in line but we don't have a need in the ruck and backline so I'd reckon we'll save the money and keep things as is.
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Richmond won't elevate Gourdis unless 1) he is killing them in the 2nds (which he isn't) or 2) every other forward option gets injuried or drops well behind him in form. So the probability is fairly remote. Just costs the club too much money especially if they are not going to play the rookie.
You would have noticed when BrownE was elevated he was played immediately. I still think there is enough players out of the team on the list, specially forwards, who will be used well before going through the expensive process of elevating a rookie who is struggling with form himself.
Stripes
Gourdis was a PSD pick so would still be on full draft pay till the end of this year, so no expense should come into it, played well rd2 Coburg 1's 2 goals 3 or 4 assists got to the ball first a lot inside 50 and used it well, the kicking thing is a bit of a myth, does bring somthing different to a forward line, very competative when the ball hits the ground, not ready for AFL but could exite if given a chance
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Richmond won't elevate Gourdis unless 1) he is killing them in the 2nds (which he isn't) or 2) every other forward option gets injuried or drops well behind him in form. So the probability is fairly remote. Just costs the club too much money especially if they are not going to play the rookie.
You would have noticed when BrownE was elevated he was played immediately. I still think there is enough players out of the team on the list, specially forwards, who will be used well before going through the expensive process of elevating a rookie who is struggling with form himself.
Stripes
Gourdis was a PSD pick so would still be on full draft pay till the end of this year, so no expense should come into it, played well rd2 Coburg 1's 2 goals 3 or 4 assists got to the ball first a lot inside 50 and used it well, the kicking thing is a bit of a myth, does bring somthing different to a forward line, very competative when the ball hits the ground, not ready for AFL but could exite if given a chance
wrong
gourdis was delisted and picked up again as a rookie
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Why did the club delist Gourdis?
I can only assume cause he is not very good.
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Why did the club delist Gourdis?
I can only assume cause he is not very good.
from what i am aware of due to issues he has
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not being able to kick a football is an issue for a footballer
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not being able to kick a football is an issue for a footballer
amongst other things
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No...... pretty sure if you delist a player you payout his contract, if you then rookie him he dose'nt go on rookie pay as well as paying him out, he stays on the same wage, we rookied Collard last year when he had 1 year on his contract with Freo they paid him the difference between rookie and full pay. Gourdis's delisting was always a draft stategy to free up an extra ND pick, he spent last year in the Coburg 2s at the wrong end of the ground and was the senior listed player most under the radar to be selected by another club, was always staying at the Richmond. That extra pick didnt get used in the ND when Bisbane took McCulloch the pick before us instead that pick became PSD pic 6 Ben Cousins win/win
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No...... pretty sure if you delist a player you payout his contract, if you then rookie him he dose'nt go on rookie pay as well as paying him out, he stays on the same wage, we rookied Collard last year when he had 1 year on his contract with Freo they paid him the difference between rookie and full pay. Gourdis's delisting was always a draft stategy to free up an extra ND pick, he spent last year in the Coburg 2s at the wrong end of the ground and was the senior listed player most under the radar to be selected by another club, was always staying at the Richmond. That extra pick didnt get used in the ND when Bisbane took McCulloch the pick before us instead that pick became PSD pic 6 Ben Cousins win/win
correct,
gourdis was guaranteed 2 yrs senior pay, regardless of being delisted and taken as a rookie
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fairies muff
i stand corrected
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well if it costs nothing to elevate him and we need a fwd then surely shirley it's an easy decision to make, as long as he's not taking a spot from someone you really should be elevating.
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My 2 bob worth....
A player taken in the ND is given a 2 year contract and special permission is required to cut that player after 1 year...ala Carl Peterson. Players Association was involved etc...
A player taken in the PSD can nominate his terms or can be signed up on a 1 year contract. I believe that Gourdis had a 1 year deal and was then delisted to free up a spot on the list. The spot "reserved" in last year's pre-season draft was earmarked for Nahas and not Gourdis, but was ultimately taken by Cousins who I believe is only on a 1 year deal with us.
Does that help?
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Richo has been placed on the LTIL according to the RFC site. No mention of any rookie being promoted in his place.
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Richo has been placed on the LTIL according to the RFC site. No mention of any rookie being promoted in his place.
Browne, I hope but Silvester probably deserves an elevation more than any of the remaining rookies based on form. Has anyone seen Gilligan (sp?) play of late?
Stripes
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I saw him a couple of weeks ago in Coburg reserves. He is very small so maybe the only way he would be considered for elevation at this stage is if Nahas gets a long term injury.
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Silvester is in his last rookie year, will have to be promoted or delisted end 2009, been the top defender in the VFL past 2 years should be given a chance especially with Rance out, Moore injured and Thursty down on form
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Silvester is in his last rookie year, will have to be promoted or delisted end 2009, been the top defender in the VFL past 2 years should be given a chance especially with Rance out, Moore injured and Thursty down on form
Agree, we don't need a ruck and Gilligan is not up to it yet.