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Title: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: one-eyed on May 09, 2009, 07:40:22 PM
Fire away  :-\
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: TigerTime on May 09, 2009, 07:46:22 PM
out wallace
in who gives a poo, anyone would be better



out foley schulz riewoldt and rance(inj)
in  cotchin patto morton and mcmahon( we really missed his run out of defence today)
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: WA Tiger on May 09, 2009, 07:48:40 PM
Edwards (not an AFL player), JON, Schulz, Rance ( :() and maybe Collins (turnovers) out.
Brown, Patto, Cotchin, Thursfield & Thompson or Hislop in.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: wayne on May 09, 2009, 08:30:02 PM
Bowdens gotta go
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: TigerTime on May 09, 2009, 08:33:16 PM
Thursfield & Thompson or Hislop in.

lol  2 clanger kings and a defender who has lost all confidence
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Jackstar is back on May 09, 2009, 08:40:54 PM
Let me say this.
Jay Schulz should never ever wear a RFC jumper ever again.
he insulted the jumper today.
His effort in the 3rd Quarter on the southern stand wing where he waited for the ball to half volley to him , only to have Merrett run in front of him and take possesion was the worst effort of his seen in a long time..
I was a disgrace.

JON Pick 8, biggest waste of a pick since Richard Lounder.
I have never ever seen a football gain possesion( mark ) and have absolutely no idea of what do to next,
A DISGRACE

Reiwoldt. has got ahead of himself.
Edwards.   Not up to AFL.





Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 09, 2009, 08:42:45 PM
Out Rance inj  Schulz Edwards JON

In Vickery Morton Connors snd we all know Brown will get the recall who am I kidding.


Riewoldt should play the rest of the year Jack despite last weeks and this weeks lame efforts. Kid must play long term.
Agree on Schulz
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: rufio_1991 on May 09, 2009, 08:48:12 PM
OUTS

Jack Riewoldt - He's had 7 games for a return of 7 goals for a fairly big forward, just not good enough, not to mention he didnt even kick a goal today.

JON - He can take a good mark but it always ends up in the oppositions hands when he makes his next disposal.

Matthew White - Didnt do enough, trys to take on everyone and jsut gets caught.

Shane Edwards - To small, To skinny.

Jay Schulz - Crap.

Alex Rance - Injured.

INS

Adam Pattison
Nathan Brown
Kayne Pettifer
Trent Cotchin
Will Thursfield
Cleve Hughes


Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: 1965 on May 09, 2009, 08:52:10 PM
OUTS

Jack Riewoldt - He's had 7 games for a return of 7 goals for a fairly big forward, just not good enough, not to mention he didnt even kick a goal today.

JON - He can take a good mark but it always ends up in the oppositions hands when he makes his next disposal.

Matthew White - Didnt do enough, trys to take on everyone and jsut gets caught.

Shane Edwards - To small, To skinny.

Jay Schulz - Crap.

Alex Rance - Injured.

INS

Adam Pattison
Nathan Brown
Kayne Pettifer
Trent Cotchin
Will Thursfield
Cleve Hughes




Kayne Pettfer, you are joking?

 :help
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Jackstar is back on May 09, 2009, 08:53:45 PM
WALLACE OUT
enough is enough
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: rufio_1991 on May 09, 2009, 08:56:02 PM
OUTS

Jack Riewoldt - He's had 7 games for a return of 7 goals for a fairly big forward, just not good enough, not to mention he didnt even kick a goal today.

JON - He can take a good mark but it always ends up in the oppositions hands when he makes his next disposal.

Matthew White - Didnt do enough, trys to take on everyone and jsut gets caught.

Shane Edwards - To small, To skinny.

Jay Schulz - Crap.

Alex Rance - Injured.

INS

Adam Pattison
Nathan Brown
Kayne Pettifer
Trent Cotchin
Will Thursfield
Cleve Hughes




Kayne Pettfer, you are joking?

 :help

he couldnt do any worse that schulz? could he?
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on May 09, 2009, 09:01:03 PM
Actually Pettifer might not be bad.

Last hurrah in AFL. Good last dozen or so games could see him put up as a reasonable trade option for a draft pick. The season is shot anyway so if that brings about a chance for something for next year ie a laste round draft pick then it has served a positive purpose.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Jackstar is back on May 09, 2009, 09:02:59 PM
OUTS

Jack Riewoldt - He's had 7 games for a return of 7 goals for a fairly big forward, just not good enough, not to mention he didnt even kick a goal today.

JON - He can take a good mark but it always ends up in the oppositions hands when he makes his next disposal.

Matthew White - Didnt do enough, trys to take on everyone and jsut gets caught.

Shane Edwards - To small, To skinny.

Jay Schulz - Crap.

Alex Rance - Injured.

INS

Adam Pattison
Nathan Brown
Kayne Pettifer
Trent Cotchin
Will Thursfield
Cleve Hughes




Kayne Pettfer, you are joking?

 :help

he couldnt do any worse that schulz? could he?

I still cant beleive what I seen with Schulz today.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Infamy on May 09, 2009, 09:18:20 PM
Out - Rance (inj)
In - Cotchin

Schulz probably deserves to be dropped too although he was moved around a bit all game due to Moore going down and he's one of the few we have who can kick the ball. Not sure who we have to replace him though.

I'd like to drop Riewoldt, but not sure how we can as we'd have no forwards otherwise
I hope we play Simmonds at full forward for the whole game next week, he proved he can be a decent target

I'm really not sure this week, usually they're pretty clear cut. Problem is there's not many knocking the door down for selection to make it easier.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Jackstar is back on May 09, 2009, 09:21:21 PM
after what Schulz did on the outer wing in the 3rd quarter today, you couldnt possibly play him ever again.
The Auskick kids at half time attacked the ball better :banghead
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: gtig on May 09, 2009, 09:30:02 PM
out
bowden. forever.
edwards
shultz
riewoldt
moore - didn't see much from him today.
rance to return as captain in 2010

in
morton
mcmahon
???beyond that???
elevate silvester
hughes
is there any point bringing brown back in? if he was in form he might have got us over the line in sydney. but what is the point now?
JON has zero confidence. i think we should back him, leave him in.
what has polak been doing? any point giving him a game up front? it has all gone very quiet on the polak news lately.
cotchin is he ready yet? would be good to see him back.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: wayne on May 09, 2009, 09:31:50 PM
lol  2 clanger kings and a defender who has lost all confidence

To be honest, all our team are clanger kings, we need clanger kings that at least will have a go.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Infamy on May 09, 2009, 09:39:04 PM
moore - didn't see much from him today.
Did you actually watch the game?
Moore going off injured was the catalyst to Joel Bowden moving onto Jon Brown where he instantly turned the momentum Brisbane's way. You must be mental to want to drop him.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: gtig on May 09, 2009, 09:50:56 PM
moore - didn't see much from him today.
Did you actually watch the game?
yes but a fair bit with my head in my hands wondering why i bother
Quote
Moore going off injured was the catalyst to Joel Bowden moving onto Jon Brown where he instantly turned the momentum Brisbane's way. You must be mental to want to drop him.
..fair enough, i didn't see that. point taken.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: camboon on May 09, 2009, 09:57:34 PM
Patto should have played today, we just didn't have anyone to compete today and you just knew fropm the rebounded after the stacking our forward line we were in trouble.

I watched JON today and our forward just wouldn't lead for him, it was sad, they stood still and as Brisbane had stacked our small forward line it was like trying to thread a needle in a haystack. He had a real go I thought but was scared to make a blue. Voss played man on man when we had the ball and rebound football to a forward line that had some big guns. Why dont we play man on man.
A few times when Gus was resting up forward and created a contest we looked like kicking a goal.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Infamy on May 09, 2009, 10:37:15 PM
I watched JON today and our forward just wouldn't lead for him, it was sad, they stood still and as Brisbane had stacked our small forward line it was like trying to thread a needle in a haystack. He had a real go I thought but was scared to make a blue.
Yet from what I saw he was leading all day and always trying to create an option for his team mates
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Chuck17 on May 10, 2009, 02:34:15 PM
Apart from Cotch it doesn't really matter who comes in or who goes out.

Our list needs quality forwards and a qulaity midfielder.

All we have in the wings are players with disposal worse than the current teams or young kids not yet AFL players.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 10, 2009, 03:23:02 PM
Outs: Rance (inj sadly), Reiwoldt, Schulz, Bowden

Ins: Cotchin, Brown, Thompson, Hughes (not that he deserves it. Actually would consider Polak)

Reiwoldt - shocking. Didn't anyone else see that Luke Power mark? Have a close look at the tape. Jack took his eyes off the ball, looked at Power and then ended up not evening going for the mark, he just braced for being hit.... exceptionally disappointing

Schulz - I have defended him ad-nauseum for 3 years now. He lost me yesterday.

Bowden - racked up 30+ meaningless possessions and gifted the lions 2 goals in the 2nd that turned the game. I've had enough. He is a senior player that although he doesn't have an official title is deemed a leader by experience.... do I need to say more

JON & Edwards get one more chance...
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Jackstar is back on May 10, 2009, 08:20:25 PM
JON and Edwards get no more chances.
They must be cats, they have 9 lifes do they ???? :banghead
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 10, 2009, 08:52:37 PM
JON and Edwards get no more chances.
They must be cats, they have 9 lifes do they ???? :banghead

Jack - My theory is this

I want to see kids being given a proper go, not a week here , 2 or 3 games there. I want them to play for an extended period to see if they have got anything to offer.. everyone keeps telling the season is over, shot to bits so what difference is it really going to matter.

It's time to give as many blokes under the age of 22 a go to see whether they are worth keeping... simple really.

We've given some 5-6 years to show us something I think some of the younger ones (Edwards is only 20 and JON just turned 21) deserve to given a chance

Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Jackstar is back on May 10, 2009, 09:08:48 PM
My opinion is this.
Neither JON or Edwards has shown any impact worthy to be kept on the list. Edwards is too easily push off the ballance keeps falling over, not a good sign.
JON can get the ball but has 2 HUGE problems, one he doesnt know what to do with it, and when he does decide to kick, he cant. His kicking is poor.
JON was a first round pick, I cannot beleive why :banghead  On earth did we pick up him, his handball yesterday in the 3rd quarter that missed the target by metres was disgraceful, suburban footy stuff.

honestly enough is enough.

My theory is this ;)

You play all the players that havent played a game or played only a handfull.
eg. Putt, Browne,, Gilligan, Gouridis,Post and Vickery. play them if there ready or not, Matty Knights has  done it with his Eseendon young players

Throw in Connors and Thursfield and then asses from there.
Playing JON ,Schulz and Edwards is a complete waste of time
Likewise King  Pettifer, and Hughes.  dont get me started on Cleve either, a complete waste of time.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 10, 2009, 09:13:48 PM
Your theory is slightly shot because at the moment neither Browne, Gourdis or Gilligan are eligible to play as they are rookies and unless we put Richo on the long term injury list there aint no spot for any of them until atl east round 11 when we can start playing a rookie without a long term injury

I am actually happy to give all fo the ones you've listed a go (apart from Connors who needs to get his head right) but I want to see them there for longer than a week

And BTW if that was to happen what I dont' want to see is for everyone on this forum to bag them after one game like we have done with so many others over the years..



Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Jackstar is back on May 10, 2009, 09:16:49 PM
Richo, long term injury list.
What about N. Brown, long term injury list. actually he can go when Terry leaves.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: Jackstar is back on May 10, 2009, 09:21:58 PM
Your theory is slightly shot because at the moment neither Browne, Gourdis or Gilligan are eligible to play as they are rookies and unless we put Richo on the long term injury list there aint no spot for any of them until atl east round 11 when we can start playing a rookie without a long term injury

I am actually happy to give all fo the ones you've listed a go (apart from Connors who needs to get his head right) but I want to see them there for longer than a week

And BTW if that was to happen what I dont' want to see is for everyone on this forum to bag them after one game like we have done with so many others over the years..





I have no problem giving young players opportunites.
I was pushing for Angus last year.
If they are keen, they will show something.
I will bag players that  have been given the opportunity and found wanting , go back to Coburg kick a few goals , come back to Richmond, and dish out the same garbage they did before. Eg Schulz, Edwards. King., JON etc etc
Yep, Daniel Connors has one last chance,
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: WilliamPowell on May 10, 2009, 09:29:13 PM
This is where we are going to have to agree to disagree again but I don't think 12 games in 3 years is giving a player an real and proper opportunity.

12 games straight that's giving a bloke an opportunity or to put it another way look at Reiwoldt, his form IMHO has been lousy in the last month with the expection of the North game but he is still there that's what I call being given an opportunity
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: tigersalive on May 10, 2009, 11:13:24 PM
Thursty in.

 Apart from that.  Whatever.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: mat073 on May 11, 2009, 12:31:09 AM
Correct me if Im wrong .....but we have tried 33 players in the team this year-and its only round 7.

Cotchin comes in.

Out.....just draw a name out of a hat....It seems all we can do at the moment is replace apples with apples.
Title: Re: Changes for next week against Port?
Post by: torch on May 11, 2009, 01:29:17 AM
Out:

Edwards, Oakley-Nicholls, Riewoldt, Rance (inj), Tuck, Moore (inj)

In:

Cotchin, Morton, Brown, Raines, Hughes, Thursfield


Newman, Thursfield, Bowden

Raines, McGaune, Polo

Cousins, Coughlan, Cotchin

Tambling, Schulz, Deledio

Nahas, Hughes, Morton

Graham

Jackson

Foley

Simmonds, Brown, Collins, White