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Tigers set to sack Wallace
Caroline Wilson | May 12, 2009
RICHMOND has unofficially decided to axe Terry Wallace and is expected to tell the struggling coach by the end of May that the club will pay out his contract should he choose not to continue until the end of the season.
The Tigers are preparing a contingency plan that has development coach Craig McCrae coming into contention as a caretaker, along with assistants David King and Wayne Campbell. Even Coburg coach Jade Rawlings will be considered as a temporary replacement.
While Wallace will coach Richmond into round eight against Port Adelaide, last Saturday's loss to the Brisbane Lions proved the final straw for the club's administration, which is working to unveil a long-term strategy in the knowledge that Wallace will not be a part of it. It is understood that Wallace knows his final year has been financially guaranteed.
Wallace is under no illusions that his coaching career is nearing an end and could be finished by the end of the month although he refused to speculate last night as to whether he would complete his contract.
He told The Age: "I've no issue with the club. The club has been supportive as they can possibly be.
"It's business as usual here. We started our review at 7am. I understand the frustration and the speculation and I understand the disappointment — I was as disappointed as anyone on Saturday. That doesn't mean we're falling apart here."
McCrae has come into contention as a short-term caretaker due to his coaching experience with Queensland while Rawlings is understood to command significant respect from the players.
Campbell, the former Richmond captain, returned to the club as a potential future coach and while he and King would be prepared to step in should Wallace decide to depart mid-season, King remains favourite in the short-term with Campbell seen as requiring more experience. Wallace's long-time assistant Brian Royal is not being considered.
With the Tigers and Wallace expected to finalise terms in the coming weeks, the club continued to scoff at suggestions that Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse has already been approached to take over next season.
The search for a new coach will begin next month with the Richmond board expected to approve and unveil the next stage of its football department restructure in the knowledge that drastic changes to the list are required.
Although the Tigers and Wallace have not yet officially discussed his future there is genuine doubt that Wallace would insist on remaining at the club once the decision to sack him had been reached.
Wallace's predecessor Danny Frawley, who completed his contract after accepting the inevitable at round 13 in 2004, yesterday described coaching out the final nine weeks of his contract as "the toughest thing I've ever done emotionally".
Frawley had four weeks remaining in the home-and-away season when the Tigers appointed Wallace.
"I didn't think it would hurt as much as it did," said Frawley, now head of the AFL Coaches' Association. "I think it was the country boy in me that thought, 'A deal's a deal'. I don't regret it and I'm glad I saw it through, it was almost like a grieving process, but I was pretty flat by the end of each day. I certainly don't regret it but it's not for everyone."
If Saturday's loss, coming when the Tigers were in a winning position for the second successive week, proved to be one capitulation too many for the club, it also seemed to have convinced Wallace he no longer had any hope of gaining the belief of his players this season. He appeared unusually flat and bewildered post-match.
He seemed to have rallied by early yesterday but was uncharacteristically publicly angry when door-stopped by a television journalist and asked if he had lost the passion to coach.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/tigers-set-to-sack-wallace/2009/05/11/1241893918335.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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caros usually on the money
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Well if Wallace does go early by the club pushing him out it just goes to show that this club bow's to public pressure yet again and all the time. I would be very worried coming into this club as a coach, I would make sure my contract was so tight you could not poke a pin up it's arse!!
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If they had of bowed to public pressure, we would have had a new coach in round 2.
They've stuck it out longer than I thought they would. I definitely thought something would happen after we lost to Melbourne.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i would rather Wallace than any of those fools McCrae, Rawlings or King. Keeping Solrium will guarantee a bottom 2 finish.
They are part of the problem. Those fools have done NOTHING at our club but create misery so why should they get a chance to prove in Junk time of the season proper if they can coach.
McCrae as development coach..hahaha what a joke he wouldn't even know how to spell the word.. Still got little league running around with chicken arms and our players skill level has gone backwards since he come over.
We dont want them to come in and string a few wins together so people think things are going well then they get offered a contract.
No stuffin way.
Campbell as caretaker or no-one
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They have only stuck it out until now to save face.... well some face. If they sacked him after the Melbourne game the press would have cruicified the club and so would have Wallace. Now with the press behind the sacking and numerous Jurno's calling for his head it paves a smoother path for the sacking.
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I dont get caretaker coaches, unless they are told to go in and play kids for the future and secure draft picks I see no point.
Especially the names mentioned.
At the same time can see no point in wallace continuing either ???
Ohh well, I'll keep supporting and going and see what unfolds, no use stressing over things I can't control.
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Keep him on Until R16 and 17 ... that way we can continue to lose enough games to ensure we get the priority and we can save some cash.
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I hope the club administration is smart enough to know that this is our last chance at stocking up on talented youth and whoever coaches the team for the rest of the year needs to be instructed to 'play the kids' until they start to over perform and then you play weaker kids... ;)
We just can't afford to not be in a strong drafting position this year with all the older players being moved on and the 2010+ draft pillaged by the new teams.
Stripes
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I really do not believe Campbell should get the job, even as a caretaker, he has no experience in a successfull club and the Dogs are doing better since he left the coaching staff.... whats that telling you!! I would rather see David King in the role at least he knows what it takes to get into and win a GF.
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I really do not believe Campbell should get the job, even as a caretaker, he has no experience in a successfull club and the Dogs are doing better since he left the coaching staff.... whats that telling you!! I would rather see David King in the role at least he knows what it takes to get into and win a GF.
you dont know poo about Campbell or what he does down there. he was very tactical at the dogs & even Rocket Eade said that in a public interview.
Eade was one of the people who said to him to take the offer at Richmond not to get rid of him but as all assistants are advised to move around to learn every aspect of the game at any club.
some assistant coaches are good at certain roles but that dont mean they will ever coach a team otherwise Chris Bond & Odonnell would be super coaches by now
Campbell will not coach Richmond, he was brought there to learn coaching & to put in place a Richmond person in a role as all other coaches are outsiders, his just replacing outgoing assistants who are going out the door with Wallace. Was the same step with putting Free on the board to do some dirty work for weaker people at the club.
Who do you think asked to get Campbell down at the club. His picking his assistants for the takeover & you dont have to be a wizard to work that out
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Who do you think asked to get Campbell down at the club. His picking his assistants for the takeover & you dont have to be a wizard to work that out
In the immortal words of Pauline Hansen: "Please Explain"
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Keep him on Until R16 and 17 ... that way we can continue to lose enough games to ensure we get the priority and we can save some cash.
100% Correct
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I really do not believe Campbell should get the job, even as a caretaker, he has no experience in a successfull club and the Dogs are doing better since he left the coaching staff.... whats that telling you!! I would rather see David King in the role at least he knows what it takes to get into and win a GF.
you dont know poo about Campbell or what he does down there. he was very tactical at the dogs & even Rocket Eade said that in a public interview.
Eade was one of the people who said to him to take the offer at Richmond not to get rid of him but as all assistants are advised to move around to learn every aspect of the game at any club.
some assistant coaches are good at certain roles but that dont mean they will ever coach a team otherwise Chris Bond & Odonnell would be super coaches by now
Campbell will not coach Richmond, he was brought there to learn coaching & to put in place a Richmond person in a role as all other coaches are outsiders, his just replacing outgoing assistants who are going out the door with Wallace. Was the same step with putting Free on the board to do some dirty work for weaker people at the club.
Who do you think asked to get Campbell down at the club. His picking his assistants for the takeover & you dont have to be a wizard to work that out
I know he never played in a GF side and ditto to comment posted by 1965??????????????
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caros usually on the money
I'm not sure, she certainly seems to have close ties to the coterie groups who are always undermining the club by trying to push their own agenda. Give how little of what Jackstar has said has come through regarding changes to be made in the past 2-3 years, I wouldn't be betting my house on it any time soon.
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I know he never played in a GF side and ditto to comment posted by 1965??????????????
see once again you dont know what your talking about
Campbell has played football in quite a few premiership sides.
learn your facts before you start putting people down your just making a idiot out of yourself
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* Caro repeated tonight on 3aw that this week or the next will be Terry's last game. Contigency plans are in place which could even mean Cambo and King could take turns coaching the side for a month each for the remainder of the year. There's no financial concerns as Terry will be paid out for the full 5 years no matter what happens.
* Caro joked it'll mean no more Jay Schulz but if you wanted to tank then you'd play him lol.
* She's now gone off Malthouse. In any case the new coach will not be getting a 4-year deal as the Club has learnt that lesson so that rumour was a load of rubbish.
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I know he never played in a GF side and ditto to comment posted by 1965??????????????
see once again you dont know what your talking about
Campbell has played football in quite a few premiership sides.
learn your facts before you start putting people down your just making a idiot out of yourself
Listen stupid how did I put Campbell down..... you are the idiot. What AFL/VFL Grand Finals has Campbell played in compared to King?????????
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she due for a makeover ;D
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I know he never played in a GF side and ditto to comment posted by 1965??????????????
see once again you dont know what your talking about
Campbell has played football in quite a few premiership sides.
learn your facts before you start putting people down your just making a idiot out of yourself
Listen stupid how did I put Campbell down..... you are the idiot. What AFL/VFL Grand Finals has Campbell played in compared to King?????????
Is that honestly the only prerequisite...I think the game has eveolved from the 70s where a Norm smith medal assured anyone of the pick of coaching roles, circa 2009 the demands are far greater...Clarkson and now our very own Knighter never played in a GF and are taking all before them...Id hate nto think our view was so narrow that only GF winning canbdidates were shortlisted, the coaching graveyard is littered with well credentialed flops with premeirship medallions still hanging from their neck :shh
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I know he never played in a GF side and ditto to comment posted by 1965??????????????
see once again you dont know what your talking about
Campbell has played football in quite a few premiership sides.
learn your facts before you start putting people down your just making a idiot out of yourself
Listen stupid how did I put Campbell down..... you are the idiot. What AFL/VFL Grand Finals has Campbell played in compared to King?????????
you stated campbell has never played in a grand final well as l stated he has played in a few maybe not at VFL/AFL but he has in many premierships
information for you King wont be at the club next year. ;D
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I know he never played in a GF side and ditto to comment posted by 1965??????????????
see once again you dont know what your talking about
Campbell has played football in quite a few premiership sides.
learn your facts before you start putting people down your just making a idiot out of yourself
Listen stupid how did I put Campbell down..... you are the idiot. What AFL/VFL Grand Finals has Campbell played in compared to King?????????
you stated campbell has never played in a grand final well as l stated he has played in a few maybe not at VFL/AFL but he has in many premierships
information for you King wont be at the club next year. ;D
Actually they shouldn't just stop there (King) then, they should have a total clean out, Cambpell and the lot, I mean it is the entire coaching and playing group that got us into this mess so lets clean it all out just as Wallace did with the possum poo when he arrived.
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Funny lady is Caro, Terry best friend one minute, stick the knife in the next.
She is on the money ;)
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I know he never played in a GF side and ditto to comment posted by 1965??????????????
see once again you dont know what your talking about
Campbell has played football in quite a few premiership sides.
learn your facts before you start putting people down your just making a idiot out of yourself
Listen stupid how did I put Campbell down..... you are the idiot. What AFL/VFL Grand Finals has Campbell played in compared to King?????????
Is that honestly the only prerequisite...I think the game has eveolved from the 70s where a Norm smith medal assured anyone of the pick of coaching roles, circa 2009 the demands are far greater...Clarkson and now our very own Knighter never played in a GF and are taking all before them...Id hate nto think our view was so narrow that only GF winning canbdidates were shortlisted, the coaching graveyard is littered with well credentialed flops with premeirship medallions still hanging from their neck :shh
Clarkson has at least assistant coached an AFL premiership side before taking over as senior coach at a new side.
Knights hasn't won didley yet
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Terry should coach out the year. Let him stew in it.
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I hope the club administration is smart enough to know that this is our last chance at stocking up on talented youth and whoever coaches the team for the rest of the year needs to be instructed to 'play the kids' until they start to over perform and then you play weaker kids... ;)
We just can't afford to not be in a strong drafting position this year with all the older players being moved on and the 2010+ draft pillaged by the new teams.
Stripes
exactly stripes. we need for the club administrating to think this way and act accordingly. it's best for our future. lose as many as we can. play the kids.
that's why patrick smith's article today in the australian is so idiotic. he implored for wallace to stay with the job and said that 'he must squeeze out as mnay wins as he can as possible until the end of the season'
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Funny lady is Caro, Terry best friend one minute, stick the knife in the next.
She is on the money ;)
she still requires a makeover :)
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i would rather Wallace than any of those fools McCrae, Rawlings or King. Keeping Solrium will guarantee a bottom 2 finish.
They are part of the problem. Those fools have done NOTHING at our club but create misery so why should they get a chance to prove in Junk time of the season proper if they can coach.
McCrae as development coach..hahaha what a joke he wouldn't even know how to spell the word.. Still got little league running around with chicken arms and our players skill level has gone backwards since he come over.
Totally agree with you there Daniel.
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I know he never played in a GF side and ditto to comment posted by 1965??????????????
see once again you dont know what your talking about
Campbell has played football in quite a few premiership sides.
learn your facts before you start putting people down your just making a idiot out of yourself
Listen stupid how did I put Campbell down..... you are the idiot. What AFL/VFL Grand Finals has Campbell played in compared to King?????????
you stated campbell has never played in a grand final well as l stated he has played in a few maybe not at VFL/AFL but he has in many premierships
information for you King wont be at the club next year. ;D
So he can go and coach where he is best qualified. In your own words, not at VFL AFL level.
You are by far the stupidest bloke on this board
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I know he never played in a GF side and ditto to comment posted by 1965??????????????
see once again you dont know what your talking about
Campbell has played football in quite a few premiership sides.
learn your facts before you start putting people down your just making a idiot out of yourself
Listen stupid how did I put Campbell down..... you are the idiot. What AFL/VFL Grand Finals has Campbell played in compared to King?????????
you stated campbell has never played in a grand final well as l stated he has played in a few maybe not at VFL/AFL but he has in many premierships
information for you King wont be at the club next year. ;D
So he can go and coach where he is best qualified. In your own words, not at VFL AFL level.
You are by far the stupidest bloke on this board
:thatsgold
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So he can go and coach where he is best qualified. In your own words, not at VFL AFL level.
You are by far the stupidest bloke on this board
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And this is by far the best post I have on this board!!!!!
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WA Tiger, yeah let King coach
his a great coach having players push a mini buses across the oval at training :lol now thats a classic & l'm sure he learnt that playing grand finals.
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WA Tiger, yeah let King coach
his a great coach having players push a mini buses across the oval at training :lol now thats a classic & l'm sure he learnt that playing grand finals.
Please re-read comments from 1980 again as you have just proved it.... yet again. Where did i say that I wanted King to coach this club, I said he could be in the mix as a caretaker and he comes from a background of Grand Final wins in the VFL/AFL. I never said I wanted him as a coach, I am happy with Wallace... :scream. I do realise Wallace is gone regardless and I don't know who will coach this club but I do know whoever it is they will have my support to the end as I have done with all the coaches of this club. Pitty people like you could not support the coaches as I have done, when things get tough lets bag them out and call for there heads isn't that right TM!!!! :wallywink
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l never been a Wallace supporter ;D l knew his background of not being able to blood youngsters. nothing has changed. l actually wanted Gary Ayres & Jarrad Roughhead back then. Ayres is great coaching youngsters. better hope Sheeds brings you luck
if any of them assistants get the gig down there it will be a failure
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better hope Sheeds brings you luck
if any of them assistants get the gig down there it will be a failure
Why would Sheeds make me happy I do not want him coaching the team but again if he does I will support him and for once I agree no assistants from the current group at Richmond deserve the gig.
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Back in cyberspace for 10 minutes and I read this from Caro
::) :banghead ::)
I think I will go back and watch the satelite TV service coming out of Mt Isa :P
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Who thinks we will make the finals???? If you don't the worst thing we can do is appoint a caretaker coach who will kill himself trying to win games so he gets the gig next year.
Rotate the list and get some games into the young players, that way we will get a win - win . Experience thats lacking and some good draft picks before their isn't any opportunity to do so.
PS: I suspect Melb already have this plan in progress.
Keep Terry as the caretaker to develop the kids as he will have nothing to lose and it will showed strength of leadership against the hysteria from the media who would take please in our self destruction.
PS: My hat goes off to TW in his interview tonight , it showed courage.