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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on May 16, 2009, 05:45:42 AM
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Let's go shopping
Mike Sheahan | May 16, 2009
IT'S never going to be part of the official name, but you may rest assured the new Gold Coast club is going to be commonly known as the raiders.
The construction of the AFL's 17th team is gathering pace, with existing clubs increasingly concerned about prospective player losses.
It's starting to get serious for several of them, particularly the big guns, Hawthorn and Geelong.
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Then there's Richmond's outstanding youngster, Trent Cotchin, who has generated huge excitement in the north.
The problem for existing clubs is the AFL Commission has given Gold Coast a $1 million allowance in the TPP (total player payments).
That may not sound a lot when one player could get up to $1.2 million, but the expectation is more than 50 per cent of the original list will be youngsters locked into the fixed payment scheme for first and second-year draftees, with a slight premium.
Every Victorian club will be bracing for damage.
Particularly those who know they must rebuild. Particularly Richmond. More particularly if Cotchin is a target, as suspected.
One player agent said yesterday: "We used to talk about five-year plans, now they're going to be 10-15 years.
"We can all sit here and say what the Richmonds have got to do, but how do they do it?
"There's West Sydney to come the year after Gold Coast, remember."
What a time to be a talented young footballer in Australia.
Full article here:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25489349-19742,00.html
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What did we expect? Of course hes a target as is Brett Deledio - and problematic for us is that there is way way more than one club chasing the players. We could be in real trouble on this front, especially if cotchin and deledio decide that they will not see success at Richmond :help
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If we lose one of those 2 we may aswell pack up and chuck it in.
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Have people noticed the articles recently- about having to rebuild and in particular our club- Richmond. We are under attack from the GC, they are setting us up and using the media to instill a perception that we are going nowhere fast- they want both Cotchin and Deledio.
There have been several articles now with the views of "experts" "recruiters" etc... We are being set up.
RFC management better get of there backsides or we face losing our 2 best players.
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haah Sheehan your getting desperate ;D story is not worth reading
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Chill pill time .....
Cotchin & Deledio wont be going anywhere
Mike .... next ;D
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Have people noticed the articles recently- about having to rebuild and in particular our club- Richmond. We are under attack from the GC, they are setting us up and using the media to instill a perception that we are going nowhere fast- they want both Cotchin and Deledio.
There have been several articles now with the views of "experts" "recruiters" etc... We are being set up.
RFC management better get of there backsides or we face losing our 2 best players.
While I agree with these comments Ramps, from your viewpoint the option to tank will only make this problem worse. We need to show some backbone and fight through this to the best of our ability - show the rest of the football world that we do have talent and we aren't as bad as what the results currently say - give the Cotchin's and Deledio's belief that there is a future here. After all, we now have the salary very much under control so there is scope to reward these players commensurately.
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If we lose one of those 2 we may aswell pack up and chuck it in.
absolutely correct!!
I dont understand how Lids is still not signed up yet. WTF are they waiting for, yet they sign Schulz up at the start of last season.
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Chill pill time .....
Cotchin & Deledio wont be going anywhere
Mike .... next ;D
what makes you so sure WP?
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what makes you so sure WP?
17 reasons ;D
Seriously though, just the quality of the 2 young men in question that's all
I dont understand how Lids is still not signed up yet. WTF are they waiting for, yet they sign Schulz up at the start of last season.
Have you considered for one minute that it isn't the club that is slowing things down? Could it possibly the player manager?
I dont know either way but some of these player managers don't give a rats about the player they just care about their cut
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Have you considered for one minute that it isn't the club that is slowing things down? Could it possibly the player manager?
I dont know either way but some of these player managers don't give a rats about the player they just care about their cut
And a lot of the time it is these same jackals feeding their media counterparts with 'scoops' like this - just to inflate the value of their cut.
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Can't get him if he's signed up.
Lock him away Tiges, NOW!
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what makes you so sure WP?
17 reasons ;D
Seriously though, just the quality of the 2 young men in question that's all
I dont understand how Lids is still not signed up yet. WTF are they waiting for, yet they sign Schulz up at the start of last season.
Have you considered for one minute that it isn't the club that is slowing things down? Could it possibly the player manager?
I dont know either way but some of these player managers don't give a rats about the player they just care about their cut
Player managers slow the process down to make the clubs pay more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Player managers slow the process down to make the clubs pay more $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Exactly Jack
Got to watch those player managers ;)
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i dunno guys once you go tiger its hard to go any were else. :cheers
pride is a big thing for cotchin and his tigers so money wouldnt be a issue with them
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i dunno guys once you go tiger its hard to go any were else. :cheers
pride is a big thing for cotchin and his tigers so money wouldnt be a issue with them
not for one NATHAN BROWN.
lets hope Cotch or Lids isn't as money hungry as that thief or we are finished
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dude we were finished after that blues game :P
i would'nt care if brown went to GC17 he will just realise "oh will never win a flag in my carreer"
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With 4-6 30+ year olds leaving in the next 12-24 months, there will be plenty of cash to sign up our stars
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dude we were finished after that blues game :P
i would'nt care if brown went to GC17 he will just realise "oh will never win a flag in my carreer"
correct.
i knew walking out of the G that day, our season was over
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i dunno guys once you go tiger its hard to go any were else. :cheers
pride is a big thing for cotchin and his tigers so money wouldnt be a issue with them
not for one NATHAN BROWN.
lets hope Cotch or Lids isn't as money hungry as that thief or we are finished
What has Brown done to deserve that comment?
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i dunno guys once you go tiger its hard to go any were else. :cheers
pride is a big thing for cotchin and his tigers so money wouldnt be a issue with them
not for one NATHAN BROWN.
lets hope Cotch or Lids isn't as money hungry as that thief or we are finished
What has Brown done to deserve that comment?
come on mate do i need to spell it out for you.
He left the buldogs for one thing and one thing only CASH. He played that card like he plays out on the field.
so my point was i hope Cotch and Lids are not as greedy as Brown and stay with the Tigers.
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come on mate do i need to spell it out for you.
He left the buldogs for one thing and one thing only CASH. He played that card like he plays out on the field.
so my point was i hope Cotch and Lids are not as greedy as Brown and stay with the Tigers.
Yes, you do need to spell it out. How do you know that was his reason? Do you know him? Has he told you that? Has he stated that in any interview? Or is this just another of your unintelligent, uninformed blind prejudices?
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Anyone know who is out of contract at year's end and is vulnerable to recruitment from GC?
Stripes
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come on mate do i need to spell it out for you.
He left the buldogs for one thing and one thing only CASH. He played that card like he plays out on the field.
so my point was i hope Cotch and Lids are not as greedy as Brown and stay with the Tigers.
Yes, you do need to spell it out. How do you know that was his reason? Do you know him? Has he told you that? Has he stated that in any interview? Or is this just another of your unintelligent, uninformed blind prejudices?
so its okay for you and others to suggest that judd left for money and a visy contract etc etc but not allright to say that Brown left for cash.
but hang on JUDD NEVER TOLD ME, JUDD NEVER SAID IT IN A INTERVIEW SO THAT MEANS JUDD NEVER LEFT FOR CASH.
GIVE ME A stuffin BREAK AND GET YOUR NATHAN BROWN GLASSES OFF
BROWN LEFT FOR MONEY YOU IMBECILE THATS AS OBVIOUS AS YOUR BORING POSTS.
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No need to shout because someone has a different opinion.
No one was saying Browny cared only about money and t-shirts before he broke his leg and was winning games off his own boot. The leg robbed him and us of the rest and best of his career. He's now older and on the wrong side of 30 and he's lost penetration in his kicking and touch of pace. It happens to most footballers post-30 unless you're a freak like Richo or Craig Bradley.
Anyway back to the topic, it's just Mike throwing names out there to grab attention for a nothing story on a Saturday. There's no chance of these big-name players moving up to the Gold Coast. Look at Roughead. He basically said tonight why would I want to go to Queensland to a club just starting up when Victoria is my home and my mates and family live here.
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so its okay for you and others to suggest that judd left for money and a visy contract etc etc
Please refer me to any single post or comment where I said this. You are a lying fool = making something up to justify a bullcrap comment.
GIVE ME A effIN BREAK AND GET YOUR NATHAN BROWN GLASSES OFF
BROWN LEFT FOR MONEY YOU IMBECILE THATS AS OBVIOUS AS YOUR BORING POSTS.
How is it obvious? Please give me just ONE - that is not two or not three or not any other amount - just ONE piece of evidence to back up your lying prejudice.
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Brown's made plenty of public comments about money being an important factor in his life, even if they were flippant, the truth is often best said in jest.
However, I do think his impact as a player is getting down played. It's not our fault his best was taken away from us due to injury.
Also in his defence, he took a pretty decent pay cut in the years following his injury and rightfully so.
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Brown's made plenty of public comments about money being an important factor in his life,
So? That proves absolutely nothing. Ask anyone if money is an important factor in their own life and you will most likely get the same response. I asked Daniel for any sort of proof that Brown left for money - I'm still waiting. Your point says nothing - just states the bleeding obvious about almost everyone in society.
Also in his defence, he took a pretty decent pay cut in the years following his injury and rightfully so.
Would you call that the actions of a "money hungry thief" described in Daniel's earlier post? I must say Infamy, your post puzzles me - I don't get your point - it seems very contradictory.
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Brown's made plenty of public comments about money being an important factor in his life,
So? That proves absolutely nothing. Ask anyone if money is an important factor in their own life and you will most likely get the same response. I asked Daniel for any sort of proof that Brown left for money - I'm still waiting. Your point says nothing - just states the bleeding obvious about almost everyone in society.
Also in his defence, he took a pretty decent pay cut in the years following his injury and rightfully so.
Would you call that the actions of a "money hungry thief" described in Daniel's earlier post? I must say Infamy, your post puzzles me - I don't get your point - it seems very contradictory.
Thats the sound of a
:nopity :nopity
Move on Dawson you have been owned amigo
No more soup for you pal
Next
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Move on Dawson you have been owned amigo
Hey liar, where is your one proof to back up your lie??
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Move on Dawson you have been owned amigo
Hey liar, where is your one proof to back up your lie??
keeping punching pal you will get there one day.
Facts are Facts just ask Chris Judd and Nayfe Brown and once again you have been shown to be a one trick pony
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Facts are Facts just ask Chris Judd and Nayfe Brown and once again you have been shown to be a one trick pony
What drugs are you on? No, seriously?
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Facts are Facts just ask Chris Judd and Nayfe Brown and once again you have been shown to be a one trick pony
What drugs are you on? No, seriously?
can we get back to the topic instead of discussing drugs etc. How old are you geez?
Just leave it mate you aint doing yourself any favours on this forum.
That kind of talk is frowned upon here so please for the good of the forum, JUST LET IT GO
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Facts are Facts just ask Chris Judd and Nayfe Brown and once again you have been shown to be a one trick pony
What drugs are you on? No, seriously?
can we get back to the topic instead of discussing drugs etc. How old are you geez?
Just leave it mate you aint doing yourself any favours on this forum.
That kind of talk is frowned upon here so please for the good of the forum, JUST LET IT GO
For the good of the forum??? :rollin Pot, Kettle, Black..... Good to see X that you are being the bigger man in this argument. Surely we can't allow forum posts to get to the point where we are making insulting and derogatory comments about each other.
With you walking the streets serving and protecting, I can sleep well at night! ::)
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If we lose one of those 2 we may aswell pack up and chuck it in.
+1
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Brown's made plenty of public comments about money being an important factor in his life,
So? That proves absolutely nothing. Ask anyone if money is an important factor in their own life and you will most likely get the same response. I asked Daniel for any sort of proof that Brown left for money - I'm still waiting. Your point says nothing - just states the bleeding obvious about almost everyone in society.
Also in his defence, he took a pretty decent pay cut in the years following his injury and rightfully so.
Would you call that the actions of a "money hungry thief" described in Daniel's earlier post? I must say Infamy, your post puzzles me - I don't get your point - it seems very contradictory.
Sorry, I wasn't really taking sides on the issue, I knowingly made points for and against, but I like doing that
I certainly wouldn't call Brown a money hungry theif, that's just ridiculously sensationalist, but what else would you expect from daniel?
I think calling him a mercinary is reasonable and while the deal in hindsight wasn't the right move, prior to "that match" against Melbourne in 2005, it was looking like we did pretty well out of it. Given how crap the 2003 draft turned out, I'd say it's close to a draw.
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Sorry, I wasn't really taking sides on the issue, I knowingly made points for and against, but I like doing that
I certainly wouldn't call Brown a money hungry theif, that's just ridiculously sensationalist, but what else would you expect from daniel?
I think calling him a mercinary is reasonable and while the deal in hindsight wasn't the right move, prior to "that match" against Melbourne in 2005, it was looking like we did pretty well out of it. Given how crap the 2003 draft turned out, I'd say it's close to a draw.
No worries. I read it a bit incorrectly. I took serious offence to daniel telling lies and calling someone (who I have know personally) a thief, and I probably had a very short level of tolerance when it came to reading your comment. I challenge anyone on this forum to put their hand up and say that they haven't or wouldn't leave their current job for a new one if the offer of more money was sufficient. And to have that lying twerp then call Brown a thief for doing just that was not only disgraceful and slanderous, it was also just another example of his immaturity and absolute disrespect for anyone else. The sooner he leaves this forum to the rest of you who actually have something reasonable to say the better for all other posters.
My apologies to all other posters for my personal rant - I just hate the downside to a public forum where any discussion can be hijacked and polluted by a nobody with nothing worth saying or listening to.
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Sorry, I wasn't really taking sides on the issue, I knowingly made points for and against, but I like doing that
I certainly wouldn't call Brown a money hungry theif, that's just ridiculously sensationalist, but what else would you expect from daniel?
I think calling him a mercinary is reasonable and while the deal in hindsight wasn't the right move, prior to "that match" against Melbourne in 2005, it was looking like we did pretty well out of it. Given how crap the 2003 draft turned out, I'd say it's close to a draw.
No worries. I read it a bit incorrectly. I took serious offence to daniel telling lies and calling someone (who I have know personally) a thief, and I probably had a very short level of tolerance when it came to reading your comment. I challenge anyone on this forum to put their hand up and say that they haven't or wouldn't leave their current job for a new one if the offer of more money was sufficient. And to have that lying twerp then call Brown a thief for doing just that was not only disgraceful and slanderous, it was also just another example of his immaturity and absolute disrespect for anyone else. The sooner he leaves this forum to the rest of you who actually have something reasonable to say the better for all other posters.
My apologies to all other posters for my personal rant - I just hate the downside to a public forum where any discussion can be hijacked and polluted by a nobody with nothing worth saying or listening to.
to answer your question about leaving for money. In this game its a resounding NO. You really have got issues about this haven't you.
you can challenge all you like but Brisbane lions players of the famous era never left for money as did the Bombers of their era, hawks of the 80's ditto.
SUCCESSFUL TEAMS STICK TOGETHER AND DONT LEAVE FOR GREED OF THE $$$ Read Kruzer's article today. " we made a pact to stick together"
Now i ask you this if both Cotch and Lids go to the Gold Coast i wonder if your opinion or others on here would change. ABSOLUTELY!!
your reasons are flawed and i repeat my opinion for the last time
NATHAN BROWN IS A SELFISH FOOTBALLER ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD AND A MONEY HUNGRY INDIVIDUAL WHO LEFT FOR CASH.
Teams have to stick together to achieve a common goal( premiership) not leave whenever someone offers up a bigger price tag.
you can argue all you like, thats fine but my opinion still stands as it does regarding Judd when he left the Eagles. Although in Judd's defence there was an ever growing drug culture he wanted to distance himself from.
Did i ever hear Judd say he left for cash....NO but does that mean he didn't, WELL LETS TAKE A POLE ON HERE AND YOU WILL FIND YOUR ANSWER.
Actually better yet lets go back and read all the negative posts about Judd when he left the Blues.
Lets read all the comments that were made about his character shall we.
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you can argue all you like, thats fine but my opinion still stands as it does regarding Judd when he left the Eagles. Although in Judd's defence there was an ever growing drug culture he wanted to distance himself from.
Now that is champagne comedy.
Judd is certainly no angel
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Brown left the Bullies, not us. Who gives a stuff why! Although i'm glad he did. He has been a very loyal and very good player for us, so why question his integrity.
Money along with other things i.e. opportunity, chance of playing finals, missing home, is why people change clubs- reality!
Daniel, you having a shot at Brown is a f@#king disgrace! I usually enjoy your rants but this IMO crosses the line!
You seem like a really bitter little man! Were you not hugged as a kid?
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Brown left the Bullies, not us. Who gives a stuff why! Although i'm glad he did. He has been a very loyal and very good player for us, so why question his integrity.
Money along with other things i.e. opportunity, chance of playing finals, missing home, is why people change clubs- reality!
Daniel, you having a shot at Brown is a f@#king disgrace! I usually enjoy your rants but this IMO crosses the line!
You seem like a really bitter little man! Were you not hugged as a kid?
hey tone your comments mean as much to me as this eurovision contest.
i crossed the line says BIG TONE.. hahahahahahahaha comment of the year.
I care little what you or anyone thinks of me, now continue reading my rants and word of advice pal dont bother replying
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I'm not a fan of the 5 year deal, but that doesn't mean i'm not a fan of a 10 year deal.
Sign Cotch up on an Alistair Lynch type contract now.
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I care little what you or anyone thinks of me, now continue reading my rants and word of advice pal dont bother replying
Well state the obvious why dont you? Not thinking about what others think shows little thought at all.
As far as continue reading your rants, you and your sort are why some boards have ingore features. I dont need those features as I can see your name and disrgard what is in the post but it would be handy just to not see it at all.
Hey Mods, any chance some anti Troll features ??
Now back on track, they are going nowhere. We will have cap room, in fact we will have room we will HAVE to fill with some of the retirements come end of this season. They will get good long term deals at the only football club they have known.
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Brown left the Bullies, not us. Who gives a stuff why! Although i'm glad he did. He has been a very loyal and very good player for us, so why question his integrity.
Money along with other things i.e. opportunity, chance of playing finals, missing home, is why people change clubs- reality!
Daniel, you having a shot at Brown is a f@#king disgrace! I usually enjoy your rants but this IMO crosses the line!
You seem like a really bitter little man! Were you not hugged as a kid?
hey tone your comments mean as much to me as this eurovision contest.
i crossed the line says BIG TONE.. hahahahahahahaha comment of the year.
I care little what you or anyone thinks of me, now continue reading my rants and word of advice pal dont bother replying
Firstly little Danny, i am not your pal and i'm pretty sure you don't have many with that mouth of yours.
And i will continue reading your rants, as they make me laugh, not much substance to them but very commical!
You remind me of a little yapping dog Daniel, all bark and no bite!
But keep doing what you are doing, everybody seems to be really interested with what you have to say! :lol