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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: bojangles17 on May 18, 2009, 10:27:50 PM
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Hearing all sorts of wild stories on these boards about tanking with an aim to snaffling this kid...so how good is he...I heard Vickery was going to be awesome this time last year...lets just say i hope he has a pile of improvement left in him ::)...There are no guarantees come draft time and there's no substitute for teaching a young kid how to WIN...No first R draft pick is worth the amount of pain a fan should endure for 4 months without winning a game...I just cant make sense of that ???
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John Butcher
(http://www-static.sportingpulse.com/pics/00/00/13/54/135411_1_M.jpg)
Club: Gippsland Power
No: 5
D.O.B.: 03/07/1991
Height: 197cm
Weight: 86kg (3kg gain since last year)
Video:
2008 U18 Champs highlights - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CDa74UishA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CDa74UishA)
AFL site video - http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=62650 (http://afl.com.au/News/NEWSARTICLE/tabid/208/Default.aspx?newsId=62650)
Articles:
John Butcher expected to go top-two in national draft (http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/sport/afl/story/0,27046,25490239-5016169,00.html)
Local Club: Maffra.
Nickname: John-Boy
Greatest Football Moment: Winning U/16’s Premiership with Maffra in 2007.
Other Sports Played: Cricket, Tennis.
Football Ambitions: Play the highest standard possible.
Career Ambitions: Sports Medicine.
Best advice you have been given: "Don’t Hold Back"
Favourite Food: Chicken.
Favourite Drink: Apple Juice.
Favourite Song/Group: Powderfinger.
Favourite Movie: Remember the Titans.
Favourite TV Show: Prison Break.
Favourite Sportsperson: Shane Warne.
Most memorable sporting moment you have seen: Aussies qualifying for World Cup (Soccer).
Seven dream guests for dinner: Jennifer Hawkins, Rove, Carl Barron, Robert Harvey, Shane Warne, “The Rock”.
Favourite AFL player: Robert Harvey.
Barrack for in the AFL: St. Kilda.
http://www.sportingpulse.com/club_info.cgi?client=1-3020-27623-0-0&sID=61318&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=5181013§ionID=61318
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;D strong marking forward, good kicking, very athletic, sport all rounder & dad pushing him all the way to stardom ;D
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A bit about his old man:
Maffra inducts its Hall of Fame
MORE than 200 of Maffra Football Club's faithful turned out to see premiership coach Wayne Butcher inducted as a legend in the club's new Hall of Fame last Saturday.
Butcher was recognised with the top award for his dedication to the club over more than three decades.
He played 210 senior games for the Eagles before beginning an exceptional coaching career in 1990.
Butcher coached Maffra's reserves to flags in 1990 and 1991, before a five-year stint at Boisdale-Briagolong which netted him another flag and three runners-up trophies.
In 1997, he coached Maffra's under-18s to be runners-up then returned to Boisdale-Briagolong for four years, including two flags.
Butcher became Maffra's senior coach in 2002 and led the Eagles to a drought-breaking premiership over Wonthaggi.
He coached the seniors to a premiership hat-trick, before Maffra's dream run was ended by Traralgon in the 2005 grand final.
Since 2006, Butcher has led Maffra's under-16s to a flag and a runners-up trophy.
He remains the only person to have coached the Eagles in all four grades of football and in his 18 years as coach of teams at Maffra and Boisdale-Briagolong, his charges have never finished lower than third.
Nine others were also inducted as members in the Hall of Fame at a function at Maffra Football Netball Clubs social rooms on Saturday.
The inductees were Charles Streeter, Sam Barrett, Arthur Batchelor, Tom Tiger Burley, Dave Higgins, Bill Pleydell, John Vardy, Jeff Gieschen and Graham Robbins.
Streeter, Barrett, Batchelor and Burley were inducted posthumously and their awards were accepted by family members.
Butcher said he was shocked by his induction.
"Just to be mentioned alongside the other inductees is a real honour,'' he said.
"Im very grateful that the Maffra Football Club has allowed me and my family to be part of its history.
"With my boys (John and Danny) coming through and playing football, I hope to be contributing to the club for many more years.''
http://sale.yourguide.com.au/news/local/sport/afl/maffra-inducts-its-hall-of-fame/798400.aspx?storypage=0
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John will go top 3.
One of the best kicks for goal I've seen coming through the Under 18's.
Attibutes:
*One on One marking elite
*Goal Kicking elite
*Agility for 197cm Ok
*Speed for 197cm Avg
He's probably a better mark and kick than Jack Watts was but Watts work around the ground is twice as good as Butchers. Butcher is actually very similar to Vickory but more not as quick and maybe a better kick for goal.
It's so tough to pick Key position players and there expectations.
Vickory is harshly judged, he's gone from dominating against his age group and bullying boys around to playing the VFL against nuggety and well built men. Hugh step, leave him to develop.
Butcher will be good player, I'm nervous as I see contrasts to Josh Fraser. Pick 1 or 2 it may come back to haunt you but if he hasn't been picked up in top 5 he's a steal.
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John will go top 3.
One of the best kicks for goal I've seen coming through the Under 18's.
Attibutes:
*One on One marking elite
*Goal Kicking elite
*Agility for 197cm Ok
*Speed for 197cm Avg
The only problem with this is that his goal kicking was crap at the start of last year, but all of a sudden improved massively in the 2nd half of the season. This year he's started off kicking crap again, with ok agility and avg speed, he'd want to start improving his conversion again.
I've always wondered about the effect of a preseason on forwards goal kicking (at all levels), putting on extra weight will always affect your movement and it wouldn't surprise me if it required a bit of adjustment to get used to the new bulk.
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I personally think he's risking for a number 1 pick.
He is a year younger then Watts but Watts is streets better
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John will go top 3.
One of the best kicks for goal I've seen coming through the Under 18's.
Attibutes:
*One on One marking elite
*Goal Kicking elite
*Agility for 197cm Ok
*Speed for 197cm Avg
The only problem with this is that his goal kicking was crap at the start of last year, but all of a sudden improved massively in the 2nd half of the season. This year he's started off kicking crap again, with ok agility and avg speed, he'd want to start improving his conversion again.
I've always wondered about the effect of a preseason on forwards goal kicking (at all levels), putting on extra weight will always affect your movement and it wouldn't surprise me if it required a bit of adjustment to get used to the new bulk.
Butcher has kicked 16.6 from 5 games this year including bags of 6.1 and 5.1
TAC Cup stats:
http://www.sportingpulse.com/team_info.cgi?player=John Butcher&action=PSTATS&pID=187667306&client=1-3020-0-81015-8056772
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I personally think he's risking for a number 1 pick.
He is a year younger then Watts but Watts is streets better
tell me how you comparing them to each other l like to know
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I personally think he's risking for a number 1 pick.
He is a year younger then Watts but Watts is streets better
tell me how you comparing them to each other l like to know
Under 18's TAC Cup last year Watts stood out in numerous ways compared to Butcher. Butcher was bottom age though.
Watts presented more and has a quicker turning circle than Butcher which was evident when he played up the ground.
Honestly One on One Butcher probably is a tad better than Watts as there kicking was resemble the same. Butcher has his moments where his kicking goes missing.
The underlying part of the game where Watts is streets above Butcher is when the ball hits the ground. Watts is quick for a big guy and his ball to foot speed is alot quicker than Butcher. If the ball hits the ground Watts has the uncanny ability to rove it and snap a goal. Butcher at TAC level was too slow to do so.
As we all know anything could happen from here.
Another Butcher positive is that he has great ruck skills which he normally does when the ball is in the F50 where as Watts isn't big enough to do the same.
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I personally think he's risking for a number 1 pick.
He is a year younger then Watts but Watts is streets better
tell me how you comparing them to each other l like to know
Under 18's TAC Cup last year Watts stood out in numerous ways compared to Butcher. Butcher was bottom age though.
Watts presented more and has a quicker turning circle than Butcher which was evident when he played up the ground.
Honestly One on One Butcher probably is a tad better than Watts as there kicking was resemble the same. Butcher has his moments where his kicking goes missing.
The underlying part of the game where Watts is streets above Butcher is when the ball hits the ground. Watts is quick for a big guy and his ball to foot speed is alot quicker than Butcher. If the ball hits the ground Watts has the uncanny ability to rove it and snap a goal. Butcher at TAC level was too slow to do so.
As we all know anything could happen from here.
Another Butcher positive is that he has great ruck skills which he normally does when the ball is in the F50 where as Watts isn't big enough to do the same.
how often do you watch Butcher play,
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I'm involved with another Under 18 club so when ever we play him.
Watched closely at the TAC Cup last year.
Thats all I'm basing it off.
Just an opinion. Do you disagree?
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I'm involved with another Under 18 club so when ever we play him.
Watched closely at the TAC Cup last year.
Thats all I'm basing it off.
Just an opinion. Do you disagree?
;D
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A bit more on Butcher.....
Draft tip Butcher carves up Metro (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/77947/default.aspx)
Top draft hope ducks hype (http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/77948/default.aspx)
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Popelord said he bet his house that Vic Metro would beat a over 30 year old All-Australian side ;D
They cant even beat a Vic Country side :thumbsup well done fellas :clapping :clapping
Butcher played very well l'm told ;D
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Draft isnt as bad as many are marking out. IMHO there are probably 35 kids who would be worth selecting. Im still wanting the extra pick at the start of the 2nd round. 4 picks inside 35 could set us up nicely.
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Lol always hurts against the Country, well deserved win by the Country boys they have a very strong side, Butcher was too big for our boys but they all tried hard.
I just used that comment for arguing a point and I unfairly involved our Metro side. It wouldn't have been brought if it wasn't some pretty low comments from Tigermonk.
Butcher was prominent and showed why he'll go top 5 in the draft. Scully was fantastic and is easily the best midfielder going around for his age, reads the play beautifully will be devastating seeing him in a Demon jumper.
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Popelord said he bet his house that Vic Metro would beat a over 30 year old All-Australian side ;D
Easy bet to make when all you're offering is a cardboard box
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= Crickets.
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Lol always hurts against the Country, well deserved win by the Country boys they have a very strong side, Butcher was too big for our boys but they all tried hard.
I just used that comment for arguing a point and I unfairly involved our Metro side. It wouldn't have been brought if it wasn't some pretty low comments from Tigermonk.
Butcher was prominent and showed why he'll go top 5 in the draft. Scully was fantastic and is easily the best midfielder going around for his age, reads the play beautifully will be devastating seeing him in a Demon jumper.
l never made any low comments to you
you made the comments about the Vic metro against beating a AA 30+ side & l said you lose your house not your cardboard box ;D
VIC COUNTRY :thumbsup as they say down here the VIC METRO was Butchered ;D lighten up young fella
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Lol always hurts against the Country, well deserved win by the Country boys they have a very strong side, Butcher was too big for our boys but they all tried hard.
I just used that comment for arguing a point and I unfairly involved our Metro side. It wouldn't have been brought if it wasn't some pretty low comments from Tigermonk.
Butcher was prominent and showed why he'll go top 5 in the draft. Scully was fantastic and is easily the best midfielder going around for his age, reads the play beautifully will be devastating seeing him in a Demon jumper.
l never made any low comments to you
you made the comments about the Vic metro against beating a AA 30+ side & l said you lose your house not your cardboard box ;D
VIC COUNTRY :thumbsup as they say down here the VIC METRO was Butchered ;D lighten up young fella
Regardless, you said something along the lines of that i didn't know anything for something being involved in the TAC with VM. I don't really think that's fair to bring up, I'm happy to talk about Metro when asked but no point in bringing them up unless it's relevant. I'd rather talk about Richmond.
Back to the thread, any views on Butchers mouth and body language? Not suggesting but could be the next Richo?
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As much as I would love and believe we need Butcher in our team, I think Melbourne will get him. If they finish last I'm under the assumption that they get the first pick (priority) and then the second pick for finishing down the bottom. If this is the case then I would be very surprized if they don't pick up Scully and Butcher in one foul blow.
The rest of the season as much about getting teams like Melbourne and, more importantly, West Coast enough wins that they miss out on their priority pick and finish above us. We can influence this with the Eagles (we play them twice and are currently on 3 wins) and less so the Demons (we play them once more but unfortunately they are only on one win - us).
For all this planning and predicting, I still think we will finish with more than 5 wins regardless :'(
Stripes
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Back to the thread, any views on Butchers mouth and body language? Not suggesting but could be the next Richo?
Alot of preasure on young Butch, watched closely every week by scouts, all youngsters have thier moments but l doubt Richmond will get him
Melbourne are the ones seriously after him & l'm told would love to take him at #1 & build thier forward line along side with Watts
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If we could get 2 classy midfielders + Ben Griffiths with our first 3 picks: obviously Im hoping for the priority pick, then Id reckon that that would be a good result.
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Back to the thread, any views on Butchers mouth and body language? Not suggesting but could be the next Richo?
Alot of preasure on young Butch, watched closely every week by scouts, all youngsters have thier moments but l doubt Richmond will get him
Melbourne are the ones seriously after him & l'm told would love to take him at #1 & build thier forward line along side with Watts
It's so frustrating with eth priority picks with Melbourne, Butcher would be a fine pick up for Richmond.
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Burgatron has Scully at 1 and Butcher at 2....
Tom Scully (Vic Metro)
Has already been given the No.1 draft tag and after his first effort for Metro it's not hard to see why. The midfielder amassed a game-high 33 disposals against Vic Country, including 23 handballs. Has brilliant hands in tight situations.
John Butcher (Vic Country)
The likely No.2 draft pick at this stage behind Vic Metro's Tom Scully. Still, he is widely regarded as the best available tall in attack. He has booted five goals in two matches so far.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/78414/default.aspx
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Tom Scully (Vic Metro)
Has already been given the No.1 draft tag and after his first effort for Metro it's not hard to see why. The midfielder amassed a game-high 33 disposals against Vic Country, including 23 handballs. Has brilliant hands in tight situations.
So it must be asked for someone who has not seen this Scully kid play . . . . can he kick?
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Back to the thread, any views on Butchers mouth and body language? Not suggesting but could be the next Richo?
Alot of preasure on young Butch, watched closely every week by scouts, all youngsters have thier moments but l doubt Richmond will get him
Melbourne are the ones seriously after him & l'm told would love to take him at #1 & build thier forward line along side with Watts
It's so frustrating with eth priority picks with Melbourne, Butcher would be a fine pick up for Richmond.
Forget about Butcher. He is going to the dees.
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Melbourne faces decision on key forward John Butcher
Jon Ralph | August 12, 2009
HAVING worked so hard for a precious priority pick, the Demons face a critical decision on Victorian key-forward John Butcher.
Fremantle's win over Port Adelaide on Sunday means the Demons can afford to beat the Dockers next week and still win the first two picks in this year's national draft.
The only problem is the draft's best three players are midfielders in Dandenong's Tom Scully, Peel Thunder's Anthony Morabito, and Sturt's Jackson Trengove.
Ideally, the Demons would take the tall-small option of Scully, then Butcher, to shore up their spine for a decade.
But it is believed the club is leaning towards taking the two best players, regardless of position, which would see Butcher shunted down the draft pecking order.
Butcher hit form last week with five goals for the Gippsland Power against Oakleigh after a quiet national carnival.
He is clearly the best tall draft prospect, but with questions on his kicking technique, he is clearly not in the class of the three midfielders.
Melbourne considers Scully an outstanding midfielder, but Trengove continues to close the gap.
AFL national talent manager Kevin Sheehan said yesterday Butcher was " no doubt" the best tall prospect.
"It looks to be a draft full of midfielders," he said.
"They have been the most impressive, but he (Butcher) is back in top nick.
"All the clubs will be watching guys like him over the next month or six weeks."
Scully has finished football commitments with Haileybury Grammar and a horde of talent scouts is sure to attend when he plays Butcher's Gippsland side on Saturday at Dandenong's Shepley Oval.
Butcher is considered a different type of forward who would complement the Demons No. 1 draft pick Watts, and together they could form the club's own Riewoldt-Koschitzke combination.
But the club might decide Morabito or Trengove are too enticing, just as it did when selecting midfielders Colin Sylvia (3) and Brock McLean (5) in the 2003 national draft.
Trengove was the South Australian captain and an All-Australian in the national championships, then recently starred in his SANFL debut.
"He was best on ground by that far," Sheahan said.
"Now they are starting to think he's a young Nathan Buckley, who had a brilliant year in the SANFL for Port Adelaide."
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25917217-19742,00.html
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Any club who takes a midfielder before building thier tall players up have no idea.
Good talls dont come around often but thier are heaps of midfielders in every draft.
you can change midfielders every 2 years
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Pick 3 will be a good situation to be in - happy at this stage if we ended up with Scully, Trengove or Butcher.
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I'd be very nervous taking Butcher with a top 3 pick
If we had pick 5-6 and he slipped through then no problem, but not so convinced on Top 3.
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Butcher will be a star. Mixture of Kosi & Roughead. Will be better than Watts IMO.
Melbourne would be crazy to not pick him.
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Any club who takes a midfielder before building thier tall players up have no idea.
Good talls dont come around often but thier are heaps of midfielders in every draft.
you can change midfielders every 2 years
Especially when the new teams will hog the early picks in the next 3 drafts after this one. A forward line of Butcher, Post, Riewoldt as talls with Morton as a 4th forward and Vickery also able to push forward when not in the ruck isn't too shabby moving forward. That's a decent forward line for the next 10 years.
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you're right. could argue both ways for butcher or trengove.
the bottom line is that it would be awesome to have pick 3 so we get one of scully/butcher/trengove
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you're right. could argue both ways for butcher or trengove.
the bottom line is that it would be awesome to have pick 3 so we get one of scully/butcher/trengove
I think even with pick 5 we'll be fine. Morabito was a standout at the championships, could be a Pavlich type, he certainly has the build. Dustin Martin was also ripping it up at the champs, perhaps a Hodge type with his elite skills. Can't see us losing out of that group.
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you're right. could argue both ways for butcher or trengove.
the bottom line is that it would be awesome to have pick 3 so we get one of scully/butcher/trengove
I think even with pick 5 we'll be fine. Morabito was a standout at the championships, could be a Pavlich type, he certainly has the build. Dustin Martin was also ripping it up at the champs, perhaps a Hodge type with his elite skills. Can't see us losing out of that group.
If WA clubs end up with earlier picks then yep you would think they'd stick to home grown and look at Morabito and Lucas. However if North has an earlier pick then Butcher and Trengove will both be gone IMO.
I'm not sure Morabito is a Pavlich type? From what I've seen of him (which isn't much too be honest) he isn't a KPP. He's played more as a flanker.
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you're right. could argue both ways for butcher or trengove.
the bottom line is that it would be awesome to have pick 3 so we get one of scully/butcher/trengove
I think even with pick 5 we'll be fine. Morabito was a standout at the championships, could be a Pavlich type, he certainly has the build. Dustin Martin was also ripping it up at the champs, perhaps a Hodge type with his elite skills. Can't see us losing out of that group.
If WA clubs end up with earlier picks then yep you would think they'd stick to home grown and look at Morabito and Lucas. However if North has an earlier pick then Butcher and Trengove will both be gone IMO.
I'm not sure Morabito is a Pavlich type? From what I've seen of him (which isn't much too be honest) he isn't a KPP. He's played more as a flanker.
He's definitely a midfielder, plays mostly on the wing, but Pavlich was an inbetweener as a junior too, he can still play both positions. Given Morabito's size, I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn into a Pav type.
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So as it stands we have pick 4 don't we??
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Correct.
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If Freo beats Melbourne pick 3 is almost certainly ours to lose.
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I sort of hope we get Butcher but also feel Tregrove might be the best pick full stop. I wont be unhappy basically who ever we pick but feel we will get either the Butch or the Grove.
Also feel that there will be alot more trading this year for the clubs who want to stay strong, expect alot of turnover!!!!
This year is the last year to buy some player insurance and dont be surprised to see the best full list win the flag in the next few years.
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Yep pick 3 would be great. Either a top KPP or a top midfielder. No complaints here.
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I think pick 3 or 4 would represent where we truely are as a club this year on the field, any higher the pick or us any higher on the ladder would be a false indicator to this years performance.
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Young players face a reality check
Emma Quayle | October 3, 2009
IN ANY draft year, it is inevitable that as some young players arrive on the scene, improve and force their names up the order, others, who started shining a lot earlier, will go the other way. Perhaps one of the reasons Daniel Rich reached No. 7 in last year's draft was that he had been in the under-18 system for two full seasons, giving people more time to find things they didn't quite like. It gave them longer to seek out some flaws, and longer for him to present them.
This year, that player is John Butcher. At the start of the season, the 18-year-old had established himself as a very gifted player. Had he been in last year's draft his efforts, playing at centre-half-forward as a 17-year-old, would have seen him snapped up early, without question, by a very happy club. At the start of this season, he was seen as a top three pick, if not a potential No. 1. Now it is more difficult to see where he fits in. Some suspect he may slide, although there seemed a building sense this week that when things settle he will sit somewhere inside the top 10.
Ultimately, a club may decide that talented key forwards don't come around too often, that the Gold Coast and western Sydney will be getting the best ones that turn up in the next few years, and that they should just go with him. It is difficult to see him getting past Essendon at No. 10, at the very least, given Matthew Lloyd and Scott Lucas have retired, Scott Gumbleton hasn't played for two years, Jay Neagle hasn't proven much and Michael Hurley is so suited to defence. But he may well go much earlier.
So, what has happened? Most recruiters remain impressed with Butcher's marking: he makes the ball stick and he is quick on the lead (he ran a 2.99 second 20-metre sprint this week) although he can be outbodied. He can grab a ground ball, and his agility is fine. He has some issues with his kicking, including his routine.
Consistency is another query - one week, said a recruiter, he'd chase, tackle and harass, and the next he would simply stand around. Add to that a disappointing national carnival, and there are your question marks in a game that has plenty of positives. He has a quiet nature, but is a really nice kid and, said a few recruiters, was excellent in his interviews.
Butcher has been working on his kicking. When he was in the AIS-AFL Academy two years ago, he had his technique filmed, and it was identified that improving his core strength would improve his action. Slowly this season he has grown stronger around the hips and thighs. And remember Nick Riewoldt was still missing shots when he had become an AFL star, and everyone had an opinion on what he should be doing.
''I had a little bit of a slump at the hip because I didn't have enough core strength, and I probably kick with a bent knee, so I've been trying to straighten that out a little it. Every chance I get I go out and have a few shots, so it's definitely something I've [been] working on,'' Butcher said.
''The AIS was good. We did a video analysis, all the biomechanics stuff, and they left no stone unturned to help me improve. I still have days where I'm a bit inaccurate, but I think it's improved and I'm still learning how to stick with my routine and still go through it when I miss a couple.''
After starring for Vic Country in last year's championships, eyes were always going to be fixed on Butcher again this year, and he himself felt let down at the end of it, like he didn't do enough for his team (others will say he's too hard on himself). In the first quarter of the opening game, he swept onto a loose ball on the 50-metre line, scooped it up cleanly and goalled on the run from a tight angle, but from the next centre bounce onwards he had two opponents by his side almost all day. It was attention he wasn't used to.
''It just takes a bit of getting used to, and you have to live with it because it's going to happen, the higher up you get it's going to get more and more difficult, so you have to get your head around it and take it on, I guess.''
There are other pieces to the Butcher puzzle. In December, he had surgery to shave a bump off his hip joint, and a pre-season that didn't start until it was almost March. In the third game of the championships he hurt his shoulder, but decided to keep playing; in the second-last match, he chipped a thumb but chose to play in the final. ''I just tried to push it to [the] back of my mind, because if you're out there playing, you have to perform,'' he said. He exposed himself and he didn't play well, but he may have impressed for other reasons.
It's worth remembering, too, that country kids who spend two years in the system are travelling long hours each week. Butcher lives in Maffra, an hour from the Gippsland Power's training base and three hours from Melbourne. He has spent almost every week at centre half-forward, and he loves it there - ''I love leading up, working hard to get the ball and then getting it down to full-forward,'' he said - although one recruiter wondered why the Power hadn't given him a run at centre half-back some weeks, to see if he could do it, but also to give him a mental break.
For Butcher, it has felt like a long two years. He still has his year 12 exams to get through, but he is looking forward to November. ''It's been a long year and a slow year,'' he said. ''Even the last couple of months have really dragged, but I'm trying to just look forward to it now. Hopefully I'm lucky enough just to get the chance, it's something I've been waiting so long for.''
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/young-players-stuff/2009/10/02/1254418714240.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
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Butcher played well in the Grand Final winning side for Maffra.
He is ready for the AFL & has all the goods :thumbsup
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an intruiging situation, looks to have the raw talent, Can it be tapped? or do we go with someone like Temel that looks to be right on the cusp of senior footy?
we've had two young KPP that look to have the raw talent in Sarge and Hughes both AA juniors, both failed to progress
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Trengrove, Butcher and Martin are all super pick ups.
You can waste alot of time trying to predict the future but if we score any of these picks they will be a super addition to the list.
Speculation is that we'll have to choose out of Butcher or Martin. I think both will be great players I'm heading towards Martin as he seems more of a sure bet, that doesn't make Butcher any less of a player.
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Butcher has had alot of injuries that l think might take some years off his football.
You would hope to recruit a player who can be a 10 year player & that would be my only concern
Like Cotchin, its nice to have great talent but getting him onto the park & kepping him there & reap the rewards. Is he another Coughlan ? l hope not.
whoever we get l just hope they play consistant football & be a major input to the team structure