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No tank order for Rawlings
Greg Denham | June 08, 2009 | The Australian
INTERIM Richmond senior coach Jade Rawlings will not be instructed to tank matches for the rest of the season in order for the Tigers to get a national draft concession in November.
Rawlings, who on Saturday was appointed to take over from Terry Wallace for the remaining 11 games this season, will not be requested to compromise his new responsibilities, according to Richmond general manager of football operations Craig Cameron.
"There have not been and will not be any instructions not to win," Cameron said yesterday. "The tank is not on."
Richmond has won two of its first 11 matches this season and if it finishes the season with less than 20 premiership points it becomes eligible to have another national draft selection in between the first and second rounds.
"We'll play some developing blokes, but we also want to give our supporters hope for the rest of the season and in the future," Cameron said. "We want to win games while we're developing some of our younger players."
Richmond has used 35 players at senior level already this season, but under Rawlings, 31, it expects to blood several more players in the run home, including its first two national draft choices from last year, teenagers Tyrone Vickery and Jayden Post, and up to two more rookie-listed players.
Developing ruckman Vickery, the eighth overall choice last November, is likely to soon make his senior debut, possibly as a tall-forward option.
Other players who appear certain to get more opportunities include Shane Edwards and last year's pick-ups Adam Thomson (from Port Adelaide) and Tom Hislop (from Essendon) who are both contracted until the end of 2010.
It is also understood Rawlings will attempt to simplify Richmond's game plan and settle several players into more permanent positions, starting with last year's best-and-fairest winner Brett Deledio, who has been played in a variety of roles in the first half of the season.
The decision to appoint Rawlings, the Tigers' coach of their VFL affiliate club Coburg, ahead of its midfield coach and former captain Wayne Campbell, was made by Cameron, chief executive Steven Wright and club psychologist Jeff Bond, and was ratified by the Richmond board. Directors will meet tomorrow night to initiate a plan for the future, including the recommendation of the immediate formation of a sub-committee to oversee the appointment of a full-time coach.
Richmond favoured Rawlings because of his 18-month stint with Coburg, where he coached in his own right, and because it did not want to disrupt the work being done by its line coaches Campbell, David King (defenders) and Brian Royal, who oversees the club's forward structure.
Rawlings, who played 148 games with Hawthorn (116), the Western Bulldogs (29) and North Melbourne (three before retiring in 2006), will make his senior debut against West Coast on Saturday night at Etihad Stadium.
"The main thing I want to get out is that one season's gone and a new one's starting, and we really want to get some life into the second half of the year," Rawlings said.
"This place is a fantastic footy club, and I'm lucky to be part of it, I think the fundamentals are pretty good."
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25602159-5012432,00.html
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Lets hope its just for public consumption because if there fair dinkum then its full on idiocy considering the list we have.
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Lets hope its just for public consumption because if there fair dinkum then its full on idiocy considering the list we have.
going over old ground but tanking aint an option
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Lets hope its just for public consumption because if there fair dinkum then its full on idiocy considering the list we have.
going over old ground but tanking aint an option
why is that jack?
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Lets hope its just for public consumption because if there fair dinkum then its full on idiocy considering the list we have.
going over old ground but tanking aint an option
why is that jack?
we have had good picks in the past and gone backwards (2005 -5 first/second round picks by memory? )
Rawlings is correct. We need to settle the team down.
We have serious problems in games where we lose structure, thus was the case in the 3rd quarter on friday night.
Rawlings brief is to develop the young players and play an attacking style of footy.
Blaisee, we both love the club. Wallace is gone now ,lets play attractive football , no more short kicks. bring on saturday night/
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exactly what l been saying for years
Play attacking football, win lose or draw as long as is professionals at work & not this ugly crap the supporters get dished up every week for 27 years
off to the Melbourne vs Collingwood game soon & Melbourne brand of football with its youth is watchable, even Collingwood youth are exciting but Richmond youth are stuck in the VFL 1st & 2nds :lol
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might further say that in the 3rd quarter we had too many players behind the ball and we lost structure. The mindset was to defend and not attack. thus we didnt kick a goal.
Look at the 2nd quarter, we had players staying inside F50 thus we had someone to go to. 3rd quarter , we had everyone behind the ball, apart form Cogs for 3 minutes who was seen sitting in the goal square( he cant kick over a jam tim let alone kick a goal :banghead)
It will be interesting next week when west coast go forward what our players in F50 do. you will know early on in the game if we are so-called tanking or developing players. If they stay in F 50 and keep some structure , we are then trying to develop, if everyone goes into D 50, we are playing poo footy once again and nothing has changed.
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sojack, do you think the list is good enoughto make finals?
I dont, nowhere near good enough, we have 10 players of the right age and talent, we need at least 20. We need better players and finishing 10th with 8 wins wont get them for us.
Very short sighted to win some meaningless games IMHO
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i do want us to get that priority pick and lose as many as possible from now on.
but i do like the idea of playing an attacking style and playing young kids. certainly the club will not be saying publicly "we're out there to tank and lose game" but they'll be telling jade he's not under any pressure to win games. he can go out and play the kids and play attacking. and we'll be happy either way.
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Very short sighted to win some meaningless games IMHO
That's if you believe there is such a thing as a meaningless win.
The win against Freo didn't look meaningless to any Richmond players, staff or supporters I saw celebrating.
I don't want my club to be comfortable with accepting welfare. I feel pretty good about the article.
If the club couldn't be bothered then I don't see why I should be either.
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Lets hope its just for public consumption because if there fair dinkum then its full on idiocy considering the list we have.
yeah ramps like losing every bloody week would be a great platform to build a case when re-signing stars in cotchin & Lids and thousands of swinging members, Got any other brilliant ideas.. ::)
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Lets hope its just for public consumption because if there fair dinkum then its full on idiocy considering the list we have.
going over old ground but tanking aint an option
why is that jack?
we have had good picks in the past and gone backwards (2005 -5 first/second round picks by memory? )
Rawlings is correct. We need to settle the team down.
We have serious problems in games where we lose structure, thus was the case in the 3rd quarter on friday night.
Rawlings brief is to develop the young players and play an attacking style of footy.
Blaisee, we both love the club. Wallace is gone now ,lets play attractive football , no more short kicks. bring on saturday night/
Outside of winning some cash, would you really get excited about a 5 goal win against the Eagles.
Come on mate. Yes i hear what your saying about the draft picks in 05 but that was under Wallace
We are not talking about 5 draft picks, we are talking about one.
Win 4 games possibly get Butcher or Scully. Win 7 games and get SFA
How good do the Blues look with all their top picks. They are one forward to help Fev, away from being a power house again all because they played the game while we finished stuffin 9th
Our forward line needs help and
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sojack, do you think the list is good enoughto make finals?
I dont, nowhere near good enough, we have 10 players of the right age and talent, we need at least 20. We need better players and finishing 10th with 8 wins wont get them for us.
Very short sighted to win some meaningless games IMHO
thats a good question and there's NEVER a definitive answer on that...did yop suggest that perhaps ESS were a contender in pre season...howsabout the swans and crows...most pundits tipped the polar opposite direction to where they cureently sit and lastly on the tiges...in the lead up to R1 the polls had us as BIGGEST improver nudging Carlton...all goes to show that things can change quite rapidly as peoples opinions seemingly do...don't be so narrow minded to be fixated on whats happening right now, need to look beyond the nose on your face to see the future :shh
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Wouldn't it just be fantastic if we won 9 out of our next 11
Sneak into the finals and well just have some thing to cheer about
:birthday :santa ;D :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :lol :rollin :birthday :santa :birthday :santa
:jump :jump :jump :jump :invasion :yep :yep :woohoo :woohoo :congrats
:eyebrow :eyebrow
It would be wouldn't it ;)
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Wouldn't it just be fantastic if we won 9 out of our next 11
Sneak into the finals and well just have some thing to cheer about
:birthday :santa ;D :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :lol :rollin :birthday :santa :birthday :santa
:jump :jump :jump :jump :invasion :yep :yep :woohoo :woohoo :congrats
:eyebrow :eyebrow
It would be wouldn't it ;)
I agree
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err, I'd third that...hell, Lets do it, follow me :gotigers :clapping :gotigers
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Wouldn't it just be fantastic if we won 9 out of our next 11
Sneak into the finals and well just have some thing to cheer about
:birthday :santa ;D :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :lol :rollin :birthday :santa :birthday :santa
:jump :jump :jump :jump :invasion :yep :yep :woohoo :woohoo :congrats
:eyebrow :eyebrow
It would be wouldn't it ;)
9th 8)
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Wouldn't it just be fantastic if we won 9 out of our next 11
Sneak into the finals and well just have some thing to cheer about
:birthday :santa ;D :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :gotigers :lol :rollin :birthday :santa :birthday :santa
:jump :jump :jump :jump :invasion :yep :yep :woohoo :woohoo :congrats
:eyebrow :eyebrow
It would be wouldn't it ;)
living in lala land again WP.
beat the eagles by 6 goals...yay!! yay!!
get smashed the week after by the Saints...
Roller coaster goes on to a 9-12th finish.
Anyone read age write up about the dees
"WE NEED ANOTHER 2 JACK WATTS TYPE PLAYERS"
smart club will be going for Butcher make no mistake about that.
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living in lala land again WP.
Daniel, Daniel... wake up and smell the coffee beans brewing
Do you have any idea what this means and I've narrowed it down for you
:jump :jump :jump :jump :invasion
A bit of fun .... you should try it :thumbsup
you know I would have thought you'd be one fo the happiest people on this forum
TW has left the building, move on
If I didn't know better I would think you actually enjoy being crap because if we actually had any form of success you'd be lost
Loosen up, sit back and enjoy the remainder of 2009... because seriously it cannot get any worse :thumbsup
:rollin ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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living in lala land again WP.
Loosen up, sit back and enjoy the remainder of 2009... because seriously it cannot get any worse :thumbsup
:rollin ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yes Wallet is gone so your right it cant get any worse in 09 but next year and beyond it can.
beating eagles with Simmo, Bowden and Brown playing doesn't make me happy, playing finals without them will.
We need to bottom out and collect another KPP not finish mid table and get dumped again.
Edited to correct quote
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beating eagles with Simmo, Bowden and Brown playing doesn't make me happy, playing finals without them will.
We need to bottom out and collect another KPP not finish mid table and get dumped again.
So Daniel are you saying that if we win 9 or 10 out of 11 while playing the kids and possibly making the finals you'd be happy?
Hmmm wonder what we'd do about a coach then ;D :thumbsup
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Well I would be because if we were truly playing kids and not guys that will be traded, discarded or retired next year it would mean we are on track to develop into a finals side.
We wont tank, we will play the list to see who has soul and which kid show potential. Starting this week with Vickery if WC play Nat.
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beating eagles with Simmo, Bowden and Brown playing doesn't make me happy, playing finals without them will.
We need to bottom out and collect another KPP not finish mid table and get dumped again.
So Daniel are you saying that if we win 9 or 10 out of 11 while playing the kids and possibly making the finals you'd be happy?
Hmmm wonder what we'd do about a coach then ;D :thumbsup
yes your damm right i would be happy.
all i want is finals and finishing 9th is as bad as finishing bottom as far as im concerned.
we went down that road last year with our "GREAT FINISH" and were fooled with our win against the Hawks into believing we were far advanced than what we actually are.