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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on June 14, 2009, 05:08:05 AM
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Yeah a bit early for this but fire away .......
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Probably no change, although maybe bring in Cogs to play against their mature midfield, or Thomson
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I really think Patto is a real worry.
his turnovers killed us last night which resulted in 2 goals in succession to the west coast.
Dont know whether to keep or not at years end
Guys on 3AW say he aint up to it,
I tend to agree.
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I really think Patto is a real worry.
his turnovers killed us last night which resulted in 2 goals in succession to the west coast.
Dont know whether to keep or not at years end
Guys on 3AW say he aint up to it,
I tend to agree.
I wanted to post this last night, I dont reckon he has a future at Richmond, must be traded end this year before he becomes worthless trade wise. Pattison was so out of sink with the rest of his mates- he just didnt look like it at all, on the other hand, Edwards showed that he can dispose of the footy well enough to play footy at the level but he needs to show more of last nights efforts until R22.
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I think we'll be a bit top heavy against the Saints.
Out: Patto
In: White
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Patto made a couple of skill errors but more than made up for it with his endevour. His second and third efforts got us acouple of goal, helped shut down Cox, and always gives his best.
I think we should keep putting games into him and make no changes unless someone is injured or young kid has a blinder at Coburg.
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What will be very interesting is whether Nathan Brown comes back into the team against the saints. :-\
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Pattison was so out of sink with the rest of his mates- he just didnt look like it at all,
you think he needs a tap on the shoulder? :lol
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Pattison was so out of sink with the rest of his mates- he just didnt look like it at all,
you think he needs a tap on the shoulder? :lol
Champagne comedy at its best Gordon :cheers
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Pattison was so out of sink with the rest of his mates- he just didnt look like it at all,
you think he needs a tap on the shoulder? :lol
Champagne comedy at its best Gordon :cheers
I thought of saying...
He went to water.
or
He got a bath last night.
But thought better of it.
:lol
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Too hot and cold :outtahere
Yep seriously Patto is the only one I would consider had a disappointing game and may be dropped if others have a good game for the Burgers next week.
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Outs: Patto, Moore (horribly out of form)
Ins: Silvestor :eyebrow, Thomson
White coming back from a hammie must come back via Coburg. The 5 dropped this week must actually play at Coburg before being considered IMHO
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I'd love to see the best full back in the VFL in the Tiger jumper too.
Go Catter.
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silvester ....please.......no f way
if moore goes out for wahtever reason POST must come in
WP ur love affair for silvester has to stop. his is an average vfl player, ok maybe a bit better than that but so is jay schulz!
silvester must never ever play for us , he is not good enough and we have our young defenders to develop as im mguane, moore, thursty, post, rance ......no room to go backwards and play silvester
moore wasnt that bad, made a couple of errors but made up for them. he has had a good yr esp considering his shoulder is rooted
thomsom cant kick so why should he get a game
we won the game with a very young team.
NO CHANGE FULL STOP
ps unless twig has the balls to drop newman
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out: edwards/patto
in: :jon :-\
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I would like to see Silvester play. I was chatting to some of the Coburg players and they say that Rawlings is a big rap for Silvester and the big cat has improved his pace and confidence this year so deserves a chance. They said that they would expect him to play in the next 2/3 weeks 8)
I would also like to see Thomson play so we can see if he will make it. No use writing him off before he has even played a senior game in the H&A season. I would like to see is his footskills are as bad as some people make them out to be around here. Thomson should come in well before Cogs - we know what Cogs has shown us so far this year :whistle
Stripes
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In Schulz Silvestor
Out Patto Moore
I would like Schulz to be given an extended crack at FF, about three games where he isn't shifted into the back line when a hole needs plugging. I dont know whether he can make it or not but I dont think he has gotten more than half a game at FF before he has been moved.
If he fails after an extended stay then fine back to Coburg for the rest of the year and then delist/trade.
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if any thing dont lose like collingwood :lol :gotigers
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In Schulz Silvestor
Out Patto Moore
I would like Schulz to be given an extended crack at FF, about three games where he isn't shifted into the back line when a hole needs plugging. I dont know whether he can make it or not but I dont think he has gotten more than half a game at FF before he has been moved.
If he fails after an extended stay then fine back to Coburg for the rest of the year and then delist/trade.
Chuck why would you take Moore out against the likes of Kosi & Riewoldt?? Schulz shot himself ages ago and should of gone before Wallace. Would like to see Silvestor have a crack but not at the expense of Moore.
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Moore is clearly carrying a bad shoulder and his form the past few weeks has been average because of it.
With the season gone, he might as well go and have surgery if needed or just take a break from playing to get the shoulder properly healed
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Moore is clearly carrying a bad shoulder and his form the past few weeks has been average because of it.
With the season gone, he might as well go and have surgery if needed or just take a break from playing to get the shoulder properly healed
Ain't that the truth. It is soooooo obvious to anyone watching you would have to wonder what reason they have for playing him.
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Moore is clearly carrying a bad shoulder and his form the past few weeks has been average because of it.
With the season gone, he might as well go and have surgery if needed or just take a break from playing to get the shoulder properly healed
So, he would still go better than Schulz, how many chances and in different positions has this bloke had, good VFL footballer. Like I said I would like to see Silvestor have a go so if Moore does get dropped then he would be my choice.
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So, he would still go better than Schulz, how many chances and in different positions has this bloke had, good VFL footballer. Like I said I would like to see Silvestor have a go so if Moore does get dropped then he would be my choice.
I didn't say anything about Schulz, I just said why I'd drop Moore
I want to see Silvestor get a chance, ditto Post before the season is out
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So, he would still go better than Schulz, how many chances and in different positions has this bloke had, good VFL footballer. Like I said I would like to see Silvestor have a go so if Moore does get dropped then he would be my choice.
I didn't say anything about Schulz, I just said why I'd drop Moore
I want to see Silvestor get a chance, ditto Post before the season is out
Couldn't agree any more on the Post call, he is a must to play and soon I hope, I forgive you about Schulz.... :shh
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wp
if we are fairdinkum about building our future, quit ur love affair with silvester
post is the only one to come in if moore is unfit
ffs silvester is not and will not be part or any future success we may have
picking siklvester in the team is going backwards, would rather joel back in the team, at least he can play
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wp
if we are fairdinkum about building our future, quit ur love affair with silvester
post is the only one to come in if moore is unfit
ffs silvester is not and will not be part or any future success we may have
picking siklvester in the team is going backwards, would rather joel back in the team, at least he can play
Settle down ;D
I have explained this a number of times. But I will again for your benefit. ;D
Firstly, when was the last time you saw Silvestor play? NAB cup this year (2009) or perhaps 2008? If your assessment is based on the 2008 NAB Cup then you have a case but his effort against Freo in the NAB this year was good, not great but good. His form for Couburg this year = outstanding
He has again improved and the areas that people have queried look like they have been improved.
With that in mind, the ONLY way we are going to see if the improvement is enough for him to be an AFL footballer if he actually plays AFL football.
He is a rookie, this is the last year he can be a rookie, so we as a club need to see if he is up to it. We have nothing to lose but guess what if he does well we actually gain.
Post is going to be there in 2010 as he has a standard 2 year contract. Ditto Gourdis. Gilligan and BrownE as they can be re-rookied.
What I want to see is the majoirty of the "untried" or borderline blokes on the list be given a couple of games so it can be assessed what they have to offer, if anything. It's called list management ;D
Like I said above and have said many times with Silvestor if we play him we have nothing to lose but a helluva lot to gain
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i agree bring in silvester.
can't see any downside to playing him or any of the marginals/kids. if they're up to it then great, if not, better draft picks await.
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wp
if we are fairdinkum about building our future, quit ur love affair with silvester
post is the only one to come in if moore is unfit
ffs silvester is not and will not be part or any future success we may have
picking siklvester in the team is going backwards, would rather joel back in the team, at least he can play
Settle down ;D
I have explained this a number of times. But I will again for your benefit. ;D
Firstly, when was the last time you saw Silvestor play? NAB cup this year (2009) or perhaps 2008? If your assessment is based on the 2008 NAB Cup then you have a case but his effort against Freo in the NAB this year was good, not great but good. His form for Couburg this year = outstanding
He has again improved and the areas that people have queried look like they have been improved.
With that in mind, the ONLY way we are going to see if the improvement is enough for him to be an AFL footballer if he actually plays AFL football.
He is a rookie, this is the last year he can be a rookie, so we as a club need to see if he is up to it. We have nothing to lose but guess what if he does well we actually gain.
Post is going to be there in 2010 as he has a standard 2 year contract. Ditto Gourdis. Gilligan and BrownE as they can be re-rookied.
What I want to see is the majoirty of the "untried" or borderline blokes on the list be given a couple of games so it can be assessed what they have to offer, if anything. It's called list management ;D
Like I said above and have said many times with Silvestor if we play him we have nothing to lose but a helluva lot to gain
im settled dont worry, just concerned about ur love for the big cat
u say his form at vfl has been outstanding, so has jay schulz
but we are building for the future now, and silvester is not part of that and never will be. post is rance is mguane is moore is and thursty if his head is right is too. no room for the big cat and he is just a good vfl player like jay .
no need to "try" him in our team when we can further and fast track the development of post
if we are going to "try" players on our rookie list , surelly gourdis and gilligan must be "tried " b4 silvester
our backline is not our concern
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im settled dont worry, just concerned about ur love for the big cat
Good ;D ;D
u say his form at vfl has been outstanding, so has jay schulz
but we are building for the future now, and silvester is not part of that and never will be.
You have actually just given a reason why Silvestor should be given a go
You are correct Schulz has been given so many chances it isn't funny but at least we know where we stand with him
Silvestor hasn't been given a chance
How can you say a player is not part of the future if he hasn't be given an opportunity at the highest level?
Isn't the next 11 weeks about opportunity and rewarding players with a team first mind set?
Post will get his opportunity. Gourdis might, Gilligan at the moment doesn't deserve it. But Silvestor deserve a chance - if he fails I'll be the first to say thanks but no thanks
Will repeat again - nothing to lose, lots to gain
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I still dont know whether Schulz has been given four qtrs in a row and kept at FF in a while (dont think its happended in 2009 or 2008).
He has played under Jade before in a team that has a tall structure and as such he may be worth a go under Jade's "game plan".
So many have bagged out TW's gameplan and how it didn't play to our teams advantage, I just reckon it would be worth it to give Schulz a go as FF but kept there for at least one full game.
Anyway best judge of that will be Jade as he has coached Schulz a fair bit at Coburg
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what has happened to Dean Putt?
when does these players contracts expire?
Dean Putt
Graham Polak
Jay Schulz
Jake King
Jordan McMahon
Cleve Hughes
Mark Coughlan
Shane Tuck
Tom Hislop
Shane Edwards
Adam Pattison
Jarrard Oakley-Nicholls
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what has happened to Dean Putt?
when does these players contracts expire?
http://oneeyed-richmond.com/forum//index.php?topic=9436.msg144225#msg144225
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thank you 'wayne'.
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I work with a very passionate Saint supporter.
They'll win by ten goals without raising a sweat he tells me and if they do bother to raise a sweat, the margin will be 20 goals.
This may very well be true :lol BUT as per the last 3 years, this is the team I want to beat most.
Wouldn't it be nice them going into the Cats match with a loss against their name and Jade Rawlings 2 for 2.
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I work with a very passionate Saint supporter.
They'll win by ten goals without raising a sweat he tells me and if they do bother to raise a sweat, the margin will be 20 goals.
This may very well be true :lol BUT as per the last 3 years, this is the team I want to beat most.
Wouldn't it be nice them going into the Cats match with a loss against their name and Jade Rawlings 2 for 2.
I would say wayne that our only hope is if the saints are totally consumed with their round 14 clash with Geelong and dont "come to play"
Start agreeing with your mate that they can win by 20 goals so you can give him crap if they only win by 5. :lol
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NO CHANGE!!!
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NO CHANGE!!!
Agree after the rubbish we saw today :P.
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Should someone apologise to all the Coburg supporters?
:yep
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Should someone apologise to all the Coburg supporters?
:yep
Agree, the Richmond players were disgraceful
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On the flip side I have to give Gary Ayres a wrap, he cetainly has a stand alone team playing for each other and doing the 1%ers.
Know many laughed at his trumpet blowing can win a flag at Richmond within 4 years! But not a bad coach and got an average (imo) side playing great team footy.
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Should someone apologise to all the Coburg supporters?
:yep
Agree, the Richmond players were disgraceful
Yep not much team first mentality out there yesterday
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It would be good to see Aryes given an assistant coach job at the club but I doubt he would accept this. I think he would actual make a good coach... :shh
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I liked the way Ayres talked to his players. The instructions were clear and he new what he wanted. Ayres seems to me to desperately want to get back into the AFL system. Hed probably accept a job doing player development coaching of youngsters - and thats were he could help us.
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In the mix: round 13
afl.com.au
Richmond
Despite several senior players being dropped back to the VFL, nobody playing for Coburg did enough to demand a spot in the senior team. With debutant Tyrone Vickery playing well against the Eagles, the Tigers selection committee has a winning team that needs no changes. After a week’s break, all should be fresh and raring to go. Young defender Will Thursfield was quiet, but it was only his third game since coming back into the side.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/79243/default.aspx