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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: mightytiges on July 11, 2009, 04:15:12 PM

Title: Goalkicking
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2009, 04:15:12 PM
So much for being professional footballers  ::)  :banghead. 

Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: wayne on July 11, 2009, 04:18:10 PM
Riewoldt's technique looks fine, but he sprays them.

Morton always gets way too close to the man on the mark!!  :banghead
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: bojangles17 on July 11, 2009, 04:56:02 PM
Riewoldt's technique looks fine, but he sprays them.

Morton always gets way too close to the man on the mark!!  :banghead

JRs on the improve he's gone from 33% to 50%...too bloody ordinary he needs to be strung up for his efforts :o
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2009, 05:16:08 PM
They've got to hold the ball still and straight. They hold the ball like they always going for bananas even when directly in front  :P.
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: Lozza on July 11, 2009, 05:34:48 PM
Sorry to be ignorant but can anyone let me know who the goalkicking coach is at the RFC? That is assuming we have one, going on today's effort Richo might be helping out while he is rehabilitating. Why is it all the fans and the commentators can see where these guys are going wrong yet the tiger coaches cant seem to correct the deficiencies. It amazes me that these so called professional footballers who live the game 24/7 cannot kick goals from 25 metres dead in front.

Hypothetical - the Tigers take a mark 30 metres out dead in front, the player taking the mark is injured and cannot take the kick, the full time siren sounds, we are one point behind......who do you give the ball to?
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: Danog on July 11, 2009, 05:56:33 PM
Newman or Tuck.
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: Lozza on July 11, 2009, 06:02:55 PM
Newman or Tuck.
Not a bad choice Danog, problem being that neither are permanent forwards, i bet there wouldn't be too many other clubs given the same hypothetical who wouldnt have a forward in their top 2 choices.
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: Infamy on July 11, 2009, 06:04:14 PM
Hypothetical - the Tigers take a mark 30 metres out dead in front, the player taking the mark is injured and cannot take the kick, the full time siren sounds, we are one point behind......who do you give the ball to?
Shane Tuck, he's a great set shot for goal inside 50

wayne - Luke Darcy was very critical of Riewoldt's set shot technique on the Ch10 broadcast. There was similar critisism of Morton's set shot technique as he was holding the ball like he was going to snap it. Whoever is our goal kicking coach should be looking for a job.
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2009, 06:31:46 PM
I don't think we have a specialised goalkicking coach. Royal was our forward line coach until Plough got the stuff. Rawlings has got Dermie down to the Club to help with our forwards the past couple of weeks. The problem with goalkicking and not just at the RFC is at training it's an afterthought. The fitness and conditioning staff don't like players doing say 100 kicks at goal from various angles because they consider it too much workload on top of the players normal training and playing. That way of thinking is just wrong for such a crucial part of the game that is the difference between winning and losing.

Jack's problem at the moment is when he runs in he swings both his arms like a pendulum and the ball is still 'swinging' as it comes down onto his boot. It's russian roulette where the ball will contact the kicking foot. He's got to get on the training track and teach himself to hold the ball still as possible so the ball contacts the middle of his foot. He's also got to get into the gym to work on his leg muscles. He struggles from 40m+ out which isn't good enough at this level. Newy would also tell him to work on his non-dominant handpassing so his teammates don't get cleaned up.

As for Morton he just needs to hold the ball conventionally and not kick every kick at goal like he's going for a banana.
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 11, 2009, 07:22:25 PM

Hypothetical - the Tigers take a mark 30 metres out dead in front, the player taking the mark is injured and cannot take the kick, the full time siren sounds, we are one point behind......who do you give the ball to?

Deledio with no shadow of a doubt. Best set shot in the side easily................
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: mightytiges on July 11, 2009, 07:48:28 PM
Hypothetical - the Tigers take a mark 30 metres out dead in front, the player taking the mark is injured and cannot take the kick, the full time siren sounds, we are one point behind......who do you give the ball to?
Bowden  :-\
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: wayne on July 11, 2009, 08:45:30 PM
wayne - Luke Darcy was very critical of Riewoldt's set shot technique on the Ch10 broadcast. There was similar critisism of Morton's set shot technique as he was holding the ball like he was going to snap it. Whoever is our goal kicking coach should be looking for a job.

Didn't hear that.

I think Jack's technique though is something that can be fixed easily.
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 11, 2009, 10:02:11 PM
Jackand Mitch spin the ball in their hands right up until release, that cant be good! Mitch goes too far back and then dawdles in, losing sight of where he is! Just a couple of observations from a bush hack good/ordinary footballer who spent most his career down back!
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: Smokey on July 12, 2009, 11:17:32 AM

Hypothetical - the Tigers take a mark 30 metres out dead in front, the player taking the mark is injured and cannot take the kick, the full time siren sounds, we are one point behind......who do you give the ball to?

Pettifer and Bowden are our best set shots for goal.
Title: Richmond - second worst team for set shots at goal from 30-50m out (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on July 29, 2009, 03:40:18 AM
From the Herald-Sun........... We're the second worst side for conversion from 30-50m out from goal  :P

Set shots 30-50m

Bulldogs 72.1 per cent accuracy

Port Adelaide 65.3

St Kilda 64.0

Sydney 62.6

Brisbane 62.5

Essendon 60.7

Adelaide 60.0

North Melbourne 58.5

Fremantle 56.4

Carlton 56.4

Collingwood 56.0

Melbourne 55.4

Hawthorn 55.1

West Coast 54.0

Richmond 50.4

Geelong 48.2

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25849994-19742,00.html
Title: Re: Richmond - second worst team for set shots at goal from 30-50m out (Herald-Sun)
Post by: HD on July 29, 2009, 08:30:59 AM
From the Herald-Sun........... We're the second worst side for conversion from 30-50m out from goal  :P

Set shots 30-50m


Richmond 50.4

Geelong 48.2

Not overly worried then - If #16 for this stat is the current #2 and made the grand final the last 2 years running and looks set to do it again this year, why worry ;D No more set shots - snaps and bananas for everyone! Drag 'em for going back to take a shot - kind of the reversal of TW's "Richo-No-Playing-On-Inside-50" rule :lol
Title: Re: Goalkicking
Post by: Optimus Tige on July 29, 2009, 09:11:06 AM
Morton stands to upright when he's kicking for goal, which lends itself to leaning back on impact which causes him to spray it a fair bit, also if you watch someone like Fev or Aker they hold the ball still and over their kicking leg. Morton needs to take his eyes off the goals and focus on the ball drop more, his snapping for goal is great but is only effective from the one pocket.

 Overall the team lacks poise when it's time to capitalize on the momentum, I think that's what Cousins would have been drilling into them at half time.