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Title: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on July 23, 2009, 10:43:27 PM
Hutch said tonight that Joel has been told by the RFC that he won't be offered a new contract for next year. So he won't be going on at Richmond.

The Sunday Footy Show have interviewed Rawlings and he said Joel deserved a farewell game. He's probably shown his hand on Joel but Joel has been very good at Coburg. Jade said he gets on well with Joel and the Bowden family. More from the interview on Sunday.
Title: Re: All over for Joel Bowden
Post by: mightytiges on July 23, 2009, 11:17:51 PM
Not a surprise. The fact Joel was once again ignored at match committee despite being best for Coburg showed the club thinks his time is up. Not sure why Joel came out recently saying he wanted to go on though. The decision was made earlier this season.

Farewell game in round 20 against Collingwood apparently.

264 games, two B&Fs and AA CHB. Well done Joel on being a great servant of the club  :clapping. Sad he broke his collarbones when he was younger and was never played in a more natural position for him as a forward IMO. He was practically forced to go back and play in defence on bigger opponents thanks to Spud and Becks non-existent recruiting leaving us with no ready-made 20-something key defenders except for an aging Gas and Chubba ::).

Two over 30s gone. It won't be a surprise if Simmo is next to announce his retirement.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: one-eyed on July 24, 2009, 03:11:26 PM
Here's the video of Hutchy last night. The stuff on Buckley is near the start. Joel's retirement is mentioned towards the end.

http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx?videoid=00abb8e1-8ca7-4b5a-8cf9-9cad72dc8264 (http://wwos.ninemsn.com.au/video.aspx?videoid=00abb8e1-8ca7-4b5a-8cf9-9cad72dc8264)
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 24, 2009, 06:25:31 PM
His career might be over at Richmond but clubs are already asking about his services for next season
Letting a player like Bowden go early is a huge mistake.
keeping injured players around the club like Ottens, Coughlan, Brown, Richo, & others while Joel busts his gut playing the undersized backman.
Players are sitting around being paid big money & still get to stay at the club is beyond me & the loyalty of the Richmond football club a disgrace
is the reason why people are dropping out of the coaching race because March & Free are destroying the floorboards & no-one wants to stay around while they are there  :rollin
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 24, 2009, 07:17:08 PM
His career might be over at Richmond but clubs are already asking about his services for next season
Letting a player like Bowden go early is a huge mistake.
keeping injured players around the club like Ottens, Coughlan, Brown, Richo, & others while Joel busts his gut playing the undersized backman.
Players are sitting around being paid big money & still get to stay at the club is beyond me & the loyalty of the Richmond football club a disgrace
is the reason why people are dropping out of the coaching race because March & Free are destroying the floorboards & no-one wants to stay around while they are there  :rollin


Ottens left at the end of 2004 :thumbsup
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 24, 2009, 07:24:32 PM
Is this official? Or just heresay?
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: mightytiges on July 24, 2009, 07:44:47 PM
Is this official? Or just heresay?
Hutchy said it so take your pick GR. Unofficial is probably the actual answer. Jade said he believes Joel deserves a farewell game. I'd expect Joel to announce his retirement in timing with round 20 and his testimonial.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 24, 2009, 07:50:46 PM
Cheers,MT!
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Moi on July 24, 2009, 08:33:52 PM
His career might be over at Richmond but clubs are already asking about his services for next season

If he's any good, we'll see some great offers then won't we?
Somehow I don't think that'll happen.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: mightytiges on July 24, 2009, 08:49:35 PM
His career might be over at Richmond but clubs are already asking about his services for next season

If he's any good, we'll see some great offers then won't we?
Somehow I don't think that'll happen.

Like Tivas last year who put his name in the draft but didn't get picked up.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: 3rogerd on July 24, 2009, 09:58:55 PM
His career might be over at Richmond but clubs are already asking about his services for next season
Letting a player like Bowden go early is a huge mistake.
keeping injured players around the club like Ottens, Coughlan, Brown, Richo, & others while Joel busts his gut playing the undersized backman.
Players are sitting around being paid big money & still get to stay at the club is beyond me & the loyalty of the Richmond football club a disgrace
is the reason why people are dropping out of the coaching race because March & Free are destroying the floorboards & no-one wants to stay around while they are there  :rollin

 :lol
Title: Re: All over for Joel Bowden
Post by: 1980 on July 24, 2009, 10:31:18 PM
Not a surprise. The fact Joel was once again ignored at match committee despite being best for Coburg showed the club thinks his time is up. Not sure why Joel came out recently saying he wanted to go on though. The decision was made earlier this season.

Farewell game in round 20 against Collingwood apparently.

264 games, two B&Fs and AA CHB. Well done Joel on being a great servant of the club  :clapping. Sad he broke his collarbones when he was younger and was never played in a more natural position for him as a forward IMO. He was practically forced to go back and play in defence on bigger opponents thanks to Spud and Becks non-existent recruiting leaving us with no ready-made 20-something key defenders except for an aging Gas and Chubba ::).

Two over 30s gone. It won't be a surprise if Simmo is next to announce his retirement.

Interesting. What did his collarbones have to do with being moved down back?
Title: Re: All over for Joel Bowden
Post by: mightytiges on July 24, 2009, 11:01:33 PM
Not a surprise. The fact Joel was once again ignored at match committee despite being best for Coburg showed the club thinks his time is up. Not sure why Joel came out recently saying he wanted to go on though. The decision was made earlier this season.

Farewell game in round 20 against Collingwood apparently.

264 games, two B&Fs and AA CHB. Well done Joel on being a great servant of the club  :clapping. Sad he broke his collarbones when he was younger and was never played in a more natural position for him as a forward IMO. He was practically forced to go back and play in defence on bigger opponents thanks to Spud and Becks non-existent recruiting leaving us with no ready-made 20-something key defenders except for an aging Gas and Chubba ::).

Two over 30s gone. It won't be a surprise if Simmo is next to announce his retirement.

Interesting. What did his collarbones have to do with being moved down back?

Nothing as he was moved back later in his career as a band-aid to cover our lack of genuine key defenders. What I meant was after he broke his collarbone as a youngster he appeared to become more protective of himself. He became more of an outside player in the midfield which supporters heavily criticized him for calling him soft. When he first started he didn't mind the hard stuff inside. He looked like he could be anything before he broke it  :(. I think those collarbone injuries took him a number of years to mentally get over. Spud tried him up forward a couple of times only but he had brainfades which altered the momentum of both games and I guess Spud scrapped that idea. He should have been persisted with up there IMO. We lacked dangerous forwards apart from talls Richo and Otto. Spud recruited Hudson and Houlihan instead at the expense of genuine quality mids we needed as well :P.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 24, 2009, 11:39:57 PM
His career might be over at Richmond but clubs are already asking about his services for next season
Letting a player like Bowden go early is a huge mistake.
keeping injured players around the club like Ottens, Coughlan, Brown, Richo, & others while Joel busts his gut playing the undersized backman.
Players are sitting around being paid big money & still get to stay at the club is beyond me & the loyalty of the Richmond football club a disgrace
is the reason why people are dropping out of the coaching race because March & Free are destroying the floorboards & no-one wants to stay around while they are there  :rollin

Monk, quit reading my emails  :lol :lol
You are 100% correct about the coaches dropping off. Buckley has openly said Richmond are a basket case.
The Bowden thing is of interest.
They have planned a send off game against Collingwood with a dinner that night .
Mail is they have tried to get some of the players to the function that he was close with. One in particular is Andrew Krakouer, although he cant get permission for leave.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 25, 2009, 12:34:37 AM
what they have done to joel is a fair dinkum disgrace

okay well we have tried Hislop, Mcmahon and its clear they are not our future.

Now for that matter neither is Joel so why wouldnt you reward a great club player with a game here or there in his final year.

He has been hung out to dry Joel has while other reserve grade players get a game.

RFC= NFI
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on July 25, 2009, 01:23:53 AM
The only reason I could possible say Richmond has NFI is the fact they let Bowden play two seasons too many
Should have traded or delisted him years ago
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 08:11:02 AM
what they have done to joel is a fair dinkum disgrace

okay well we have tried Hislop, Mcmahon and its clear they are not our future.

Now for that matter neither is Joel so why wouldnt you reward a great club player with a game here or there in his final year.

He has been hung out to dry Joel has while other reserve grade players get a game.

RFC= NFI

TOTALLY AGREE
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 25, 2009, 08:57:57 AM
The only reason I could possible say Richmond has NFI is the fact they let Bowden play two seasons too many
Should have traded or delisted him years ago

you got no idea at all
Bowden would be in the top 22 players at any club today & why would they not first get rid of broken Nathan Brown, Mark Coughlan, Pettifer, than play someone who is value to the football club & has been for so many years is beyond me. This just proves to me that Richmond have the wrong people in control & that jade Rawlings is not a coaches ass & has no idea. He was put in place as coach cause none of the others would tank which the club has been doing for many years.
The reason they never traded Bowden years ago is because a player of his quality is hard to find & he would hurt the RFC playing against them.
Watch next year when his playing for another club
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 09:45:12 AM
it just shows what a joke of a club we really are
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Ramps on July 25, 2009, 09:51:42 AM
If we appoint Rawlings we will stay in the wilderness for years to come. Just because he comes across as impressive in the media just like the plough doesnt mean that Rawlings can coach long term. Theres way better candidates than Rawlings.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Moi on July 25, 2009, 10:33:58 AM
it just shows what a joke of a club we really are
You got rid of Terry, you should be happy
But you're determined to run the club into the ground until they close the doors and call it quits aren't you
You're a disgrace  :banghead
You never stop stuffing whinging  :wallywink
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 25, 2009, 10:36:18 AM
it just shows what a joke of a club we really are
Why do you follow Richmond?  :(
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: WilliamPowell on July 25, 2009, 11:07:51 AM
Watch next year when his playing for another club

Well come back Monk  ;D - or should I call you Lance Armstrong the comeback king  :thumbsup

I actually don't think Joel will play for another club simply because Joel Bowden loves the RFC - despite all its faults.

Well at least the Joel Bowden I have spoken to many times certainly does  :thumbsup
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 11:34:56 AM
it just shows what a joke of a club we really are
You got rid of Terry, you should be happy
But you're determined to run the club into the ground until they close the doors and call it quits aren't you
You're a disgrace  :banghead
You never stop effing whinging  :wallywink

The club dont need me to run them selves into the ground, they are doing a pretty good job themselves dont you think.
Fancy dropping Shane Tuck ::) The only player who shows some balls and stands up to the opposition
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 11:35:55 AM
it just shows what a joke of a club we really are
Why do you follow Richmond?  :(

I will be there tomorrow, WILL YOU ?
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Moi on July 25, 2009, 11:46:16 AM
it just shows what a joke of a club we really are
Why do you follow Richmond?  :(

I will be there tomorrow, WILL YOU ?
He just posted he lives in NSW, so you bring out this
Gonna get him on a technicality are you?
You're such a hero lol
 :wallywink
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 25, 2009, 12:31:33 PM
it just shows what a joke of a club we really are
Why do you follow Richmond?  :(

I will be there tomorrow, WILL YOU ?
He just posted he lives in NSW, so you bring out this
Gonna get him on a technicality are you?
You're such a hero lol
 :wallywink
Thank You Froars!
Jack, i will not be there tomorrow but i do make it to about 6 games a year and after fuel and food and maybe a night out it can cost me and my family 200 bucks a trip! But anyway, i dont need to attend games to support my club. I buy a membership each season even though i never get to use the benefits it brings, it is my donation. I also show support by remaining positive, loyal and by not slagging them off in times of hardship and by treating players, officials, coaches and fellow supporters as a human and with the dignity and respect that everyone is automatically entitiled to. If i disagree with a fellow poster i will respond evenly, with thought and respect. I believe most others do the same! That is what true supporters do and is why i for the most part love participating in this forum!
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Moi on July 25, 2009, 12:35:59 PM
it just shows what a joke of a club we really are
Why do you follow Richmond?  :(

I will be there tomorrow, WILL YOU ?
He just posted he lives in NSW, so you bring out this
Gonna get him on a technicality are you?
You're such a hero lol
 :wallywink
Thank You Froars!
Jack, i will not be there tomorrow but i do make it to about 6 games a year and after fuel and food and maybe a night out it can cost me and my family 200 bucks a trip! But anyway, i dont need to attend games to support my club. I buy a membership each season even though i never get to use the benefits it brings, it is my donation. I also show support by remaining positive, loyal and by not slagging them off in times of hardship and by treating players, officials, coaches and fellow supporters as a human and with the dignity and respect that everyone is automatically entitiled to. If i disagree with a fellow poster i will respond evenly, with thought and respect. I believe most others do the same! That is what true supporters do and is why i for the most part love participating in this forum!
Beautifully said, but will be unfortunately wasted because there's not much in there Jack would understand
Loyalty, respect, support - foreign words to some  ;)
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on July 25, 2009, 02:03:01 PM
it just shows what a joke of a club we really are
Why do you follow Richmond?  :(

I will be there tomorrow, WILL YOU ?
He just posted he lives in NSW, so you bring out this
Gonna get him on a technicality are you?
You're such a hero lol
 :wallywink
Thank You Froars!
Jack, i will not be there tomorrow but i do make it to about 6 games a year and after fuel and food and maybe a night out it can cost me and my family 200 bucks a trip! But anyway, i dont need to attend games to support my club. I buy a membership each season even though i never get to use the benefits it brings, it is my donation. I also show support by remaining positive, loyal and by not slagging them off in times of hardship and by treating players, officials, coaches and fellow supporters as a human and with the dignity and respect that everyone is automatically entitiled to. If i disagree with a fellow poster i will respond evenly, with thought and respect. I believe most others do the same! That is what true supporters do and is why i for the most part love participating in this forum!
Great post, Jack could learn a few things about these comments. Shame it will just go right over his head.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 25, 2009, 02:23:20 PM
Thanks Guys! I am however no different to any other Tiger fan really. Regardless of distance, our fans on the whole are a pretty loyal bunch and to maintain the membership base we have is a credit to all supporters, young and old! Well done and keep it up!
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 02:50:50 PM
remain postive hey, remained postive for 29 years, LOL
Remain positive when we have seen coaches come and go and walk away with inflated salaries $$$$$$$$$$$$
Yep, you keep donating to the Terry Wallaces of the world and you keep supporting the clowns that run the place.
Yep you keep supporting people who CONTINUALLY make the wrong decsions in recruiting ( How is Thomson and Hislop going ??) and trade draft picks for the Jordon McMahons out there, who actualy doubled his salary by moving clubs. :banghead :banghead
Tell you this, LOYALTY gets you know where
Just ask Joel Bowden. :banghead
And why is Shane Tuck wasting his time playing at Coburg when he should be at the G tomorrow playing on Jobe Watson.  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead. 
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 25, 2009, 02:54:58 PM
remain postive hey, remained postive for 29 years, LOL
Remain positive when we have seen coaches come and go and walk away with inflated salaries $$$$$$$$$$$$
Yep, you keep donating to the Terry Wallaces of the world and you keep supporting the clowns that run the place.
Yep you keep supporting people who CONTINUALLY make the wrong decsions in recruiting ( How is Thomson and Hislop going ??) and trade draft picks for the Jordon McMahons out there, who actualy doubled his salary by moving clubs. :banghead :banghead
Tell you this, LOYALTY gets you know where
Just ask Joel Bowden. :banghead
And why is Shane Tuck wasting his time playing at Coburg when he should be at the tomorrow playing on Jobe Watson.  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead. 
Wrong Jack, loyalty gets you the hardest thing in the world to earn, respect! Spud on inflated salary, Geisch?
Sloppy is 19  and improving every game! Shane Tuck and Bowden are currently displaying the reason why they are in the twos.....no impact!
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 03:01:25 PM
You must be joking
You must think we are some success story.
WE AINT
Joel Bowden has been made a scapegoat, walk up start at most other clubs
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 03:03:05 PM
As for Shane Tuck, its a disgrace that he is playing at Coburg, really.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 25, 2009, 03:03:46 PM
You must be joking
You must think we are some success story.
WE AINT
Joel Bowden has been made a scapegoat, walk up start at most other clubs

Im not joking but you are entitled to your opinion! It is forum and good luck to you!
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 03:11:05 PM
Lets see how many games we win for the season shell we.
Yet another WASTED year,
I cant remember any team getting beaten by 15 goals in an opening round,can you ?
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 25, 2009, 03:12:38 PM
Lets see how many games we win for the season shell we.
Yet another WASTED year,
I cant remember any team getting beaten by 15 goals in an opening round,can you ?
Jack, i hear your pain! You have your opinions and you obviously feel strongly about them!
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 03:24:12 PM
very actually, as I am sick and tired of people applauding people who aint doing there job.
As you know, Wallace was disgrace for the past 3 years but people still were sticking up for him after round 8 this year, please.
I actually feel sorry for Joel Bowden, as he has been made scapegoat for the bad decisions the club has repeatedly made
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 25, 2009, 03:43:12 PM
The only reason I could possible say Richmond has NFI is the fact they let Bowden play two seasons too many
Should have traded or delisted him years ago

are you okay???

this is a one man player. a guy who has played over 200 games and has been used and abused and not to mention played out of position all his bloody life aka Richo.

i dare say you werent saying that when it he singelhandedly won games for us in the past seasons.

whats more baffling about your comments is you say "we should have delisted him years ago" hahaha what a joke

Bowden should never be delisted while hacks like Schulz, Mclovin and Petrified still occupy a heartbeat. In fact i apologise to Bowden for ever mentioning his name in the same sentence as those other hacks

Bowden in a forward line would have killed it for us but our footy club has yes thats right NFI because we have useless defenders in the past and Bowden was used to fill that need back there.

he is a natural footballer and has the best skills in our team make no mistake about that

Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on July 25, 2009, 03:49:24 PM
We tried playing Joel forward and he didn't kill it because he is slow, selfish and soft
He's lost us just as many games playing negative sideways football that we've got over run by teams playing attacking football
He's been a liability for 2 years now
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 03:51:14 PM
Its very obvious to alot of people that Joel should of been played down forward this year, but no, the PUNT RD brains trust  know better :banghead
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 25, 2009, 03:52:53 PM
We tried playing Joel forward and he didn't kill it because he is slow, selfish and soft
He's lost us just as many games playing negative sideways football that we've got over run by teams playing attacking football
He's been a liability for 2 years now

Infamy RFC has been there own liability for 2 years.

it wouldn't bother me if we got rid of Bowden but there is no way you would ever let him go before those others i cant stand remain on the list.

There are many players who need to go before him that are not our future and they are mush younger than him

Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Moi on July 25, 2009, 03:55:06 PM
remain postive hey, remained postive for 29 years, LOL
Remain positive when we have seen coaches come and go and walk away with inflated salaries $$$$$$$$$$$$
Yep, you keep donating to the Terry Wallaces of the world and you keep supporting the clowns that run the place.
Yep you keep supporting people who CONTINUALLY make the wrong decsions in recruiting ( How is Thomson and Hislop going ??) and trade draft picks for the Jordon McMahons out there, who actualy doubled his salary by moving clubs. :banghead :banghead
Tell you this, LOYALTY gets you know where
Just ask Joel Bowden. :banghead
And why is Shane Tuck wasting his time playing at Coburg when he should be at the G tomorrow playing on Jobe Watson.  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead. 
Stop your whining
You wanted a new coach, you got him
Live with it
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 03:57:26 PM
remain postive hey, remained postive for 29 years, LOL
Remain positive when we have seen coaches come and go and walk away with inflated salaries $$$$$$$$$$$$
Yep, you keep donating to the Terry Wallaces of the world and you keep supporting the clowns that run the place.
Yep you keep supporting people who CONTINUALLY make the wrong decsions in recruiting ( How is Thomson and Hislop going ??) and trade draft picks for the Jordon McMahons out there, who actualy doubled his salary by moving clubs. :banghead :banghead
Tell you this, LOYALTY gets you know where
Just ask Joel Bowden. :banghead
And why is Shane Tuck wasting his time playing at Coburg when he should be at the G tomorrow playing on Jobe Watson.  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead. 
Stop your whining
You wanted a new coach, you got him
Live with it

 ::)
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: 1965 on July 25, 2009, 03:57:48 PM
remain postive hey, remained postive for 29 years, LOL
Remain positive when we have seen coaches come and go and walk away with inflated salaries $$$$$$$$$$$$
Yep, you keep donating to the Terry Wallaces of the world and you keep supporting the clowns that run the place.
Yep you keep supporting people who CONTINUALLY make the wrong decsions in recruiting ( How is Thomson and Hislop going ??) and trade draft picks for the Jordon McMahons out there, who actualy doubled his salary by moving clubs. :banghead :banghead
Tell you this, LOYALTY gets you know where
Just ask Joel Bowden. :banghead
And why is Shane Tuck wasting his time playing at Coburg when he should be at the G tomorrow playing on Jobe Watson.  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead. 
Stop your whining
You wanted a new coach, you got him
Live with it

Haven't quite got our new coach yet.

 :chuck
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Moi on July 25, 2009, 04:00:23 PM
remain postive hey, remained postive for 29 years, LOL
Remain positive when we have seen coaches come and go and walk away with inflated salaries $$$$$$$$$$$$
Yep, you keep donating to the Terry Wallaces of the world and you keep supporting the clowns that run the place.
Yep you keep supporting people who CONTINUALLY make the wrong decsions in recruiting ( How is Thomson and Hislop going ??) and trade draft picks for the Jordon McMahons out there, who actualy doubled his salary by moving clubs. :banghead :banghead
Tell you this, LOYALTY gets you know where
Just ask Joel Bowden. :banghead
And why is Shane Tuck wasting his time playing at Coburg when he should be at the G tomorrow playing on Jobe Watson.  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead. 
Stop your whining
You wanted a new coach, you got him
Live with it

Haven't quite got our new coach yet.

 :chuck
Doesn't stop the whinging though  :wallywink
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: 1965 on July 25, 2009, 04:01:22 PM
remain postive hey, remained postive for 29 years, LOL
Remain positive when we have seen coaches come and go and walk away with inflated salaries $$$$$$$$$$$$
Yep, you keep donating to the Terry Wallaces of the world and you keep supporting the clowns that run the place.
Yep you keep supporting people who CONTINUALLY make the wrong decsions in recruiting ( How is Thomson and Hislop going ??) and trade draft picks for the Jordon McMahons out there, who actualy doubled his salary by moving clubs. :banghead :banghead
Tell you this, LOYALTY gets you know where
Just ask Joel Bowden. :banghead
And why is Shane Tuck wasting his time playing at Coburg when he should be at the G tomorrow playing on Jobe Watson.  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead. 
Stop your whining
You wanted a new coach, you got him
Live with it

Haven't quite got our new coach yet.

 :chuck
Doesn't stop the whinging though  :wallywink

 :chuck
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 04:04:12 PM
 :chuck :chuck :thatsgold :woohoo
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: mightytiges on July 25, 2009, 04:08:07 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 04:11:23 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.

mate , footy is a simple game.
Play Joel Inside F 50 and kick it to him , he wont need to chip the ball 10 metres :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 25, 2009, 04:16:56 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.

mate , footy is a simple game.
Play Joel Inside F 50 and kick it to him , he wont need to chip the ball 10 metres :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
So youre saying he is a one trick pony then? What good is that?
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 04:21:24 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.

mate , footy is a simple game.
Play Joel Inside F 50 and kick it to him , he wont need to chip the ball 10 metres :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
So youre saying he is a one trick pony then? What good is that?

I just about give up with this website ::)
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Moi on July 25, 2009, 04:27:35 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.

mate , footy is a simple game.
Play Joel Inside F 50 and kick it to him , he wont need to chip the ball 10 metres :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
So youre saying he is a one trick pony then? What good is that?

I just about give up with this website ::)
That's very weak of you Jack
It was a good question
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: 1965 on July 25, 2009, 04:31:37 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.

mate , footy is a simple game.
Play Joel Inside F 50 and kick it to him , he wont need to chip the ball 10 metres :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
So youre saying he is a one trick pony then? What good is that?

I just about give up with this website ::)
That's very weak of you Jack
It was a good question

 :chuck
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 04:52:08 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.

mate , footy is a simple game.
Play Joel Inside F 50 and kick it to him , he wont need to chip the ball 10 metres :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
So youre saying he is a one trick pony then? What good is that?

I just about give up with this website ::)
That's very weak of you Jack
It was a good question

poo questions, arguing with Nuffers :banghead
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 25, 2009, 04:58:54 PM
Watch next year when his playing for another club

Well come back Monk  ;D - or should I call you Lance Armstrong the comeback king  :thumbsup

I actually don't think Joel will play for another club simply because Joel Bowden loves the RFC - despite all its faults.

Well at least the Joel Bowden I have spoken to many times certainly does  :thumbsup

Thanks l needed the break 
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 25, 2009, 05:00:56 PM
it just shows what a joke of a club we really are
You got rid of Terry, you should be happy
But you're determined to run the club into the ground until they close the doors and call it quits aren't you
You're a disgrace  :banghead
You never stop effing whinging  :wallywink

The club dont need me to run them selves into the ground, they are doing a pretty good job themselves dont you think.
Fancy dropping Shane Tuck ::) The only player who shows some balls and stands up to the opposition

l'm stumped about Tuck being dropped as is all the football media
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: mightytiges on July 25, 2009, 05:05:10 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.

mate , footy is a simple game.
Play Joel Inside F 50 and kick it to him , he wont need to chip the ball 10 metres :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
10 years too late for that Jack. Too late now he's over 30 and has slowed down. At that age and "form" he's not part of the future. Time for people to accept that.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 25, 2009, 05:14:31 PM
We tried playing Joel forward and he didn't kill it because he is slow, selfish and soft
He's lost us just as many games playing negative sideways football that we've got over run by teams playing attacking football
He's been a liability for 2 years now

liability excuse me ??  what for playing football in a team that coaching staff never wanted to win games . How is he responsible for loses when coaches are tanking. Footballers get tired after recruiting has failed year after year from incompetant staff
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 05:16:04 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.

mate , footy is a simple game.
Play Joel Inside F 50 and kick it to him , he wont need to chip the ball 10 metres :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
10 years too late for that Jack. Too late now he's over 30 and has slowed down. At that age and "form" he's not part of the future. Time for people to accept that.

Didnt say he was part of the future, all I have stated is the bleeding OBVIOUS, play him inside F 50.
Hit up forward.
One out in goal sqaure, he is an extremely smart footballer.
Am still trying to work out how Tucky got dropped.
This club is been ruined by idiots
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 25, 2009, 05:16:08 PM
remain postive hey, remained postive for 29 years, LOL
Remain positive when we have seen coaches come and go and walk away with inflated salaries $$$$$$$$$$$$
Yep, you keep donating to the Terry Wallaces of the world and you keep supporting the clowns that run the place.
Yep you keep supporting people who CONTINUALLY make the wrong decsions in recruiting ( How is Thomson and Hislop going ??) and trade draft picks for the Jordon McMahons out there, who actualy doubled his salary by moving clubs. :banghead :banghead
Tell you this, LOYALTY gets you know where
Just ask Joel Bowden. :banghead
And why is Shane Tuck wasting his time playing at Coburg when he should be at the G tomorrow playing on Jobe Watson.  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead. 
Stop your whining
You wanted a new coach, you got him
Live with it

haha Rawlings a new coach please his a scapegoat
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 25, 2009, 05:22:18 PM
the club is ruined Jack. Dropping Tuck done my head in. Everyone was laughing at me at football today about Richmond not wanting thier good players & keeping players that are always broken
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 05:22:46 PM
We tried playing Joel forward and he didn't kill it because he is slow, selfish and soft
He's lost us just as many games playing negative sideways football that we've got over run by teams playing attacking football
He's been a liability for 2 years now

liability excuse me ??  what for playing football in a team that coaching staff never wanted to win games . How is he responsible for loses when coaches are tanking. Footballers get tired after recruiting has failed year after year from incompetant staff

Thank you Tigermonk
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: mightytiges on July 25, 2009, 06:01:04 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.

mate , footy is a simple game.
Play Joel Inside F 50 and kick it to him , he wont need to chip the ball 10 metres :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
10 years too late for that Jack. Too late now he's over 30 and has slowed down. At that age and "form" he's not part of the future. Time for people to accept that.

Didnt say he was part of the future, all I have stated is the bleeding OBVIOUS, play him inside F 50.
Hit up forward.
One out in goal sqaure, he is an extremely smart footballer.
Am still trying to work out how Tucky got dropped.
This club is been ruined by idiots
B-grade kicking, dumb decision making, not overtly quick, allowing opposition players to run past him and run down teammates from behind, .... Tucky tries his guts out and wins a lot of hard footy in and under but he isn't damaging enough to the opposition. If we are relying on Tucky-types to be our 1st tier mids then no wonder we are ordinary.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on July 25, 2009, 06:08:05 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.

mate , footy is a simple game.
Play Joel Inside F 50 and kick it to him , he wont need to chip the ball 10 metres :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
10 years too late for that Jack. Too late now he's over 30 and has slowed down. At that age and "form" he's not part of the future. Time for people to accept that.

Didnt say he was part of the future, all I have stated is the bleeding OBVIOUS, play him inside F 50.
Hit up forward.
One out in goal sqaure, he is an extremely smart footballer.
Am still trying to work out how Tucky got dropped.
This club is been ruined by idiots
We tried playing Bowden as a forward and he did nothing. No defensive pressure and not many goals either. So it's not that simple. Also if you feel like leaving the site again, can you make it permanant this time? Actually can't you go "support" another side?
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 25, 2009, 06:33:37 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.

mate , footy is a simple game.
Play Joel Inside F 50 and kick it to him , he wont need to chip the ball 10 metres :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
10 years too late for that Jack. Too late now he's over 30 and has slowed down. At that age and "form" he's not part of the future. Time for people to accept that.

Didnt say he was part of the future, all I have stated is the bleeding OBVIOUS, play him inside F 50.
Hit up forward.
One out in goal sqaure, he is an extremely smart footballer.
Am still trying to work out how Tucky got dropped.
This club is been ruined by idiots
We tried playing Bowden as a forward and he did nothing. No defensive pressure and not many goals either. So it's not that simple. Also if you feel like leaving the site again, can you make it permanant this time? Actually can't you go "support" another side?

haha was Richmond trying to win them games that Bowden played forward or were thay tanking them games :)
left the site yes l needed the break from some posters who have no idea what goes on inside a football club but speak like they do meaning people like yourself. as for supporting other sides l have been & have memberships for several other clubs like Melbourne, Hawthorn & Collingwood, not to mention the freebies l get to watch other AFL/VFL games so l enjoy watching games like last nights Skunk game with my family.
l be around for along time as long as l'm alive that is, but l'm not addicted to forums like some. l come here to stuff & tell the truth about RFC.
l'm one of them people that comes & goes, l use only OER cause l like the site better than others, its run very well
your like a TV to me :) l turn you on & turn you off & forget about you till l turn you on again. Its funny how you bag Bowden when in the real football world he is admired as a very good player.
When watching football on your TV you should turn your volume up so you can listen to what the commentators say about him & what the media write.
They are all dumbfounded about Richmond as l am to why Bowden is being refused games at Tigerland. Its because Joel is tired of being told to lose games & being told that it will be better next year & that year never comes because the club always gets it wrong year after year.
The club is run by people who are Nuff Nuffs who have taken the club to the broken ladder 9th & now back to the bottom because they think a simple fix from the draft will make everything better when they dont realize they have the wrong staff at the club & that is where the damage is being done.
You can draft 10 Judds but if you dont keep them developed properly & keep up with the rest of the league they will all break & fall over.
No Judd no Carlton, his broken & so are they, they are just as crap as Richmond when they are tanking :)
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Moi on July 25, 2009, 06:43:44 PM
You can draft 10 Judds but if you dont keep them developed properly & keep up with the rest of the league they will all break & fall over.

Exactly right, Wallace wasn't supported at all, yet you would be one of the first to blame him
When really, as you say here, the focus should be on the club and what they're doing for the development of players, et cetera.
I'm just as frustrated with seeing skinny little kids with no skills as the next person
But people are more interested in blaming individuals rather than the issues, like getting the right people down there to help develop these kids
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on July 25, 2009, 06:56:12 PM
I don't see how anyone thinks Joel should be in seniors after that performance. 20m chip kicks that land at the feet of teammates and missing spoils by a metre :P. Mind you he had plenty of mates out there doing the same.

mate , footy is a simple game.
Play Joel Inside F 50 and kick it to him , he wont need to chip the ball 10 metres :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
10 years too late for that Jack. Too late now he's over 30 and has slowed down. At that age and "form" he's not part of the future. Time for people to accept that.

Didnt say he was part of the future, all I have stated is the bleeding OBVIOUS, play him inside F 50.
Hit up forward.
One out in goal sqaure, he is an extremely smart footballer.
Am still trying to work out how Tucky got dropped.
This club is been ruined by idiots
We tried playing Bowden as a forward and he did nothing. No defensive pressure and not many goals either. So it's not that simple. Also if you feel like leaving the site again, can you make it permanant this time? Actually can't you go "support" another side?

haha was Richmond trying to win them games that Bowden played forward or were thay tanking them games :)
left the site yes l needed the break from some posters who have no idea what goes on inside a football club but speak like they do meaning people like yourself. as for supporting other sides l have been & have memberships for several other clubs like Melbourne, Hawthorn & Collingwood, not to mention the freebies l get to watch other AFL/VFL games so l enjoy watching games like last nights Skunk game with my family.
l be around for along time as long as l'm alive that is, but l'm not addicted to forums like some. l come here to stuff & tell the truth about RFC.
l'm one of them people that comes & goes, l use only OER cause l like the site better than others, its run very well
your like a TV to me :) l turn you on & turn you off & forget about you till l turn you on again. Its funny how you bag Bowden when in the real football world he is admired as a very good player.
When watching football on your TV you should turn your volume up so you can listen to what the commentators say about him & what the media write.
They are all dumbfounded about Richmond as l am to why Bowden is being refused games at Tigerland. Its because Joel is tired of being told to lose games & being told that it will be better next year & that year never comes because the club always gets it wrong year after year.
The club is run by people who are Nuff Nuffs who have taken the club to the broken ladder 9th & now back to the bottom because they think a simple fix from the draft will make everything better when they dont realize they have the wrong staff at the club & that is where the damage is being done.
You can draft 10 Judds but if you dont keep them developed properly & keep up with the rest of the league they will all break & fall over.
No Judd no Carlton, his broken & so are they, they are just as crap as Richmond when they are tanking :)
Can you read? I wasn't responding to you
Hope you didn't take too long to write all that cause I certainly didn't read past the first two lines
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 25, 2009, 07:00:41 PM
imfamy No1 Cares if you dont read my posts.
you are 1 poster of many who do read my posts.
Whats frustrates you is that you know l'm right but you live with what RFC dishes upto you. you except it :rollin
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on July 25, 2009, 07:04:00 PM
The day I think you're right is the day I consider taking my own life
You are a blind senile old fool
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 25, 2009, 07:15:32 PM
The day I think you're right is the day I consider taking my own life
You are a blind senile old fool

Imfamy dont get upset that l proved you wrong several times over
l'm sure you will recover  ;D :rollin
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on July 25, 2009, 07:18:12 PM
The day I think you're right is the day I consider taking my own life
You are a blind senile old fool

Imfamy dont get upset that l proved you wrong several times over
l'm sure you will recover  ;D :rollin
You have never proven anything except that your mind fails you when you need it most
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Moi on July 25, 2009, 07:18:41 PM
The day I think you're right is the day I consider taking my own life
You are a blind senile old fool

Imfamy dont get upset that l proved you wrong several times over
l'm sure you will recover  ;D :rollin
I can't remember you being right on anything
Can you remind us?
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 07:19:38 PM
We tried playing Joel forward and he didn't kill it because he is slow, selfish and soft
He's lost us just as many games playing negative sideways football that we've got over run by teams playing attacking football
He's been a liability for 2 years now

I wouldnt think posting this garbage ,you actually understand what happens on the ground. ::)
Joel selfish and  soft, mmmmmmmmmmm ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on July 25, 2009, 07:21:47 PM
We tried playing Joel forward and he didn't kill it because he is slow, selfish and soft
He's lost us just as many games playing negative sideways football that we've got over run by teams playing attacking football
He's been a liability for 2 years now

I wouldnt think posting this garbage ,you actually understand what happens on the ground. ::)
Joel selfish and  soft, mmmmmmmmmmm ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Don't forget slow
He's also old, add that one too
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 25, 2009, 07:22:04 PM
The day I think you're right is the day I consider taking my own life
You are a blind senile old fool



Imfamy dont get upset that l proved you wrong several times over
l'm sure you will recover  ;D :rollin
I can't remember you being right on anything
Can you remind us?

oh please, you been touched up by the pope to many times have a read
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 25, 2009, 07:24:41 PM
We tried playing Joel forward and he didn't kill it because he is slow, selfish and soft
He's lost us just as many games playing negative sideways football that we've got over run by teams playing attacking football
He's been a liability for 2 years now

I wouldnt think posting this garbage ,you actually understand what happens on the ground. ::)
Joel selfish and  soft, mmmmmmmmmmm ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Don't forget slow
He's also old, add that one too

by your posts you dont like mature players so l gather you want Cousins, Brown, Richo gone end of year
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 07:25:46 PM
We tried playing Joel forward and he didn't kill it because he is slow, selfish and soft
He's lost us just as many games playing negative sideways football that we've got over run by teams playing attacking football
He's been a liability for 2 years now

I wouldnt think posting this garbage ,you actually understand what happens on the ground. ::)
Joel selfish and  soft, mmmmmmmmmmm ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Don't forget slow
He's also old, add that one too

Try going to the games before you make any comment, your making a fool of yourself now
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on July 25, 2009, 07:29:18 PM
We tried playing Joel forward and he didn't kill it because he is slow, selfish and soft
He's lost us just as many games playing negative sideways football that we've got over run by teams playing attacking football
He's been a liability for 2 years now

I wouldnt think posting this garbage ,you actually understand what happens on the ground. ::)
Joel selfish and  soft, mmmmmmmmmmm ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Don't forget slow
He's also old, add that one too

Try going to the games before you make any comment, your making a fool of yourself now
Oh but I do go to games, and the funny thing about that is, just how much of a liability Bowden is stands out ten fold when you are there in person. You don't see all the soft efforts he makes when you watch the game on tv.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 07:31:29 PM
We tried playing Joel forward and he didn't kill it because he is slow, selfish and soft
He's lost us just as many games playing negative sideways football that we've got over run by teams playing attacking football
He's been a liability for 2 years now

I wouldnt think posting this garbage ,you actually understand what happens on the ground. ::)
Joel selfish and  soft, mmmmmmmmmmm ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Don't forget slow
He's also old, add that one too

Try going to the games before you make any comment, your making a fool of yourself now
Oh but I do go to games, and the funny thing about that is, just how much of a liability Bowden is stands out ten fold when you are there in person. You don't see all the soft efforts he makes when you watch the game on tv.

 ::) ::) ::) No even worth commenting
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on July 25, 2009, 07:33:30 PM
We tried playing Joel forward and he didn't kill it because he is slow, selfish and soft
He's lost us just as many games playing negative sideways football that we've got over run by teams playing attacking football
He's been a liability for 2 years now

I wouldnt think posting this garbage ,you actually understand what happens on the ground. ::)
Joel selfish and  soft, mmmmmmmmmmm ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Don't forget slow
He's also old, add that one too

Try going to the games before you make any comment, your making a fool of yourself now
Oh but I do go to games, and the funny thing about that is, just how much of a liability Bowden is stands out ten fold when you are there in person. You don't see all the soft efforts he makes when you watch the game on tv.

 ::) ::) ::) No even worth commenting

same l bet he dont even have a membership & watches TV with no volume with his crack pipe cause his unrealistic
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on July 25, 2009, 07:39:45 PM
just shows what a rabble the RFC is actually.
I also didnt like the comments made by Rawlings on the footy show either about Joel
he didnt have to comment and he did.
Wouldnt be suprised if Joel played elsewhere next year.
Would fit in well at a club like Hawthorn
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: bojangles17 on July 25, 2009, 08:35:18 PM
just shows what a rabble the RFC is actually.
I also didnt like the comments made by Rawlings on the footy show either about Joel
he didnt have to comment and he did.
Wouldnt be suprised if Joel played elsewhere next year.
Would fit in well at a club like Hawthorn

he'll definately play on at Balwyn with his bro...his time is up however he should play out his days in the seniors , we would have won last week with JB in the side :whistle
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on July 26, 2009, 01:07:07 AM
Lets see how many games we win for the season shell we.
Yet another WASTED year,
I cant remember any team getting beaten by 15 goals in an opening round,can you ?

I can Jack :thumbsup

2008 Hawthorn 23 16 154 Melbourne 6 14 50
2006 W Bulldogs 25 17 167 Richmond 7 10 52
2004 Port Adel 23 20 158 Essendon   8 14 62
2001 Essendon 23 8 146  Nth Melb    9 7 61
2000 Essendon 24 12 156 Port Adel   8 14 62
1999 Bris Lions 23 15 153 St Kilda    10  3 63
1996 Geelong  27 21 183  Melbourne 8   8 56
1996 Adelaide 20 10 130  Sydney      6  4 40
1993 Adelaide 28 10 178  Richmond  11 12 78
1990 Hawthorn 28 24 192 Geelong    11 11 77
1988 Essendon 25 14 164 North Melb 12 10 82
1987 Sydney    25 14 164 Collingwood 11 9 75
1985 Sydney    26 20 176 St Kilda      8 18 66
1984 Carlton    31 13 199 North Melb  9  8 62
1982 Essendon  29 16 190 Footscray  11 15 81
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on July 26, 2009, 01:49:12 AM
Nice emperic research Tucker :thumbsup
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Francois Jackson on July 26, 2009, 03:38:50 PM
remain postive hey, remained postive for 29 years, LOL
Remain positive when we have seen coaches come and go and walk away with inflated salaries $$$$$$$$$$$$
Yep, you keep donating to the Terry Wallaces of the world and you keep supporting the clowns that run the place.
Yep you keep supporting people who CONTINUALLY make the wrong decsions in recruiting ( How is Thomson and Hislop going ??) and trade draft picks for the Jordon McMahons out there, who actualy doubled his salary by moving clubs. :banghead :banghead
Tell you this, LOYALTY gets you know where
Just ask Joel Bowden. :banghead
And why is Shane Tuck wasting his time playing at Coburg when he should be at the G tomorrow playing on Jobe Watson.  :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead. 
Stop your whining
You wanted a new coach, you got him
Live with it

haha Rawlings a new coach please his a scapegoat

spot on TM.

Rawlings "a coach". Please give me a break.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: one-eyed on August 05, 2009, 08:34:47 PM
Dwayne Russell asked David King if Joel is going to get a farewell game? King said he doesn't know when Joel will get a game or if he'll specifically get a farewell one but he expects Joel will earn one soon enough in his own right. So make of that what you will.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 05, 2009, 09:54:03 PM
If I was a person who understood gambling  :P ;D I reckon Joel is odds on to play against the Pies next week, with a slight chance of playing this week
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: WA Tiger on August 05, 2009, 10:01:35 PM
Bowden will get a game just as Tiv did.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 05, 2009, 10:07:42 PM
Yep Collingwood in rd 20.
At least now with the priority pick gone hopefully we can beat them and ruin their top 4 hopes just like we did in 2007.
Title: Retrieve Joel Bowden from the twilight zone: Mike Sheahan (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on August 06, 2009, 03:48:06 AM
Retrieve Joel Bowden from the twilight zone
Mike Sheahan | August 06, 2009

FROM the outside, Richmond seems to be treating Joel Bowden shabbily. Maybe even shamefully.

He is languishing in the Coburg reserves and has played seven straight VFL games.

It's as if he has been cast aside, seen as obsolete, yet he is one of the most professional, reliable and loyal Richmond people of the past 25 years.

Typically, his spirit is said to be positive, while his stats say his form is sound.

The expectation is he will return to senior level in Round 20 for the game against Collingwood on the day of his testimonial function.

This bloke deserves more than a farewell game. He is a dual best-and-fairest winner, and to the best of my knowledge, has never caused a moment's trouble in 14 years at Punt Rd.

He also happens to rank ninth in the club's history for games played (264).

If the Tigers are trying to win games, as you would expect of a lowly club no longer eligible for a priority draft pick, Bowden should be playing.

As Ben Cousins and Nathan Brown are, as was the plan for Matthew Richardson until his latest setback.

Of course the club is entitled to take the long-term view, in fact, it is obliged to, yet Bowden wouldn't hurt the cause.

He is in Richmond's best 22.

Cousins has been feted as a hero this year, yet he has been at the club a proverbial 10 minutes and it's not unfair to say he has brought his idiosyncrasies with him.

Bowden, only nine days his senior, continues to back up week after week at Coburg, obviously playing out time.

It's a strange situation.

While many people, including some Richmond fans, often mocked his supposedly unaccountable way, presumably he played the way he was told to by coaches wanting him to set up play from deep in defence.

No one seemed to mind the way he played when he was assigned the task of minding gorillas in the goalsquare week after week two and three years ago.

This bloke loves his footy club and has represented it with dignity for a long time.

It is a family that deserves respect.

He and his brother, Patrick, both represented the club in the current decade, and their father, Michael, is a Richmond premiership player, a creature seemingly headed for extinction.

I will always remember Bowden for his passion for Richmond in an appearance on On the Couch several years ago. Neither the public ridicule for Richmond, nor its chronic lack of success diminished his affection for his club.

Next morning, the station and the football club were flooded with positive messages.

Bowden shouldn't be frozen out of his club.

Rather, he should be managed through a departure that tells the football world he has made a significant contribution, and that it isn't necessarily over just yet.

Hopefully, he is not paying the price for his intellect, points of difference and propensity to speak his mind.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25889429-19742,00.html
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 06, 2009, 06:20:46 AM
Hopefully, he is not paying the price for his intellect, points of difference and propensity to speak his mind. :pray


Got it in one Mike
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 06, 2009, 07:48:21 AM
Hopefully, he is not paying the price for his intellect, points of difference and propensity to speak his mind. :pray


Got it in one Mike

exactly correct Richmond poo on him
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on August 06, 2009, 08:15:13 AM
Who cares. This year has just been proof that Bowden was kept on a year too long
Same with Johnson
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 06, 2009, 08:38:40 AM
Who cares. This year has just been proof that Bowden was kept on a year too long
Same with Johnson

Bowden has proven form, your the only one in denile cause you know nothing about football.
The reason why RFC could never get top players or people to the club cause the way they treat people
Next you be telling me McMuffin is a better player than Bowden
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Stripes on August 06, 2009, 12:02:39 PM
We have been a better team without some of the older players and average toilers. While they may have helped us achieve more short term wins like Bowden did last year, in the end they are holding back the progression of younger players who may be part of our future. It is undeniable that Bowden is a strong, intelligent personality who has the Players Association top job there for the taking as soon as Gale moves on but he had to be moved aside to allow the club to try out some of our developing back men. I think Bowden has handled the situation extremely professionally and fully understands the stance of the club on his future.

I disagree with the article - I don't believe he has been treated unfairly no more than any players as they begin to reach the end of their careers. The club owes him a send off which the Collingwood game is but beyond that Joel's bright future belongs outside of a footy field.

Stripes
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on August 06, 2009, 01:39:37 PM
Who cares. This year has just been proof that Bowden was kept on a year too long
Same with Johnson

Bowden has proven form, your the only one in denile cause you know nothing about football.
The reason why RFC could never get top players or people to the club cause the way they treat people
Next you be telling me McMuffin is a better player than Bowden
Now now, let's not go over the top here
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 06, 2009, 01:44:28 PM
We have been a better team without some of the older players and average toilers. While they may have helped us achieve more short term wins like Bowden did last year, in the end they are holding back the progression of younger players who may be part of our future. It is undeniable that Bowden is a strong, intelligent personality who has the Players Association top job there for the taking as soon as Gale moves on but he had to be moved aside to allow the club to try out some of our developing back men. I think Bowden has handled the situation extremely professionally and fully understands the stance of the club on his future.

I disagree with the article - I don't believe he has been treated unfairly no more than any players as they begin to reach the end of their careers. The club owes him a send off which the Collingwood game is but beyond that Joel's bright future belongs outside of a footy field.

Stripes

funny that you say he was in the side & we were winning games & then they drop him & it was not due to poor form either & the people who repalce him are so pathetic & cant win games & play the uglyiest football l ever seen
You say pushing the older players aside  ;D well take Cousins who is older the Bowden out of the team & Richmond would be complete poo  :lol
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: one-eyed on August 06, 2009, 02:41:40 PM
Joel will know his future in 2 weeks but Jade said he won't be discussing it in the media.

Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 06, 2009, 02:54:55 PM
Joel will know his future in 2 weeks but Jade said he won't be discussing it in the media.

Make of that what you will.
Well considering he has discussed the futures of Richo and Cuz with the media and that it appears they are staying, i would think Joel is gone! Joel mustve sledged him pretty hard in his playing days!
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Stripes on August 06, 2009, 03:03:48 PM


Monky, I know Joel is your favourite player but surely you can see that his time is drawing to a close. Regardless of whether he wins us every game for the rest of the season off his own boot he will not be around when the majority of our list is at their peak. If he plays on he would only be holding back another young developing player from the gaining the experience that may enable them to become a crucial component of our future success.

Bowden will always be remembered as a good player for the Tigers but he is no where in the league of Richo and Cousins. Richo and Cousins are stars of the game and as such are afforded more opportunities to play and extended longevity to their playing careers.

We are winning a few games and losing a few at the moment but that is irrelevant. The rest of the season is more about game style, team play and developing players confidence and experience. Bowden would not benefit from this because he is at the tail end of his career.

Sorry Tigermonk - playing Bowden for the rest of the year would be counterproductive to our future. Surely you can see that big fella?!

Stripes

Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 06, 2009, 09:30:19 PM
Its is an absolute disgrace the way the club has handled Joel Bowden.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 06, 2009, 09:51:05 PM
Only comment I will make about Mike's article is why didn't he writing this sort of stuff last season with regard to Tiv? Selective Mike very selective
Title: Bowden wants chance to say goodbye (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on August 06, 2009, 11:32:38 PM
Bowden wants chance to say goodbye
Martin Boulton | August 7, 2009

RICHMOND veteran Joel Bowden is expected to play his farewell game against Collingwood at the MCG in round 20.

Bowden, 31, who made his debut for the Tigers in 1996, is in talks with the club about the details of a final game, which would be held on August 15 and coincide with his testimonial dinner.

Bowden, a dual best and fairest winner, has not played since round 11 and it's believed the club has already told him that he won't be offered a contract extension into 2010.

However, the Tigers are keen to continue a relationship with the 264-game player, who was originally recruited from the Northern Territory and went on to claim All-Australian jumpers in 2005 and '06.

Bowden is one of several Tigers players over 30 who could be moved on when the club appoints a new coach.

Former captain Kane Johnson retired after an injury-plagued season, while ruckman Troy Simmonds and Nathan Brown also face uncertain playing futures.

Bowden was drafted to the club under the father-son rule and played for several years alongside his brother, Patrick, who was delisted at the end of 2008.

After a brief stint in the VFL last year, Bowden returned for the Tigers in round eight, playing every game for the rest of the season. He has played 11 games this season, averaging 25 disposals.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/bowden-wants-chance-to-say-goodbye/2009/08/06/1249350637605.html
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Ox on August 07, 2009, 12:20:39 AM


Bowden has proven form, your the only one in denile cause you know nothing about football.

 :rollin

and u know nothing about spelling,which is hilarious considering you use it to put posters down..so u don't feel so bad about not making it in at the top level.
Title: Re: Bowden wants chance to say goodbye (Age)
Post by: mightytiges on August 07, 2009, 01:18:51 AM
I would say the round 20 farewell game has been in the planning for a while. At least from the Club's viewpoint.

However, the Tigers are keen to continue a relationship with the 264-game player, who was originally recruited from the Northern Territory and went on to claim All-Australian jumpers in 2005 and '06.
Another former (well soon to be) RFC player as an assistant coach?
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 07, 2009, 06:47:59 AM


and u know nothing about spelling,which is hilarious considering you use it to put posters down..so u don't feel so bad about not making it in at the top level.

listen gutless Juno, at least l had a  good career & still put into football every week. sorry you couldnot play football

get down to the JD statue tomorrow.

who cares about spelling & setting out on a forum l dont. you enjoyed special school  :lol
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 07, 2009, 06:59:19 AM
However, the Tigers are keen to continue a relationship with the 264-game player, who was originally recruited from the Northern Territory and went on to claim All-Australian jumpers in 2005 and '06.

Joel is going to turn his back on the club & will tell why he was banished from the senior side.
While players like Edwards, Jon, McMahon get games before him when they cant even get best on ground at Coburg :rollin the future of Richmond please. can tell you all,  none of these players will be close to 10 year players or be half the player Bowden was between them all together
14 years & treated like poo   :banghead no wonder supporters & family are angry. Even some of the largest football personalities cant understand  :banghead
why dont Richmond release a statement to the media. Cause its too embarrassing & petty for the club
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 07, 2009, 07:22:15 AM
However, the Tigers are keen to continue a relationship with the 264-game player, who was originally recruited from the Northern Territory and went on to claim All-Australian jumpers in 2005 and '06.

Joel is going to turn his back on the club & will tell why he was banished from the senior side.
While players like Edwards, Jon, McMahon get games before him when they cant even get best on ground at Coburg :rollin the future of Richmond please. can tell you all,  none of these players will be close to 10 year players or be half the player Bowden was between them all together
14 years & treated like poo   :banghead no wonder supporters & family are angry. Even some of the largest football personalities cant understand  :banghead
why dont Richmond release a statement to the media. Cause its too embarrassing & petty for the club
The Times They are a changin'
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 07, 2009, 07:25:48 AM
However, the Tigers are keen to continue a relationship with the 264-game player, who was originally recruited from the Northern Territory and went on to claim All-Australian jumpers in 2005 and '06.

Joel is going to turn his back on the club & will tell why he was banished from the senior side.
While players like Edwards, Jon, McMahon get games before him when they cant even get best on ground at Coburg :rollin the future of Richmond please. can tell you all,  none of these players will be close to 10 year players or be half the player Bowden was between them all together
14 years & treated like poo   :banghead no wonder supporters & family are angry. Even some of the largest football personalities cant understand  :banghead
why dont Richmond release a statement to the media. Cause its too embarrassing & petty for the club

Totally agree with you Monk.
Clubs are queuing up top get his services next year."" in some shape or form""
Behind the scenes , there is a lot of unhappy people.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 07, 2009, 07:54:44 AM
Totally agree with you Monk.
Clubs are queuing up top get his services next year."" in some shape or form""
Behind the scenes , there is a lot of unhappy people.

my wife as you know goes for the Skunks but Joel is her favorite player & she is steaming.
Other clubs are looking at him & l would laugh if he was picked up & put in a super season & played finals.
If another club was looking for a player to fill a void in thier side Bowden would be looked at.
Collingwood could be that club in the running.

Now Jackstar here is the crunch

Bowden in a few weeks has got 2 x BOG for Coburg yet they play duds before him like McMuffin, Edwards, JON, & a few others.
Bring back players from injury who dont deserve to be in the team before Bowden who all footy media say is in our top 22
we will let Bowden go & he will get picked up by another club if he wants to go on playing

Richmond draft players like Kingsley, Knobel, Graham, l cant think of anymore as l want to forget them,  ;D but Brown who hardly gives the club anything over the last 4 seasons is getting a better go which l find disrespectful
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on August 07, 2009, 08:21:56 AM
Why include Edwards in that list? He's been fantastic the last 3 weeks and is only a kid in his 3rd year
Had pretty decent first two years also
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 07, 2009, 08:27:18 AM
Why include Edwards in that list? He's been fantastic the last 3 weeks and is only a kid in his 3rd year
Had pretty decent first two years also

His under developed, when he tackles a player, then that player is still running with Edwards hanging on like a jockey  ;D
he needs a few good feeds  :lol
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on August 07, 2009, 08:29:53 AM
That may have something to do with the fact he's a KID you idiot
Doesn't seem to worry Nahas, and he's still a year older than Edwards
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 07, 2009, 08:33:45 AM
Nahas was developed under Gary Ayres who gets whats required from young players & pushes them hard.
what about Brisbane Daniel Rich ??  his a 1st year player
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 07, 2009, 08:43:39 AM
Totally agree with you Monk.
Clubs are queuing up top get his services next year."" in some shape or form""
Behind the scenes , there is a lot of unhappy people.

my wife as you know goes for the Skunks but Joel is her favorite player & she is steaming.
Other clubs are looking at him & l would laugh if he was picked up & put in a super season & played finals.
If another club was looking for a player to fill a void in thier side Bowden would be looked at.
Collingwood could be that club in the running.

Now Jackstar here is the crunch

Bowden in a few weeks has got 2 x BOG for Coburg yet they play duds before him like McMuffin, Edwards, JON, & a few others.
Bring back players from injury who dont deserve to be in the team
before Bowden who all footy media say is in our top 22
we will let Bowden go & he will get picked up by another club if he wants to go on playing

Richmond draft players like Kingsley, Knobel, Graham, l cant think of anymore as l want to forget them,  ;D but Brown who hardly gives the club anything over the last 4 seasons is getting a better go which l find disrespectful

that is whats disgraceful about our club.

None of those names you have mentioned will be the future for the RFC so why should they get a gig before Bowden.

Brown has done SFA at Coburg and there is no reason why he should get picked before Bowden.

FFS give the guy some respect. RFC are a disgrace the way they have handled this. Bowden is a stuff i n professional and i dont know him from a bar of soup but you may be hard pressed to find a nicer guy in the AFL.

we r stuffed.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 07, 2009, 08:52:42 AM
What makes Rawlings even look more stupid is that he said McMuffin was close to being our best player against Melbourne  ;D  :lol
can tell ya Daniel if Rawlings gets the coaching job we are doomed. Thats why some of the coaching candidates walked away from coaching us we are doomed under the current admin
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 07, 2009, 08:57:52 AM
What makes Rawlings even look more stupid is that he said McMuffin was close to being our best player against Melbourne  ;D  :lol
can tell ya Daniel if Rawlings gets the coaching job we are doomed. Thats why some of the coaching candidates walked away from coaching us we are doomed under the current admin

i have never liked Rawlings as an assistant coach and i certainly dont like him as coach now.

he is a puppet who has absolutely no idea. We drew against a hack like North and barely beat a tanking dees. ENOUGH SAID!!!

okay so lets comment on Cuz and Richo but not Bowden shall we. I hope im wrong but i think he will be our coach.

He is a glorified version of Wallet with his useless wins against the bottom teams of the comp. and if he thinks Mclovin is in our best 22 then he too is delusional.

Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 07, 2009, 09:25:54 AM
Cuz l would give a 2 year contract as his form warrents it & should be made captain as Chris has no idea
Richo forget about him,  His given great service but that early season hammy injury was serious after he was misadvised by medical staff.
to go through rehab & then after 3 months do damage in the warm up spells the end for him as his injury prone.
any injury to him if he goes on next year would be long recovery & only lowers moral around the club.
would be better giving Bowden a 1 year contract on form which be more value  ;D as where you going to play Richo anyway ??? cause he cant kick under preasure  ;D he has big stage anxiety  :lol which he loses more games & effects team moral of all the hard workers that get it down there.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Ramps on August 07, 2009, 10:09:04 AM
What makes Rawlings even look more stupid is that he said McMuffin was close to being our best player against Melbourne  ;D  :lol
can tell ya Daniel if Rawlings gets the coaching job we are doomed. Thats why some of the coaching candidates walked away from coaching us we are doomed under the current admin

i have never liked Rawlings as an assistant coach and i certainly dont like him as coach now.

he is a puppet who has absolutely no idea. We drew against a hack like North and barely beat a tanking dees. ENOUGH SAID!!!

okay so lets comment on Cuz and Richo but not Bowden shall we. I hope im wrong but i think he will be our coach.

He is a glorified version of Wallet with his useless wins against the bottom teams of the comp. and if he thinks Mclovin is in our best 22 then he too is delusional.



theyve got a winner like Hardwick wanting the job and the clubs stuffen around with candidates like Jade lol. With all due respect to the club, the process would be a nonsense if Hardwick isnt the result. As for Bowden, Bowden should be playing senior football. Im not a Bowden fan, but fair is fair and what is happening to Bowden isnt right. You cant have blokes like McMahon and King in and Bowden out. Say no to Jade Rawlings.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 07, 2009, 02:05:36 PM


that is whats disgraceful about our club.

None of those names you have mentioned will be the future for the RFC so why should they get a gig before Bowden.

Brown has done SFA at Coburg and there is no reason why he should get picked before Bowden.

FFS give the guy some respect. RFC are a disgrace the way they have handled this. Bowden is a stuff i n professional and i dont know him from a bar of soup but you may be hard pressed to find a nicer guy in the AFL.

we r stuffed.
By that post daniel im assuming that you think Bowden is the future of the club and not Edwards?
Is Bowden in his 30's and Edwards in his very early 20's with improvement in each game he has played recently?
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 07, 2009, 02:12:29 PM


that is whats disgraceful about our club.

None of those names you have mentioned will be the future for the RFC so why should they get a gig before Bowden.

Brown has done SFA at Coburg and there is no reason why he should get picked before Bowden.

FFS give the guy some respect. RFC are a disgrace the way they have handled this. Bowden is a stuff i n professional and i dont know him from a bar of soup but you may be hard pressed to find a nicer guy in the AFL.

we r stuffed.
By that post daniel im assuming that you think Bowden is the future of the club and not Edwards?
Is Bowden in his 30's and Edwards in his very early 20's with improvement in each game he has played recently?

read my past posts again.

Bowden is not our future much like Edwards, King, Brown, Mclovin, Schulz, JON and Patterson but right now we have given everyone a go. Anyone with a heart beat knows those players are useless so what harm is it to give Bowden a go. Why Brown and not Bowden explain that to me??

i dont care how old they are i care if they can play.

right now Bowden should be playing out his final few games while the rest of those hacks should be at Coburg where they belong.

Edwards is not going to win you a flag simple as that. skinny little players that Wallace used to rub his gonads over is not what we need at this club.

I want players next year who are going to block, tackle and shepherd for each other and Edwards is as skinny as my 4 year old cousin so he should be let go for draft picks.

Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 07, 2009, 02:39:36 PM
However, the Tigers are keen to continue a relationship with the 264-game player, who was originally recruited from the Northern Territory and went on to claim All-Australian jumpers in 2005 and '06.

Joel is going to turn his back on the club & will tell why he was banished from the senior side.
While players like Edwards, Jon, McMahon get games before him when they cant even get best on ground at Coburg :rollin the future of Richmond please. can tell you all,  none of these players will be close to 10 year players or be half the player Bowden was between them all together
14 years & treated like poo   :banghead no wonder supporters & family are angry. Even some of the largest football personalities cant understand  :banghead
why dont Richmond release a statement to the media. Cause its too embarrassing & petty for the club

And that is why I and others would call him a selfish nobody if he was to do that. 264 games thanks for the service but the club and its agenda is bigger than ANY player and the reputation he has that preceeds it.  For him to go and do that it would be more of a slur to his character and reputation than the clubs after 13 years. Get over the fact he is not playing next year and move on. It's examples of self righteousness as this if it were to occur that leave the club in the dark ages due to antequated thinking.

So if a 20 year old who is struggling is kept on for one or two more seasons at the expense of a 31 year old when the club has adopted a youth policy then just a piece of advice go and follow Dads Army in Adelaide or Sydney and drool over 30 plus players who actually can play football. What do you think this is country Victoria where anyone can play 368 games in a two bit town at 45-50 years of age just to give the local economy a kickstart and the community a bit of togetherness. This is the AFL big bikkies for goodness sake.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: DallasCrane on August 07, 2009, 03:50:18 PM
Hey Daniel, lay off Edwards will ya?

His last month has been great. I think you've been having too many margeritas instead of watching the footy.

You keep saying trade him for draft picks, who is going to give us draft picks if he is as bad as you say?
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Stripes on August 07, 2009, 03:54:46 PM
Bowden was an average player who was made to look good by the poor players around him for far too long. He lead our backline to be unaccountable, sidewards chippers who would always slow the ball up and look for an uncontested option rather than risk moving the ball forward and turning it over. Bowden was a beautiful kick and level headed but he played in a style that was better suited to the past than to the future.

If that mean giving a younger player a chance to develop, even if they might not be as good now, then I would do that every day of the year given our current position as a club. Joel deserves a send off game for certain but claiming he deserves a spot in our current team is far too short sighted and unproductive.

Thanks for the memories Joel but now its time to build a team to finally give us some @#$%& success!!

Stripes
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: wayne on August 07, 2009, 03:59:08 PM
Hey Daniel, lay off Edwards will ya?

His last month has been great. I think you've been having too many margeritas instead of watching the footy.

You keep saying trade him for draft picks, who is going to give us draft picks if he is as bad as you say?

I do not know this man named DallasCrane, but his thoughts on Edwards echo mine.  :rollin
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 07, 2009, 05:56:55 PM
Bowden was an average player who was made to look good by the poor players around him for far too long. He lead our backline to be unaccountable, sidewards chippers who would always slow the ball up and look for an uncontested option rather than risk moving the ball forward and turning it over. Bowden was a beautiful kick and level headed but he played in a style that was better suited to the past than to the future.



Stripes

Thats just crap what you wrote, how can you call a player average & made look good by the crap players around him.  :rollin
How many times has he put his body on the line, he stood out because his a

2 x All Australian player. thats in the top 22 selected player in all football not once but twice.  ;D If he was not good someone else would have been given his place so that stuffs up your theory  good & proper unless of coarse your a Australian qualified selector but we know your not cause you hang around here.

Anyone who dont admit Bowden was a top footballer is outrages & is not a true Richmond supporter. l bet you jump around screaming when his won or safed us games  :banghead
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 07, 2009, 06:56:24 PM
Bowden was an average player who was made to look good by the poor players around him for far too long. He lead our backline to be unaccountable, sidewards chippers who would always slow the ball up and look for an uncontested option rather than risk moving the ball forward and turning it over. Bowden was a beautiful kick and level headed but he played in a style that was better suited to the past than to the future.



Stripes

Thats just crap what you wrote, how can you call a player average & made look good by the crap players around him.  :rollin
How many times has he put his body on the line, he stood out because his a

2 x All Australian player. thats in the top 22 selected player in all football not once but twice.  ;D If he was not good someone else would have been given his place so that effs up your theory  good & proper unless of cobehind your a Australian qualified selector but we know your not cause you hang around here.

Anyone who dont admit Bowden was a top footballer is outrages & is not a true Richmond supporter. l bet you jump around screaming when his won or safed us games  :banghead

exactly.

i cant believe people would rather see a hack like Mclovin, or even King or Edwards in the team ahead of Bowden.

Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Fishfinger on August 07, 2009, 07:15:12 PM

Joel deserves a send off game for certain but claiming he deserves a spot in our current team is far too short sighted and unproductive.

Short-sighted? What are you, some kind of self professed visionary who can look down on anyone not subscribing to your opinion?  :wallywink

How do you explain away the fact that Joel was 2nd in net metres gained in the competition when dropped when you claim sideways chipping by him? Or does your opinion override statistical fact as well?

Thanks for the memories Joel but now its time to build a team to finally give us some @#$%& success!!

Lots of good players, even some great ones (one a triple Brownlow medallist), have played in crap teams for no success. It wasn't their fault.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: yellowandback on August 07, 2009, 07:23:44 PM
Thats just crap what you wrote, how can you call a player average & made look good by the crap players around him.  :rollin
How many times has he put his body on the line, he stood out because his a

2 x All Australian player. thats in the top 22 selected player in all football not once but twice.  ;D If he was not good someone else would have been given his place so that effs up your theory  good & proper unless of cobehind your a Australian qualified selector but we know your not cause you hang around here.

Anyone who dont admit Bowden was a top footballer is outrages & is not a true Richmond supporter. l bet you jump around screaming when his won or safed us games  :banghead
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You say this and yet in the same breath find it perfectly okay to bag Mattie Richardson. 
The problem with this style of posting is that it is so obvious your views are slanted heavily to one player - you could argue it is a individualistic type of barracking.

So TM, who do you barrack for, Richmond or Joel Bowden?

If he did play for another club would you switch allegiances?
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 07, 2009, 09:36:27 PM
Bowden was an average player who was made to look good by the poor players around him for far too long. He lead our backline to be unaccountable, sidewards chippers who would always slow the ball up and look for an uncontested option rather than risk moving the ball forward and turning it over. Bowden was a beautiful kick and level headed but he played in a style that was better suited to the past than to the future.

If that mean giving a younger player a chance to develop, even if they might not be as good now, then I would do that every day of the year given our current position as a club. Joel deserves a send off game for certain but claiming he deserves a spot in our current team is far too short sighted and unproductive.

Thanks for the memories Joel but now its time to build a team to finally give us some @#$%& success!!

Stripes

This would be the worst post ever that I have read, and boy I have read some crap on this website
Joel an average player :banghead
You have no idea what so ever.  Do you actually go to the games?   ::)
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: mightytiges on August 08, 2009, 01:40:49 AM
There's one reason and one reason only why Joel isn't playing seniors - he's over 30 and won't be around next year. Being a veteran listed player also means the Club doesn't have to worry about whether a kid they'll pick up in November will offer any better value on our senior list than Joel. Joel's position on our list will be taken by a new rookie so it doesn't matter if it's a speculative pick. That's what the rookie list is for.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Fishfinger on August 08, 2009, 07:27:42 AM
There's one reason and one reason only why Joel isn't playing seniors - he's over 30 and won't be around next year.
I hope there's more to it than that. He's on the list this year.

I thought he was going alright. I'll be interested to see where he was in the JDM after round 11 to gauge whether the match committee, coaches and whoever else votes thought so too.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 08, 2009, 08:43:49 AM

You say this and yet in the same breath find it perfectly okay to bag Mattie Richardson. 
The problem with this style of posting is that it is so obvious your views are slanted heavily to one player - you could argue it is a individualistic type of barracking.

So TM, who do you barrack for, Richmond or Joel Bowden?

If he did play for another club would you switch allegiances?


Ok lets get one thing straight, l have always liked Richo,  but to breed new forwards he must be moved on as his injury this year was serious.

You tell me what position is he going to play surely you dont beleive his going to take the wing & put in another RU Brownlow year 2 years on at 35 next year. Great icon of the club but time has come.

Now why l'm so Bowden at present has nothing to do with anything but the fact his a top footballer & his form this year was good. He should not have been dropped. What makes me more irate is that he has been BOG at least 3 times in his stint at VFL & Rawlings did say Coburg form would warrant a recall to the senior side. This is purely a lie & disrespectful to a person who puts the club before himself & keeps his thoughts to himself not running to the media.
The treatment to Joel Bowden as a footballer, l wish he would just walkout on the club & go into the draft to play on as his younger than Richo.
Now would l switch if he changes clubs, that is a stupid question. NO. Reading the paper this morning seeing him in a Geelong jumper was not good.
But aint it amazing they used him as a example as most people in football have said how much his been ill treated by a club his served well for 14 years.
A club dual Best & fairest winner & dual All-Australian & represented his country. Half the footballers would wish for them results in thier careers.
His VFL form is a good sign to draft him next year & get something out of him, while Richmond over the years has drafted Kingley, McMuffin, Knobel, and many others who were broken & had no VFL form, payed them unrealistic money & got nothing out of them at all now does that make sence.
Why l'm so mad about Richmond is thier constant bad decisions throughout the club over 3 decades & they have not learnt anything. And l hate how they must talk to the media about every little thing that the club does or sending players out to do thier dirty work. l will leave it there.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 08, 2009, 08:50:20 AM
There's one reason and one reason only why Joel isn't playing seniors - he's over 30 and won't be around next year. Being a veteran listed player also means the Club doesn't have to worry about whether a kid they'll pick up in November will offer any better value on our senior list than Joel. Joel's position on our list will be taken by a new rookie so it doesn't matter if it's a speculative pick. That's what the rookie list is for.

Crap its got nothing to do with his age, His form was good. His form in the VFL is good.
Does Richmond really want to win games or experiment so early in a season. We are the only club supporters going to games knowing we will lose but still turn up wishful thinking.
Tuck was another dropping that stumped the footy world. His averages in the league were close to best. everyone makes mistakes but football is all about winning & l dont see that at Tigerland with their selection panel.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 08, 2009, 08:53:16 AM
There's one reason and one reason only why Joel isn't playing seniors - he's over 30 and won't be around next year.
I hope there's more to it than that. He's on the list this year.

I thought he was going alright. I'll be interested to see where he was in the JDM after round 11 to gauge whether the match committee, coaches and whoever else votes thought so too.

So will l fishy
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: one-eyed on August 09, 2009, 03:00:36 AM
This was posted by Tiggytam on Y&B....

It was announced that Joel played his last game at Coburg today, they clapped him off after the game.

http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=267273&postcount=17
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: mightytiges on August 09, 2009, 04:52:36 AM
This was posted by Tiggytam on Y&B....

It was announced that Joel played his last game at Coburg today, they clapped him off after the game.

http://www.yellowandblack.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=267273&postcount=17
Well that pretty much confirms next week will be Joel's farewell game for Richmond.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 09, 2009, 09:58:56 AM
Yes it surely is a new club next year for Joel
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Damo on August 09, 2009, 10:05:50 AM
Yes it surely is a new club next year for Joel

Yup. Balwyn.

There is no chance an AFL club will be picking him up.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: wayne on August 09, 2009, 10:19:05 AM
Yes it surely is a new club next year for Joel

Hopefully he gets us a 2nd rounder  :pray
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 09, 2009, 11:30:43 AM
the way some of you ppl are treating joel is an utter disgrace
joel has always put th eclub first and always followed the instructions given to him
he won a b and f, he was twice AA
he has done so much for our club and when he plays that loose man role he is criticised just for doing what the coaches asked, yet fuckheads like hodge at hawkland are praised for the exact same role  :banghead :banghead
once again joel is a victim and scapegoat just for being in a poo team during a poo era
ppl forget he has played as a fwd, midfield, wings, hbf and eld the fb and chb positions through his career just because the team needed him to fill massive gaps in our list
he has won games for us, saved games for us , bled for us
yet many of you fuckheads just so simply forget
joel bowden thanks for being a true tiger champ! :clapping :clapping :clapping
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: bushranger on August 09, 2009, 11:46:45 AM
I wish him all the best.  :clapping
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: cub on August 09, 2009, 11:50:04 AM
I would have worded it a bit differently but pretty much agree TTII :shh

If we weren't at the stage we are at the moment, I would say Joel had a couple of servicable years left in him at Tigerland.

I will be :clapping him off against the skunks.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on August 09, 2009, 01:03:50 PM
the way some of you ppl are treating joel is an utter disgrace
joel has always put th eclub first and always followed the instructions given to him
he won a b and f, he was twice AA
he has done so much for our club and when he plays that loose man role he is criticised just for doing what the coaches asked, yet effheads like hodge at hawkland are praised for the exact same role  :banghead :banghead
once again joel is a victim and scapegoat just for being in a poo team during a poo era
ppl forget he has played as a fwd, midfield, wings, hbf and eld the fb and chb positions through his career just because the team needed him to fill massive gaps in our list
he has won games for us, saved games for us , bled for us
yet many of you effheads just so simply forget
joel bowden thanks for being a true tiger champ! :clapping :clapping :clapping
The difference is Luke Hodge is one of the toughest players in the game, has one of the best kicks in the league and has the ability to play as a genuine midfielder if required.
Hodge is used down back because of his elite skills setting up the play, he's far better at it than Bowden because he doesn't kick sideways to unmarked teammates and doesn't have the brain farts and terrible turnovers that Bowden does regularly each week. For someone who has such good skills, Bowden manages to pull off some of the worst turnovers in the entire team.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 09, 2009, 06:28:22 PM
the way some of you ppl are treating joel is an utter disgrace
joel has always put th eclub first and always followed the instructions given to him
he won a b and f, he was twice AA
he has done so much for our club and when he plays that loose man role he is criticised just for doing what the coaches asked, yet effheads like hodge at hawkland are praised for the exact same role  :banghead :banghead
once again joel is a victim and scapegoat just for being in a poo team during a poo era
ppl forget he has played as a fwd, midfield, wings, hbf and eld the fb and chb positions through his career just because the team needed him to fill massive gaps in our list
he has won games for us, saved games for us , bled for us
yet many of you effheads just so simply forget
joel bowden thanks for being a true tiger champ! :clapping :clapping :clapping
The difference is Luke Hodge is one of the toughest players in the game, has one of the best kicks in the league and has the ability to play as a genuine midfielder if required.
Hodge is used down back because of his elite skills setting up the play, he's far better at it than Bowden because he doesn't kick sideways to unmarked teammates and doesn't have the brain farts and terrible turnovers that Bowden does regularly each week. For someone who has such good skills, Bowden manages to pull off some of the worst turnovers in the entire team.

you have absolutely no idea you fool.

worst turnovers in the whole team do you actually go to games?? Bowden is up there with the best 10% of players in our team in terms of disposal make no mistake about that.

Bowden has been the most used and abused player in our team. I have no doubt if we had a descent backline the last 10 years he would have been a 50 goal kicker for our team playing as a hit up forward.

as someone has mentioned before im sure you were loving his action when he won and saved so many games for us.

The RFC and Jade Rawlings have NFI not playing him ahead of  players like Edwards, Mclovin and King, whom may i add are NOT part of our future.



Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 09, 2009, 06:51:15 PM
just ignore Imfamy & Brackets as they are tossers who beleive McLovin is going to fill Bowden position

fair dinkum McLovin was at his best doing what he always has & will do. Disgraceful disposal  :lol :rollin

check your stats out imfamy & you will find Bowden hits his targets up better than most in the league
Its not his fault some of his teammates are imcompetant  :lol with the likes of Edwards, McLovin, White, & a few others who you have for the future.
Bowden will be picked up next year just watch clubs will have already called him

wanna talk about old players who people say are hacks & should make way for younger better players well listen up  ;D
check out the Sydney vs Richmond thread  :lol
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 09, 2009, 10:34:46 PM
Joel was a guest at half time at the Player's CLub coterie where he announced next week would be his last game .....





Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Ox on August 09, 2009, 11:28:32 PM
just ignore Imfamy & Brackets as they are tossers who beleive McLovin is going to fill Bowden position


LMAO @ u and Danielle - partners in stupidity  :-*

Danielle would smear himself in s hit to make friends.

You have none....Mexican standoff.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on August 09, 2009, 11:42:19 PM
The difference is Luke Hodge is one of the toughest players in the game, has one of the best kicks in the league and has the ability to play as a genuine midfielder if required.
Hodge is used down back because of his elite skills setting up the play, he's far better at it than Bowden because he doesn't kick sideways to unmarked teammates and doesn't have the brain farts and terrible turnovers that Bowden does regularly each week. For someone who has such good skills, Bowden manages to pull off some of the worst turnovers in the entire team.

you have absolutely no idea you fool.

worst turnovers in the whole team do you actually go to games?? Bowden is up there with the best 10% of players in our team in terms of disposal make no mistake about that.
Stop being such a cock and selectively quoting my posts. I said he manages to pull off SOME of the worst turnovers in the team. When he's all by himself, not under pressure and kicks straight down the throat of an unmanned opponent, I would say that's one of the worst turnovers in the team. Given he's kicking out of defence it means he gives it back in the most dangerous position on the ground.  He's done it enough times that it's not a random event, he's known for his brain farts.

I swear if you managed to grow even half a brain you'd be dangerous.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 10, 2009, 08:06:36 AM


you have absolutely no idea you fool.

worst turnovers in the whole team do you actually go to games?? Bowden is up there with the best 10% of players in our team in terms of disposal make no mistake about that.
Stop being such a cock and selectively quoting my posts. I said he manages to pull off SOME of the worst turnovers in the team. When he's all by himself, not under pressure and kicks straight down the throat of an unmanned opponent, I would say that's one of the worst turnovers in the team. Given he's kicking out of defence it means he gives it back in the most dangerous position on the ground.  He's done it enough times that it's not a random event, he's known for his brain farts.

I swear if you managed to grow even half a brain you'd be dangerous.
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Tell me whos been doing all the great kickout turnovers since round 12 you sure cant blame Bowden to which l was replying too in your post.
Bowden is my favorite player so l defend him against gooses like you & brackets weak little Juno the keyboard basher who constantly attack him which is pathetic.
hope your standing under the superboxes next week, l will open the window & pee down on ya both.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Stripes on August 10, 2009, 12:18:04 PM
Thats just crap what you wrote, how can you call a player average & made look good by the crap players around him.  :rollin
How many times has he put his body on the line, he stood out because his a

2 x All Australian player. thats in the top 22 selected player in all football not once but twice.  ;D If he was not good someone else would have been given his place so that effs up your theory  good & proper unless of cobehind your a Australian qualified selector but we know your not cause you hang around here.

Anyone who dont admit Bowden was a top footballer is outrages & is not a true Richmond supporter. l bet you jump around screaming when his won or safed us games  :banghead

I did jump around cheering when he won us those games but it was those moments of brilliance that secured him a place on the list this year when he was more than likely going to be moved on last year otherwise. He has been dropped multiple times over the last two years mainly due to making room for the younger defenders to find their way but also because he is very unaccountable as a defender.

Coaches stopped concerning themselves with him claiming the ball because they knew he would slow down the play and not hurt them with his disposal. Teams like Collingwood played off him and instructed there players to favour Bowdens opponents because he would usually be floating and trying to play the loose man in defense and get the easy possession. He rarely took off with the ball from HB and broke the lines instead he would stop and prop, wait until the opposition had manned up and look for the free option.

I'm sorry Tigermonk, and I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else who loved Joel, its just that I feel given his age and his playing style, it is in our best interests to find new backmen and new leaders to help with our culture problem.

Like you though I will be cheering him on come Saturday and hope he kicks the winning goal against the Woobles! :gotigers

Stripes
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Stripes on August 10, 2009, 12:35:19 PM
exactly.

i cant believe people would rather see a hack like Mclovin, or even King or Edwards in the team ahead of Bowden.

I would prefer Edwards over Bowden at the moment. Not because he is a better player currently, but because he is showing that he has the potential to be. He takes on the opposition from half back and breaks the lines. He has created a lot of goals for us this way and last weeks game was exceptional. Sure he still makes inexperienced mistakes like being caught attempting to dodge around the wrong opponent from time to time but then again so did Bling and now he is one of our best every week.

King will never have the talent of Bowden but he surpasses him with spirit, fire and heart. He will never be much more than a tagger but he has age on his side and the right attitude we are desperate for at the moment.

McMahon...is a good kick but you are probably right, he should not be getting a game in terms of ability over Joel. His age is his greatest strength compared to Bowden.

Stripes
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Stripes on August 10, 2009, 12:56:43 PM

Joel deserves a send off game for certain but claiming he deserves a spot in our current team is far too short sighted and unproductive.

Short-sighted? What are you, some kind of self professed visionary who can look down on anyone not subscribing to your opinion?  :wallywink

How do you explain away the fact that Joel was 2nd in net metres gained in the competition when dropped when you claim sideways chipping by him? Or does your opinion override statistical fact as well?

Thanks for the memories Joel but now its time to build a team to finally give us some @#$%& success!!

Lots of good players, even some great ones (one a triple Brownlow medallist), have played in crap teams for no success. It wasn't their fault.

Self professed visionary hey.....I see your future fishy and its a bit on the nose. Don't get hooked or lie next to any welcoming chips! ;)

My Short-sighted comment refers to his playing future. Joel is on the wrong side of thirty and at the end of his career. If we play him when we are no longer a chance to play for finals wouldn't this be counter productive? Would it not serve us to bring into the side a player who would benefit from the experience and play beyond this season?

In terms of looking down on people who don't agree with me - I never belittle people on this forum for their opinion, I never swear/rant/name call and I never proclaim that my opinion is the only valid one to have. People can write what they like and how they like it but I find it strange that you say I 'look down on people'.

I've heard your claim that Joel was the 2nd best for 'meters gained' in the league but, as I commented then, that statistic took into account meters gained across goal as well towards your forwardline. So switches in play are credited and Joel's habit of switching from one side of the defensive 50 to the next and frequently back again certainly would have boasted these figures.

'Does your opinion over-ride statistic evidence as well' - nice comment, if it was relevant or true, but statistics need to be clarified as I have done for you above. Some stats are a waste of time.

Finally you talk about crap teams sometimes having Brownlow medalists and you are right but you could argue they stood out under such conditions. Joel also stood out as much for his possession count as his role in the team. I could probably argue in a better team a backman such as himself would not have secured the ball anywhere near as much and have other players taking the responsibility to move the ball forward.

Stripes
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Stripes on August 10, 2009, 01:02:00 PM
Bowden was an average player who was made to look good by the poor players around him for far too long. He lead our backline to be unaccountable, sidewards chippers who would always slow the ball up and look for an uncontested option rather than risk moving the ball forward and turning it over. Bowden was a beautiful kick and level headed but he played in a style that was better suited to the past than to the future.

If that mean giving a younger player a chance to develop, even if they might not be as good now, then I would do that every day of the year given our current position as a club. Joel deserves a send off game for certain but claiming he deserves a spot in our current team is far too short sighted and unproductive.

Thanks for the memories Joel but now its time to build a team to finally give us some @#$%& success!!

Stripes

This would be the worst post ever that I have read, and boy I have read some crap on this website
Joel an average player :banghead
You have no idea what so ever.  Do you actually go to the games?   ::)

Sorry to disappoint you Jack. The worst post you have ever read... well that's saying something. ;)

I'm sorry to say too that most weeks I do go to games but how this gives me a better idea than someone who doesn't I'm not 100% clear on. Perhaps we are all seeing things from different perspectives based on our viewing at the time which would mean you and me should have the same opinion.

Joel is finished now regardless of what we personally think so lets just cheer him on against the Pies and wish his every success in the future.

Stripes
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: 2JD on August 10, 2009, 01:07:07 PM
Thats just crap what you wrote, how can you call a player average & made look good by the crap players around him.  :rollin
How many times has he put his body on the line, he stood out because his a

2 x All Australian player. thats in the top 22 selected player in all football not once but twice.  ;D If he was not good someone else would have been given his place so that effs up your theory  good & proper unless of cobehind your a Australian qualified selector but we know your not cause you hang around here.

Anyone who dont admit Bowden was a top footballer is outrages & is not a true Richmond supporter. l bet you jump around screaming when his won or safed us games  :banghead

I did jump around cheering when he won us those games but it was those moments of brilliance that secured him a place on the list this year when he was more than likely going to be moved on last year otherwise. He has been dropped multiple times over the last two years mainly due to making room for the younger defenders to find their way but also because he is very unaccountable as a defender.

Coaches stopped concerning themselves with him claiming the ball because they knew he would slow down the play and not hurt them with his disposal. Teams like Collingwood played off him and instructed there players to favour Bowdens opponents because he would usually be floating and trying to play the loose man in defense and get the easy possession. He rarely took off with the ball from HB and broke the lines instead he would stop and prop, wait until the opposition had manned up and look for the free option.

I'm sorry Tigermonk, and I mean no disrespect to you or anyone else who loved Joel, its just that I feel given his age and his playing style, it is in our best interests to find new backmen and new leaders to help with our culture problem.  

Like you though I will be cheering him on come Saturday and hope he kicks the winning goal against the Woobles! :gotigers

Stripes


Totally agree with this comment, I love Joel but his time has come. Thanks for  your loyalty and work ethic and good luck to you whatever you choose to do, whether it be football related or under privileged kids :clapping
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 10, 2009, 01:30:29 PM
Bowden was an average player who was made to look good by the poor players around him for far too long. He lead our backline to be unaccountable, sidewards chippers who would always slow the ball up and look for an uncontested option rather than risk moving the ball forward and turning it over. Bowden was a beautiful kick and level headed but he played in a style that was better suited to the past than to the future.

If that mean giving a younger player a chance to develop, even if they might not be as good now, then I would do that every day of the year given our current position as a club. Joel deserves a send off game for certain but claiming he deserves a spot in our current team is far too short sighted and unproductive.

Thanks for the memories Joel but now its time to build a team to finally give us some @#$%& success!!

Stripes

This would be the worst post ever that I have read, and boy I have read some crap on this website
Joel an average player :banghead
You have no idea what so ever.  Do you actually go to the games?   ::)

Sorry to disappoint you Jack. The worst post you have ever read... well that's saying something. ;)

I'm sorry to say too that most weeks I do go to games but how this gives me a better idea than someone who doesn't I'm not 100% clear on. Perhaps we are all seeing things from different perspectives based on our viewing at the time which would mean you and me should have the same opinion.

Joel is finished now regardless of what we personally think so lets just cheer him on against the Pies and wish his every success in the future.

Stripes

SHOULD of been played in a different role this year. Either up forward or through the corridor as possibly a half forward playing high.
Never mind. No vision down at Richmond :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Chuck17 on August 10, 2009, 01:33:26 PM
Never mind. No vision down at Richmond :banghead :banghead

Some would say the vision is playing the kids to allow them to develop as a unit together as their bodies and abilities mature.

Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 10, 2009, 01:56:41 PM


McMahon...is a good kick but you are probably right, he should not be getting a game in terms of ability over Joel. His age is his greatest strength compared to Bowden.

Stripes

OMFG stripe have you been watching the last 2 games lately. McMuffin could not hit a 1 metre wide tree that standing still.  :lol
His the worst disposal by foot in the club if not the AFL. he kicks shorter than Joel & misses everytime.  :lol
Lucky l'm not coach down at Tigerland  ;D l would order the players at training to pick him up & carry him to the dumpster & close the lid  ;D :lol
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on August 10, 2009, 05:40:05 PM
Bowden was an average player who was made to look good by the poor players around him for far too long. He lead our backline to be unaccountable, sidewards chippers who would always slow the ball up and look for an uncontested option rather than risk moving the ball forward and turning it over. Bowden was a beautiful kick and level headed but he played in a style that was better suited to the past than to the future.

If that mean giving a younger player a chance to develop, even if they might not be as good now, then I would do that every day of the year given our current position as a club. Joel deserves a send off game for certain but claiming he deserves a spot in our current team is far too short sighted and unproductive.

Thanks for the memories Joel but now its time to build a team to finally give us some @#$%& success!!

Stripes

This would be the worst post ever that I have read, and boy I have read some crap on this website
Joel an average player :banghead
You have no idea what so ever.  Do you actually go to the games?   ::)

Sorry to disappoint you Jack. The worst post you have ever read... well that's saying something. ;)

I'm sorry to say too that most weeks I do go to games but how this gives me a better idea than someone who doesn't I'm not 100% clear on. Perhaps we are all seeing things from different perspectives based on our viewing at the time which would mean you and me should have the same opinion.

Joel is finished now regardless of what we personally think so lets just cheer him on against the Pies and wish his every success in the future.

Stripes

SHOULD of been played in a different role this year. Either up forward or through the corridor as possibly a half forward playing high.
Never mind. No vision down at Richmond :banghead :banghead
They tried that last year, after getting dropped to Coburg. He wasn't very good, certainly didn't do the team things and added no defensive pressure in the forward line. Given he's a veteran, his output was very average.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 10, 2009, 05:55:02 PM

They tried that last year, after getting dropped to Coburg. He wasn't very good, certainly didn't do the team things and added no defensive pressure in the forward line. Given he's a veteran, his output was very average.

man your all stuffed up. Bowden came back last year after being dropped & played good football. His form this year was close to best in the side before he went back to help the younger players.
But the real reason why his not playing will come out when his finished. l know the reason but its not my place to say anything yet.  ;D
He should be still in the side in a half forward stuff role where he can hit the main forwards up & kick goals from 50m that dud Rewoldt cant even get the distance. Who has no confidence at all & he makes me sick looking at him sometimes searching for someone to do his job & thats your future dud. Another Richo type who misses easy set shots & barks orders like his a champion FF but he will be forever a dud
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: DallasCrane on August 10, 2009, 06:01:17 PM
I like sitting in the outer, HFF at the Punt Road end.

Joel Bowden made some shocking mistakes right in front of me, I can forgive that. What I wont forgive is some of the squib efforts that he put in right before my very eyes. Especially the few games before he was infamously dropped from the line up.

Despite the fact that he played a blinder of a season of a half after he got dropped, I don't think he ever 'got it' in terms of putting your body on the line, when it's your turn. And anyone who has played the game, especially Tigermonk, should know, when it's your turn, it's your turn. You take the hit for the team.

Except for the season and a half I just mentioned, Joel wouldn't take his turn. He thought that was a job for the lesser skilled players such as Andrew Kellaway. Newsflash to all current Richmond players, everyone has to take their hit, everyone has to tackle hard. No exceptions, and Joel thought he was one.

And Stripes is right- teams were deliberately leaving him alone, the only thing Joel could achieve standing by himself on a HBF was massive dreamteam scores.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: DallasCrane on August 10, 2009, 06:09:34 PM
There's one guy who sits in the same area, used to call him "Halfway Bowden"

When the ball was in defence, and the defender was red hot, Bowden wouldn't run up to help the player in trouble, instead, he would 'release himself' by just running off 15 metres expecting an easy mark or handball receive, instead the defender, not getting any help, would have to kick it 30 metres to no one, so this supporter always accused him of being halfway between where the ball was and where it was going.

And he was right, too many times Bowden ran off looking for the easy stat.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 10, 2009, 06:10:02 PM
Bowden put his body on the line every game he played. Heard it all before can remember Joel got hit about 7 times one game & was clearly in the best players & some nut rang 3aw & said Bowden does not put his body on the line & played crap that day.
Robert Walls shot him down like the idiot he was & cut the caller off saying he was one of the biggest idiots who ever rang the station.  ;D

l got tapes of all games Bowden was in & can tell you he put his body on the line often
He played the outside player cause that is what he was told to do. McMahon was recruited to take the same role.
Anyone who beats Johnthan Brown by putting his body on the line should get respect from Richmond supporters
Title: Bowden on SEN @ 6.45pm
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2009, 06:54:45 PM
Joel on SEN .....

* Disappointing for the AFLPA to lose Gale but a great get by Richmond. No surprise Richmond would chase after someone with Benny's integrity and skills.

* It looks like the Collingwood game will be his last for the RFC. Spoke to the club for last 6-7 weeks about getting a farewell game. Not 100% sure yet as he's been in Mildura at his godfather's funeral.  He's hoping it's his last game and then finish with a testimonial dinner upstairs at the MCG at 7pm.

* 150-200 people he expects to turn up. Not a big one like Riccuito's who had 1500 attend his. Invited family and friends as well. Hope we win and then celebrate 14 years which is a long time in the game.

* Kouta gave Joel a big wrap and said he should be very proud of his career as he could play all over the ground - forward, mid or down back on big blokes.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 10, 2009, 06:57:19 PM
Never mind. No vision down at Richmond :banghead :banghead

Some would say the vision is playing the kids to allow them to develop as a unit together as their bodies and abilities mature.



And vision is not rolling back the young players to all play behind the ball, as what happened on the weekend, they learn nothing.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: DallasCrane on August 10, 2009, 07:32:43 PM
Bowden put his body on the line every game he played.


 :lol
Did he really?

Why did he get dropped then- it certainly had nothing to do with his possession count.

Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Mr Magic on August 10, 2009, 08:09:06 PM
Too slow.


I will cheer him on next weekend.  :cheers
Title: Joel Bowden set for farewell game against Pies (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on August 10, 2009, 09:55:19 PM
Joel Bowden set for farewell game against Pies
Julie Tullberg
August 10, 2009 07:51pm

RICHMOND defender Joel Bowden is set to play his last game for the Tigers this Saturday in the MCG clash against in-form Collingwood.

Asked whether he would consider applying for Brendan Gale's vacated role as AFL Players'
Association chief executive, Bowden told SEN said he had to play AFL footy before considering the role.

"I've got to play a couple of games before I retire, " Bowden said.

"So I'm going to concentrate on that, concentrate on my role as (AFL Players' Association) president and make sure we go through the right channels, talk to the right people and do this in the correct manner."

Bowden will celebrate his testimonial on Saturday night after the Collingwood-Richmond clash, which is likely to act as his farewell game.

Tickets to Bowden's testimonial dinner at the MCG are available from the Richmond Football Club.

"Looks like the game against Collingwood will be my last for the Richmond Football Club, " Bowden said.

"Hopefully it all goes well, that I can acquit myself well, play a good game and finish with Richmond on a high note and beat the Pies, who are playing good footy at the moment."

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25910539-19742,00.html
Title: One door opens, another … (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on August 11, 2009, 02:23:31 AM
One door opens, another …
Michael Gleeson | August 11, 2009

ON SATURDAY, Brendon Gale delivered his resignation as chief executive of the AFL Players Association to his former teammate Joel Bowden, the PA's president.

Today, Bowden will announce that his playing days at Richmond are over, just as his former teammate returns. He will play his last game against Collingwood on Saturday.

''It looks like the game against Collingwood at the weekend will be my last game for the Richmond Football Club,'' Bowden, 31, said on SEN last night.

''We have been talking to the club over the last six or seven weeks about whether or not I would be able to get back in the side and about whether or not I would be able to get a farewell game. It looks fairly certain that I will against Collingwood, [but] I can't say that 100 per cent.

''I will hopefully play my final game and celebrate upstairs with my testimonial dinner. Hopefully it all goes well, I can acquit myself well, play a good game and finish with Richmond on a high note and we can beat the Pies.''

The dual All-Australian and Jack Dyer medallist has not played since round 11 despite solid form in the VFL.

Richmond has flagged for some time that Bowden would likely be given a farewell, particularly with his testimonial dinner at the MCG on Saturday night.

Originally from Northern Territory, Bowden was drafted to Punt Road under the father-son rule and has played 264 games to be ninth on the club's list of most games played. He said last night that when he left home 14 years ago to embark on his career, his father, Michael, gave him two $50 notes and wished him luck. It was $100 well spent.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/rfnews/one-door-opens-another-8230/2009/08/10/1249756255924.html
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 11, 2009, 06:22:13 AM


* Kouta gave Joel a big wrap and said he should be very proud of his career as he could play all over the ground - forward, mid or down back on big blokes.

Joel gets more respect from the enermy than his own supporters
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Stripes on August 11, 2009, 10:46:31 AM
Joel will make a good CEO of the Players Association. Has the experience as president beneath Gale, is a confident speaker and strong personality. In some ways he was too smart to play football and his community work speaks volumes of the caliber of the guy.

I wish him every success against the wobbles and in his future.

Stripes
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 11, 2009, 11:40:39 AM
Joel will make a good CEO of the Players Association. Has the experience as president beneath Gale, is a confident speaker and strong personality. In some ways he was too smart to play football and his community work speaks volumes of the caliber of the guy.

I wish him every success against the wobbles and in his future.

Stripes

he is a smart bloke thats why his a teacher  ;D  :thumbsup
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 11, 2009, 05:54:21 PM
LMFAO Rawlings saying his bringing back Simmonds & Bowden to add muscle & experience.
Bring back the older players cause he found out the youngsters cant do what is required  :rollin so call the old troops to the front line  ;D staggering coaching

coach Jade  :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :jump
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on August 11, 2009, 06:51:37 PM
LMFAO Rawlings saying his bringing back Simmonds & Bowden to add muscle & experience.
Bring back the older players cause he found out the youngsters cant do what is required  :rollin so call the old troops to the front line  ;D staggering coaching
Try none of the above
Bringing the older players back to say goodbye
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 11, 2009, 07:23:23 PM
LMFAO Rawlings saying his bringing back Simmonds & Bowden to add muscle & experience.
Bring back the older players cause he found out the youngsters cant do what is required  :rollin so call the old troops to the front line  ;D staggering coaching
Try none of the above
Bringing the older players back to say goodbye

Infamy do actually go the games ???? ::)
We were flogged in the ruck last week,.
Watching McGauane the past 2 weeks, I know who i rather have down back , Joel :banghead
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: yellowandback on August 11, 2009, 07:36:34 PM
LMFAO Rawlings saying his bringing back Simmonds & Bowden to add muscle & experience.
Bring back the older players cause he found out the youngsters cant do what is required  :rollin so call the old troops to the front line  ;D staggering coaching

coach Jade  :chuck :chuck :chuck :chuck :jump

There is only one person making me  :chuck and it ain't Jade.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on August 11, 2009, 07:46:08 PM
LMFAO Rawlings saying his bringing back Simmonds & Bowden to add muscle & experience.
Bring back the older players cause he found out the youngsters cant do what is required  :rollin so call the old troops to the front line  ;D staggering coaching
Try none of the above
Bringing the older players back to say goodbye

Infamy do actually go the games ???? ::)
We were flogged in the ruck last week,.
Watching McGauane the past 2 weeks, I know who i rather have down back , Joel :banghead
Yes I go to the games, not all of them as I work some weekends on projects, but those I can do yes
Not sure what it has to do with anything though
Jolly and Goodes dominate most teams ruck divisions, going up against a tired Graham & 18 year old Vickery is hardly an even contest
As for Bowden over McGuane, firstly you'd probably rather Bowden over GAJ or Judd, secondly Bowden has one week left in the game, McGuane has 8-10 years. I know who I'd rather have playing.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 11, 2009, 08:17:21 PM
LMFAO Rawlings saying his bringing back Simmonds & Bowden to add muscle & experience.
Bring back the older players cause he found out the youngsters cant do what is required  :rollin so call the old troops to the front line  ;D staggering coaching
Try none of the above
Bringing the older players back to say goodbye

Infamy do actually go the games ???? ::)
We were flogged in the ruck last week,.
Watching McGauane the past 2 weeks, I know who i rather have down back , Joel :banghead
Yes I go to the games, not all of them as I work some weekends on projects, but those I can do yes
Not sure what it has to do with anything though
Jolly and Goodes dominate most teams ruck divisions, going up against a tired Graham & 18 year old Vickery is hardly an even contest
As for Bowden over McGuane, firstly you'd probably rather Bowden over GAJ or Judd, secondly Bowden has one week left in the game, McGuane has 8-10 years. I know who I'd rather have playing.

Well BRAIN SURGEON, why the eff wouldnt you bring Simmons in last week to help Vickery out ? . :banghead :banghead :banghead
And we had Post on Goodes for a quarter last week :banghead :banghead :banghead
If thats good coaching and developing young players,  :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Infamy on August 11, 2009, 08:33:45 PM
Because we are going up against Cameron Wood and maybe an underdone Josh Fraser. Hardly the same. I do expect Simmo to play, but not because we need the support in the ruck. He's been a better forward at Coburg this year anyway.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: DallasCrane on August 11, 2009, 08:40:20 PM

Well BRAIN SURGEON, why the eff wouldnt you bring Simmons in last week to help Vickery out ? . :banghead :banghead :banghead


Well Simmonds is in exactly the same boat as Bowden so there is no use playing him.
Vickery would've been OK with Tuck in the side, he helps out at the ruck more than you think, quite often goes 3rd man up in the ruck and crashes the body of the opposition ruckman.
Someone mentioned Vickery was concentrating too much on the other ruckman, that is true. It would be easier for Vickery to concentrate on ball only, if his opponent was worried about getting a knee in the back from Tuck.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Ox on August 11, 2009, 09:24:24 PM


he is a smart bloke thats why his a teacher  ;D  :thumbsup

his unreal and his the smartest guy in the world because his my hero,

He's playing was the best and he's skills were silky.

FLMFAFO.


Bowden put his body on the line every game he played.


(http://static0.unlike.net/system/photos/0033/4852/stoplying.jpg)
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 11, 2009, 09:27:21 PM


he is a smart bloke thats why his a teacher  ;D  :thumbsup

his unreal and his the smartest guy in the world because his my hero,

He's playing was the best and he's skills were silky.

FLMFAFO.


Bowden put his body on the line every game he played.


(http://static0.unlike.net/system/photos/0033/4852/stoplying.jpg)

looks like someone has been at the medicine cabinet again.

Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: 1965 on August 11, 2009, 09:29:41 PM
l,m a 368 Senior games player who can still get a senior game in country level. Have played VFA football in 94/95 & trained with Richmond football club in the VFL 1985 & walked away cause city life was not for me.

So what do you want.

Idiot.

stuffing idiot.

 :bow
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Ox on August 11, 2009, 09:32:50 PM
oh look...its 1965s shoelaces disappearing up Monks ars...again !  :lol
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 11, 2009, 09:52:20 PM
oh look...its 1965s shoelaces disappearing up Monks ars...again !  :lol

i just found out your real name............

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

man were your parents serious or are they are on the disco biscuits too like you.

LMAO
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: 1965 on August 11, 2009, 09:53:35 PM
oh look...its 1965s shoelaces disappearing up Monks ars...again !  :lol

i just found out your real name............

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

man were your parents serious or are they are on the disco biscuits too like you.

LMAO

So what's his real name?
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 11, 2009, 10:00:43 PM
oh look...its 1965s shoelaces disappearing up Monks ars...again !  :lol

i just found out your real name............

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

man were your parents serious or are they are on the disco biscuits too like you.

LMAO

So what's his real name?

na no names but put it this way id rather be called Terry Tanned up Wallet.

i think his parents called him that after watching saturday night fever. 
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: cub on August 11, 2009, 10:26:48 PM
 :rollin - entertaining stuff  :thumbsup
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 12, 2009, 06:53:59 AM
His a little greek  :shh who suffers a disability  :lol




Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Chuck17 on August 12, 2009, 09:25:08 AM
Well BRAIN SURGEON, why the eff wouldnt you bring Simmons in last week to help Vickery out ? . :banghead :banghead :banghead
And we had Post on Goodes for a quarter last week :banghead :banghead :banghead
If thats good coaching and developing young players,  :banghead :banghead

You develop young players by putting them in situations where they strive and learn from contests against better opposition players. 

Bringing in Simmonds will only take game time away from Vickery and Gus.

And re Post on Goodes so what, from memory it was in the third when the game was well and truly lost.  Hopefully he learnt something from playing on me, I would rather he gave it his all than being a protected species.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 12, 2009, 09:34:26 AM
Well BRAIN SURGEON, why the eff wouldnt you bring Simmons in last week to help Vickery out ? . :banghead :banghead :banghead
And we had Post on Goodes for a quarter last week :banghead :banghead :banghead
If thats good coaching and developing young players,  :banghead :banghead

You develop young players by putting them in situations where they strive and learn from contests against better opposition players. 

Bringing in Simmonds will only take game time away from Vickery and Gus.

And re Post on Goodes so what, from memory it was in the third when the game was well and truly lost.  Hopefully he learnt something from playing on me, I would rather he gave it his all than being a protected species.

Post would have learnt ZIP. Confidence destoyed you would think.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Chuck17 on August 12, 2009, 09:39:23 AM
Post would have learnt ZIP. Confidence destoyed you would think.

Only if he is a limp wristed pansy. 

Playing against better opponents shows you what areas you need to develop to become a good footballer, Post is touted as a KPP forward or back that needs to know where he has to be at to compete with the oppositions best. 

It was only for a quarter and a bit so it was hardly as if he was left out to dry for a whole game.
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: DallasCrane on August 12, 2009, 09:51:39 AM
Post would have learnt ZIP. Confidence destoyed you would think.

Only if he is a limp wristed pansy. 

Playing against better opponents shows you what areas you need to develop to become a good footballer, Post is touted as a KPP forward or back that needs to know where he has to be at to compete with the oppositions best. 

It was only for a quarter and a bit so it was hardly as if he was left out to dry for a whole game.

Correct Chuck. Post did handle it well, I was watching his reactions whilst he was getting owned by Goodes. He took it OK.




His a little greek  :shh who suffers a disability  :lol

How and why is that funny?
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 12, 2009, 11:34:16 AM
oh look...its 1965s shoelaces disappearing up Monks ars...again !  :lol

i just found out your real name............

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

man were your parents serious or are they are on the disco biscuits too like you.

LMAO




LMFAO at you wanker OX Brackets what ever  :rollin
l dont have show signiture on in the prefs so l missed you sharing my career l'm honored  :thumbsup

seeing you didnot play football cause your weak you can show my career around & make everyone think its yours  ;D :lol :rollin

you really need some help for your unstability
Title: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today / Bowden announces his retirement
Post by: taztiger4 on August 12, 2009, 11:39:45 AM
just anounced
Title: Re: All over for Joel / Bowden to retire according to Hutchy
Post by: Tigermonk on August 12, 2009, 11:40:45 AM
Well BRAIN SURGEON, why the eff wouldnt you bring Simmons in last week to help Vickery out ? . :banghead :banghead :banghead
And we had Post on Goodes for a quarter last week :banghead :banghead :banghead
If thats good coaching and developing young players,  :banghead :banghead

You develop young players by putting them in situations where they strive and learn from contests against better opposition players. 

Bringing in Simmonds will only take game time away from Vickery and Gus.

And re Post on Goodes so what, from memory it was in the third when the game was well and truly lost.  Hopefully he learnt something from playing on me, I would rather he gave it his all than being a protected species.

Post would have learnt ZIP. Confidence destoyed you would think.

like Wallace putting a inform tagger Hyde on Goodes
it destroyed his confidence playing on the dual Brownlow medalist & Hyde never recovered from it & got the ass
Richmond lost the game because of that matchup & things like that got Wallace the ass & Jade is following his teacher well & will get the ass cause his a scapegoat anyway.

Post should have never been put on him
it was McGuane or Thursfield jobs but the 2 oldest sydney players smashed them it was a joke
Gasper would have stopped Goodes ;D bring him back  :rollin
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Moi on August 12, 2009, 11:46:33 AM
I'll enjoy this  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Tigermonk on August 12, 2009, 11:47:33 AM
oh no that will make me cry my favorite player leaving  ;D l'm going to have to follow a new player maybe #11 again, na they prob put McLovin in it :lol

hope they can replace him with a good player  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Tigermonk on August 12, 2009, 11:52:13 AM
I'll enjoy this  :thumbsup

seriously you think its going to bother me him retiring  ;D many have gone before him
would laugh if he said he will continue his career at another club  ;D
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Moi on August 12, 2009, 11:53:07 AM
I'll enjoy this  :thumbsup

seriously you think its going to bother me him retiring  ;D many have gone before him
would laugh if he said he will continue his career at another club  ;D
Yeah, but the joke would be on the other club
I hope you're right  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Tigermonk on August 12, 2009, 11:56:56 AM
well lets see what he says
the wife just got in for lunch & l told her, it affect her cause Joel is her favorite player she be crying at the game & shes a skunk haha
she wants me to record it for her so she can watch it when she knocks off  :rollin
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: DallasCrane on August 12, 2009, 12:01:03 PM
the wife just got in for lunch & l told her, it affect her cause Joel is her favorite player she be crying at the game & shes a skunk haha
she wants me to record it for her so she can watch it when she knocks off  :rollin

No one cares TM.
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Moi on August 12, 2009, 12:01:50 PM
well lets see what he says
the wife just got in for lunch & l told her, it affect her cause Joel is her favorite player she be crying at the game & shes a skunk haha
she wants me to record it for her so she can watch it when she knocks off  :rollin
They'll go through the highlights of his career
So you better not miss it becuase it'll be a short conference
Don't want your missus to miss that hey lol
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Tigermonk on August 12, 2009, 12:27:43 PM
stupid  :lol we seen all the Richmond games Joel played
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Moi on August 12, 2009, 12:30:04 PM
stupid  :lol we seen all the Richmond games Joel played
That's fair enough, I can understand you've seen enough  :rollin
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: taztiger4 on August 12, 2009, 12:31:11 PM
here is a 14 year player , a son of one of our Premiership players  and you disrespectful assholes continue to bag him

sickening really
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Moi on August 12, 2009, 12:37:32 PM
here is a 14 year player , a son of one of our Premiership players  and you disrespectful assholes continue to bag him

sickening really
Only trying to get a rise out of Monk
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: one-eyed on August 12, 2009, 03:08:28 PM
Snip! Stick to the topic people.

Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: one-eyed on August 12, 2009, 03:22:58 PM
Joel's press conference is on now at Punt Rd...

* Final AFL game against Collingwood this Saturday. He's retiring from footy.

* He understands and respects the Club's position in looking towards the future and him not being part of that.

* a lot of work with the AFLPA to do with getting it ready for the new CEO. That won't be him because his job as president runs to February.

* Pleased that him and the Club are going the same way in thought.
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Moi on August 12, 2009, 03:27:35 PM
Snip! Stick to the topic people.


Lovely housekeeping One-Eyed  :-*

Daniel  ::)

 :gotigers
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: bojangles17 on August 12, 2009, 03:36:29 PM
here is a 14 year player , a son of one of our Premiership players  and you disrespectful assholes continue to bag him

sickening really

i couldnt agree more, amazes me that so called supporters choose to pour scorn on the only decent players we have in last couple of decades, somehow blinding themselves from the litany of duds that have underlined the plight we find ourselves in...I could fill a couple of Vols of the Brittanica on the parody of stuff ups ...How any of that relates to a player that achieved 250 games, 2 AA and a couple of B&Fs, let em say, if every draft choice reached those heights, we wouldnt be arguing the toss right now....Bloody imbeciles some people :o
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Tigermonk on August 12, 2009, 03:43:22 PM
well said Bojangles  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Moi on August 12, 2009, 03:50:49 PM
here is a 14 year player , a son of one of our Premiership players  and you disrespectful assholes continue to bag him

sickening really

i couldnt agree more, amazes me that so called supporters choose to pour scorn on the only decent players we have in last couple of decades, somehow blinding themselves from the litany of duds that have underlined the plight we find ourselves in...I could fill a couple of Vols of the Brittanica on the parody of stuff ups ...How any of that relates to a player that achieved 250 games, 2 AA and a couple of B&Fs, let em say, if every draft choice reached those heights, we wouldnt be arguing the toss right now....Bloody imbeciles some people :o
You never let us down, Bo
Always ready to get on your high horse
You're such a joy  ::)
Title: Richmond's Bowden announces retirement (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on August 12, 2009, 04:07:57 PM
Richmond's Bowden announces retirement
August 12, 2009 - 3:59PM

Richmond veteran Joel Bowden has confirmed his retirement and will play his last senior game on Saturday against Collingwood.

Bowden, 31, has played 264 matches since his 1996 debut.

But he has been in the VFL since Jade Rawlings took over as senior coach mid-season and it was widely expected that this would be his last season.

"I'm certainly a better person, richer for the experience," Bowden said at Wednesday's media conference.

"I see myself as extremely fortunate ... it's been an honour, a privilege."

Bowden said he wanted to keep playing in the AFL, but added he understood the club's position.

He is also the AFL Players' Association president and will have an added workload there for the next couple of months after the retirement of chief executive Brendon Gale.

Bowden and Gale played together and Gale will now return to the Tigers as their new chief executive.

He will step down as AFLPA president next February and is unsure if he will have a future role in the AFL.

http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaking-news-sport/richmonds-bowden-announces-retirement-20090812-ehke.html
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today / Bowden announces his retirement
Post by: Tigermonk on August 12, 2009, 04:20:31 PM
 ;D stay tuned  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: bojangles17 on August 12, 2009, 05:03:43 PM
here is a 14 year player , a son of one of our Premiership players  and you disrespectful assholes continue to bag him

sickening really

i couldnt agree more, amazes me that so called supporters choose to pour scorn on the only decent players we have in last couple of decades, somehow blinding themselves from the litany of duds that have underlined the plight we find ourselves in...I could fill a couple of Vols of the Brittanica on the parody of stuff ups ...How any of that relates to a player that achieved 250 games, 2 AA and a couple of B&Fs, let em say, if every draft choice reached those heights, we wouldnt be arguing the toss right now....Bloody imbeciles some people :o
You never let us down, Bo
Always ready to get on your high horse
You're such a joy  ::)

thanks for the support froarsy, simply defending the honour of one our clubs finest, it's the very least I could do...any SUPPORTER would do the same :shh
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Moi on August 12, 2009, 05:13:30 PM
here is a 14 year player , a son of one of our Premiership players  and you disrespectful assholes continue to bag him

sickening really

i couldnt agree more, amazes me that so called supporters choose to pour scorn on the only decent players we have in last couple of decades, somehow blinding themselves from the litany of duds that have underlined the plight we find ourselves in...I could fill a couple of Vols of the Brittanica on the parody of stuff ups ...How any of that relates to a player that achieved 250 games, 2 AA and a couple of B&Fs, let em say, if every draft choice reached those heights, we wouldnt be arguing the toss right now....Bloody imbeciles some people :o
You never let us down, Bo
Always ready to get on your high horse
You're such a joy  ::)

thanks for the support froarsy, simply defending the honour of one our clubs finest, it's the very least I could do...any SUPPORTER would do the same :shh
Thanks for the support yourself.  I clearly said I was just trying to get a rise out of Monk  ::)
You know, tongue in cheek stuff
 :banghead
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today / Bowden announces his retirement
Post by: one-eyed on August 12, 2009, 05:24:23 PM
Some pics from Joel's media conference

http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202009%20Media%20-%20Joel%20Bowden%20Media%20Conference%20120809 (http://www.aflphotos.com.au/galleries/results/?q=collection:AFL%202009%20Media%20-%20Joel%20Bowden%20Media%20Conference%20120809)
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today
Post by: Chuck17 on August 12, 2009, 05:25:05 PM
Thanks for the support yourself.  I clearly said I was just trying to get a rise out of Monk  ::)
You know, tongue in cheek stuff
 :banghead

Shirley you cant be serious
Title: Bowden pulls pin (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on August 12, 2009, 06:22:29 PM
Bowden pulls pin
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen Wed 12 August, 2009

RICHMOND'S Joel Bowden announced his retirement from AFL football on Wednesday.

Bowden will play his 265th and final match against Collingwood on Saturday at the MCG.

Bowden last played an AFL match in round 11 this year against the Bulldogs, gathering 32 disposals.

That was also Terry Wallace's last game as coach. When caretaker Jade Rawlings took the reins, the youth policy instigated at the club saw the Tiger veteran go to the VFL.

The 31-year-old was philosophical about his extended stint in the VFL this year, saying he understood the club's position.

"I would have liked to have played more games, but at the same time I see myself as extremely fortunate and lucky to be given the opportunity to play here," Bowden said in the social club at Punt Rd on Wednesday afternoon.

"Only on reflection has it dawned on me the honour and the privilege of playing AFL football.

"It [retirement] has been brought on by the fact that we haven't had a great successful era - 2001 was the last time that we played finals, and I understand and respect the wishes of the football club."

The consummate team man, Bowden still had the team in the forefront of his mind when thinking about this weekend's game.

"I'll be playing my last game and hopefully it'll be a good one – hopefully we can play well," he said.

"Collingwood have been in good form, and if we can acquit ourselves well, we'll be a chance to knock them off.

"It's an important game, and after last weekend game we need to acquit ourselves well, and I need to make sure that I go out on a good note, and hopefully that's playing well and having a win."

Bowden said his time at Richmond had been terrific, and had many great memories and experiences.

Bowden last missed a game through injury in round four, 1998, and said he wanted to make more time for his family, in addition to looking at doing a post-graduate course at university in business or administration.

Bowden explained how being a footballer meant he had never taken his kids to the snow, something he planned to rectify next year.

"I had an unfortunate weekend a couple of weekends ago, when my brothers were in town, and they took my kids to the snow, and I was really disappointed, because that's something I want to do with them," Bowden said.

"And next year, hopefully there's an opportunity where I can chuck them in the car, drive up there and make some snowballs and throw them around.

"My family comes first – for me, I need to be a good father and a good husband."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/82578/default.aspx
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today / Bowden announces his retirement
Post by: Tigermonk on August 12, 2009, 06:35:14 PM
How can anyone get dropped after having 32 disposals in a game & he played well that day  :banghead
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today / Bowden announces his retirement
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 12, 2009, 07:06:00 PM
I think all of the RFC army should go this weekend and give him a great send off. He deserves it
Excellent person.
Excellent footballer.
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today / Bowden announces his retirement
Post by: Rodgerramjet on August 12, 2009, 07:24:29 PM
Yes he was
Title: Re: Joel Press Conf @ 3 today / Bowden announces his retirement
Post by: mightytiges on August 12, 2009, 07:38:09 PM
All the best to Joel in whatever he does in life after footy  :clapping.

How can anyone get dropped after having 32 disposals in a game & he played well that day  :banghead
Today explains why. He wasn't part of the team's future as it was his last year. Plus footy isn't just about raking up kicks and handballs these days. We did get flogged by 10 goals in that game.
Title: Loyal Tiger takes his curtain call (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on August 13, 2009, 04:26:01 AM
Loyal Tiger takes his curtain call
Martin Boulton | August 13, 2009

SOME retiring AFL players hang up their boots with an eye towards a possible assistant coaching job. A few open pubs, some have aspirations to join the media and some settle for regaling dinner companions with stories of their on-filed heroics.

Richmond veteran Joel Bowden has more than a few ideas about his life post-football, but for now the 31-year-old is simply looking forward to a few precious days on the snowfields with his children.

''I haven't spent a weekend at the snow, and that's something I plan to do,'' the dual All-Australian said.

''A couple of weeks ago, when my brothers were in town, they took my kids to the snow and I was really disappointed - that's something I want to do with them.''

For the past 14 winters, Bowden's weekends have revolved around his unwavering commitment to Richmond, which he first represented in round 17, 1996. He plays his 265th and final game for the Tigers against Collingwood on Saturday - his 143rd game at the MCG. ''That's where I've worked, on the biggest stage of all, and it's been sensational,'' he said yesterday.

Drafted to the Tigers under the league's father-son rule, Bowden recalls his father - 1969 premiership player Michael - talking about the club's ''time of great success'' long before he came to Punt Road.

''I probably didn't really understand that until a couple of years ago, when I'd only played in one finals series. When I arrived in 1996, Richmond had just played in a preliminary final and I thought all my Christmases had come at once - Richmond was on the way back up and I was going to be part of a successful team.

''That didn't occur straight away. It took a little while and a change of coach or two before we did make the finals.''

He's proud to have played on some of the game's brightest stars, including Nathan Buckley, James Hird and Robert Harvey during his days as a midfielder, and the likes of Jonathan Brown, Nick Riewoldt and Brendan Fevola in more recent years as a defender.

Bowden leaves the club in a state of transition, desperate to again become a force in September.

While there's obvious disappointment with the club's lack of on-field success, Bowden has an enormous capacity to look on the bright side of life.

''I left Alice Springs when I was 17, moved down and played with 250-odd players, met some great people, had some great experiences and will be better for it,'' he said.

''I'll leave Richmond as a better person, richer for the experience of being here.''

Bowden twice won the club's best and fairest award, twice represented Australia against Ireland and ends his career fourth on the club's list of games played.

''I won't miss the scrutiny and probably won't miss the early-morning starts, but on the whole AFL footy is a great occupation … I've enjoyed it immeasurably.

''I'll miss the fact footy gives you so many opportunities.''

Bowden will step down as president of the AFL Players Association at the end of his term in February.

After that, he's free to plan a holiday in the snow and explore the next stage of his life, which he says could involve post-graduate study and maybe, one day, a return to football.

''I've got a broad amount of experience … if that leads me back to football, an industry that has given me so much, I'd be happy to entertain that thought and perhaps give something back.''

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/loyal-tiger-takes-his-curtain-call/2009/08/12/1249756351713.html
Title: Farewell to a true gentleman (Sportal)
Post by: one-eyed on August 13, 2009, 04:27:19 AM
Farewell to a true gentleman
12/08/2009 7:20 PM
Paul Gough

Joel Bowden's retirement is not just a sad day for Richmond fans but for those of us who earn our living writing about AFL players and a game becoming increasingly sterilised in terms of player/media relations.

The Richmond veteran, who announced his retirement on Wednesday at some would say the premature age of 31, is a throw back to the old days when players and the media could chat happily and openly about just about any subject.

Bowden may not leave the game as a premiership player - unlike his father Michael - but when it comes to class and decency off the field he is in a league of his own.

Full article at:
http://sportal.com.au/AFL-opinion-display/farewell-to-a-true-gentleman-75760
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 13, 2009, 06:37:30 AM
Anyone notice something about yesterday, that when other clubs have press conferences & players are retiring.  That they have someone from the club sitting each side of the player to anounce his retirement & speak about what a great service that player has given to the club after all them years & wish him the best in the future.
Richmond is a club l see going downhill in terms of loyalty & appreceation to those who have served the football club. Bowden earned more respect than that & it clearly shows a rift.

Other younger players will see how others before them are treated & wouldnot suprise me if players like Deledio, Tambling, Cotchin are not at the club a few years.
Lets hope that Gale & some other new faces change the club & turn it around to treat players better
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 13, 2009, 07:13:48 AM
Well done Joel and congratulations on your career

260 odd games very few can claim that

Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on August 13, 2009, 09:01:23 AM
Best Wishes Joel on a great career.  :clapping

Today explains why. He wasn't part of the team's future as it was his last year. Plus footy isn't just about raking up kicks and handballs these days. We did get flogged by 10 goals in that game.

Yep lets develop a champion team instead of a team with a few champions in it.
Title: Bowden highlights (RFC)
Post by: one-eyed on August 13, 2009, 04:08:08 PM
Bowden rewound
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen Thu 13 August, 2009

A few highlights rack up over a 265-game career. Here are six of the best from Tigers veteran Joel Bowden.

1. Round eight, 1997 v West Coast
Bowden announced himself to the AFL world, kicking four goals straight in just his 13th game as the Tigers won by a point at the MCG. Damaged his shoulder during the game and missed the next 10 rounds.

2. Round 13, 2001 v St Kilda
Starred, kicking his best ever bag of five goals.

3. Round four, 2003 v St Kilda
Bowden baulked three Saints in succession before booting a great goal.

Bowden said of the shot: "I remember getting possession from Adam Houlihan about 50 metres from goal, and then finding I had to get past three Saints, including Robert Harvey. I somehow managed to baulk or sidestep one after the other, so that I could have a clear shot at goal. I then used a drop punt with my left foot that went through for a goal, much to my relief. I was pleased to have kicked the goal, but the best part came when some of my teammates rushed in to congratulate me. That's always the best part of it as a team game, and it's really exciting to see everyone so pumped."

The goal was nominated as one of the best 10 Tiger goals in last year's centenary celebrations.

4. Round eight, 2006 v Adelaide
 Bowden waxed (not poetically) across half-back with brother Patrick. They combined for 62 possessions as the Tigers won by a point.

5. Round 16, 2008 v Essendon
Late in the game, the Tigers led by six points and Bowden had the ball in the defensive goalsquare after an Essendon behind. Unable to find a target to kick to, Bowden twice retreated over the goal-line, giving up two behinds before finding teammate Jordan McMahon as the siren sounded.

The tactic put the whole strategy of teams rushing behinds under the microscope, and saw the rule changed after the season. Bowden jokingly blamed the tactic on McMahon, saying his inability to get away from the lumbering Jason Laycock until his third attempt to kick it in had forced the actions on him.

6. Round 17, 2008 v Brisbane Lions
Having played in defence for most of the year (he had kicked just five goals for the season to that point), Bowden kicked four straight, with the last one sealing the game for the Tigers just before the final siren.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/82613/default.aspx
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: mat073 on August 13, 2009, 04:32:21 PM
Rd 8 1997...we beat WCE by one point....try 52 pts.

!2 goals to 1 at half time.

Not that it really matters.
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 13, 2009, 04:37:05 PM
Rd 8 1997...we beat WCE by one point....try 52 pts.

!2 goals to 1 at half time.

Not that it really matters.


remember that game quite well, we looked so good, wy the f do we always stuff up
maybe we are jinxed as a club
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: the_boy_jake on August 13, 2009, 04:49:11 PM
Rd 8 1997...we beat WCE by one point....try 52 pts.

!2 goals to 1 at half time.

Not that it really matters.


Was that a Monday night game?
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 13, 2009, 05:08:04 PM
19-May-1997  Round 8  Richmond 4.2  12.4  15.10  18.11.119   West Coast 1.4  1.8  5.11  9.13.67   M.C.G.  Crowd 26,721   



Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: mat073 on August 13, 2009, 05:17:33 PM
Rd 8 1997...we beat WCE by one point....try 52 pts.

!2 goals to 1 at half time.

Not that it really matters.


Was that a Monday night game?


Yes :thumbsup
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 13, 2009, 10:01:08 PM
Lets hope he has 50 possesions and gets 3 votes and sticks it up everyone
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 13, 2009, 10:03:37 PM
Lets hope he has 50 possesions and gets 3 votes and sticks it up everyone

Jack it's not how many times you get the thing it's what you do with it

Quality over quantity

Rather see him get 15 possies and kick 3 goals than him get 30+ possessions
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 13, 2009, 10:05:12 PM
Lets hope he has 50 possesions and gets 3 votes and sticks it up everyone

Jack it's not how many times you get the thing it's what you do with it

Quality over quantity

Rather see him get 15 possies and kick 3 goals than him get 30+ possessions

I know that, Figure of speech
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on August 13, 2009, 10:06:23 PM
Lets hope he has 50 possesions and gets 3 votes and sticks it up everyone

I hope he has a real good game too but I will stay away from Joel's personal actions  :o
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 14, 2009, 09:33:13 AM
Rawlings conflict with Bowden will see him put in a position where he wont have much inpact on the game
Rawlings & RFC wont want to be shown they were wrong & that also goes for Shane Tuck
Too many wrong decisions at Richmond. Hope the medical staff are given the day off.  ;D
Title: Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers: Rawlings (Fairfax)
Post by: one-eyed on August 14, 2009, 02:46:06 PM
Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers
Sam Lienert
August 14, 2009 - 2:09PM .

Richmond caretaker coach Jade Rawlings says the Tigers want to acknowledge Joel Bowden's contribution to the club when he plays his last AFL match against Collingwood at the MCG on Saturday.

The 31-year-old two-time best and fairest has been out of the side since Rawlings took over ahead of round 12, but has been recalled for a 265th and final game against the Magpies.

"It's important to acknowledge him, he's been an outstanding contributor to the footy club and he's Richmond through and through," Rawlings said.

"The players hold him in high regard, as does the whole footy club, so we'll go about it in a reasonable way internally and acknowledge what he's done and then he has his testimonial to follow up tomorrow night.

"It would be good to go to that function after a win."

http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaking-news-sport/bowdens-afl-farewell-to-inspire-tigers-20090814-ekse.html
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: bushranger on August 14, 2009, 03:26:44 PM
That what was in the last post would be a no brainer.
He is, and aways will be a Tiger.
So Rawlings saying this is only to make himself look better. I think anyway.
Title: Re: Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers: Rawlings (Fairfax)
Post by: Tigermonk on August 15, 2009, 07:49:55 AM
Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers
Sam Lienert
August 14, 2009 - 2:09PM .

Richmond caretaker coach Jade Rawlings says the Tigers want to acknowledge Joel Bowden's contribution to the club when he plays his last AFL match against Collingwood at the MCG on Saturday.

The 31-year-old two-time best and fairest has been out of the side since Rawlings took over ahead of round 12, but has been recalled for a 265th and final game against the Magpies.

"It's important to acknowledge him, he's been an outstanding contributor to the footy club and he's Richmond through and through," Rawlings said.

"The players hold him in high regard, as does the whole footy club, so we'll go about it in a reasonable way internally and acknowledge what he's done and then he has his testimonial to follow up tomorrow night.

"It would be good to go to that function after a win."

http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaking-news-sport/bowdens-afl-farewell-to-inspire-tigers-20090814-ekse.html

where was March, Rawlings, Cameron,  when Bowden was doing his press conference  :chuck sad the Richmond football club
Title: Re: Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers: Rawlings (Fairfax)
Post by: WilliamPowell on August 15, 2009, 08:17:09 AM
where was March, Rawlings, Cameron,  when Bowden was doing his press conference  :chuck sad the Richmond football club

Why don't you ask Joel  :rollin ;D ;) ;D
Title: Re: Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers: Rawlings (Fairfax)
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 15, 2009, 08:17:44 AM
Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers
Sam Lienert
August 14, 2009 - 2:09PM .

Richmond caretaker coach Jade Rawlings says the Tigers want to acknowledge Joel Bowden's contribution to the club when he plays his last AFL match against Collingwood at the MCG on Saturday.

The 31-year-old two-time best and fairest has been out of the side since Rawlings took over ahead of round 12, but has been recalled for a 265th and final game against the Magpies.

"It's important to acknowledge him, he's been an outstanding contributor to the footy club and he's Richmond through and through," Rawlings said.

"The players hold him in high regard, as does the whole footy club, so we'll go about it in a reasonable way internally and acknowledge what he's done and then he has his testimonial to follow up tomorrow night.

"It would be good to go to that function after a win."

http://news.brisbanetimes.com.au/breaking-news-sport/bowdens-afl-farewell-to-inspire-tigers-20090814-ekse.html

where was March, Rawlings, Cameron,  when Bowden was doing his press conference  :chuck sad the Richmond football club

Yet another player hung out to dry.
Title: Re: Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers: Rawlings (Fairfax)
Post by: Tigermonk on August 15, 2009, 08:29:20 AM
where was March, Rawlings, Cameron,  when Bowden was doing his press conference  :chuck sad the Richmond football club

Why don't you ask Joel  :rollin ;D ;) ;D

already know  ;D
Title: Re: Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers: Rawlings (Fairfax)
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 15, 2009, 08:33:48 AM
where was March, Rawlings, Cameron,  when Bowden was doing his press conference  :chuck sad the Richmond football club

Why don't you ask Joel  :rollin ;D ;) ;D

already know  ;D
Well lets us all in and tell us why!
Title: Re: Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers: Rawlings (Fairfax)
Post by: Tigermonk on August 15, 2009, 08:39:48 AM

Well lets us all in and tell us why!

if l told you would have to terminate you  ;D
Title: Re: Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers: Rawlings (Fairfax)
Post by: Go Richo 12 on August 15, 2009, 08:43:48 AM

Well lets us all in and tell us why!

if l told you would have to terminate you  ;D
So you dont really know then!
Title: Re: Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers: Rawlings (Fairfax)
Post by: Tigermonk on August 15, 2009, 08:45:57 AM

Well lets us all in and tell us why!

if l told you would have to terminate you  ;D
So you dont really know then!

No l do know but its Joel who can tell the supporters, maybe he will write it in his book. It should be called How the Tigers bit my tail off  ;D
Title: Re: Bowden's AFL farewell to inspire Tigers: Rawlings (Fairfax)
Post by: yellowandback on August 15, 2009, 10:35:09 AM
 :cuddles

Well lets us all in and tell us why!

if l told you would have to terminate you  ;D
So you dont really know then!

No l do know but its Joel who can tell the supporters, maybe he will write it in his book. It should be called How the Tigers bit my tail off  ;D
:cuddles


Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Ox on August 15, 2009, 12:44:42 PM
First chapter in Joels book.

1-Being Me

"I started as a promising youngster,the only truly talented sibling of my litter.
For the first couple of seasons of my career I showed flair and impressive level of skill.
It was then i realised,i didn't have to work as hard as everybody else - i was "one of those" players!"
Unfortunately being elite attracts its critics whose motives are essentially driven by jealousy.
Being so good,it's fair to say i was a victim of such crimes.
Being bigger than the club was also a problem for me.
It's not as though i asked for it,it's just that,i guess,someone has to bear the burden of perfection.

============================================================================


Well done Joel.
Thanks for the memories!
Best of luck with the future.
 :clapping
If only the club had have done it your way
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: wayne on August 15, 2009, 03:21:30 PM
The only guy putting his hand up today, he should go around again next year...  ::)
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 15, 2009, 03:31:54 PM
Joel needs to go out on a personal blaze of glory now that we are definentely not going to win. I would respect him more if he did this. Find that little twirp Thomas and knock him out, then remonstrate with a few others and throw a few the way Brown Lynch and Wakelin were throwing haymakers in the 2004 Grand Final. It's not as if he's playing next week. Then he can honestly come off the ground with his head held high.


By the way () )( great assessment. :clapping
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 15, 2009, 05:57:36 PM
Interesting the only coach that came onto the ground at the end of the game was Cambo.
Rawlings wasnt there and either were the others.
Thats poohouse
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Fluffy Tiger on August 15, 2009, 06:08:27 PM
Goodbye Joel and thank you. I enjoyed watching you play. Your class as a player was sometimes takes as lazyness or softness but I loved watching you cruise though packs.

A true Tiger Champion.
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: DallasCrane on August 15, 2009, 06:08:57 PM
Joel needs to go out on a personal blaze of glory now that we are definentely not going to win. I would respect him more if he did this. Find that little twirp Thomas and knock him out, then remonstrate with a few others and throw a few the way Brown Lynch and Wakelin were throwing haymakers in the 2004 Grand Final. It's not as if he's playing next week. Then he can honestly come off the ground with his head held high.


By the way () )( great assessment. :clapping

Well. he had his chance for that in the 2nd qu Tucker, when 4 players stacked on top of Kingy. Players came running from all over the ground to support him. Joel, who was standing right next to it, reached in underneath Kingy, while he still had 4 players on top of him, and grabbed the ball so he could hand it to the umpire.

That footage will be replayed over and over tomorrow, watch it, and I urge all Joel supporters to watch what he does while a team mate is getting crushed.

It is the softest thing that I have seen in Joel Bowden's career, and there has been plenty of those moments in his career.

Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Moi on August 15, 2009, 06:13:41 PM
First chapter in Joels book.

1-Being Me

"I started as a promising youngster,the only truly talented sibling of my litter.
For the first couple of seasons of my career I showed flair and impressive level of skill.
It was then i realised,i didn't have to work as hard as everybody else - i was "one of those" players!"
Unfortunately being elite attracts its critics whose motives are essentially driven by jealousy.
Being so good,it's fair to say i was a victim of such crimes.
Being bigger than the club was also a problem for me.
It's not as though i asked for it,it's just that,i guess,someone has to bear the burden of perfection.

============================================================================


Well done Joel.
Thanks for the memories!
Best of luck with the future.
 :clapping
If only the club had have done it your way

:rollin
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on August 15, 2009, 06:32:34 PM
Joel needs to go out on a personal blaze of glory now that we are definentely not going to win. I would respect him more if he did this. Find that little twirp Thomas and knock him out, then remonstrate with a few others and throw a few the way Brown Lynch and Wakelin were throwing haymakers in the 2004 Grand Final. It's not as if he's playing next week. Then he can honestly come off the ground with his head held high.


By the way () )( great assessment. :clapping

Well. he had his chance for that in the 2nd qu Tucker, when 4 players stacked on top of Kingy. Players came running from all over the ground to support him. Joel, who was standing right next to it, reached in underneath Kingy, while he still had 4 players on top of him, and grabbed the ball so he could hand it to the umpire.

That footage will be replayed over and over tomorrow, watch it, and I urge all Joel supporters to watch what he does while a team mate is getting crushed.

It is the softest thing that I have seen in Joel Bowden's career, and there has been plenty of those moments in his career.



DC i noticed it as well, you also see Nathan Brown stand right next to Joel while its happening looking at the umpire waiting for the eventual ball up. Didn't look good at all.
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on August 15, 2009, 07:26:45 PM
Also noticed that again Joel doesn't sweat that much.

I would have thought with a few games in the VFL on smaller ground with a slower pace he would have had to work twice as hard to get the ball hence breaking a decent sweat.

Don't want to get into this argument, all the best Joel.
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Infamy on August 15, 2009, 08:25:01 PM
Thought it was an appropriate way for Bowden to go out of the game
Did nothing all day few sideways kicks then got a dozen disposals in the last quarter after we were down by 97 points at 3/4 time
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 16, 2009, 02:20:28 AM
Very apt the way Joel's career ended.
Of course there will be others who will claim his 25 posessions were of the highest quality. Anyway it's all over now..............

Good luck
Title: Joel Bowden out on a sad note (Herald-Sun)
Post by: one-eyed on August 16, 2009, 04:15:41 AM
Joel Bowden out on a sad note
Jackie Epstein | August 16, 2009

IT was more like a nightmare for retiring Richmond veteran Joel Bowden but he hopes it will be remembered. If there is any good that can come from a 93-point thrashing it's the sting that goes with it.

"It's not a great result but it will perhaps make them stronger," Bowden said after the game.

"It didn't kill them so it could make them better."

They may prove to be prophetic words but, ever the optimist, Bowden is encouraged by the club's direction.

"I've always tried to do the best that I can," he said.

"In being a leader you need to have a positive influence on others as well. You can play footy but you need to also try to develop and help, and be that positive influence.

''I hope that something that I've done over the past 10 years has rubbed off on a few. And I know it has."

Bowden, 31, was playing his 265th and final game. He was flanked by wife Katie and children Alice and Charles as he walked off the MCG.

"It's not the best way to finish," he said.

"I've been pretty controlled. (Regarding the future) I'm not sure yet, some study next year, some family time and hopefully some paid employment."

The mood at last night's testimonial was perhaps blunted by the loss, but Bowden would love nothing more than to see the Tigers have success.

He was recruited from Alice Springs in the 1995 national draft under the father-son rule and leaves as a two-time best-and-fairest winner and dual All-Australian.

His father, Michael, played 59 games for the Tigers and was a member of the club's 1969 premiership side, while his brothers Sean and Patrick also played for the club.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25934586-19771,00.html
Title: He might look mad as a hatter, but Bowden will be missed: Browny (Age)
Post by: one-eyed on August 16, 2009, 04:17:06 AM
He might look mad as a hatter, but Bowden will be missed
Nathan Brown | August 16, 2009

MOST footballers would know the Hollywood blockbuster Any Given Sunday and would have drawn some inspiration from the speech that an ageing Al Pacino gave his NFL team. Part of the address particularly relates to ageing footballers:

"You know, when you get old in life, things get taken from you. I mean that's … part of life. But you only learn that when you start losing stuff. You find out life's this game of inches. So is football. Because in either game, life or football, the margin for error is so small - I mean one half-a-step too late, or too early, and you don't quite make it. One half-second too slow, too fast, you don't quite catch it. The inches we need are everywhere around us."

I first watched the film at Joel Bowden's house and yesterday Joel played his 265th and final game for the Richmond Football Club. Thirty-one isn't old. Many people that age haven't even figured out what they want to do with their lives, yet as a footballer you have already had a career, grown so much, had the highest of highs and the lowest of lows, played on the biggest stages and met so many great people along the way.

I remember when my old Bulldogs captain Scott Wynd retired. He stood up in front of the boys, this mountain of a man, shed a tear, told stories and shared a laugh. But the thing that stuck in my mind was him saying: "You'll wake up one day and wonder where the last 10 years went. Make the most of it. They're the best years of your life and they fly by in an instant."

I was only 21 and couldn't fathom what he was talking about. I thought the next 10 years of my life would last forever, but here we are 10 years on and true to ''Wyndy's'' words, time flies.

Joel is Richmond through and through and whatever he turns his hand to next, he will be a success. But it's still a sobering thought to think that what he has done religiously for the last 14 years has just come to an end.

Joel can polarise people's opinions and he would be the first to admit that he is not everyone's cup of tea, but when you spend time with him you start to respect and appreciate the way he conducts his life. He's an intelligent, giving person who lives for his family. His kids are the luckiest children alive having a parent like Joel.

To play AFL you have to have a thick skin - coaches' sprays, scrutiny and teammates' ribbing are part of everyday life and ''The Bowd'' has copped plenty over the years.

One of my favourite memories was in Ireland in 2004 when Joel and I were representing Australia. A few people hadn't spent much time with Joel and might have been put slightly offside by his outspoken ways. We had just been smashed by the Irish and were required at an after-match function.

Joel rocks in with this ridiculous top hat that would have been 30 centimetres high off his head and a black cane. This infuriated a few of the coaches and selectors. One well-known All Australian selector sidled up to Joel and recommended that he remove the stupid hat. The hat stayed on all night. Joel would have influenced a lot of players he has played with and he has helped me become more understanding of people who don't see things the way I do.

He's a different cat, Joel. I get in his car and he's listening to ABC talkback, but he's one of the first blokes I love to have a laugh and a beer with. Don't be surprised one day if he's running the United Nations or some left-wing political party.

Football careers go very quickly and you need to make the most of your opportunities; 265 games, two All-Australian, two best and fairests and a person who walks away holding his head high - maybe even in a top hat. Well done, Joel.

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/joel-bowden-will-be-missed/2009/08/15/1249756479986.html
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 16, 2009, 08:24:31 AM
He only wanted to wave goodbye to the cheer squad who supported him for 14 years. He got the matchday football he can kick that around with his kids cause what l seen today from every Richmond player & coaches was Pathetic.

he got shafted by the club who cant even come out when a player retires & thank him publicly while Collingwood supporters were even clearly seen cheering him off

For not fighting Joel thats not a good sign but l suppose when a club turns thier back on you like March, Cameron & Rawlings then why should he.
if it was me out there l would have been punching them off King but not every player is a fighter. Richmond dont have many sad to say.
Hope they seen & learnt something yesterday
 
seen Joel leading into open many times & was clear to recieve ball & Richmond took the 2 on 1 option everytime to  turn it over. PATHETIC.
Saying Bowden dont sweat Popelord  :rollin your a effing idiot  :lol are you a trainer or something thats standing next to him checking out his sweat. your deluded effoff back to the forums you come from.

McMahon brought to club by Wallace to replace Bowden in the backline is clearly the worst footballer l have seen in my life. never hit a target. his team-mates yelling his in clear for shot on goal & kicks it on the full.  :rollin that goal he kicked after the siren against Melbourne was a mistake that the wind blew through  :rollin
He had the same shot yesterday & missed it when Collingwood players were nailing them from all round that position even their backmen Harry O'brien showed him how easy its done  :rollin

Any of you, who even have the slightest thought St-Kilda are after him or any other club for that  infact please PM me & l will give you a contact number in your area to see a shrink cause McMahon is clearly the worst l ever seen & the only person who wanted him was Wallace who left our list in a rabble. it will take 3 years to recover a list possible before even thinking to start a team.

every Richmond supporter l spoke to yesterday said they will not renew thier membership, & driving out in the car listening to talkback supporters were saying the same on radio. March your a disgrace get out of Richmond & take Cameron with you
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 16, 2009, 08:30:26 AM
He only wanted to wave goodbye to the cheer squad who supported him for 14 years. He got the matchday football he can kick that around with his kids cause what l seen today from every Richmond player & coaches was Pathetic.

he got shafted by the club who cant even come out when a player retires & thank him publicly while Collingwood supporters were even clearly seen cheering him off

For not fighting Joel thats not a good sign but l suppose when a club turns thier back on you like March, Cameron & Rawlings then why should he.
if it was me out there l would have been punching them off King but not every player is a fighter. Richmond dont have many sad to say.
Hope they seen & learnt something yesterday
 
seen Joel leading into open many times & was clear to recieve ball & Richmond took the 2 on 1 option everytime to  turn it over. PATHETIC.
Saying Bowden dont sweat Popelord  :rollin your a effing idiot  :lol are you a trainer or something thats standing next to him checking out his sweat. your deluded effoff back to the forums you come from.

McMahon brought to club by Wallace to replace Bowden in the backline is clearly the worst footballer l have seen in my life. never hit a target. his team-mates yelling his in clear for shot on goal & kicks it on the full.  :rollin that goal he kicked after the siren against Melbourne was a mistake that the wind blew through  :rollin

Any of you, who even have the slightest thought St-Kilda are after him or any other club for that  infact please PM me & l will give you a contact number in your area to see a shrink cause McMahon is clearly the worst l ever seen & the only person who wanted him was Wallace who left our list in a rabble. it will take 3 years to recover a list possible before even thinking to start a team.

every Richmond supporter l spoke to yesterday said they will not renew thier membership, & driving out in the car listening to talkback supporters were saying the same on radio. March your a disgrace get out of Richmond & take Cameron with you

Monk.
I actually agree with you.
I wouldnt think March or Cameron have much idea.
As for Cameron, I still havent got over his press  conference with Chris Newman earlier this year standing in front of the Jack Dyer statute with him telling liars :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Interesting to see membership numbers next year, although this years are "'clouded"" due to Cousins and Sheedys input
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 16, 2009, 08:34:48 AM
He only wanted to wave goodbye to the cheer squad who supported him for 14 years. He got the matchday football he can kick that around with his kids cause what l seen today from every Richmond player & coaches was Pathetic.

he got shafted by the club who cant even come out when a player retires & thank him publicly while Collingwood supporters were even clearly seen cheering him off

For not fighting Joel thats not a good sign but l suppose when a club turns thier back on you like March, Cameron & Rawlings then why should he.
if it was me out there l would have been punching them off King but not every player is a fighter. Richmond dont have many sad to say.
Hope they seen & learnt something yesterday
 
seen Joel leading into open many times & was clear to recieve ball & Richmond took the 2 on 1 option everytime to  turn it over. PATHETIC.
Saying Bowden dont sweat Popelord  :rollin your a effing idiot  :lol are you a trainer or something thats standing next to him checking out his sweat. your deluded effoff back to the forums you come from.

McMahon brought to club by Wallace to replace Bowden in the backline is clearly the worst footballer l have seen in my life. never hit a target. his team-mates yelling his in clear for shot on goal & kicks it on the full.  :rollin that goal he kicked after the siren against Melbourne was a mistake that the wind blew through  :rollin

Any of you, who even have the slightest thought St-Kilda are after him or any other club for that  infact please PM me & l will give you a contact number in your area to see a shrink cause McMahon is clearly the worst l ever seen & the only person who wanted him was Wallace who left our list in a rabble. it will take 3 years to recover a list possible before even thinking to start a team.

every Richmond supporter l spoke to yesterday said they will not renew thier membership, & driving out in the car listening to talkback supporters were saying the same on radio. March your a disgrace get out of Richmond & take Cameron with you

Monk.
I actually agree with you.
I wouldnt think March or Cameron have much idea.
As for Cameron, I still havent got over his press  conference with Chris Newman earlier this year standing in front of the Jack Dyer statute with him telling liars :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead
Interesting to see membership numbers next year, although this years are "'clouded"" due to Cousins and Sheedys input

March is not a very good buisness man  ;D he knows nothing about football  ;D ? did he ever play football  ;D
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 16, 2009, 10:50:17 AM
what a disgusting effort yesterday
how dare those boys get up today and look joel in th eeye
and all you supporters who continually bag joel, you can all stuff off and rot in hell, if there is such a thing

jade organises a gift for that fhead micky o last week, yet thins is what he offers joel

fu jade , man with a girls name
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 16, 2009, 10:53:18 AM
what a disgusting effort yesterday
how dare those boys get up today and look joel in th eeye
and all you supporters who continually bag joel, you can all eff off and rot in hell, if there is such a thing

jade organises a gift for that fhead micky o last week, yet thins is what he offers joel

fu jade , man with a girls name

haha we were saying that yesterday at the footy,  Jade is a girls name same as my daughters friend  ;D he coaching like a girl would. has no idea
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: intelligent_blonde on August 16, 2009, 06:03:43 PM
Did anyone go to the Testimonal last night? What was it like?
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Ox on August 16, 2009, 06:50:51 PM

It is the softest thing that I have seen in Joel Bowden's career, and there has been plenty of those moments in his career.



more in terms of,"fitting".
it sits nicely with
1-the footage of him rushing behinds.
2-footage of him squibbing against colonwood
3-footage of him turning the ball over
4-early footage of him lairising the ball
5-footage of him and his brother laying doubles footy


can't believe i missed it - 2 busy watching lids get gang raped while he gave one of them a handjob

weak as iss
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 17, 2009, 06:35:36 AM
weak like you s  ;D
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Chuck17 on August 17, 2009, 09:09:11 AM
For not fighting Joel thats not a good sign but l suppose when a club turns thier back on you like March, Cameron & Rawlings then why should he.

It wasn't his club out there on Saturday it was 17 of his team mates and one that needed assistance.

Good change of avator TM  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 17, 2009, 08:53:56 PM
For not fighting Joel thats not a good sign but l suppose when a club turns thier back on you like March, Cameron & Rawlings then why should he.

It wasn't his club out there on Saturday it was 17 of his team mates and one that needed assistance.

Good change of avator TM  :thumbsup

Yep Kingy is my new favorite player. Just wished more in the side had a heart like him  ;D shame his season is over  :lol was worth the hit to Didak  :lol it dropped him.
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: peggles on August 18, 2009, 05:25:31 AM
Joel needs to go out on a personal blaze of glory now that we are definentely not going to win. I would respect him more if he did this. Find that little twirp Thomas and knock him out, then remonstrate with a few others and throw a few the way Brown Lynch and Wakelin were throwing haymakers in the 2004 Grand Final. It's not as if he's playing next week. Then he can honestly come off the ground with his head held high.


By the way () )( great assessment. :clapping

Well. he had his chance for that in the 2nd qu Tucker, when 4 players stacked on top of Kingy. Players came running from all over the ground to support him. Joel, who was standing right next to it, reached in underneath Kingy, while he still had 4 players on top of him, and grabbed the ball so he could hand it to the umpire.

That footage will be replayed over and over tomorrow, watch it, and I urge all Joel supporters to watch what he does while a team mate is getting crushed.

It is the softest thing that I have seen in Joel Bowden's career, and there has been plenty of those moments in his career.



DC i noticed it as well, you also see Nathan Brown stand right next to Joel while its happening looking at the umpire waiting for the eventual ball up. Didn't look good at all.

noticed it when i  watched the game for the first time.  and the more replays i watch, the more disgusted i got....
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 18, 2009, 09:32:55 AM
Bowden was not the only player not involved in the fight so dont know why alot of you are just pointing him out.
There was others standing watching. Joel had no need to possibly get himself reported as it would not be a good idea if he wants to get picked up by another club.
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: DallasCrane on August 18, 2009, 11:09:19 AM
noticed it when i  watched the game for the first time.  and the more replays i watch, the more disgusted i got....

What really gets on my 'goat' peggles is what led to that blue in the first place, it was the brilliant tackle by Kingy, he was determined not to let Didak get that kick away, and just out of sheer desperation, he got a fingernail on Didak, turned that into getting a hand on Didak, and just out of sheer determination he was able to drag Didak down in the tackle. It was a critical tackle, Didak was about to launch it to FF. But Joel wouldn't know anything about the desperation required in that situation.

Joel should have ripped all 4 players off him, picked him up and said 'well done son'. Watching it again last night drove me crazy  :banghead
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 18, 2009, 11:18:32 AM
oh well, joel and kb, both tiger greats, both pussies when it comes to fighting

but can tell u now, joel has more courage and balls than what kb ever had

ppl forget that only days after having facial cheekbone surgury, joel was back out there........so much for a gutless
player.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 18, 2009, 07:38:05 PM
oh well, joel and kb, both tiger greats, both pussies when it comes to fighting

but can tell u now, joel has more courage and balls than what kb ever had

ppl forget that only days after having facial cheekbone surgury, joel was back out there........so much for a gutless
player.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Pure bravery. He will be getting a nomination for a  :nopity Victoria Cross and a Purple Heart soon. :nopity
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 19, 2009, 07:07:49 AM
oh well, joel and kb, both tiger greats, both pussies when it comes to fighting

but can tell u now, joel has more courage and balls than what kb ever had

ppl forget that only days after having facial cheekbone surgury, joel was back out there........so much for a gutless
player.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


 :clapping :clapping people forget TT, the ones that bag Joel are the ones who beleive Richmond are not poo
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Moi on August 19, 2009, 07:21:19 AM
oh well, joel and kb, both tiger greats, both pussies when it comes to fighting

but can tell u now, joel has more courage and balls than what kb ever had

ppl forget that only days after having facial cheekbone surgury, joel was back out there........so much for a gutless
player.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


 :clapping :clapping people forget TT, the ones that bag Joel are the ones who beleive Richmond are not poo
Great logic, Einstein lol  ???
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 19, 2009, 07:25:12 AM
 ::)  :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: TigerTimeII on August 19, 2009, 10:03:43 AM
oh well, joel and kb, both tiger greats, both pussies when it comes to fighting

but can tell u now, joel has more courage and balls than what kb ever had

ppl forget that only days after having facial cheekbone surgury, joel was back out there........so much for a gutless
player.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


 :clapping :clapping people forget TT, the ones that bag Joel are the ones who beleive Richmond are not poo
Great logic, Einstein lol  ???
its not logic moi,
its the truth!!
kb on sen has admited many times when the fights/ brawls started , he ran the other way!!!!!!
but no one bags kb!!!!
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Ox on August 19, 2009, 02:29:52 PM
oh well, joel and kb, both tiger greats, both pussies when it comes to fighting

but can tell u now, joel has more courage and balls than what kb ever had

ppl forget that only days after having facial cheekbone surgury, joel was back out there........so much for a gutless
player.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


 :clapping :clapping people forget TT, the ones that bag Joel are the ones who beleive Richmond are not poo
Great logic, Einstein lol  ???
its not logic moi,
its the truth!!
kb on sen has admited many times when the fights/ brawls started , he ran the other way!!!!!!
but no one bags kb!!!!




lmao@ somehow copmparing Bowden to kb :wallywink

That's how deluded u toolz are. :rollin
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: one-eyed on August 20, 2009, 09:30:27 PM
Enough with the personal insults!  >:( :banghead
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: TigerLand on August 21, 2009, 06:10:41 PM
How CDA is still allowed to continually post that sort of crap is beyond me.

Honestly its pretty disappointing one eyed...
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 21, 2009, 06:19:57 PM
How CDA is still allowed to continually post that sort of crap is beyond me.

Honestly its pretty disappointing one eyed...

I actually thought the same
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 21, 2009, 06:26:19 PM
You wont find a better person than Joel Bowden,
Went to his restaurant during the week,
If anyone wants a nice casual lunch - Birdie Nums Nums in Nicholson Street is the place.
And maybe some of the faceless nuffers on here can go down there and if your lucky, Joel will make you a coffee ;) ;)
And Ramps, they have some nice greek dishes tooooo :thumbsup
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Tigermonk on August 21, 2009, 07:09:58 PM
You wont find a better person than Joel Bowden,
Went to his restaurant during the week,
If anyone wants a nice casual lunch - Birdie Nums Nums in Nicholson Street is the place.
And maybe some of the faceless nuffers on here can go down there and if your lucky, Joel will make you a coffee ;) ;)
And Ramps, they have some nice greek dishes tooooo :thumbsup


 :thumbsup
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: DallasCrane on August 21, 2009, 08:27:05 PM
And maybe some of the faceless nuffers on here can go down there and if your lucky, Joel will make you a coffee ;) ;)

No thanks, it would be all froth.
Title: Re: Bowden retires [merged]
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 21, 2009, 09:12:19 PM
And maybe some of the faceless nuffers on here can go down there and if your lucky, Joel will make you a coffee ;) ;)

No thanks, it would be all froth.

Can guarantee the coffee is good, food is great :thumbsup :thumbsup
Title: Joel Bowden's love of the game (NT News)
Post by: one-eyed on November 22, 2009, 04:18:27 PM
Joel's love of the game
Grey Morris
November 21st, 2009


JOEL Bowden's 265 games with AFL club Richmond were one of his biggest life achievements.

That was Bowden's assessment of his 14-season AFL career that ended this year with a farewell appearance against Collingwood at the MCG.

In Darwin to speak at last night's NT Institute of Sport athlete awards, Bowden said his time at Richmond had been full of highlights.

There was no finger pointing or grudges held over his sudden exit from the senior side when Jade Rawlings took over as caretaker coach midway through the 2009 season.

"I'll remain eternally grateful for the time I spent at the club and the two best and fairest awards (Jack Dyer Medal) I won," he said.

"Combine that with two All-Australian jumpers and my role as president of the AFL Players Association (since 2007) and the 17-year-old who joined Richmond from Alice Springs in 1995 is pretty happy.

"If you had told me I would achieve all that I'd have taken it 11 times out of 10."

The West Alice Springs product was involved in his share of controversy, including the famous "rushed behinds" saga in 2008 when he ran down the clock by rushing two behinds from kickouts with Richmond six points in front of Essendon.

Bowden created endless debate - and a rule change - as the result of his actions.

Veteran Herald Sun journalist Mike Sheahan likened it to the infamous Trevor Chappell underarm delivery in a one-day cricket match against New Zealand in 1981.

Bowden may be gone from Richmond as a player, but he still bleeds black and gold blood.

Asked if he could give long suffering Tiger fans some heart after years in the wilderness since the club's last grand final in 1982 and flag in 1980, he called for supporters to maintain the faith.

"They must show a bit of hope and faith in new CEO Brendon Gale," he said.

"Richmond is in a rebuilding phase where they are developing the skills and bodies of their young players."

Coaching is not on Bowden's radar, despite suggestions he would make an ideal Thunder coach.

"I've retired as a player and probably need to sit down and assess all my options," Bowden said.

"But you never say never in this game."

http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2009/11/21/102961_ntsport.html