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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: one-eyed on August 07, 2009, 04:15:58 AM
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The bookies (Luxbet) have us favourite!
Richmond $1.77
Sydney $2.05
Points start +3.5
Journos have gone with the Swans:
Age: 7 - 10
H/S: 6 - 8
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To borrow a Daniel161ism -the bookies must be on DRUGS....How can we be favourites ?
The only positive spin I can put on our chances are.
1) We cant possibly play as bad as we did last week.
2) Sydney might be flat after their fantastic effort against the Saints.
Sydney have won the last 6 against the Tigers.
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Roos says Tigers are tougher under Rawlings
afl.com.au
By Aidan Ormond 3:10 PM Fri 07 August, 2009
SYDNEY Swans coach Paul Roos says his side faces a tough task this week as Richmond has become a more effective defensive unit under interim coach Jade Rawlings.
Roos says the coaching change mid-season at Tigerland is starting to bear fruit.
Rawlings took over on an interim basis from Terry Wallace after Richmond's round 11 loss to the Bulldogs. Since then, the side has enjoyed a revival of sorts with three wins and a draw.
Winning the tackle count in the last two games helped the Tigers secure consecutive victories - the first time they'd gone back-to-back this season.
Roos believes the 12th-placed Tigers are on the right track.
“They seem to be, if you look at the statistics, a little bit more defensive minded," Roos said from the SCG on Friday. "[They have] more contested possessions and their tackling's gone up a bit.
“Their defensive mind-set has increased. I'm sure Jade would say it's only a small window of time but when you're watching them play, they've got some really disciplined players now with a few run-with roles and one-on-one contests and they're trying to win some contested footy.
“They were a reasonable contested team under Terry and that's continued to improve under Jade.”
Roos brushed off suggestions the Swans would struggle on the wider open spaces of the MCG against a mobile midfield that features in-form 250-gamer Ben Cousins, Brett Deledio and Richard Tambling.
And he said the game's significance for the Swans - Michael O'Loughlin's milestone 300th game for the Bloods - is enough motivation to perform at a similar intensity to last week's one-point loss to St Kilda.
Full story at:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/82269/default.aspx
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Sounds like a shocking game.
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This really looks like a game of boys vs men...... :help
Reminding me alot of the St Kilda game in terms of the pressure.
The Swans have come to play thats for sure.
Reality Check Time.
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We were 27 pts down at half time in round 6....
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I think everyone has had enough for the year.
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:sleep :sleep :sleep :sleep
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Is it Adam Goodes Birthday today ?
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God I hate Dennis Cometti....he is twisting the knife in any chance he gets.
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at least we're safe now from another ninth finish. We are playing terrible footy. Its looks like all the players are wearing the new nike leadfoot 5000's. :banghead
If loitering was a crime on the footy field, the entire team would be arrested. Polo, tambling and Cuz are the only ones for mine that have actually made some sort of effort today!
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Nothing but a good old fashioned ass whipping today.
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Just go home, COMPLETE RUBBISH
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As much as I usually think Tim Watson is a moron, he was right today with his comment about our midfield setup. It was unbalanced, we needed more inside contested ball winners against Sydney. They are a team who's game plan is designed around winning the stoppages, had no one to contest the inside ball. Players like Tuck & Cogs are needed for a game against Sydney.
Tuck may have been dropped for not playing by team rules, well from what I can see, there weren't many playing today who stuck to the team rules. I guess that means the whole side needs to be dropped for next week.
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Just go home, COMPLETE RUBBISH
Normally find your posts irritating JJ but I have to agree with this one. A very depressing way to spend an afternoon. Think I'll get back to being positive tomorrow. Can't believe we actually thought we'd be playing finals this season.
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Most of them looked like they had been on the pipe before they ran out.
Can we get a decent Ruck coach - I know Vickers is just learning, but the last 3-4 weeks his timing is just totally out of whack and hasn't improved at all.
Give Browne a run may as well, nothing to lose.
Jack needs to go back to Coburg.
What a miserable game ....... Pies next week could be ugly :banghead
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The future of Tigerland :lol smashed by 2 old players what a disgrace pathetic effort.
God help us next week :help :help :help :help :help 100 point floging coming
Yep Richmond sure arn't more successful than Collingwood
This time last year we had this discussion & nothing has changed at Richmond & Collingwood are playing finals again :banghead :banghead
For god sake someone help that club before l die :lol ;D :banghead
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an absolute disgrace today :banghead
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As much as I usually think Tim Watson is a moron, he was right today with his comment about our midfield setup. It was unbalanced, we needed more inside contested ball winners against Sydney. They are a team who's game plan is designed around winning the stoppages, had no one to contest the inside ball. Players like Tuck & Cogs are needed for a game against Sydney.
Tuck may have been dropped for not playing by team rules, well from what I can see, there weren't many playing today who stuck to the team rules. I guess that means the whole side needs to be dropped for next week.
Next week you will want Bowden to help hahaha
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an absolute disgrace today :banghead
Jake King is worth watching his a gem that bloke
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The sad thing is the board was probably wanting to give Rawlings the job. Rawlings cant do this job. The Richmond job needs a dictator to get the crap out of the playing list, get rid of the fitness staff and whoever else cant help improve the club. Its a job for someone like Damien Hardwick.
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The sad thing is the board was probably wanting to give Rawlings the job. Rawlings cant do this job. The Richmond job needs a dictator to get the crap out of the playing list, get rid of the fitness staff and whoever else cant help improve the club. Its a job for someone like Damien Hardwick.
as i said earlier Ramps to be honest i am glad we lost today just so the RFC got a good reality check in that Jade's is not our man.
anyone with half a brain knows he aint our man and those MEANINGLESS wins were exactly that, MEANINGLESS!!!
i know once we played a descent team we would get found out. I judge our performance on todays opponents not those other hacks were just beat
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wins that were just over the line to say the least, all them teams had no interchange in the last quarters. we are doomed
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Culture has to change firstly.
We just can't beat teams like the Swans Adelaide and St Kilda.
3 wins in total against these 3 clubs since 2003 with 1 the basketball game in 06(Adelaide) the other a rd 4 Easter Monday 2003 win half a season before the Saints emerged as a lrgitimate threat and a 1 point win against Sydney in 2005 almost giving away a 34 point half time lead. Very damning statistics.
All 3 play a hard tackling tight checking pressure game and we get exposed horrifically when we play them as our personnel just do not have the skill and mental capacity to overcome this. Supplement this by Jade getting outcoached and we are nowhere.
Today was an advertisement to the board and this so called process to hurry it up and offer terms and conditions of contract to Damien Hardwick who will immediately start working on these aforementioned deficiencies.
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Richmond need to recruit some hard looking tuff men & stop recruiting poster boys who need thier hair done before they take the field
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Richmond need to recruit some hard looking tuff men & stop recruiting poster boys who need thier hair done before they take the field
Yep, there were too many weakies out there today
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the problem with the RFC is with our list and these little skinny pricks that roll around in the yellow and black.
Been saying it for years Edwards and Mcmlovin are not our future. get rid of them. King at least has guts and tries, something the rest of them might want to copy from time to time.
Anyone see Edwards get knocked down in the centre square with a nice bump from a sydney player. Well thats something i have NEVER seen our players do.
we are not only weak in the head but we are physically weak. Useless in fact.
Saints laid nearly 60 tackles yesterday in the first half with 7 of the best out. How many did we lay today??
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God I hate Dennis Cometti....he is twisting the knife in any chance he gets.
Yes he does, he is an hole of the highest grade.
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We got smashed in the ruck. Jolly and Pyke :P were feeding their mids all day. They starved us of the ball. Then even when we got hold of the footy we turned it over and the Swans punished us on every mistake. Roos made sure the Swannies targetted our running players so we were ineffective with our run and our delivery to our forwards was poor. Blingers getting caught 4 times was an example of that pressure although there seemed to be one holding the ball rule for some and not for others out there ::). The umps were a pathetic joke as much as we were.
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Richmond need to recruit some hard looking tuff men & stop recruiting poster boys who need thier hair done before they take the field
Yep, there were too many weakies out there today
Yep we got outmuscled and outmarked all day. You can blame some on that on youth but we also had too many lightweight 5' 11" types in the one side.
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In the wake of all the superlatives in the press about how the Swans all play for their mates, and Richmond are selfish (which I'm not disputing for a minute),isn't it interesting how nobody in the media ever takes Sydney to task for the type of sludge they continually serve up?
Nothing has changed since Demetriou accused them of playing ugly footy years ago (about the smartest words to ever come out of his fat gob.) Did you notice how every time we tried to mount an attack, there were 18 Swans in our forward fifty arc, with tumbleweeds blowing through the vast desert between the centre square and their goals? Even when we kicked out to the boundary, their whole team would just mass on the tight confines of the wing.
I just reckon if we played on the salt flats of Utah, they'd still somehow manage to corral us into a broom closet.I reckon it's an ugly blight on the game. It's also where modern footy is at unfortunately.Which is why there's so much backwards-sideways crap. The league doesn't have the balls to implement any rules to stop it. And unlike Collingwood, who owns Sydney as much as Sydney owns us, we can't seem to find a coach (or even an interim coach :lol) who has any answer for it.
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In the wake of all the superlatives in the press about how the Swans all play for their mates, and Richmond are selfish (which I'm not disputing for a minute),isn't it interesting how nobody in the media ever takes Sydney to task for the type of sludge they continually serve up?
Nothing has changed since Demetriou accused them of playing ugly footy years ago (about the smartest words to ever come out of his fat gob.) Did you notice how every time we tried to mount an attack, there were 18 Swans in our forward fifty arc, with tumbleweeds blowing through the vast desert between the centre square and their goals? Even when we kicked out to the boundary, their whole team would just mass on the tight confines of the wing.
I just reckon if we played on the salt flats of Utah, they'd still somehow manage to corral us into a broom closet.I reckon it's an ugly blight on the game. It's also where modern footy is at unfortunately.Which is why there's so much backwards-sideways crap. The league doesn't have the balls to implement any rules to stop it. And unlike Collingwood, who owns Sydney as much as Sydney owns us, we can't seem to find a coach (or even an interim coach :lol) who has any answer for it.
nothing has changed ???? they have won a premiership & played many finals who cares how they play. The played good football yesterday.
Demetriou comments :rollin his the most arogant person in the AFL
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nothing has changed ???? they have won a premiership & played many finals who cares how they play. The played good football yesterday.
Demetriou comments :rollin his the most arogant person in the AFL
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I care how they play. I'm sick to death of fronting up to the Swans year after year, and watching them force us into trying futilely to negotiate our way through their constipation. This whole "the end justifies the means" philosophy is what's gotten us where we are today, watching teams kicking every which way but forward, trying to circumvent the mega-flood.
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Thats the coaches fault for not being tactical enough to expose there way of playing like many over clubs have acheived.
We have dumb coaches who cannot get through to the players but the players have shown they can have big quarters against big sides.
Geelong we were ripped off, the Umpires didnot want us to win, maybe they were betting on Geelong in the quady but it all belongs to the coach
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Thats the coaches fault for not being tactical enough to expose there way of playing like many over clubs have acheived.
We have dumb coaches
Yes, I agree. We haven't had a coach who's been able to counter the Swans style. Other teams like Collingwood have them figured out and it frustrates me no end.Not Frawley, or Wallace, nor Rawlings now so it seems. But my point is, we shouldn't have to be sucked into beating Sydney on their own terms. I'm a footy purist, and I want to see an open, free-flowing, high-scoring game full of one-on one contests, like the game I grew up with. But selfish, win at all costs coaches like Roos and Eade have tampered with the game I once loved with basketball style zone defences,flooding, and rugby tactics. Everyone I've spoken to, every forum I've read,all supporters of all clubs hate all the backwards sideways chip,chip, chip round the peripheries of the oppositions defensive structure.It's a blight on the game, and I lay the blame squarely at the feet of the Swans. It originated at that postage-stamp SCG, first under Eade and now Roos, and has now spread through the competition like a cancer.The reason St.Kilda are so successful now, is that they play a variation on it. It's all strangle, stymie, negate and I hate it. The AFL could and should counter it by cutting back the number of interchanges, and devising a kind of off-side rule that keeps players in their nominal positions. But they don't have the balls or the sense to do it, and just keep coming up with hollow claims like;"the game will evolve through it". But I see no evidence to suggest that the game will evolve through it. And games like yesterdays ABOMINATION are proof that flooding is here to stay.
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its not hard to exploit the Swans style of play.
Our problems are based on BASIC SKILLS & NO GUT RUNNING
The is no commitment to each other, too many playing to save thier own careers when if they play as a team could call it a team effort at the end of the day & everyone from coach to fan is happy. thats not happening.
Disposals is absolutely pathetic & common sence mistakes, handballing to hot team-mates riles me
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nothing has changed ???? they have won a premiership & played many finals who cares how they play. The played good football yesterday.
Demetriou comments :rollin his the most arogant person in the AFL
I care how they play. I'm sick to death of fronting up to the Swans year after year, and watching them force us into trying futilely to negotiate our way through their constipation. This whole "the end justifies the means" philosophy is what's gotten us where we are today, watching teams kicking every which way but forward, trying to circumvent the mega-flood.
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It's quite similar to soccer now. Players pass between themselves trying to build up the perfect delivery into attack. It works for the biggest sport in the world, so not sure why it can't work in AFL.
Our team balance was out against Sydney. We needed more contested ball winners, all our good ones were playing for Coburg.
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its not hard to exploit the Swans style of play. :lol ;D