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Football => Richmond Rant => Topic started by: TigerLand on August 15, 2009, 06:48:22 PM

Title: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: TigerLand on August 15, 2009, 06:48:22 PM
Well..

Today was a disaster. Genuine disaster.

Lets drain blood from a stone:


Jake King - Has warranted his place for 2010 its as simple as that. We all saw his game, and only gave 1 stupid free kick away. Put a player like that in Adelaide, Carlton or Brisbane and he woudl increase that teams chances by 10%. Its unfortunate our side is so down on confidence and flair that his effects are almost pointless.

Tom Hislop - For mine increased a bit of his workrate and probably in our top 5 today where his name would not normally be. Maybe it was that so many had an off day? But I thought he continued to ran, tackled and bumped. All the hard things to do and twice as hard when your 100 points points down.

Jake Riewoldt - Would now be having some great conversations with Richo over how it feels to be a key forward when all you see up the field is a circus.. Think in the last 25 minutes of the 1st qtr we had 0 posessions in our offensive 3rd. Did the most of it when it came his way and in the 2nd half when he was put down back he kept trying and beat Cloke on a few occasions.

Shane Edwards - Was on Leon Davis for the most of the game who had little impact. Helps when he's not really needed but Edwards was ok.

Vickory and Graham - Were beatin in the ruck, need toget some pace in there legs but had a dip and gave some nice to advantage taps.

And thats about it I'm sad to say. Deledio certainly wasn't embarrassed, when your side gets smashed its always easy to look at your best player and think well you didn't have a stand out game its your fault. Deledio probably could have gone up a cog but certainly wouldn't have had much effect on the game.
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 15, 2009, 06:57:27 PM
Well..

Today was a disaster. Genuine disaster.

Lets drain blood from a stone:


Jake King - Has warranted his place for 2010 its as simple as that. We all saw his game, and only gave 1 stupid free kick away. Put a player like that in Adelaide, Carlton or Brisbane and he woudl increase that teams chances by 10%. Its unfortunate our side is so down on confidence and flair that his effects are almost pointless.

Tom Hislop - For mine increased a bit of his workrate and probably in our top 5 today where his name would not normally be. Maybe it was that so many had an off day? But I thought he continued to ran, tackled and bumped. All the hard things to do and twice as hard when your 100 points points down.

Jake Riewoldt - Would now be having some great conversations with Richo over how it feels to be a key forward when all you see up the field is a circus.. Think in the last 25 minutes of the 1st qtr we had 0 posessions in our offensive 3rd. Did the most of it when it came his way and in the 2nd half when he was put down back he kept trying and beat Cloke on a few occasions.

Shane Edwards - Was on Leon Davis for the most of the game who had little impact. Helps when he's not really needed but Edwards was ok.

Vickory and Graham - Were beatin in the ruck, need toget some pace in there legs but had a dip and gave some nice to advantage taps.

And thats about it I'm sad to say. Deledio certainly wasn't embarrassed, when your side gets smashed its always easy to look at your best player and think well you didn't have a stand out game its your fault. Deledio probably could have gone up a cog but certainly wouldn't have had much effect on the game.

King, Edwards and Hislop are rubbish.

Jake king particulary is actually an embarrasment to watch. knows how to land a punch but unless you can produce the goods you look like a fool.

by the way Davis kicked 4 goals(Edwards opponent). Didak was King's and he had 30 touches and kicked 2

we have been carrying rubbish for years and these 2 fit nicely in that category

Vickery and Graham will get better.

god help us if we lose Lids. 2 weeks out and still no signature
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: TigerLand on August 15, 2009, 07:25:10 PM
Davis was nowhere in the first qtr when the game was lost. Had little if any influence on the result.

Didak starred, and beat King but atleast King keep persisting. Too many players dropped there heads and threw the towel in. He at least keep going till the siren went.
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: peggles on August 15, 2009, 08:17:39 PM
impressed today by king, hislop and edwards. 

king - was beaten today but he's never lacked endeavour.  kicking has improved.

hislop - how hard does this bloke go at the ball and at his man.  the amount of times he's done the dirty work in terms of shepparding, bumping etc was great.  mangaged to kick a couple as well.  more of the better players today.

edwards.  sure, davis kicked 4 goals, but 2 were him picking off handballs in the forwardline and couple of good roving.  certainly wouldn't say he dominated edwards.  titch brings plenty of dash.  his burst out of a ball up and dishing off to lids for the goal was great stuff.
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Infamy on August 15, 2009, 08:22:39 PM
Edwards shut Davis out in the first half and was off the ground for almost all the last quarter injured.
Given how much Collingwood dominated and Davis' form this year, Edwards was rightfully named in our best
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: wayne on August 15, 2009, 09:47:45 PM
We won the last quarter.
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: mightytiges on August 15, 2009, 09:58:15 PM
We actually won more hitouts for once  :o
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: bojangles17 on August 15, 2009, 10:09:22 PM
agreed a couple of the grunt players worked hard however what shone out to me was the total lack of system and cohesion we play with...No-one prepared to run hard into space...ALWAYS less numbers around the pill....about the ONLY positive I can come up with is that we are that ordinary that there is ONLY upside from here :shh
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Smokey on August 15, 2009, 10:13:22 PM
...No-one prepared to run hard into space...

If I had to pick our single biggest failing as a team this would be it.  As a team we just refuse to do anything that resembles hard work.  Fitness, conditioning, coaching, ability, attitude, whatever.   >:(
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Infamy on August 15, 2009, 10:15:08 PM
agreed a couple of the grunt players worked hard however what shone out to me was the total lack of system and cohesion we play with...No-one prepared to run hard into space...ALWAYS less numbers around the pill....about the ONLY positive I can come up with is that we are that ordinary that there is ONLY upside from here :shh
The only positive I can think of that at least it wasn't over 100 points
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Hellenic Tiger on August 16, 2009, 02:01:10 AM
agreed a couple of the grunt players worked hard however what shone out to me was the total lack of system and cohesion we play with...No-one prepared to run hard into space...ALWAYS less numbers around the pill....about the ONLY positive I can come up with is that we are that ordinary that there is ONLY upside from here :shh

We have been ordinary for 27 years. Still witing for the wheel to gravitate to that up position. We are a less than ordinary footy club at best. We have no aura.
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Tigermonk on August 16, 2009, 07:52:33 AM
apart from the fights & brawl we are PATHETIC in all assets of a football club.  :chuck :chuck
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 16, 2009, 08:16:46 AM
...No-one prepared to run hard into space...

If I had to pick our single biggest failing as a team this would be it.  As a team we just refuse to do anything that resembles hard work.  Fitness, conditioning, coaching, ability, attitude, whatever.   >:(

Give you a little tip.
The game plan is based on getting numbers to the ball an trying to play congested footy and keeping possesion( I DONT AGREE WITH THIS )
The game plan is completely stuffed, we have all players running towards the ball carrier instead of away from him :banghead
Yesterday it was at its worse
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Tigermonk on August 16, 2009, 08:41:39 AM
...No-one prepared to run hard into space...

If I had to pick our single biggest failing as a team this would be it.  As a team we just refuse to do anything that resembles hard work.  Fitness, conditioning, coaching, ability, attitude, whatever.   >:(

Give you a little tip.
The game plan is based on getting numbers to the ball an trying to play congested footy and keeping possesion( I DONT AGREE WITH THIS )
The game plan is completely stuffed, we have all players running towards the ball carrier instead of away from him :banghead
Yesterday it was at its worse

BINGO my boy said the same thing  :thumbsup  he said Richmonds thinking is wacko. his said his team have better game plan  :lol
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 16, 2009, 08:59:45 AM
Just watch the bulldogs, they peel back and release players when the gain possesion.
Usually into unguarded space..
The coaches we have ,have little idea :banghead :banghead
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Francois Jackson on August 16, 2009, 09:07:11 AM
Just watch the bulldogs, they peel back and release players when the gain possesion.
Usually into unguarded space..
The coaches we have ,have little idea :banghead :banghead

thats why i dont even want Rawlings to stay at all. All assistant coaches gone. Campo can stay but even that im not sold on anymore.

Jade has proved, and not just yesterday, he has little idea and IMO he is right up with that fool McCrae that need to be shown the door as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 16, 2009, 09:13:56 AM
Just watch the bulldogs, they peel back and release players when the gain possesion.
Usually into unguarded space..
The coaches we have ,have little idea :banghead :banghead

thats why i dont even want Rawlings to stay at all. All assistant coaches gone. Campo can stay but even that im not sold on anymore.

Jade has proved, and not just yesterday, he has little idea and IMO he is right up with that fool McCrae that need to be shown the door as soon as possible.

Interesting to watch McCrae and Cousins in heated discussions continually when they walk the boundary line when Cuz comes off. No love lost there
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Tigermonk on August 16, 2009, 09:39:32 AM
Tell you what did make me really mad yesterday was watching interchanges
players running from contests on the opposite side of the ground leaving us short WTF  :banghead
Newman done it several times that just absurded being done by a captain  let alone anyone  :banghead
wtf goes through thier heads down there.
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 16, 2009, 09:41:43 AM
Tell you what did make me really mad yesterday was watching interchanges
players running from contests on the opposite side of the ground leaving us short WTF  :banghead
Newman done it several times that just absurded being done by a captain  let alone anyone  :banghead
wtf goes through thier heads down there.

As I have posted the last 2 previous weeks, this happens often.
They have no idea down there :banghead
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Tigermonk on August 16, 2009, 09:49:46 AM
yep deplorable. Rawlings cant coach  :banghead


Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 16, 2009, 09:55:17 AM
yep deplorable. Rawlings cant coach  :banghead




The job is way to big for him
I might add they the interchanges arent his concern, in regards to the process.
This is a staff issue and process issue that needs fixing ASAP>
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Tigermonk on August 16, 2009, 09:56:41 AM
l'm going to go have a big poo & get Richmond out of my system
The go watch a new player in the making who wants McMuffins spot  :rollin
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Infamy on August 16, 2009, 11:47:47 AM
Just watch the bulldogs, they peel back and release players when the gain possesion.
Usually into unguarded space..
The coaches we have ,have little idea :banghead :banghead

thats why i dont even want Rawlings to stay at all. All assistant coaches gone. Campo can stay but even that im not sold on anymore.

Jade has proved, and not just yesterday, he has little idea and IMO he is right up with that fool McCrae that need to be shown the door as soon as possible.
Campo can stay? Our midfield has gone t@s up since he took over. Rumours of clashes with players as well. He should never have been brought back to the club.
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Chuck17 on August 17, 2009, 09:55:36 AM
I never knew we had so many tactical genius's on here, I am surprised you guys are writing on forums, surely some club should have tapped into your amazing resources by now.

And Oh Yeh our game plan is so crap even a brain dead fart can see it ... blah......blah...blah....
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Ramps on August 17, 2009, 10:31:45 AM
I never knew we had so many tactical genius's on here, I am surprised you guys are writing on forums, surely some club should have tapped into your amazing resources by now.

And Oh Yeh our game plan is so crap even a brain dead fart can see it ... blah......blah...blah....

The results are there for all to see - and they are not that good.
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Chuck17 on August 17, 2009, 10:35:02 AM
I never knew we had so many tactical genius's on here, I am surprised you guys are writing on forums, surely some club should have tapped into your amazing resources by now.

And Oh Yeh our game plan is so crap even a brain dead fart can see it ... blah......blah...blah....

The results are there for all to see - and they are not that good.

No and they havent been for decades, I just get bored reading the whingeing and whineing with nothing constructive really to say except the coaches game plan is crap and I could do better......
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 17, 2009, 11:17:19 AM
I never knew we had so many tactical genius's on here, I am surprised you guys are writing on forums, surely some club should have tapped into your amazing resources by now.

And Oh Yeh our game plan is so crap even a brain dead fart can see it ... blah......blah...blah....

The results are there for all to see - and they are not that good.

No and they havent been for decades, I just get bored reading the whingeing and whineing with nothing constructive really to say except the coaches game plan is crap and I could do better......

Probably could actually ;) ;)
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: tiga on August 17, 2009, 11:21:29 AM
...No-one prepared to run hard into space...

If I had to pick our single biggest failing as a team this would be it.  As a team we just refuse to do anything that resembles hard work.  Fitness, conditioning, coaching, ability, attitude, whatever.   >:(

Give you a little tip.
The game plan is based on getting numbers to the ball an trying to play congested footy and keeping possesion( I DONT AGREE WITH THIS )
The game plan is completely stuffed, we have all players running towards the ball carrier instead of away from him :banghead
Yesterday it was at its worse
Jack I totally agree with you on this!  :o The Swans are experts at this type of game born out of necessity on the small SCG. Do this on the vast spaces of the MCG by a team down on run and confidence and we see the result on the weekend. I saw this on far to many occasions during the game.

Also Collingwood did their homework and knew their bigger bodies could beat us with one on one contested football. This was evident in the first half where we couldn't get the ball past half way. Collingwood would man up one on one on forcing us to kick to contests, they brought it to ground for the likes of Didak, Lockyer, Pendlebury etc and the rest is history.
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Chuck17 on August 17, 2009, 11:24:10 AM
Bottom line is that our list is that far behind other established lists that any gameplan implemented with kids playing is just going to get smashed against the better sides.
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Jackstar is back on August 17, 2009, 11:51:25 AM
Bottom line is that our list is that far behind other established lists that any gameplan implemented with kids playing is just going to get smashed against the better sides.

I actually disagree with you.
I aint going to write my thoughts on game plans etc Takes way too long.
But will offer you this.
It needs to be kept very simple. eg Like the win against West Coast, keeping structure when rebounding.   Simple plan would be that you always have Reiwoldt and Morton inside F 50 ( might add this wasnt the case on saturday with both chasing kicks in D 50 when we had posession :banghead :banghead :banghead).
Another example would be that both ruckman hit away from Goal at stoppages IN D50. seen Angus tap the ball straight to opposition on saturday for easy goals.  :banghead :banghead
Mate I could go on and on and and on, but whats the point
Title: Re: Vs Collingwood Praise
Post by: Tigermonk on August 17, 2009, 08:59:25 PM
was shocked to see players in free space not being used & the ball was kicked across ground by players.
cant win games going sideways  :rollin